Love this review Aaron! You're very calm and funny which really helps the enjoyability of usually bland product videos! Keep creating awesome content for us DJs man!
Yo yo yo! I just learned by watching Jani that RCF recommends cranking the main volume knob on back of speaker all the way. That’s how I’m running my J8’s. Cheers
The Everse 8 as a satellite is a major key! There's a venue that I play at that you really have to have it because you're basically in another room when you're DJing. It worked flawlessly. I'm definitely jealous that you have those! I'll hear them in a week and a half and I'm sure my wallet will get smaller and my evolve 50s will be sold.
Even in mid sized rooms, I like having that fill speaker to just get the coverage so you sound good. People notice when the sound is shit. I love emptying DJs wallets lol, I just don't get a penny!
Great video ! In a empty room yes they’ll sound super loud when you have a crowd on the dancefloor you will find yourself pushin those 808s as I have. The tops are amazing and shit on my evolve 50s but I still need to do a bass comparison. When you mentioned the tops and getting them up high I suggest the Gravity TSP 2332 B. They’re fairly new and amazing quick concept.
I'm just using the poles that came with the J8s. I like that they split, easier to transport, BUT I like the idea of an easier pole. I'll check those out!
Bro If you ever decide not to be a DJ. A comedian may be your calling. You are funny as hell. I always get a good laugh when watching your videos and you don’t bull sh!t on the products.
Those are dope and honestly the only speaker I've been curious about in 2 years. I'm just skeptical of the bass, my gut says it'll be represented but just more one dimensional with no real throw for that bump. There is no replacement for displacement lol
Looks like a very compact and tidy setup, I'll probably use them for small to pushing onto medium size venue. Be interesting how they pan out on your wedding.
I bought a single TT515. Keeping it! Not happy, had to pay $100 for that little speaker pole adapter! The TT515 has incredible sound that is more Studio Monitor than PA! Best I have heard! The problem is there is a serious lack of midrange. Wondering if it will get fatiguing for a long wedding gig? 400 people will really be interesting? Besides the Hi-fi sound I don't see an upgrade from your J8 besides the much better bass. J8 128dB/TT515 127 dB J8 120 degree throw/TT515 100 degrees. I was able to clip- just red starting to show, the single TT515 at about 110dB. Really depends on the music playing. I would pack a single Pro32/Sub2 just in case:)
I agree. The real test is coming up at a real gig. Can these handle a room with lots of guests. I never felt let down by my J8s and I don't believe these will (crossing fingers)
I was just about to type this but you beat me to it lol. Speakers always sound much louder in a big empty room, but as soon as that room starts filling up with people, the volume starts decreasing big time.
This set is basically for those who need super compact high end PA. Personally I couldn't think of a viable use case unless in some superyacht event or whatever, but maybe other people do. I have a pair of RCF TT 10-A tops and they are phenomenal.
I run a pair each of QSC K10.2 tops and KS118 subs for about 275 lbs total. But it's worth every ounce for me once they're fired up. I've not clipped any of them yet after nearly a year, even at outdoor wedding a couple weeks ago. Really fills up big, tall rooms. I'm 50 years old this May, but I roll these things and set them up anywhere. The footprint is actually not that bad considering what it is...less space than stands. Love the Aaron Neville...dude is one of my favorites. These specific RCF's are really interesting...
I know those are killing it for you, stick with it baby! When I take the Sub 2s out, I always put them from the car right to the rock n roller. BUT..I could not pass up the size and sound of these.
Great video dude! 1. Loudness, I always try to reach 90-95 db in the center of the dancefloor, I carry a dB meter. This also allows people to speak in the back still. 2. Never heard about the TouchMix before, is it good? Do you still need a PA2 or similar to manage the PA? 3. Do you delay the speaker in the room? Ideally you should point it backward where its below -10-15 db from the front, and it should be delayed to match the distance, so the audio reaches the ear at the same time, if you didnt already ofc, not mentioned here
I love the touchmix. Has features that I use at every event (wifi app, anti feedback). Another DJ friend recently reminded me about delay. I used that at my recent wedding with the Everse 8
But how do they sound when the room is packed with dancing guests? In a room that’s completely empty, my PRX-One sound just as crisp and loud. Fill the room with guests and suddenly your SPLs drop like a stone off a cliff.
@@chadnliz2k11 The prx one is mathematically more output! However, the build quality is better on rcf! The disadvantage is physics no speaker company has broken the fundamentals and prx one output drops because the column height isn’t high enough or adjustable which is why a packed dance floor will eat up the volume before you get to the back of the room and plastic bass cab has flex so it does lose some efficiency as volume goes up!
remember when the room is filled with poeple, Human bodies absorb sound thats why when you sound check when no one is there its always loud but when people fill the venue, your sound is quite and not as loud as before.
