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Re-Engining Old Aircraft: Can It Be Done? Should It Be Done? 

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There are a handful of reasons we don’t see old airframes upgraded with new engines more often. However, such a practice HAS been done before on several occasions.
So for today’s video, let’s look at a few cases where re-engining has taken place, but also look at why it doesn’t really happen these days!
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@AnotherPointOfView944
@AnotherPointOfView944 5 часов назад
Re-engine the Wright Bros "Wright Flyer" with a couple of CFM56s.
@svrsakura
@svrsakura 4 часа назад
The engines would fly further than the flyer 🤣
@fra93ilgrande
@fra93ilgrande 3 минуты назад
Lol 🤣🔥🛩️🔝
@Renilopillow
@Renilopillow 5 часов назад
If i were to re-engine an aircraft, i would re-engine the 757. The pencil need justice
@rodrigogoncalves6165
@rodrigogoncalves6165 3 часа назад
You forgot the re engining of the B52s with Rolls Royce engines
@aviation259
@aviation259 Час назад
I hope the next topic will be discussing about adding winglet to an aircraft and its development
@jdf1stats
@jdf1stats 4 часа назад
I saw your video on reengining the 757, I really think it could work! Actually, I'm gonna watch it again! 😁
@taylorham4life
@taylorham4life 2 часа назад
Would love to see FEDEX/UPS start the trend.
@wrichikbiswas
@wrichikbiswas 5 часов назад
I'd like to see the A380 get the GE9X (777X) engines. If it's being phased out for cost reasons, new engines may be able to keep it in the air for a while longer.
@rafaelwilks
@rafaelwilks 4 часа назад
For optimum fuel efficiency for the 72K pound thrust range, a custom-designed derivative would be pretty awesome - GE could call it the GE8X 😎
@nerd2814
@nerd2814 3 часа назад
​@@rafaelwilks I think a downscaled Trent XWB would suffice
@HesJustSteven
@HesJustSteven 3 часа назад
They would rip themselves off the wings, too powerful. The A380 actually is already the most powerful passenger jet out there.
@HesJustSteven
@HesJustSteven 3 часа назад
@@rafaelwilksif only GE went all in but I doubt they had so much interest in the A380 programme hence collabing with PW to make the GP7000
@Tpr_1808
@Tpr_1808 Час назад
​@HesJustSteven they couldn't use GE90 or Genx derivatives because they had exclusive contracts with Boeing. So it would cost more to make something different
@jeromes5141
@jeromes5141 4 часа назад
NEO on the A340 would be great.
@mirzaahmed6589
@mirzaahmed6589 30 минут назад
No, that's pointless. No one is flying four engine aircraft any longer.
@sgdemobushunter7394
@sgdemobushunter7394 26 минут назад
The a350 has already replaced the a340
@jamesx4952
@jamesx4952 4 часа назад
I’d love to see the Trent XWB on the A340
@Tpr_1808
@Tpr_1808 Час назад
That would make it inefficient. Trent 500s are okay to go to older variants
@herbertmoshesh7448
@herbertmoshesh7448 Минуту назад
Yes Trent xwb or genx on the A340
@aviationalpha757
@aviationalpha757 3 часа назад
Boeing should have chosen to redesign the 757 to conquer the mid range market and rival the A321
@Sacto1654
@Sacto1654 38 минут назад
Interestingly, the McDonnnell-Douglas MD-80 series planes were built strong enough to get a new engine. They should have been re-engined with the Pratt & Whitney PW6024 engines starting from around 2007 on, which could have resulted in a much quieter airplane that could have extended the life of the MD-80 to almost 2030!
