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Razor MX650 BTR Power Lithium Battery Pack Installation | 48V 20AH 2000W Kunray Brushless Motor 

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@TURBOMOOSE
@TURBOMOOSE 2 года назад
I would suggest using the foam in the box as a padding for the platters tray to reduce vibrations from riding. Acts as a damper.
@TURBOMOOSE
@TURBOMOOSE 2 года назад
Let's see 35 mph! Can't wait for you to feel the difference
@PatOutdoors
@PatOutdoors 2 года назад
Hard to say what my real top speed was because there was so much elevation changes on our ride. Some uphills my bike was struggle bussing to even go 12 MPH (but SUPER steep climb), but then goes over 40 MPH bombing down hill. I have to do a separate top speed run on the same road I usually ride on by my neighborhood since it's got long flat sections. I wanna say you are about right with 35ish though.
@papawyatt5743
@papawyatt5743 10 месяцев назад
hay pat just womdering if you can do a indef video on the wirimg fopr the battery thanks.
@christianpudy4798
@christianpudy4798 6 месяцев назад
Same lol
@DirtDigglerDetecting
@DirtDigglerDetecting 2 года назад
You do such a Great Job. I really like that new battery. Fit perfect kind of. 40mph, good thing you disc breaks now :) hehe You Rock Buddy
@PatOutdoors
@PatOutdoors 2 года назад
Thanks! You too!
@DirtDigglerDetecting
@DirtDigglerDetecting 2 года назад
@@PatOutdoors How wwas your ride today ?
@Chasedroog
@Chasedroog 2 года назад
Dang man quality battery, very impressive. I really like your build, quite similar to mine
@Dommy_Doo
@Dommy_Doo 2 года назад
Ive been lovin your videos lately, keep up the good work!
@PatOutdoors
@PatOutdoors 2 года назад
Thanks, will do!
@querochita
@querochita Год назад
@@PatOutdoors hello I have same tipe of battery same size please what size of fuse do you used on the charging and the discharging? Thank you
@mikemoe3481
@mikemoe3481 2 года назад
Pat you should do 72v 3000w in the near future. It has very good torque . Love the content keep it coming
@PatOutdoors
@PatOutdoors 2 года назад
That may be a plan for the next build actually..
@RokeroLoko
@RokeroLoko Год назад
Just seen that video😂
@Puneet.K-z7r
@Puneet.K-z7r 4 месяца назад
Hey pat why do have such good videos. just want to ask how much range did the sla batteries have
@ronerdeleon3049
@ronerdeleon3049 Год назад
Hi I just wanted to ask why you need to install voltage reducer if the battery and controller are both 48v?thank you
@PatOutdoors
@PatOutdoors Год назад
That’s only for the 12v accessories wired up like the headlight. The controller for the motor is still getting 48 volts
@olegbeldii
@olegbeldii Месяц назад
Hey pat I love the builds trying to do one too people say the btr battery you use are not reliable and catch on fire I wanted to know how long you had yours and does it still work?
@PatOutdoors
@PatOutdoors Месяц назад
This 48V battery failed on me after one month and I replaced it with a 72V BtR battery as well due to my budget at the time.. it still works just fine today (after almost two years), but I’m likely upgrading to either Amorge or electro & co very soon
@olegbeldii
@olegbeldii Месяц назад
@@PatOutdoors thank you very much my budget for battery is $350 and wanted to see if this would work and side question did the battery fail cause it was a bad battery or is it just a btr battery problem
@jeffreyericksonracing
@jeffreyericksonracing Год назад
Hey i bought the same battery and motor and controller because of your videos, do you use fuses? I just can’t even figure it out and i don’t wanna burn my house down.
@PatOutdoors
@PatOutdoors Год назад
What part are you having trouble figuring out?