For me the great question is that subs sound better and louder of my Qsc ks112? I am in the same situation looking great sound, but portability is number one. I don't need 125 db for clients. Waiting for next video. Thanks for investing 10.000 Dollars ❤
These things sound amazing and the size! Wow! I think the hardest thing for me to fathom is the price because I have Bose F1system ( a left and right set and those 2 subs cost as much as my 4 speakers ( Bose F1system) and they have no problem getting 120db Nd staying clean and clear. I know that those are a little smaller to carry but the F1s are pretty easy to because the sub comes with the stand that holds the top and is designed for wire management. Have you ever tried the Bose F1s?
I've heard that the portability is a big piece of the price tag. Getting this kind of sound out of such small speakers. It wont be rattlin grandpa's teeth out of his head lol. I did once at a Bose store. They sounded great but were too goddam heavy for me
@Aaron Strawn I totally understand that. LOL those RCFs are really top-notch. But I guess I will have to stay in shape as long as I can so I can carry them around. LOL 🤣 I will say when stereo is not necessary, 1 set of them do a great job, but yes, sometimes we want grandpa to lose his teeth 😄 😜. But I will definitely be following you on these because I am very impressed with the power and the footprint. I appreciate your reviews. You are one of the best reviewers and definitely one of the most entertaining. I think we would get in trouble if we lived close to each other. LOL 🤣
Say hey, bro! Nice video. I like the way you come off. Odd question for ya. Would you have anything to say to an acoustic guitarist who sings, along with an electronic drum machine? Been using QSC K12s for the longest time and want the look and feel of an array just like you were saying. Been hawking the DB Technologies Es1203 and now I see this system. You're the first demo I've looked at. Would you know how an acoustic guitar would sound through this? Going for that warm rich Neil Young kinda acoustic that impresses and WOWS EVERYBODY. I sing through a Telefunken M81 dynamic, incredible mic! Good luck with your new system!!! Best wishes, Edward
Dude, I think you would sound amazing through this system. One thing I love to play through them is acoustic songs. Depending on the venues you play, you might be able to get a less expensive system like the EV 50 or the RCF JMix8's.
Great video, This combo is worth upgrade from rcf j12,j8,bose or ev50 ? My question is the kind of money 💰 in the investment. I think is perfect for small venue in my case. I use j8 and qsc k8.2 and qsc ks112. I don't louder if same I am ok, just looking portability. Waiting for the next one video.
I think if you want to have a top and sub and not go the column route, the size and power is worth it. I'll definitely have more of an opinion once I gig a bunch with them. For sure I will make videos!
@@AaronStrawn and it think a full room of people affects bass frequencies more than high frequencies, so you might want to give a litter more bass then. But I do more bars and clubs than weddings to be honest.
Might be a stupid question, but I’ll ask anyway… how do these compare to the J8s? Looking to upgrade my system to another system that’s portable and these have really caught my attention. I was thinking maybe 2x 808s per side with the 505s. Thanks in advance.
If you're a mobile dj, don't get these. I sold them. Didn't live up to my expectations. If you want portable- the J8s are amazing. Sound great, loud, easy to use.
@@AaronStrawn thanks for responding, I’ve had the J8s for a couple years now, but need something for bigger settings. I guess I’ll keep them and get a pair of 905 subs and some 910-12 NX or Art tops.
@@AaronStrawn yeah after watching other videos it seems like the TT series is great if you have money to blow, and want the sound quality. But for the same amount of money you can do a lot more. Thanks again.
Do they have enough Bass? I read they just have 8 inch subs, so this might be a problem. Also I think the J8 look a lot better, especially in white and have the possiblity to put them into each other and then into those rolling-cases.
For me they do. I thought they punched more than the J8 and came close to the Sub 2. It's the size for me that made me pull the trigger. Wish they had them in stores so you guys could hear them
I guess you’re liking these new TT‘s but I have a question, did you notice a difference in sound when you ran your Bose l1 pro 32’s Sub 2’s with the tone match mixer?
Hey Aaron! Was that SPL measurement A weighted? I’m guessing yes? I hardly ever go out of high 90’s A weighted. C weighted SPL is around 10-12 dB higher for me.
Can you try these with some "regular" subs? I have two relatively new 15" subs, but my top cabinets are getting older. I think a lot more DJs would buy the tops if they knew they could use them with what they already have. Convincing people to spend that much money for a whole new system is hard, but then trying to convince them 8" subs are sufficient... almost impossible.
Definitley. For fun I might hook them up to my Sub 2s just to hear it. I think the real magic is the 515 top. Having something that small and be so powerful is amazing. I opted for the 808 because of the size, look and I knew they were made for each other..in fact, I can't keep the 515s hands out of the 808s pants
I went with the tts15 subs with the 515 tops and wow they rock! I was worried about the low bass (808) not being enough. (4) 808 with (2) 515 would be great but super expensive.
If you want deep loud bass, anything smaller than an 18" sub will let you down imo. I lean towards good sound and portability with doing over 60 events a year. I'm happy with the 808s. When I stack them with one 515 I'd say they def give you solid bass
This is a nice system, and I’m not hating, everyone has their own preference to sound. But I’m curious what a system like this has, advantage wise, over a simple pair of single 15s or nice 12s. Say a pair of k12 qsc or jbl prx815/812.