@stradivarioushardhiantz5179
@stradivarioushardhiantz5179 2 часа назад
Would be great if several aircrafts re-engined; 1. DC-8-73 = 4x PW1900G 2. A340-600 = 4x GEnx-2B 3. 747SP = 4x GEnx-2B 4. 767-400ER = 2x GEnx-2B 5. An-124 = 4x GEnx-2B 6. C-5M = 4x GEnx-2B 7. C-141 = 4x PW1500G 8. P1 = 4x PW1700G 9. C-17 = 2x Trent-XWB-84 10. IL-96-300 = 4x PW1135G 11. A340-300 = 4x PW1131G 12. Avro RJ100 = 4x PW308C 13. S-3 = 4x AE3009 14. IL-76MF = 4x PW1131G 15. (Future) An-225 = 4x Trent-XWB-97 or 6x GEnx-B 16. Tu-154 = 3x PW1500G 17. SSJ100 = 2x PW1900G 18. CH-47 = 2x T408 19. CH-46 = 2x PT6C 20. SA-321F = 3x PT6C 21. S-64 = 2x T408 22. 214ST = 2x CT7C 23. C-160 = 2x PW150 24. Martin Mars = 4x PW150 25. Be-200 = 2x PW1900G
@Sacto1654
@Sacto1654 36 минут назад
The MD-80 series should have been re-engined with the Pratt & Whitney PW6024 engine starting in 2007.
@alicelund147
@alicelund147 4 часа назад
A380 should be profitable to re-engine. Rolls-Royce Trent 900 was offered already 1996. Maybe with an upgraded Trent XWB that at the same time could be for a A350neo., or just as an upgrade to current Trent XWB for A350/reengine A380.
@PVZBlover
@PVZBlover 3 часа назад
A350neo with the GE9X as an option
@Tpr_1808
@Tpr_1808 Час назад
It's an exclusive contract
@athrunzala3358
@athrunzala3358 3 часа назад
757 with the Leap-1B
@joshuacoats-evenhouse9771
@joshuacoats-evenhouse9771 4 часа назад
Thr 757 could have new life if it was done 10 years back. But im afraid the airframes are all too old at this point for it to be worth it...
@Tpr_1808
@Tpr_1808 Час назад
Other airlines are forced to retire them since some have metal fatigue or corrosion
@CoSmicGoesRacing
@CoSmicGoesRacing 2 часа назад
These are some I think would benefit from a re-engine A380 with Trent XWBs or GE90. 747 with Trent 1000s A340 with GENx A330neo with GENx MD-11 with the GENx DC-9/MD-80 with PW1000G 757 with Trent 7000. A318 with PW1000G (basically same engine spec as the A220-100) A220 with LEAP
@fra93ilgrande
@fra93ilgrande 4 минуты назад
The KC-135 with CFM56 engines is my favorite 😍✈️🔥🔝 Anyway I'd love an A380 Neo
@EngelsAviation
@EngelsAviation 3 часа назад
smone to re engine 757 now plzzzzz !!!!! anyone out there?! ;)))
@EuropeanRailfanAlt
@EuropeanRailfanAlt 4 часа назад
The first re-engine would probably be the KC-135 re-engine. But the most popular/well known are definitely the A320neo and 737 MAX
@magical_catgirl
@magical_catgirl 4 часа назад
I was on an AA ANC-DFW flight last year operated by an A321neo. Another passenger nearby asked the flight attendant what the "neo" meant (having seen it on the safety card). The flight attendant didn't know.
@OhhDaarBenJePerry
@OhhDaarBenJePerry 4 часа назад
The NEO or MAX are not a re engine of an old plane. Putting CFM56 on a DC8 of KC135 is a re engine of an old plane. Same as with the re engine of the B52 or the C5 galaxy.
@TravelWithKabirCD
@TravelWithKabirCD Час назад
A380 hands down. Given the upturn in aviation and travel, the issue of constraints will continue to grow. Aircraft like that will be needed!
@robk3005
@robk3005 11 минут назад
I would re-engine the flying pencil....aka the B757. A pair of engines currently used by the B737 Max would probably be a great fit for the airframe. Another re-engine I'd love to see would be to place a pair of GE9-X engines on a B747 airframe, however that would really change the aircraft and require extensive R&D and recertification.
@romandelasalle
@romandelasalle 3 часа назад
What about the DC3 re-engine?
@Gameflyer001
@Gameflyer001 37 минут назад
That's essentially what the P3-Orion is; an upgraded and reengined DC-3.
