Razer DeathAdder V3 Pro 4000hz Wireless and Wired 8000hz VS DA V2 Comparison Review 

I miss the unique review style you have. Please do more mouse reviews

I've had the MZ1wireless for a few months now and it's by far the best mouse I've bought. My rank in Overwatch is pushing into Plat and now solid diamond. Thank you for what you do! You have always been my go to when buying a mouse!

As always thanks for the detailed review!

I prefer the dav3 shape to all others. I used the superlight before and after switching to the more comfortable (to me) shape of the razer I can't go back. Glad to see more reviews from ya.

I cannot wait for the viper v2 review, i might drop a comment how this mouse, despite my struggle with my previous first gaming mouse(the fk1+ coming from a 19/9cm hand player) really made me tame the ambi shape further and managed to improved since then, once the vid drops and good you see you back, Zy, we missed you :)

Man how much we have missed you!

My main buying point is optical switches. It's nice knowing that the switch is going to last longer than every other part of the mouse, never have to worry about double clicking. Right now still using the Viper Mini, hoping they offer a midrange wireless model soon. I highly recommend not running Razer Synapse on your computer.

I missed these reviews. Hopefully we get one for the ULX. Either way, wonderful video as always.

YES FINALLY I MISSED YOU SO MUCH!

Awesome video and explanation 🔥Still loving the MZ1 wireless by the way! Would be great if an updated version was to be released down the line

much needed video honestly

No one does it like Zy, welcome back

Great review as always. Waiting for the Lamzu atlantis and Pulsar X2 review

Been using DeathAdders since forever. Nice to see them improving and getting on top of the game once again. When my current one finally dies seems like a nice update.

Been my main for a month now and I'm loving it! Been looking for mice that would replace that my existential love for the mx518 and this just about done it.

Keep em comin Zy. Missed ya bud hope all is well.

The goat is back in town.

still the king of mice reviews!

waiting so long for this review

Welcome back! After a generally meh experience with the DV2 Pro (mostly because the price definitely doesn't match the build quality and the synapse experience) I am on the lookout for another wireless ergo mouse without holes that isn't Razer or Glorious (or g502 shape). Hopefully some show up on your channel and site in the future.

Great content as always! Could you make something related about sound? I'm curious to see what you use and what you think is important for competitive gaming. Your take is quite unique on everything and I like that a lot.

Nice review man, now this is true RJN content!

HES BACK

I was using Glorious Model O for around 3 years, and lately have been getting some wrist pain due to how it is in the middle of being not large enough for me to comfortably grip it in palm, and not small enough for claw/ftip. I was given a Intellimouse Explorer 3.0 at work and noticed that I had much less strain on my wrist with that mouse. After release of DAv3 I've initially liked the shape due to similarity and latest tech. Since grabbing it, I can use it for longer and also have improved my aim since I'm now more comfortable using that mouse and don't think about how I have to grip the mouse all the time. Right now I have something in between of claw and palm - my fingers curl up a bit, but rest of my hand is rested on the back of the mouse. With balanced/speed pad (AC+) I feel like this is the best setup for me rn

I just got the DAv3 wired and I gotta say I fell in love with it the moment I put it in my hand and started using it. The mouse shape is PERFECT. I love it to death. You can move this mouse around so easily compared to my last mouse the SS Rival 310. It feels really good going back to the Deathadder. I haven't owned one in a few years. This mouse is built so well. Ohh I am using 1600 dpi...... There is a big latency difference from 800 and you just divide your sens in half.

I really do wish they would bring a left handed deathadder back with the shape of the new V3 pro. Would love to try it out

I've tried and owned many many mice, wierdly enough I aim my best with the dav3 even though I fingertip grip it something about the size and curve lets me control this mouse really good, I was maining the x2 mini before that and even though they weigh the same the weight distribution on the dav3 makes it feel much ligther.

great video! razer deathadder v3 is great! btw, r you gonna post a review on the finalmouse ultralight X mouse any time soon?

Can confirm that Zy's size/grip recommendations are accurate. I'm 21.5x11cm and this mouse fits perfectly. I do still prefer ambidextrous over ergo for aiming though. My top shapes are the Vaxee XE wireless, ROG Harpe Ace, Darmoshark M3 for L/XL size. Viper V2 pro as well with the right grips. I have yet to test Zy's rail at my hand size but I think I might have to in the very near future.