Size and weight. For the mobile DJ, having such a compact system with the sound comparison of tops and subs I think is a big advantage. Especially for my small ass lol
May be a dumb question but how do you power on these speakers with no switch ? Do you just plug them in when you're ready or what ? I like to power up my speakers last which means having a separate outlet strip for them or what ? Any helpful info would be appreciated. Thx
This is a topic I’ve always wanted to know. How are you supposed to keep your speakers from clipping when some songs are more bass heavy and different frequencies! Without having to constantly look at the back of a speaker and adjust…….
I make the adjustment on the controller. If I'm clipping, I'll drop the gain down on the channel the song is on. Thats what I use the led lights for too- trying to match gains with the next mix so you don't blow peoples ears out when you drop Abba
This is why you don't buy tiny collumn speakers without any headroom. Choose speakers which go so loud that when you stand in front of them it's unbearable, guests will complain long before you hit clip. Or blow up some speakers first and you will realise this eventually!
I don't know yet. I love the J8s. They have been amazing for me. This system is a pretty big upgrade from them in sound and size. I wanted something like the Evox 12 but not that size.
Is the 808 power enough to handle rcf Art 745”s instead of getting 8003 or 8004 or qsc ks118 i want the best possible compact sub for ideql transportation
1st i would place the subs long side so no dude knocks em over i know they have feet but i think they'd also sound a little better (more wood to ground) also i don't think i would trust the crowd with a speaker on the other side of the room they'd fiddle with the back settings & spin it around when they want to have a conversation believe me i've seen this happen quite a few times , also í've never needed this with my ULT 10's they cut through right to the back of any room i've done.
Bro..I would loose it if I saw people screwing around with my speakers lol. That's crazy! For sure the downside to columns is you are giving up volume for portability
@@AaronStrawn Not my main point but yes also agree with you on the fact that small speakers packed in a narrow column won’t have the punch of a good 10 or 12 inch point source but my main point is that I would not use these at a rowdy function , there’s no real advantage in using these portable column arrays other than having no cables and simple mount on top each other, if I had to I’d rather a column that mounts onto a pole so that it can both be height adjusted and turned on an angle for smaller venues in this case as a musician there would be no need for fold back.
good review appreciate an actually measurement most people don't do that! now why going over 110 well that is very easy, measure at room full 100 people talking loudly a you may get about 90 db or more. now your measurement at the speaker is let say 110. standard point source box drops 6db every doubling of distance. so at 1 foot your at 110, 2 feet its 104, 4 feet 98, 8 feet 92 and so on! so on a 20 by 20 dane floor at the back of the dance your lucky to be at less than 90db! and that's a empty room. now add bodies that are in front of the speakers and high frequencies are absorbed. sub frequency not so much!. also distance isn't 2 demential so trim height of the tops play a roll! so in the room that your in the ideal situation would be having your speakers higher which then mean you can play louder but you've also increased the distance to the front of the dance floor (greater spl drop) more than at the back( less spL drop) of the dance floor thus creating more balance with just mains. so you maybe have your tops 120 db but a combination of height will have your speakers at 110 at the front of your dance floor and over 95 at the back meaning everyone hears music loud and no need for satellites and people who wanna chat are in the back of room and that drop off is enough for them. also height Is good to use when they put grandma up front except for subs not much your can do unless you wanna playing distance and sub arrays etc. which naw im good. also spl is not frequency specific high spl at 4k isn't the same as high spa at say 500hz which is very common in column arrays they lack those mid frequencies. it why a lot of column arrays you can't speak on the mic while playing loud your voice almost is lost cause your voice frequencies are lower due to the speakers frequency response. sorry if that doesn't make a lot of sense but check Michael Curtis here on YT he specialized in audio and his courses really help you understand sound design and how things work together.
@@AaronStrawn I use the SKAA pro audio system on my live DJ sets with multiple wireless column arrays / powered subs / tops in different areas with no drop out or static. Works 100x better than the Xvive or any wireless transmitter.
Soooo.....spend $10K now or have bad surgery later. Hmmmmm...... Maybe one day. This really speaks to a lot of OG Bose customers (commercial and residential) who went with their products due to powerful sound in a small form. I agree that specs/numbers only matter so much. I'm in the Apple ecosystem and have had to fight those battles for years lol.
I think most if not all the column systems do the job we need. When I first started, I had the original Bose L1 system (just one!) and rocked so many weddings. Now my decision is based on my preference. I love the RCF sound and wanted an upgrade to the J8s. These are it
To do a real legitimate test, you have to test in a real actual environment. Your sound and demands will be entirely different when the room is full of people absorbing sound. Of course, in an empty room the sound may appear to be loud. It all depends how many people are in the room and the size of the room you are playing in. One sock does not fit all
