RC Helicopter Build - Roban EC130 Mechanics, Setup & Test Flight

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In today's RC helicopter build of the Roban EC130 800 size fenestron scale RC helicopter, I'll be getting the mechanics put together, installing all the electronics, setting up the heli, and test flying the mechanics.
I always test fly scale RC helicopter mechanics outside the fuselage. I've been involved in this hobby for too many decades to trust unflown/untested mechanics in a costly scale fuselage.
Yes, it's unlikely there would be any issues considering the many collective pitch RC helicopters I've built over the past 33 years, but there is also lots that can go wrong.
I'm a flawed bald monkey after all, and with all the things that you have to get right during any large collective pitch RC helicopter helicopter build, just forgetting one little item could lead to a crash. Also, this is my very first RC helicopter build with a fenestron (fan) tail rotor - I really have no idea what to expect with it.
For the extra 15 minutes of time it took to mount these untested Roban HSM 800 mechanics on my "Flintstone Flyer", that to me is time very well spent over risking a $1500.00 fuselage.
Roban EC130 800 RC Helicopter Build Series:
Part 1 - Unboxing: • Roban EC130 RC Helicop...
Part 2 - Component Selection: • Roban EC130 RC Helicop...
Part 3 - Building Mechanics, Setup & Test Flight: • RC Helicopter Build - ...
Part 4 - Fitting Mechanics & Maiden Flight: • Scale RC Helicopter Bu...
Part 5 - Scale Details & Full Flight: • Roban EC130 Build Part...
Part 6 - Scale Pilot & Dialed In Flight : • Big Scale RC Helicopte...
Video Time Chapters:
0:00 Howdy Folks
0:24 Only 2 Issues With The Kit
1:06 Assembling Mechanics
1:28 Determining Servo Pushrod Length
2:56 Motor Position
4:04 Soldering & Mounting Motor
6:00 Fitting Torque Tube
8:11 Mechanics Finished
10:26 Rotor Head Inspection
11:04 RC Helicopter Setup
13:17 Flintstone Flyer Test Platform
14:51 Test Flying the Mechanics
19:13 Post Flight Inspection
Want to learn all about RC helicopters? Please visit my website:
www.rchelicopterfun.com/
Understanding Collective Pitch RC Helicopter Setup:
www.rchelicopterfun.com/rc-he...
List of components I'm using in this Roban 800 Super Scale EC130:
- Flight Batteries: Gens Ace 6S 5100 mAh 80C LiPo
www.buddyrc.com/products/gens...
- RX Battery: Gens Ace 2S 2400 mAh RX LiPo
www.buddyrc.com/collections/2...
- Egodrift Scale Collection brushless motor 4035hs 460kv:
www.helidirect.com/products/e...
- Castle Phoenix Edge HV 50V 120A ESC:
www.helidirect.com/products/p...
- Bavarian Demon 3X Flybarless System:
www.motionrc.com/products/bav...
- KST Brushless HV Digital BLS815-V2 Cyclic Servo:
www.buddyrc.com/collections/k...
- KST Brushless HV Digital High Torque X20-3612 Fenestron Tail Servo:
www.buddyrc.com/collections/k...
- Roban 800 Super Scale EC130 RC Heli Kit:
www.motionrc.com/products/rob...
- Roban EC130 RC helicopter 800 English Manual:
www.rchelicopterfun.com/suppo...
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This video is for information purposes only; it's no substitute for the years of collective pitch RC helicopter building & flying experience required to successfully put one of these big Roban scale kits together & fly it.
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@Rchelicopterfun Год назад

Roban EC130 800 RC Helicopter Build Series: Part 1 - Unboxing: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3qM_1fg9110.html Part 2 - Component Selection: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ycq4jW7JVao.html Part 3 - Building Mechanics, Setup & Test Flight: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-eDRr7n3Zq4g.html Part 4 - Fitting Mechanics & Maiden Flight: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-NocHFV8f90c.html Part 5 - Scale Details & Full Flight: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1Grlqsldf6M.html Part 6 - Scale Pilot & Dialed In Flight : ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-axMc8rBeIQs.html

@flyboywbl Год назад

Thanks John! You inspired me to shoot for the moon and get the 800 Huey. I have the servos installed. Been reading your ebooks. I have the Trex 450 set up with your training rates. I've almost got the nose In hover down. Fun story, I mistakenly put 350mm blades on the Trex 450 instead of the 325mm ones. Well the tail rotor got chopped off when I was powering back. Training gear saved the day. Anyway I really appreciate all your insight. Making this a lot easier.