@ACRvetracer
@ACRvetracer Год назад
Hi, we are thinking there should be a fuse at the battery in case of a short circuit. We don’t see one in the video. Thanks
@PatOutdoors
@PatOutdoors Год назад
@@ACRvetracer You can add an inline fuse for the power line to the controller.
@jeffreyericksonracing
@jeffreyericksonracing Год назад
@@PatOutdoors Ok Thank you! We are going to use a 30 amp fuse, is that a good size?
@CALLMESpacee
@CALLMESpacee Год назад
Hey thanl you a tons for the tutorial of setting up a btr battery. I been looking everywhere for this video do you have a more detailed video?
@podge337
@podge337 Год назад
Hi I was wondering if you had or could do a tutorial battery of how exactly to wire a btr battery in. I have a myway electric bike and upgrading to a btr battery. It looks similar to the wiring you this on this but just to have it broken down slower thanks
@PatOutdoors
@PatOutdoors Год назад
What do you mean how to wire it? It has four wires total. Two wires go to the charge port, two wires go to the controller. Check out my newest video, which should give you a better idea.
@christianpudy4798
@christianpudy4798 6 месяцев назад
@@PatOutdoorshow to wire them up the battery to the Anderson connectors and what you need to do so
@kennydifficult666
@kennydifficult666 Год назад
Started modify my project mini and I installed the vevor 48v but ran stock 36v battery and won't give any motor throttle response 😓 thinking a battery upgrade would fix that so I can finally rip it ☘️☘️☘️
@PatOutdoors
@PatOutdoors Год назад
Yeah the 48V controller is not designed to work with 36V.. it’s got an internal cut off not to power on the bike at around below 41V. You either need to add a 4th 12v battery to run in series to convert to 48v or just buy a lithium battery
@kennydifficult666
@kennydifficult666 Год назад
@@PatOutdoors thanks for the insight bro and keep being a legend your content has been a huge help 🙏🏾☘️
@internalbeats6870
@internalbeats6870 Год назад
Thanks for all of your videos and insight. I have a couple MX650s for my son and I. I am going back and forth with trying to decide on either the Amazon power upgrades motor/controller/battery kits or electro and co. I’d rather not have to spend E&C prices of the Amazon stuff has longevity. You seem like you may do a lot of research as well. Do you think the Amazon “stuff” will last? Thanks in advance for your help.
@PatOutdoors
@PatOutdoors Год назад
I really like the Kunray kits as a budget complete kit to start with l, but the controllers simply don’t put out as much as the Kelly controllers that come with the E&C kits so you’ll get power hungry eventually. It really depends what your goals are with the bike.
@internalbeats6870
@internalbeats6870 Год назад
@@PatOutdoors wow, thank you for your quick response. I totally agree with the power hunter. I want to do it once, so my plan is to go for a 72v kit right out of the gate. I just wondered if the quality of the Kunray will sustain a few rides each week of heavy neighborhood riding. Do you wish you would have just done E&C or are you satisfied with the Kunray / Amazon upgrades?
@PatOutdoors
@PatOutdoors Год назад
@@internalbeats6870 well I can confirm the original 48V Kunray motor has been holding up well over the last year or so, going through (3) different controllers in search for power. I kinda wish I would have gone with their 72v kit from the beginning, but I simply do all this to experience the differences between all stages just to educate myself. The Kelly controller upgrade I just did was simply an experiment to see if it would actually gain more torque and reach a top new speed with ONLY changing the controller and I can certainly confirm it’s a must have if you’re power hungry. But I’ve finally reached my goals and happy with where my bike is now..
@internalbeats6870
@internalbeats6870 Год назад
@@PatOutdoors you’re very thorough in your videos, for that I’m extremely grateful for your shared experiences. I’m not looking to build an unridable monster. We have a lot of steep hills in our big neighborhood, so I want the power to climb them, the battery life to enjoy the bike longer than an hr, and the reliability to have to buy everything a second time. That’s not too much to ask, right? Lol Again thank you for your responses and help. I Look forward to your future videos.