After a long time with the dav3 I can say that I would love for three things to be different: - More forward sensor position (not much just 0,5-0,7cm) - I changed my grip into more of a claw grip, and I keep noticing, that it is hard for me to grip the mouse with my pinky finger. I wish it flared in a bit more likt the older deathadders. - the older lower front of the buttons allowed me for a more secure / snug grip. Yes that encourages people to palm grip, but I found it a lot more comfortable, maybe a middleground would be the way to go.

been a while, hope your doin great and, i'd rlly love if u stress more on what best shape (theories) u have cuz i have been struggling and i cant find my shape

Return of the king.

I was excited about the DA V3 non-pro as well, not because of the 8k polling but because of the shape. If there was a DA V3 Mini pro/non-pro, that's probably what I would try next since my main now is a Keris Aimpoint wireless which falls into the small ergo mouse category from my previous Lamzu OG, and I totally agree with RJN when he says going smaller is better. The Pulesfire Haste 2 wired also has 8k polling. I hope RJN reviews that next.

Recently, i picked up a corsair sabre rgb pro because I wanted to try out a higher polling mouse. Only cost like 35 dollars on amazon. Even though im only on 165hz, I could tell it was definitely smoother than my current 1k polling cooler master MM712. But even then, I still prefer my MM712. The shape and the coating means more to me than even having a more accurate/faster sensor. I guess consistency and comfort is more important to the pros than the latest and greatest tech.

I like the v3 but the front is too high for me.. precission Seems to be less with that. But higher button height gives more stability in movement( cleaner and more straighter lines) So something in the middle seems to be perfect for me

The legendary zy returns!?

recently started using deathadder v3 pro with standard 1000Hz, with 6400DPI - 0.75 in game sens Overwatch 2 and 3/11 windows mouse speed (it equals to 0.25x which is 1600 and only affects cursor movement and not raw input for games that use raw input, so i can use the equivalent of 1600DPI for desktop use and Overwatch 2 in game cursor), it feels super smooth and responsive, amazing ergo mouse

Been using the DA for the majority of my gaming life, the same shape is just awesome for me, the V2 was ~30EUR in a gaming shop, so I snagged 2 and I'm all set.

What do you think about the fingertip mice like the Zaunkoenig M2K and the ones from Gwolves? I don't I ever saw you review or even talk about those? I am tempted to try them out but still unsure.

good to see razer adapt to the market needs, without needing holes or led gimmicks

I would like to see a video about the "lower vs. higher dpi" you touched on during the review sometime. Speaking of, it's very good as always.

I really like the starlight 12 but it is just a bit too small for my hand size. Does anyone have any suggestions on like grip tape or anywhere I can find something similar to the infinity skins to add just a bit to the shape? Thank you! Love the review Zy and very glad you are back

the king....has returned!!!

I wish I liked this thing, but I couldn’t get a good grip on it. I bought this alongside a viper v2 with the plan to pick one and return the other. Because I was a palm gripper I thought I’d pick this no problem. Plus, I had hand pains with the viper at first. But after a while I realized I couldn’t get a decent grip on it. It always felt like it was gonna slip out 9f my hand. And the more I went back to the viper, the more I liked that, and my grip style changed to suit it. The hand pains went away too. This, plus me getting the viper for around $50 off led to me picking that instead. And now I‘ve basically been forced into a claw grip lol. It’s pretty comfortable and I’m happy with it, but I always think about what could have been, considering this was the better mouse for me on paper.

Maybe have a look at the Haste 2 next if you can, Zy. And by the way, welcome back king!

the king is back 👑

Great review as per usual, also a bit nostalgic :D. Anyways, I wanted to ask you something in regards to the MZ1 wireless, because I'm considering buying it. I know that it uses a slightly controversial MCU known for its idle delay (about 10ms extra click latency if the mouse hasn't been moved for 5 seconds). However, I also know that XTRFY's newest mouse - the M8 - has some new firmware that removed this 'problem.' My question to you is: Do you know if this firmware has applied to the MZ1 wireless as well - or in other words, is that idle delay no longer an issue? Thanks in advance, and hope more reviews are coming soon!