@triskellian Год назад

It's good to see you making build videos again. I'm likening this scale project !

@donschutte1418 Год назад

A great review and build video John as usual, I have seen many of your video's they all excel thx very much for your time and effort they are much appreciated

@Rchelicopterfun Год назад

Glad you like them

@Chuckitall72 Год назад

Looks really good John. Love the scale flying!!

@Rchelicopterfun Год назад

Thanks - me too 🙂

@jimr7154 Год назад

Really looking forward to next video 👍👍

@JamesLewis-mp9zn Год назад

You're a great instructor to learn from. As always enjoyed your videos.

@Rchelicopterfun Год назад

Glad you like them 🙂

@JamesLewis-mp9zn Год назад

@@Rchelicopterfun Still refer to your E books as a great source of information. Thank you.

@shiladityahaldar5241 4 месяца назад

Awesome test platform...👍

@shademe Год назад

That is a true work of art sir you must have a $1000 in it already. Wow thank you for sharing.

@user-qg8hr6uc1e Год назад

I am preparing 700 size uh60. very helpful video. thank you.

@fpvpilot7713 Год назад

Nice video. I learned on a Gmp Cricket helicopter. No fan just a heatsink on a Os Max 28 engine and it got very hot so we ran them on the rich side to help with heat. It had a mechanical gyro on the tail rotor.

@mrkhokhar4895 9 месяцев назад

Wonderful. Very very smooth hovering, impressive work i enjoyed

@Rchelicopterfun 9 месяцев назад

Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for watching 🙂

@thomascleymans4845 День назад

very nice work.the flinstone flyer is a good solution for my next project thx john

@Rchelicopterfun 23 часа назад

Have fun

@stevestonrcguy5393 Год назад

Wow, so smooth on first flight🙌🙌🙌learned so much, thank you John🤠👍🇨🇦

@Rchelicopterfun Год назад

Thanks 👍

@KnutNukem Год назад

You seem like a nice bloke to hang out with. First time looking into RC Helis and you're making it a fun ride.

@Rchelicopterfun Год назад

Welcome aboard :)

@strodrigues Год назад

Congratulations Man, this is very nice job.

@Rchelicopterfun Год назад

Thank you! Cheers

@philkennedy342 5 месяцев назад

Nice smooth and really stable flying machine impressive 👍👍👍

@Rchelicopterfun 5 месяцев назад

Thanks for watching 🙂

@raymondhall8629 Год назад

Well done John 👍

@Rchelicopterfun Год назад

🙂

@jordandotan Год назад

Duuuude!! That's awesome. Thanks for sharing :)

@Rchelicopterfun Год назад

Glad you liked it

@oceanchaser 10 месяцев назад

Hi john. you are very helpful indeed this built is amazing. I have learned a lot from watching you, well done job . Jim

@Rchelicopterfun 9 месяцев назад

Glad it was helpful

@jimspenser1258 Год назад

Your video is awesome!

@Rchelicopterfun Год назад

🙂

@dallas1179 Год назад

Yabba Dabba Doo!! Nice work John! She’s super smooth. No wonder that fenestron has to spin so fast, it looks tiny compared to a standard size tail rotor.

@Rchelicopterfun Год назад

Thanks & yes on the tail blades, they are about the same size as a 450's tail blades (in length anyway).

@davestewart9146 Год назад

This is so cool, thanks 👍😁

@Rchelicopterfun Год назад

Glad you like it 🙂

@bluecavemen 2 месяца назад

I didn't realize there so much thats goes into flying helicopter calibration

@markrice23 Год назад

Looking good 👍

@Rchelicopterfun Год назад

Thanks for the visit

@rcaddictions7385 7 месяцев назад

Great video! what are you using for cyclick numbers? -3 to +10 on the collective and +/- 8 on cyclick?? Thanks

@oceanchaser 10 месяцев назад

Hi john I am going to make the pre flight set up. like what you did your flintstone flyer great idea, make everything is good working great before placing into scale body.