@PatOutdoors
@PatOutdoors Год назад
@@internalbeats6870 Thanks! well then if that’s the case, their 72v kit with at least a 20AH battery would do the job.
@StarTrooper47
@StarTrooper47 11 месяцев назад
I see you are running a 48v 20ah lipo battery pack. I took 4 12.8v 10ah batteries and hooked 4 up to make a 48v 40ah battery pack but I want to double my range on my Mx650 2000w Vevor motor n controller. so you should try 8 12.8v 4x2 in series producing 48v 80ah now you can go 60+miles on a charge.
@PatOutdoors
@PatOutdoors 11 месяцев назад
I’m already 72volts on this bike today. Don’t think there’s much more space in the factory covers, max 28 ah maybe
@StarTrooper47
@StarTrooper47 11 месяцев назад
@@PatOutdoors I would have to make a custom cover but what people usually do is cut off that second shelf the little one that way you can make room for the bigger battery pack in my setup I'm running 4-12 volt lithium iron phosphate alarm batteries 10 amps each I am thinking about running eight of those to make 80 amps that would be eight batteries. With the setup I have I can do at least 34 mph
@baitcarp
@baitcarp 9 месяцев назад
"I took 4 12.8v 10ah batteries and hooked 4 up to make a 48v 40ah battery pack" Four 12v 10ah batteries does not make 48v 40ah... that's 48v 10ah if wired in series
@PatOutdoors
@PatOutdoors 9 месяцев назад
@@baitcarp this is correct, I think he may have misunderstood that.
@kjam640
@kjam640 Год назад
Wassup brotha! Does the BTR battery/charger tell you when the battery is fully charged?
@PatOutdoors
@PatOutdoors Год назад
The charger light just turns from red to green
@Jsosodke
@Jsosodke 6 месяцев назад
I got the vevor 2000w motor and I wired everything up, however when I give throttle the motor barely spins a millimeter, please tell me how to fix it
@Delux15
@Delux15 2 месяца назад
Hi Pat, I have this same kit with the same battery and a 13 tooth sprocket and I’m only hitting 32 mph Do you know why that might be?, Thanks
@PatOutdoors
@PatOutdoors 2 месяца назад
Different rear tire overall diameter. This bike was running a 3.5” wide street tire in the back (paper thin clearance against the motor), also I weigh 170 at the time, not sure how much you weighed. This bike goes over 50 now with a different 72V set up though..
@Burrito_on_120
@Burrito_on_120 Год назад
where did you get your supermoto wheels?
@keithturner7635
@keithturner7635 Год назад
What up Pat. Quick question. Once the lithium battery is installed, do I have to unplug the battery from the controller to charge and if the charger connector fits my razor charger port perfectly can I use my fast scooter overstock charger?
@PatOutdoors
@PatOutdoors Год назад
The lithium battery I used came with its own charge port and charger. I installed that charge port on the side cover. And no, please DO NOT try to use lead acid battery charger on a lithium battery.
@patv6928
@patv6928 Год назад
Pat , did you upgrade the wheels / tires
@PatOutdoors
@PatOutdoors Год назад
Stock wheels, though tires are upsized DOT street tires
@javon161
@javon161 2 года назад
Not sure if I missed something but why do you have a voltage reducer if the whole power train is now 48 volts
@PatOutdoors
@PatOutdoors 2 года назад
I don't. The voltage reducer is ONLY hooked up to the LED headlight.
@danescoasters7163
@danescoasters7163 11 месяцев назад
thinking of getting this battery and motor/controller combo. how easy is it to install for a beginner with 0 experience?
@gollygee23
@gollygee23 3 месяца назад
What did you end up doing? I’m also a complete beginner
@billyhendrix
@billyhendrix Год назад
How much range did you get with the upgrade, and how many volts until the BMS kicks in on that battery to say its dead?