I wonder when Razer is going to update their Orochi. Actually I use V2 now and I think this is the best size and shape for me. By your encouragement I've switched Steelseries Prime Wirless to G305, and then I've tried Orochi V2. I was comparing Orochi vs G305, despite your opnion that Logi has better shape, I've found that Razer suits me more. It feels more stable and confident in my hand than G305. Maybe that's because of my hand ratio - 17:9,5cm, which is more similar to orochi v2 ratio 🤔

More from Zy

would you choose the new wireless zowie ECs over the deathadder? I'm loving the DAV3 but I'm tempted to buy the ECW and compare.

The stuttering in Quake Champions at higher polling rates with raw input enabled is a conundrum to me. I have two PCs one x470 based one x570 and I’ve found that the hitch only happened on the x570 pc. I have tried all the tricks and hints I could read up on to fix it on the x570 none have worked. It happens at 4k polling with a viper v2 pro and a Gwolves 4k as well but stops at 2k. I don’t have any wired mice to test the 8k but I’m sure the issue would persist.

Hi, I’ve been using a Mamba Elite for the last few years and it only recently started acting up (random disconnects from the computer at random intervals which interrupt tracking), previously I used the DeathAdder Elite but i much prefer the shape of the Mamba Elite (I find the outward curvature on the deathadder elite, especially on the right side (when looking from top down) to be too aggressive) (I also love the tilt scroll since I play games and do programming too but I know this feature is not really a thing in modern gaming mice). I have rather big hands and prefer a asymmetrical mouse shape. I’ve been looking to get a new mouse to replace my current dying Mamba Elite though I’m not sure what to choose. I’ve heard that the DeathAdder V2 has slightly reduced curvature but I’m not sure how much that is the case and how much closer it is to the Mamba and how this new V3 model compares to it too. I’m also open to other options from other manufacturers. What recommendations/suggestions would you be able to give for my case? Thanks in advance!

In your video from January 2021 you stated quake champions runs fine on the 8k viper (1:07 in that old video) yet here you showed there were stutters in quake champions. So QC is unplayable at 8k hz at the time of recording?

Love your reviews from a lot of years until today. Over the years I've bought mouses based on your reviews and feedback. I love the old deathadder mouses, but I simply can't use them, since they slip (a LOT) from my hand, especially where it holds the mouse with pinky finger and ring finger. Was a nightmare to me, reposition the crosshair, since mouse it slips real hard from my hand. With the new model v3, it's wayyyy more confortable and stable (less slippy ) - and I have medium/large hands 19.5cm x 10cm. I've tested the razer viper 8k and feels super Confortable using multi-task and gaming, Viper doesn't slip on my hand, at all. . Love the viper, but I am in doubt between the 2. But that's not the principal point. One ("stupid" but with logic) question; did you consider Steelseries Qck+ a control mousepad? Finally I found some mice's that I like and suites me , with great shape,flawless sensor and great specs - Razer deathadder v3 wired, and Razer Viper 8K. But after many years (since ever) using Qck (without even thinking about it) I just found now, that this mouse pad feels to fast to me, and makes me have lack of control while gaming and consistency - CS Go - essencially. But since i'de don't experienced other mouse pads, I need a real trusted feedback. Many says that Qck is a control pad, and many other says that is a medium speed mouse pad and not a control pad. I would appreciate opinions, about this subject, especially from you Ninja. Maybe it's a plabebo effect on my head. Or the qck is truly a control mouse pad, compared to all other mouse pads. Like I said, could be placebo effect, but I feel that I have no control over the mouse on this mouse pad, it slips like butter, I feel no actrict / control / stopping power., slides a lotttt, what make me think that it's more a speed pad then a true control pad.. That's the reason of my question - maybe qck is a truly control mouse pad, but I have no comparasion, since I've always used qck+ (first I used the hard surface versions 5D? I think, then I use the qck fabric version for long years, till today . But I notice that I can't place the corroshair always on same spot, even I spend hours training aim, and mechanics.

What about the feel of 1-3-1 vs 1-2-2 grip? PS. What the pros use might might be skewed due to sponsors.

I wish if you implement sensor latency in your review.. Would be the first on youtube, besides that it's the most important one.

wow great review... i miss the old rjn, you know... the controversial one :)

yes, the mamba elite is a very good shape, even better than EC-1, old deathadders e.t.c because the mamba elite has less nuanced curves, more confident slopes. the ec1, DA dont need to be that long in length, the mamba elite proves that by having a better elevating feel that hooks your fingers more therefore not having to flay them out to reach the best click area with finger

Whatever aspect ratio you used to record this I love it. Looks awesome in theater mode.

will you be doing a viper ultimate v2 review?