@cjb405 Год назад

Great vids i always learn something new! By my calcs that fenestron will get up to around 14,400rpm when at max head speeds! Looking forward to seeing the body on.👍

@Rchelicopterfun Год назад

Yep, I get the same # 👍

@alcan466 Год назад

Thnx much! 👍

@oceanchaser 9 месяцев назад

Hi john, it sounds like what you have shared tells me a lot it's a fine radio. Especially since you are, still using it. That says a lot with all your experience over the years, you have with radio-controlled equipment sounds like it has had nothing but improvements over the years. Thanks for your input. Jim

@Rchelicopterfun 9 месяцев назад

The Horus was a good radio in its day, but there are better FrSky options IMO these days such as the Tandem series if upper display is a selling feature; unfortunately no Open/Edge TX operating system on any of them anymore (including the Horus) and that is one reason I haven't changed to the Tandem. I have way to much time invested in OpenTX. The primary reason however I still use the Horus with all my big aircraft is way more basic and fundamental. As you likely know, it's a huge pain in the arse that requires a large time investment and learning curve when switching radio brands and then reconfiguring and setting up all your aircraft. When I switched from JR to FrSky it was pretty much a year long time frame and not what I would call an enjoyable one. First learning OpenTX and then slowly picking away at a couple aircraft every month in my spare time. I certainly don't want to go through that long process again any time soon. Not to mention not fully trusting *any new radio* until it has given many bullet proof flights. I didn't trust the Horus for at least 6 months but it has proven itself reliable in thousands of flights now. 🙂

@oceanchaser 9 месяцев назад

Very good review , I don't blame you I can't stand having to relearn another radio system. .

@oceanchaser 9 месяцев назад

Hi John what blade pitch gauge do you use. The blades i will be using will be flat blades. which are the type that come with the 800 size hughes MD500 helicopter

@matafi55 11 месяцев назад

Great Video and very nice Wagner Music in the background (flying dutchman i presume). I just got a ec135 Air Zermatt. Ordered the Fenestron Upgrade and can´t get the Fenestron apart.

@chrisball6900 Год назад

EGODRIFT motors are fantastic.

@Rchelicopterfun Год назад

👍

@fusionsvt00 Год назад

I have always perfered torque tube driven tail vs belt.

@Rchelicopterfun Год назад

👍

@Beef424 Год назад

Hi John really enjoy your content. I just started seriously flying helicopters last summer. I decided scale is more my style then 3d flying. I was trying to order a Funkey fuselage from Jet tech models but was unable to make the purchase. It looks like they do not ship to the US. Do you know of any way of purchasing one of these models in the states?

@Rchelicopterfun Год назад

No idea I'm afraid. Since the pandemic, shipping logistics/regulations/and sky rocketing costs have really messed things up - I can't even bring in the 600ESP Phoenixtech kits to Canada I used to sell for 600 size scale projects anymore. I hope things return to normal and JetTech start shipping worldwide again, but who knows???

@larrychamel Год назад

Every tool has a purpose and you have the Right Tool for Every Job! Incredible John. Always great to watch you build and your workarounds are top notch! Fantastic job Threading the parts that needed it, John! Does Roban give an excuse as to why they didn't Thread those specific areas? Why did you go with the Castle over the Hobbywing ESC? Well Done my friend and as always, I hope you you & the Family are all Safe and Healthy! Take care and talk again soon John!

@Rchelicopterfun Год назад

Thanks Larry. This is not the first kit I've seen with minor issues like that, and I'm sure it won't be the last. No real excuse necessary over and above 'shite happens' as the world is far from perfect. Moreover, Covid has increased QC issues like this from many manufacturers by an order of magnitude if not more. You're call if that's due to workplace stress or just using the pandemic as a convenient excuse - I think it's both - but that's just my opinion. I explained what I like about Castle Edge ESC's in the component selection video - primarily the indispensable data logging. I would be lost without that valuable post flight data analysis on a large scale heli; but the other simple reasons are I'm very comfortable & familiar with Castle's Edge ESC's, have been using them for over a decade now, have never had a single issue with one, and I can almost program them in my sleep 🙂

@1983dmd Год назад

@@Rchelicopterfun Totally agree with your conclusion on QC !!! Everywhere, companies have to hire inexperienced/unmotivated employees because of labor shortages nowadays...And this is the result....Have you gone to your car garage lately ? Try not to....I prefer to fix things myself if I can....Superb video as always. So interesting. I am almost finished reading your ebook heli intro I ordered a few weeks ago. Excellent reading, well written !!!

