Razor MX650 Fast Scooters Overvolt Kit 48V Range Test and Run Time Testing | Neighborhood Tour

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Since I've modded my Razor Dirt Rocket MX650 with the Fast Scooters "Over Volt" Kit, added a 13-Tooth 25H front sprocket, and a fourth 12V SLA battery.. I haven't done another range test or run time test, so today I will be doing just that.
My build list (so far):
. Razor Dirt Rocket MX650 Electric Bike: amzn.to/3yS2U1A
. Mighty Max 12V 12AH SLA Battery: amzn.to/3yOuzPR
. Fast Scooters Over-Volt Controller Kit: ebay.us/Qgh9DN
. Fast Scooters 55-Volt Charger: ebay.us/ISO7xc
. 13-Tooth 25H Sprocket: ebay.us/N3bjVg
. DNM 165mm Rear Shock: amzn.to/3yUP9PA
. Pro Taper 8.6" Handlebar Pad: amzn.to/3Rl9Vit
. FOX Racing decal: amzn.to/3yUDtwg
. Nilight 6" LED 6000K Light Bar: amzn.to/3c5WcMw
. 7/8" Handlebar Light Switch: amzn.to/3nRkD2J
. Pro Chaser Voltage Step-Down Converter: amzn.to/3nUrt7L
These are affiliate links, which means I may get a very small percentage if you decide to make a purchase. Thank you for watching and supporting this channel!

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@TURBOMOOSE 2 года назад

thanks for answering my request! i really appreciate this. and thanks to you i have purchased a mx500 and doing similar mods! thanks for the awesome vid!

@PatOutdoors 2 года назад

Glad I could help! Good luck with your build man

@TURBOMOOSE 2 года назад

@@PatOutdoors super appreciate it! Went with a Texas electrik piggyback kit, 13t sprocket and a 48v 15.6ah lithium batt. Going to order a 2000w vevor motor next month and then duplicate your suspension goodies 😀

@Chasedroog 2 года назад

How do you connect your led headlight to the 48v

@PatOutdoors 2 года назад

You wire a voltage step-down converter like thisL amzn.to/3ReEtBF

@Chasedroog 2 года назад

@@PatOutdoors cool! I’ll do some research

@KeatonsCarlott 2 года назад

@@Chasedroog want a light does the voltage up to 80v?

@Chasedroog 2 года назад

@@KeatonsCarlott yeah what you got keaton

@KeatonsCarlott 2 года назад

Ill have BUDGET LITHIUM BATTERY PACKS AVAILABLE SOON.

@PatOutdoors 2 года назад

May have to wait for this for my Off-road build!

@KeatonsCarlott 2 года назад

@@PatOutdoors ih my goodness. Offroad build? Get a dnm ar22 240mm or longer. Well add some stretch to your arm. With the hydraulic forks. You'll be outpacing : apollo, viper , ssr, orions bikes!.

@PatOutdoors 2 года назад

@@KeatonsCarlott Thought you weren't doing anymore arms!

@juvenalgonzalez8756 11 месяцев назад

What’s your top speed with a 48v ?

@gollygee23 2 месяца назад

I know this post is very old so you probably won’t see this comment but. If i were to get a 48v 20ah battery would it work with the stock motor?

@PatOutdoors 2 месяца назад

With a matching 48v brushed controller, yes

@gollygee23 2 месяца назад

@@PatOutdoorsAlso, with the added 12v battery and the overvolt kit (the ones you used in this video) would they need the upgraded charger? or would stock work

@PatOutdoors 2 месяца назад

@@gollygee23 need a 48v sealed lead acid charger (like the one in the description) to charge 4 SLA batteries to 48 volts. Stock will not work. You need a charger specific for lithium if you get the 20ah lithium battery though.

@gollygee23 2 месяца назад

@@PatOutdoors Sorry for asking so many questions, i just have one more. Would this fit on an sx500?

@careyparlette9342 2 года назад

Question. I have a stock mx650 that I will for sure be upgrading like this later in the future. Im wondering how the stock motor will react to the overvolt kit. Will it burn out quickly? Does it overheat? I was just riding around the trails by house and trying to go up hills when I smelled something burning and the motor had some smoke coming from it. Just wondering if the overvolt kit is worth it for the stock motor or will it just absolutely fry it when riding on dirt and going up hills. Maybe do a hill climb test video? BTW, love this series, keep it going!!!!