The shape is so close to a perfect ergo but I just absolutely despise the front right side. The ring finger ledge feels like it cuts off way too early (I have never had a mouse feel like it's just missing over an entire cm for a finger before), it's not rounded or wide enough, and the flare somehow seems more intense than the V2 in my hand despite clearly being more recessed. But I'm a picky 403 user who literally only likes the Makalu 67 and MM712 lol

the click latency on the 8k mouse is still sent at 8k even if the mouse sensor is set to 1000. Its always at the lowest latency of clicks

Dav3 wireless with 4k here. 1) dont want to go back to 1k. 4k feels fanstastic paired with 240hz monitor 2) im usually a palm gripper, but I go into fingertip gradually and it feels good like its natural 3) I really wish the clicks were a bit quieter. I switch to my superlight at night time just because the clicks are too loud, but they are satisfying. Would of been a perfect mouse for me if the clicks were quieter and lighter just my preference and opinion. 4) 4k drains battery almost a bajillion times faster! Went from charging once a week to charging once maybe every other day. (Heavy usage) maybe can last 3 or more days if not heavy user.

Now having the deathadder even if you don't have pain with the viper it might just be uncomfortable having to grip harder to get more stability on the viper especially with bigger hands, the DAV3 also gives you a more locked stable feeling (using claw grip)

i am curious as to why you havent designed a "wide" mouse? like the coolmaster mm720 with width of 7cm or more? i have 20x10 hands and even though this mouse is short it is the WIDTH that makes it feel good in the hand. this is because it fills more of the pouch of your palm therefore reducing the manipulating needed to "grasp" the mouse, reducing fatigue and causing your hand to flare outward by force so no energy is spent on contracting your hand. we need mice with new ergo shapes with 7CM or more width

The huge $200-300 range for the top end of wireless mice makes them cost prohibitive for a lot of gamers. Could you consider doing a 'budget wireless' roundup video?

Sometimes i can feel thedifferent between 1000hz and changing it to lower, and then u can feel it the delays more slows when playing csgo with 50 - 40 fps. I think i like the 4k polling rate mouse ofc, as a high sens...

can u do a review on the Xtrfy m8 wireless? it looks oddly comfy

Disabling CPU C-States in your BIOS will solve the stuttering seen at 7:50 for anyone who owns a 4khz or 8hkz mouse. Your CPU will maybe run a bit hotter and consume a bit more power, but this solved the stuttering in Quake Champions, Apex, everything.

I pulled out my Deathadder V2 because Im starting to feel some discomfort (on HyperX Pulsefire Haste atm). What I couldnt stand and it only now has become a problem is that tge overhang on mouse2 button is where my finger gets stuck in. Looks like it wouldnt be a problem on V3. But I dont want to give Razer my money tbh.

The goat!

Not sure if placebo or not but ive noticed higher scores in kovaak's and better valorant scores in the firing range 8k vs 1k and if i focus enough, i can notice the difference in accuracy Edit: am on viper 8k

I liked the OG DeathAdder because it was the biggest mouse I could find for my large hands so now I'm looking to upgrade to the latest version I'm annoyed to see it looks smaller. Has anyone bought this mouse who could tell me otherwise or can suggest a different mouse for big hands?

My hands are 19X10 cm...Can I get used to Viper Mini if I use Hybrid Grip (Relaxed Claw + Palm) ??? Or is it too small??? Coming from G203.

Have u tried the Viper signature edition or Pulsar X2?

Great review mate! Please if you get a chance when it comes out have a look at the pulsar xlite v3

i got big hands and wanted a solid light mouse for palm grip I assume this fits that ?

In the beginning which is the v3 right or left?

you should buy or see if theres a viewer who would be willing to send you the original razer boomslang mouse. ik it would be different compared to what you usually focus on for this channel but it would make for some really cool content if you compared the two since your channel is actually focused on gaming mice.

I currently have a 3 year old razer deathadder v2, and I want to buy either the DA v2 pro or the DA v3 wired. Which one should I get?