@Rchelicopterfun Год назад

@1983dmd - Yep, I hear ya about labor shortage and the under-skilled/unmotivated workforce - it's a big problem. Like you, I do all my own vehicle repairs since that is my primary background & training, but even doing it yourself, trying to find parts is getting to be impossible. That or have the parts shop actually order/deliver the right part/s in and hope they are not damaged or missing something upon arrival. It's a mess! I'm so glad I'm no longer a service manager these days. Finding good techs a decade ago was next to impossible, I can't even imagine what it would be like today with the labor shortage of skilled trades people coupled with this sense of entitlement so many of them have.

@larrychamel Год назад

@@Rchelicopterfun Once again John, everything you said makes perfect sense! I've never run a Castle ESC., basically the data logging is not available on the H.W. unless you are running a Telemetry module, then you get everything. Good to know, if & when I decide to blow my brains out and drop a small fortune on a Scale Heli. lol. I'm so happy that You have never had a problem with them, I've heard many burst into flames but that's almost always on hard 3D. Incredible Build, as always... I can't wait for the Body to go on but I Love your "Flintstone Flyer," landing gear and mock up body! Always the Leader, John! Thanks again my friend.

@ronnydewailly7045 6 месяцев назад

What timing were you satisfied with on the ecodrift? recommends start at 6 but tends to run hot. Great videos by the way. 👍

@Rchelicopterfun 6 месяцев назад

Set it low (Castle's value 0)

@alcan466 Год назад

Great! I will try that in my next setup. I will be using a Demon 3x with the X8R. Do you happen to know if that setup will also work for a Futaba rx? That’s what I’m working on now. Demon 3X with Futaba R3008SB rx.

@Rchelicopterfun Год назад

I have no experience with the R3008SB.

@blooskyy7 3 месяца назад

Awesome. Been following your channel for years and your earlier videos really helped me get started. I'm interested to know if you have you used Rotorflight, just finished converting an old Trex450 to RF2 and it's amazing.

@Rchelicopterfun 3 месяца назад

Thanks for watching. No experience with RF.

@paullester59 Год назад

I wish there was more detail in the build and set up. Having issues with mine.

@alcan466 Год назад

Hey John, I looked over the video trying to figure out how you wired your rx battery onto the system. I’m sure it’s pretty simple, I just couldn’t see the connection. I’m familiar with plugging it into the rx. 🤷‍♂️

@Rchelicopterfun Год назад

It's dependent on your specific FBL system and RX. In my specific setup with a Bavarian Demon and X8R RX, the power is fed to the Bavarian Demon first (so the servo power bus is well juiced) and the RX then gets its power from the Bavarian Demon power bus via the single s-bus harness. In other words, I followed the Bavarian Demon connectivity schematic in the instructions. 🙂

@siholley 10 месяцев назад

Hey John, what skid set have you used on your Flintstone Flyer test rig please?

@Rchelicopterfun 10 месяцев назад

I honestly can't recall what they came off, I just looked for the large set I had in my parts bin. If I had to guess, perhaps an X-Cell 60 or Bergen Intrepid.

@siholley Год назад

John, this video is excellent, thank you. I am about to do my first scale build with a Roban 800 UH-1D and this video has been excellent for me. One question, I am planning to use an Ikon 2 fbl but I see many people in scale use the Bavarian fbl. Should I be considering that instead or will the Ikon be fine?

@Rchelicopterfun Год назад

@siholley - When it comes to FBL system recommendations, my advice is always the same; "stick with what you know & are happy with." As I mention on my Best FBL page on my website' "The thee FFF's - Features, Feel & most important FAMILIARITY" are king! I chose the BD 3X because I've personally been flying all my large machines for almost a decade now exclusively with them. I like the 3X's features, I love the feel of it on big heavy birds and I'm very familiar with it. Never once has one of them ever it let me down, even in my one turbine powered machine. Perhaps one reason so many use the BD 3X in heavy scale heli applications is the excellent elevator (pitch axis) filtering algorithm to deal the heavy mass & inertia on all large scale machines along the pitch axis to eliminate proposing and bob along with a very good delay algorithm to eliminate ballooning. The real time tuning features helps with this as well. Of course most good FBL system can handle all that as will with dedicated integral and derivative gain adjustment, but the 3X makes it fairly straight forward; as straight forward as FBL tuning can be anyway - lol. However, to restate what I stared with; IMO it's better to use what you are intimately familiar with over introducing and learning an unknown system.