@PatOutdoors
@PatOutdoors Год назад
Tested this in a separate video. Starts fully charged around 55 volts. Got about 26 miles before it cut off at 43 volts.
@SirusTheVirus
@SirusTheVirus Год назад
How was the BTR battery? and would u have any stock 650 motor or controllers 4sale?
@PatOutdoors
@PatOutdoors Год назад
I had issues with my first 48V pack, but warranty took care of me and I got the 72V pack not long after and it's been good since. I don't have any factory controllers anymore, only brushless controllers
@microsoftword4045
@microsoftword4045 Год назад
What’s the range on it
@keithturner7635
@keithturner7635 Год назад
Hey Pat l, what's going on. Keith again. Just got my lithium battery. Plugged it up good to go. Haven't driven yet though, just got charger for battery today. So my question is.......if my charger fits my charger port, can I charge battery through controller? Or do I have to charge straight to lithium battery? Lithium battery that I ordered has white connector that fits the charger port I have.
@keithturner7635
@keithturner7635 Год назад
Just need a semi recap on a past question. You've really helped me thru my razor build journey. Preciate it mane. Stay blessed
@PatOutdoors
@PatOutdoors Год назад
What controller do you have? I still recommend having the charger go to the charge port, then from charge port directly to the battery wires. Skip the controller
@keithturner7635
@keithturner7635 Год назад
@@PatOutdoors the fast scooter overvolt controller
@PatOutdoors
@PatOutdoors Год назад
@@keithturner7635 Ooohhh the brushed controller.. Yeah you can hook it up to charge through the controller then
@keithturner7635
@keithturner7635 Год назад
@@PatOutdoors Word. Thanks again and stay rollin bro.
@jakubthewildbirdsaver2947
@jakubthewildbirdsaver2947 9 месяцев назад
Isn’t cutting out the top tray gonna weaken the frame ? Because I have one and I want to do the same
@PatOutdoors
@PatOutdoors 9 месяцев назад
Nope, it just holds the top battery. The SX500 doesn’t even have the upper tray. Everybody with an MX500 or MX650 with a lithium battery installed has to do this.
@jakubthewildbirdsaver2947
@jakubthewildbirdsaver2947 9 месяцев назад
@@PatOutdoors oh cause I was thinking when you hit a bump or go off roading the frame will bend a little from the bumps
@jakubthewildbirdsaver2947
@jakubthewildbirdsaver2947 9 месяцев назад
@@PatOutdoors thanks for telling me I sure can’t wait to upgrade my dirt bike the same way as my dirt bike’s original circuit board is starting to fail
@PatOutdoors
@PatOutdoors 9 месяцев назад
@@jakubthewildbirdsaver2947 it’s not a structural part of the frame. That specific part’s purpose is specifically to hold a battery. Google what a Razor SX500 frame looks like
@jakubthewildbirdsaver2947
@jakubthewildbirdsaver2947 9 месяцев назад
@@PatOutdoors I know what the frame looks like it’s just I was just making sure cause I go off-roading a lot and going off ramps and stuff but thanks for telling me
@onewheelmac
@onewheelmac Месяц назад
will a vevor 2000w motor work with the battery?
@PatOutdoors
@PatOutdoors Месяц назад
@@onewheelmac Depends what controller you are using.. just has to be rated as the same voltage as the battery
@Bassin07Si
@Bassin07Si 8 месяцев назад
Is this battery still going strong?? I know everyone recommends amorge but I just need something for my wife's bike thats 48v and around 20ah and I don't want to wait forever.
@PatOutdoors
@PatOutdoors 8 месяцев назад
This failed after a while, now I have 72V amorge
@cii5korea217
@cii5korea217 2 месяца назад
@@PatOutdoorswhere did you purchase the amorge 72v?
@mdc237
@mdc237 6 месяцев назад
Could I use the BTR 48v 20ah battery on the stock rsf650 with the stock motor to just increase my range and slightly boost mph to like 22?