@PatOutdoors 2 года назад

Thanks! I've actually been trying to burn up the stock motor so I have an excuse, but have failed so far. I even did a burnout for 5 minutes with zero break off the throttle just to try to put stress on it (my video after this one.) I got impatient and ordered a KUNRAY brushless kit, but not planning on installing it just yet. I want to do more testing with the stock motor.

@cerealregent 2 года назад

I love these videos thank you!

@olgachorna2063 Год назад

Could you add a 1800w motor to it and would it be compatible or is there a watt limit to the 4 12v batteries

@PatOutdoors Год назад

Depends on the controller output. These brushed controllers can't produce more than 1000W so there's no point of putting a bigger brushed motor on. At that point, get an 1800W BRUSHLESS 48V motor/controller kit.

@olgachorna2063 Год назад

@@PatOutdoors So the overvolt kit controller cant produce more than 1000w watts or are you talking about the stock controller and also would a vevor 1800w motor kit work?

@PatOutdoors Год назад

@@olgachorna2063 I was talking about the overvolt kit controller. I wouldn't even try this on the stock controller. Yes, a vevor kit will work, that's what I used on my other MX650 for a while, if you want to go over my later videos.

@michaelmunroe3134 2 года назад

Would you get more range if you added one of the the 15ah version to the 3 stock batteries?

@PatOutdoors 2 года назад

I don't think so, not without having all (4) batteries be a 15ah. Once the (3) 12ah batteries lose charge and drop voltage, the controller would likely cut power so the 4th being a 15ah wouldn't make too much of a difference.

@twobrosballin2731 Год назад

I installed the exact same Overvolted Scooters kit on my MX650 yesterday. I followed the directions in your first two installation videos (thanks!). According to my phone app, I'm only getting a 5 MPH increase (22.5 mph) on flat asphalt with a 70-pound rider, 13T sprocket, and brand new batteries. I don't know why I'm not getting the 10mph that you're seeing. Any idea as to what might be the issue?

@PatOutdoors Год назад

Confirm the voltage the controller is getting with a volt meter. What size are your tires?

@twobrosballin2731 Год назад

Thanks for the reply. The throttle volt meter says 53.8 volts when fully charged. I'm using the stock tires, which I assume you were too. @@PatOutdoors

@twobrosballin2731 Год назад

I should mention that we did manage 24mph today with the same 70-lbs. rider.

@gamerhousewarriors4215 2 года назад

i did the overvolt build but with a 9t sprocket, i climbed big hills like nothing but the motor got super hot, is there any solution to the heat problem?

@PatOutdoors 2 года назад

Hmm I haven't found one yet. I actually just got a 9T sprocket to try out next week. I'll see if I can figure out a solution

@jpesicka492 2 года назад

Solution would be change the big sprocket? Not sure which direction but unless u want to take the 9 off that seems to be the best route

@PatOutdoors 2 года назад

@@jpesicka492 I think the motor gets hot whenever it gets excess load for long periods either way. My 13-Tooth sprocket still gets my motor hot on long up-hill roads.

@mgamga9476 2 года назад

Don't climb big hills.

@careyparlette9342 2 года назад

Ay i was trying to climb hills on the stock motor with the stock 11t sprocket. Its kinda slow climbing up stuff and cant get up super big or steep hills. However, after climbing some small hills the stock motor got super hot and was smoking, so, maybe just the motors problem

@mbuscher81 4 месяца назад

Love the videos! I’m in Loudoun, VA and looking to upgrade some razors for my kids. Thanks for the tips!

@javon161 2 года назад

How would 4 12v 15amp batteries do on the stock motor would it be worth a cheap upgrade like that to start? Would it increase range

@Chasedroog 2 года назад

Check my channel bandit, I have videos on exactly how to get started

@breddy9282 Год назад

it would increase range but not by too much

@jakubthewildbirdsaver2947 5 месяцев назад

How much ride time and miles would you have on that but with a 48v 20ah lithium battery?

@olgachorna2063 Год назад

How much AH was it when you added the 4th battery to the mx650?

@PatOutdoors Год назад

It matched whatever the factory batteries were. Didn’t change the range from stock since capacity went up 33%, but voltage and power output also went up 33% so it balances out

@olgachorna2063 Год назад

@@PatOutdoors okay thank you

@Haiasiriku Год назад

What was the overall amp hour?

@caraddixt1195 Год назад

12AH

@jeffmoen8563 5 месяцев назад

Did this modification give you any help with going up hills?