@siholley Год назад

@@Rchelicopterfun Wow thank you so much John for clearing that up and setting my mind straight on it. I really appreciate your advice. Thank you

@alcan466 Год назад

Great job! I enjoy all the info you provided on the build. I was wondering if you can provide info on your “Flinstone flyer”? It seems pretty straightforward just wondering if there was anything to keep in mind when putting it together. Thnx

@Rchelicopterfun Год назад

Nothing over and above building it so the frame mounts to it level, sits high enough so the tail rotor doesn't become a lawn trencher, CG is on the mark and that it's sturdy enough to carry the weight.

@alcan466 Год назад

@@Rchelicopterfun Great! The materials appears to be a couple of pieces of 2x4 and 1x6? As for keeping the frame level, I see you places a couple of washers in under the front frame to level it out?

@Rchelicopterfun Год назад

1x4. Yes, used spacers to get the frame/boom level.

@Zeaiclies Год назад

Getting the egg beater in the air 😂🤣😎❤️❤️

@nazar5489 Год назад

Hi, is the linkage on the elevator arm that's connected to the swashplate turned all the way in or is it also adjusted some bit? Thanks.

@Rchelicopterfun Год назад

Start with it all the way in and adjust if required for swash leveling although the pitch & roll pushrods at the front should allow for mechanical leveling on their own if your bell crank geometry is textbook.

@nazar5489 Год назад

@@Rchelicopterfun Got it! Great video, very helpful.

@oceanchaser 9 месяцев назад

Hi john i am close to wanting to buy the same radio you have for multiple reasons it's easy to understand compared to many others i have looked at . Second it has a top view on radio, so i can see it clearly while I'm flying for a quick glance if needed. Third it's been out for a long time there's a lot of videos of you, and others working, on it updating it or replacing batteries, and videos of programming , that should help me a lot. Question : i have seen some people say they are having problems binding the radio to a X8R 8 channel receiver, is this a problem did you ever have any problems with that? many thanks Jim

@Rchelicopterfun 9 месяцев назад

No idea on any RF issues with the *current* Horus as it's running a completely different operating system (Ethos) along with several newer versions of RF software over the first gen ones like what I have. Completely different radio now than what I have in terms of firmware and software. The very first RF software in the Horus had a bug that caused phantom failsafe activations (I think with all RX's not just the X8R). Never ran that first version myself as it had already been updated when I got mine. I've never had any RF issues with the X8R's and I'm running I believe eight currently, but my anecdotal experiences are exactly that.

@theviperman3 Год назад

at 15:35 is that tail rotor creating enough thrust it appears the tail boom is bending !???!?!

@RCPMK Год назад

very nice. I see the helical main gear is standard

@Rchelicopterfun Год назад

Yep, That was one of 3 updates/improvements Roban made to the HSM mechanics back in 2019. The other two were: New bell-cranks with shorter output throw to get better resolution out of the FBL system. Different main blade 'S' design for improved lift efficiency and they moved the center of mass out on the blades to improve disc stability.

@ssgfury Год назад

Hey John, looks great! I'm currently working on a EC 135- question on your tail, did you pre load any right rudder at all? I'm using a MKS X8 HBL380... should be plenty up to the job... but it's getting warmer than I would like. Also what trick did you use to get the clamp to align from the inside/outside on the boom?

@Rchelicopterfun Год назад

@SFC FURY Not sure which way the main rotor rotates on the 135; on this 130 however, it rotates CW meaning tail rotor has to thrust left (pull the boom left) to counter the CCW torque. In other words, tail rotor has to hold in left thrust, not right. Anyway, with the pitch slider/pitch arm centered on the fenestron (at list with this one) it was already holding in several degrees of left thrust and in a hover by looking closely at the tail servo arm, it was also remaining fairly centered so Roban had the fenestron pretty well setup in terms of pitch geometry (again, that is anecdotal with a sample size of one). If I understand your question about the tail servo mounting and how I found a position that both lined up with the pushrod while not interfering with the inside of the fuselage while also not interfering with the carbon boom struts... no trick over & above about an hour of messing with it until I found the one position out of the several I tried where it worked well. 🙂 Yep, I suspect that HBL380 will be a very good matching. 👍 I was thinking 550 or so oz/in was overkill, but not after these test flights. This KST X20-3612 rated at 555 oz/in (about the same as the HBL380) gets slightly warm during the test flights. Not too warm, but certainly working. Now I appreciate why Roban recommends such high torque tail servos on these things. Almost starting to question if the plastic ball links up up to the job???