@PatOutdoors
@PatOutdoors 6 месяцев назад
As long as the dimensions fit your tray, yeah that should work. 22 MPH is also right in the ballpark range (+33% current top speed)
@matthewkx1006
@matthewkx1006 4 месяца назад
What is a voltage step down for
@PatOutdoors
@PatOutdoors 4 месяца назад
12v accessories like an LED headlamp should not be run on 48V. It would burn out immediately
@Oliedo
@Oliedo Год назад
Do you think I can put a 48volt 30ah
@PatOutdoors
@PatOutdoors Год назад
Depends on the manufacturer’s dimensions and shape of the battery. Also depends if you care to have the black plastic side covers on. Some people jam a 72v 34Ah on their bike and not have the plastics
@arturamaralable
@arturamaralable Год назад
Is it possible to not cut metel if you have a razor sx500
@PatOutdoors
@PatOutdoors Год назад
Yes. The sx500 has more room for a large battery. I recommend measuring your battery tray before purchasing a battery
@arturamaralable
@arturamaralable Год назад
Ok 👍
@onionboy6934
@onionboy6934 Год назад
when I click the battery link I get a (48v 10ah 168$) and it looks different the other option is a (48v 25ah) and its a lot more pricey 439$ i cant find your 48v 20ah
@PatOutdoors
@PatOutdoors Год назад
Maybe they don't have it in stock anymore. If you don't need a very high output, you can do an 18ah one with 30amp output like this: amzn.to/3Z5L7P0 You gotta cut the upper trey from the frame to fit it still.
@onionboy6934
@onionboy6934 Год назад
@@PatOutdoors and this will be ok with the 2000w motor?
@tyronesharp8115
@tyronesharp8115 6 месяцев назад
btr battery been causing fires lately...
@narellehopkins4989
@narellehopkins4989 Год назад
is there a way i could do this to a bicycle
@PatOutdoors
@PatOutdoors Год назад
Yes, but the frame would have to have space for it. What kind of bike are you thinking of?
@narellehopkins4989
@narellehopkins4989 Год назад
it is a normal mountain bike and what battery
@Oliedo
@Oliedo Год назад
What is the range on the sla battery
@PatOutdoors
@PatOutdoors Год назад
I wanna say 20 miles? It's been so long since I had this set-up. But I did a range test video immediately after this one: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-bN_xu3_zFNQ.html
@Oliedo
@Oliedo Год назад
Is that 20 miles with full throttle?
@PatOutdoors
@PatOutdoors Год назад
Yes, mostly. A lot of hills though if you watched the video.. I just re-read your question. 20 miles with the BTR pack on this video. Your question said SLA, which is my super old set up. That's probably like 12 miles
@Oliedo
@Oliedo Год назад
I just got the fastscooter charger but it’s not charging do you know how to fix it ?
@PatOutdoors
@PatOutdoors Год назад
@@Oliedo I recommend contacting the seller you purchased it from. I've never had an issue with mine. The wiring from the charge port to the controller could have been hooked up incorrectly.
@stevenscoolin
@stevenscoolin 2 года назад
Would you sell me those old stock batteries lol?!!
@PatOutdoors
@PatOutdoors 2 года назад
Maybeee.. Depends if I pick up a second project for my lady to ride on.
@stevenscoolin
@stevenscoolin 2 года назад
@@PatOutdoors I only joke! Ha I appreciate it though like your bike a lot been following your progress!
@tronoss5181
@tronoss5181 7 месяцев назад
Y o
@mozzde4675
@mozzde4675 11 месяцев назад
What’s the range on it
@arturamaralable
@arturamaralable Год назад
Would a vevor 2000w motor work and give the same top speed?
@PatOutdoors
@PatOutdoors Год назад
Top speed is mostly dependent on Battery voltage, the speed controller and the tune.
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