I like my DeathAdder V2 a lot, despite Synapse is horrible. Since I have big hands I would definitely choose a DeathAdder V3 if I had to buy a new mouse. I love that they removed the RGB. It's useless anyway, since you hardly see it while using the mouse. Less weight and less options to configure in Synapse is just great. Last but not least, I also like that they removed the side pads. On my V2, the pad in the thumb area was already heavily worn after a few months, which of course also continuously changed the grip feeling in that area. I'm happy to avoid the side pads and enjoy a consistent grip instead.

I seriously used to love razer products, their ergos are honestly pretty top. The only beef i have with them as a company is the longevity of their products. I have broken basically every razer product i have owned within a year of buying it. Had a zowie ec2-a for over a decade, thing is still going strong, gonna retire it and put it in a display cabinet soon :p

I use the wired at 4K hz because of the price, not gonna pay 2x for wireless + dongle. All in all, the wired version comes out on top for me because of the price to performance ratio.

any plans to test the VAXEE XE WIRELESS?

I noticed on your website that Final mouse isn't on the list anymore, is there any reason for this? I remember the starlight series were rank 1 but I can't seem to find it anymore.

I hope razer will make a dav3 mini wired 8khz and rvm wired 8khz

Would it be a good option for a relaxed Claw grip. My hand size is 19x10.5cm

My hands are at 17.5cm x 9x5 cm. i’ve been claw/palming my deathadder v2 forever, and the deathadder elite before that. I tried the steelseries rival 650, model O wired, and the razer naga. none of their shapes have called to me since. i’m interested in the v3. i’m very used to larger mice, as you can probably tell, but i’m also very curious about smaller mice due to so many people saying smaller is better. i cant seem to find anything that’s wireless, has updated specs, and is small enough that is sold on US Amazon. (i have a gift card i’d like to use on my next mouse) Any suggestions are highly appreciated. Thank you guys:)

I have the DAV3 Pro and love it, but the scrollwheel is jumping pretty often for me and i read that more people have that problem. So beware of that if you are thinking of buying. Love the review btw!

I really want to try the 4000hz 8000hz this but being left handed sucks as i hate that the buttons are at my pinky finger and ring finger. I like to be able to hit it with my thumb

its actually the first deathadder i can use because with the old design i always got my ring finger stuck under the right mouse button or pressed it by accident xD

I guess now I'm really sure what shape of mouse I'll look for starting now Edit: I like how the mouse skates looks like a person smiling

I find myself touching the scroll wheel with my index finger (unintentionally) whenever I'm doing fast movements, or swift vertical movements (like when you're editing in Fortnite) what should I do? My hands are 20x11 at least.

Hi! I want dae3 wired for a palm grip, its ok for 17.5 cm with 9 cm? In the video is almost the same size of hand and looks ok for palm. Thanks!!!

I have a Logitech G402 and need a new mouse as my side button is faulty and when i play games the mouse sensor feels slow or laggy so will the Razer deathAdder v3 wired be better on the speed with the sensor movement. I did bought the same logitech mouse on ebay thinking it will be fine but the sensor just feels slower even though it the same make mouse G402 so it must be a manufacturer problem that if your lucky you get a good mouse on the sensor.

I had problems with razor mouse. I had the Razer mini's and it stop working. I bought another one because it took 4 weeks for a replacement, So I end up with two of them. Then I started to get cramps the death header version two special edition, But I had to pronounce that. Where I rest my thumb on the rubber side grip got pushed in and made a round crater, like my thumb melted an Indent on it. Then the second part I don't like is the switches we're hard to push down the click, so my finger started to hurt. So I ended up getting the wired Logitech G502X but Their switches have an annoying sound click to it. I don't like their shiny buttons.

plz can u do top list for mousepads

I been running both Viper 8khz wired and DAV3 Wired and i definitely aim better and more accurately on the Viper. DAV3 is my backup now, but the Viper just has a better accuracy to me, i think its because my hand being flat vs angled gives me better reaction accuracy instead of being angled slightly, but idk. All i know is im nasty with the Viper. Razer just keeps winning regardless

i like the dav 3 shape but i feel like i lose all of the control i used to have with the lamzu mini. still debating if bigger mouse or smaller mouse is better for me...

Windows 11 fairs better with high polling rate/ turning off stuff running in the background helps alot. I cant do 8k on every game unless i only have the game running. Also look into interrupt affinity it helped me alot putting my mouse to 1 core, im also running off a 5950x 32gigs 3200mhz 4090.