@ssgfury Год назад

@@Rchelicopterfun John, thanks for the quick reply. Yes the 135 is CCW, not CW (and going back and looking at your video you're sure enough CW lol). I'm 4 blades as well... I think I am going to settle in around 1100 to 1150 on the rpm. There does seem to be some right rudder built in at center position which is kind of hard to judge what's center on it. After a five minute flight, of mostly HIGE, the tail servo was about 115F... and that was with ambient temp ~75F... so I just want to see if I can help it out with a lil more preloaded right rudder. Did you try yours in rate mode at all? Still settling in on the gains as well. (I'm using Beastx by the way). Actually, my question wasn't in reference to the servo/servo mounting; I was referring to that 4 piece clamp that on the boom the keeps the boom secured in place/aligne- two pieces the go on the inside of the tail fuselage, and two pieces on the outside that clamp it all together.

@Rchelicopterfun Год назад

@SFC FURY. Never tried in rate mode. Not sure if I will? I fly everything in heading lock these days and have re-learned that feel, even on the big scale stuff. So it's the rear fuselage boom clamp (one with the profiled outer & inner plates that sandwich the fuselage tail boom/duct). That was fairly easy if that's the clamp you're referencing? I just slid it on the tail end of the aluminum boom (perhaps 1/2 an inch) with the two clamping screws loose so it could slide forward as I was sliding the fiberglass scale boom on. I lined up the three holes with an awl before fitting the outer plate. Made sure the fenestron was centered and then tightened the two clamping bolts through the two holes in the side of the fuselage boom when I was happy with the position. It hasn't moved from that location on the boom since.

@ssgfury Год назад

@@Rchelicopterfun Yea I don't really fly in rate mode- but I do like to test my base setup's with it set to fly in rate mode in a hover with minimal drift as possible... I feel like that keeps the stress/work on the tail servo to a minimum.... with so limited throw on the fenestron tho, that I might not do it lol (but the heat of the servo is what's on my mind). Yes that's the clamp I am referring to- I figured that's what you did... but the screw heads won't fit thru the predrilled holes... which won't be nothing to widen a bit (I mean at this point I feel like the Roban kits should come with a dremel tool lol)... but I figured the bolt heads would have fit. Thank you for your input as always!!

@Rchelicopterfun Год назад

@SFC FURY Re. tail servo temp. I'm sure you already checked this, but how tight are your tail pushrod links on the balls? Mine were really tight and I know tight ball links can cause a tail servo to run hot; at least the lower torque super fast ones. Not sure if the same applies to these high torque monsters? Likely not, but I did size mine before the test flights to loosen them a bit in the off chance it would help. Yep, not sure what I would do with any scale heli build without a rotary tool at the ready. 🙂👍 My goto building solution is make holes larger or use a bigger hammer (often both).

@OYEUAV 8 месяцев назад

Good work done sir... Please I need some building help

@oceanchaser 9 месяцев назад

Hi John this is the one i got. Does yours have something that says module mode 2 because mine does is this because of a newer model ? FrSky Horus X12s 16 Channels Transmitter Inbuilt GPS Module Mode2 (Texture)

@Rchelicopterfun 9 месяцев назад

Mode 2 is stick layout. Other than that, I don't know how or if FrSky has give the Horus a new model ID with the version that now runs ETHOS.

@oceanchaser 9 месяцев назад

Hi John, the front of your home is Gorgeous nice grass lawn. question: on the Demon X3 if im correct it's a flybarless control unit but also it's the primary control of keeping the tail stable also is this correct. Also placing the 3 different head speeds you did. Was that done in the radio, or was that done in the Demon x3. I will be doing that also in my 800size hughes 500 thanks Jim

@Rchelicopterfun 9 месяцев назад

All flybarless systems include the tail gyro. Governor function on mine is in the ESC; selected with three different throttle curves via radio programming.

@oceanchaser 9 месяцев назад

Thank you that is very helpful indeed.