@DirtDigglerDetecting 2 года назад

That was Fun :) Nice Ride. you should wear a helmet at those speeds hehehe :)

@PatOutdoors 2 года назад

I'm working on it, just picking out one I really like!

@DirtDigglerDetecting 2 года назад

@@PatOutdoors oh Good. Cause those trails looked FUN. I seen you throttle then brake then throttle. Oh man. Good times ahead. Chest mount feels weird but i got used to it. Wife calls it my bra. LOL

@santacruzYouTube 4 месяца назад

Whats the top speed difference on each mode? PLEASE REPLY also can I do this on an MX500? THANKS

@PatOutdoors 4 месяца назад

There are no modes, this is just the fast scooters brushed controller kit. Same exact thing for an MX500, but check out my later videos.. this bike is now 72V brushless and goes over 50 with the new set up

@venkatmurthi4421 Год назад

Hello Pat - my son is turning 14 and we are in the Fairfax/Vienna area. Is the 650 a good starter bike? Are 14 yr olds allowed to ride this in VA? I see different class types and each one having their rules. Also can you suggest some good places to ride this by a 14 yr old and any suggestions? Thx.

@braydenstonge1 9 месяцев назад

yes good for him i’m 14 years old and i love mine in the future i would upgrade it to 48v to make it more fun 😊

@onionboy6934 Год назад

do you think I would get better miles without the overvolt or about the same

@PatOutdoors Год назад

If you add a 4th battery and wire it in a series, it’s naturally an overvolt to 48v. If you want more range, consider getting a lithium battery pack that’s higher capacity like a 20ah or 25AH. My 48v 20ah lithium pack got me 22 miles of range before

@onionboy6934 Год назад

@@PatOutdoors ok thanks! 👍

@onionboy6934 Год назад

@@PatOutdoors oh and i meant the fast scooters kit

@PatOutdoors Год назад

@@onionboy6934 Regardless if you have the Fast Scooters kit installed or not, 4 12V batteries wired in a series is still gonna be 48V with a higher output, not necessarily extended range.

@programmingwithbaker-codin953 Год назад

River? We’re you riding around occoquan before?

@PatOutdoors Год назад

Hmm no I was in Haymarket previously when I got this bike. Though this bike is now blue and 72V and I also did ride through Manassas area recently.

@programmingwithbaker-codin953 Год назад

Ha… my first wife was from Haymarket … but that was 25 years ago when there was nothing much there. I spent half my youth in Mananasas I’m surprised the cops don’t get you for riding that thing. NOVA is a police state compared to say Atlanta. When I was a kid I had a gasoline mini bike … I was terrified to ride it on or off-road because the authorities were always giving me a hard time.

@PatOutdoors Год назад

@@programmingwithbaker-codin953 You know.. I'm glad someone out there understands the risk of what I'm doing in my area. VA is far from CA e-bike and PEV slack rules. I occasionally take my full size dirt bike out here for testing and some think it's not a big deal at all, but Fairfax corner is a pretty strict area..

@programmingwithbaker-codin953 Год назад

@@PatOutdoors come down to city of Atlanta It’s waaaay more relaxed

@skyafricangrayparrot1544 4 месяца назад

Do u know how to check how much battery time is left on the bike because I’m not able to find a place where it says it

@PatOutdoors 4 месяца назад

The voltmeter on the throttle that comes with the kit should give you an idea.. The controller is designed to cut off below 42-43 Volts and the bike should be about 54 volts fully charged.

@KaydenJohn-mq9eq Год назад

What voltage was the controller cause when I’m about to buy it it says 72v and all these other options. Just want to get the right things

@PatOutdoors Год назад

This bike has changed set ups sooo many times. It’s a 72v brushless set up with lithium battery now, but was 48v brushed with SLA batteries at the time of this specific video

@rexreal8341 2 года назад

hub motor less friction less noise

@PatOutdoors 2 года назад

True, but they don't have one that fits this type of bike unfortunately. I'm planning on going hub motor on my other bike though.

@whosajmal Год назад

More noise is better like motors

@havynstone5520 Год назад

Do you have the stock motor on it?

@PatOutdoors Год назад

At the time of this video, yes. But I’ve changed my set up twice since then.

@jeffhendrickson8599 9 месяцев назад

So no mention of the top speed

@PatOutdoors 9 месяцев назад

This was not a top speed test, it’s a range test (distance on one charge..) Top speed with this set up with a 13t front sprocket was 27 mph. This is a long time ago and this bike now runs a 5kw set up with a 72v battery (goes 50 mph currently.)