@mattstabner4434 Месяц назад

can you please explan how you mounted motor. the motor has a 25mm x 30mm mounts. how did it fit the motor mount. its for 30mm x 30mm

@Rchelicopterfun Месяц назад

The motor I used on mine (Ego Drift Scale 4035HS 460kv) which is specifically for the Roban HSM Mechanics has all 4 holes spaced at 30mm. www.egodrift.com/scale-collection-4035hs-460.html

@memememe2674 Год назад

Looking great John, when in the air it gives a real impression of weight if you get my meaning? Can I ask a question regards EFBL, I am a novice, with all the stability aids etc when setting up should the swash be level at rest with no power? Mine is not, a omp m1 and the shop told me that's correct it's a trait of stability mode. Others have told me that's rubbish. But the guys telling me both views I have not seen them fly or set up! I have you

@Rchelicopterfun Год назад

@Meme Meme When setting up any collective pitch RC helicopter with electronic stabilization, the stabilization system has to be in *setup mode* (gyros not active) so you can properly level & setup your swashplate, set your collective & cyclic pitch ranges. Otherwise as you know, the swash will be moving the entire time due to gyro feedback. All covered in my swash eBook: www.rchelicopterfun.com/swashplate-setup.html OMP's FBL system by the way has the gyros tuned off automatically until it sees some throttle signal and then they turn on for the duration of the power cycle; so to properly setup any OMP system, you have ensure throttle output is set to zero in whatever flight mode you are setting it up in.

@memememe2674 Год назад

@@Rchelicopterfun is the model shops view that the swash should tilt to the left at rest on level ground because of stability system and this goes away under throttle correct do you think, been looking at lots of fbl bids and non do this but these are not rx combo like omp

@Rchelicopterfun Год назад

@Meme Meme When the gyros are active they can tilt the swash in any direction when the heli is on the ground (not just left - that is BS) the gyros are in a feedback loop so as the error rates build if the heli is not absolutely perfectly level - the servos can and usually will drift off center. Also depends on the delay/decay/filtering algorithms for the FBL system, but that is not adjustable on a little OMP system. The only way to know if it's working correctly is to fly it; you can't rely on swash behavior while the gyros are active and the heli is sitting on the ground: www.rchelicopterfun.com/pid-basics.html

@robertlunatic 5 месяцев назад

Did you have to change cyclic phasing?

@Rchelicopterfun 5 месяцев назад

No, the DFC arms on the blade grips along with the upper swash ball placements create the 90 degree shift.

@oceanchaser 10 месяцев назад

Hi john, your suggestion are needed so i can buy the correct flybarless demon. I was told from emotion RC, since they know i don't do 3D the demon AXON is really made for that they told me. I like cruising around slow and carefully . About the Demon x3 if the head gyro is programmed correctly they said i can have the helicopter have a more stable level flight

@Rchelicopterfun 10 месяцев назад

That is totally up to you and your skill level. If you don't fly your collective pitch helis already with self level, then there is no reason to get it or use it. I personally can't stand self level stabilization! It's not what the collective pitch flying experience is about and it makes a helicopter look robotic / artificial. You will never get a scale heli to mimic what full size ones do with self level stabilization enabled. Totally takes the fluid behavior away. Again it's up to you and your skill level. Of course nothing about large scale collective pitch is beginner level. They are for advanced hobbyists'.

@andyschulze8854 3 месяца назад

What about setup of the Servo center at the Fenestron?

@Rchelicopterfun 3 месяца назад

Follow the manual, i.e. pitch slider centered while servo at neutral position & servo horn at 90 degrees to boom - just like any other tail servo setup.

@andyschulze8854 3 месяца назад

@@Rchelicopterfun Horn 90 to the Boom and Servo Neutral that`s all i need :-) Thanks !

@mikeclabaugh1548 Год назад

Can you send me a diagram of your Demon 3X and receiver cable setup. Building an 800 Roban Airwolf. Little confusing.

@Rchelicopterfun Год назад

I run a single 3 conductor S-Bus cable into the S-Bus port on my RX. That's as simple as RX connectivity gets. All Different RX connectivity types (standard RX, S-BUS, DSM) are well illustrated in the Bavarian Demon setup wizard.

@mikeclabaugh1548 Год назад

@@Rchelicopterfun thanks.