@taylorham4life
@taylorham4life 27 минут назад
@@romandelasalle a company years ago modified a DC-3 by stretching the fuselage adding turboprop engines as well as a streamlined nose cone
@FanRailer
@FanRailer Час назад
A380 with the Trent xwb or 7000.
@khoanguyenavia
@khoanguyenavia 46 минут назад
Get the Trent XWB on the A340s or the GE90 on the An-124
@jmstransit
@jmstransit 5 часов назад
B747 with GE9X DC10 with genx
@rafaelwilks
@rafaelwilks 4 часа назад
A B747-400 with two GE9X engines rated at 127,000lb thrust each would indeed be physically possible, considering the GE9X famously generated a maximum thrust of about 134,000lb. A DC10 with GEnx power could also be physically possible, considering the GEnx was originally designed to be able to produce a minimum of 53,000lb thrust.
@jasonwang6554
@jasonwang6554 Час назад
​@@rafaelwilkshowever the 747 wings have to be reinforced if it were to serve a two engine design, given that the outer engines' weight counters the bending force acting on the outer part of the wing during cursing
@TomDrez
@TomDrez Час назад
It really feel to me that we're reaching the end of an age to ask that seriously, it's not necessarily stupid, but there's some form of nostalgy there
@smp_rc_2002
@smp_rc_2002 Час назад
the A380 with either Trent XWB or the GEnx engines
@F.u.Belitong
@F.u.Belitong 45 минут назад
Re engine can be done for suitable airframes, purposes, avionic and cabin layout will be a good work, but without any upgrades on airframes or new cabin layout, seating layout, refreshment will be a dumbest choices
@JetBlastPone
@JetBlastPone 58 минут назад
Not a commercial aircraft, but Boeing C-17A(RE) would be cool in my opinion
@trekrider8184
@trekrider8184 2 часа назад
737 with a single GE9x in the tail
@user-yt198
@user-yt198 14 минут назад
Do you mean one engine instead of two? That will never be certified.
@EduardGenardAndalis
@EduardGenardAndalis 36 минут назад
Boeing 757 = PW1000G-based PW enngine, RR “Trent 600 (III)”, or GEnx/LEAP-based engine (or yet, change the wings into CF composites, etc.
@EpicThe112
@EpicThe112 39 минут назад
C-5 Galaxy from GE TF39 to GE CF6-80C2s B-52 PW JT3D to RR BR715s
@sjvillar2796
@sjvillar2796 2 часа назад
An A340-NEO with Trent XWB engines or an MD-11 with GEnX or Trent engines
@makomadsen1602
@makomadsen1602 36 минут назад
Some aircraft have a limitaions f.eks boeing 737 to 70000 cycles and then it makes not ecomical to re engine.
@tw25rw
@tw25rw 4 часа назад
I'd like to see 747-400s flying again, though the a380 is probably easier.
@HesJustSteven
@HesJustSteven 3 часа назад
Re-engine the 757 with a newer Rolls-Royce Trent engine, to deliver the same 43,000 pounds of thrust as the RB211 did, call it Trent 400? If the PW1000G fixes its reliability problems, maybe Pratt & Whitney could offer a higher thrust variant of that for a re-engined 757.
@EduardGenardAndalis
@EduardGenardAndalis 42 минуты назад
Can be also called as “Trent 600 (III)”
@TheShowblox
@TheShowblox 5 часов назад
a340 be like
@YATRADIARIES...
@YATRADIARIES... 4 часа назад
I would re engine the boeing 757 WITH rolls royce trent 900 engines or genral electric genx 2b engines
@rafaelwilks
@rafaelwilks 4 часа назад
Either option would result in the most powerful 757 of all time
@jordanalexander4331
@jordanalexander4331 Час назад
757-200er with rolls Royce engines, and the 767 with can leaps.
@ChristinaK1024
@ChristinaK1024 56 минут назад
MCAS wasn't the issue with the 737MAX. The issue was Boeing didn't tell anyone about it's existence or develop pilot training for what to do when it fails. They did this so airlines wouldn't have to pay for pilots to undergo additional simulator training. That decision cost 300 lives. Oh, and MCAS' initial implementation was absolute trash, with no redundancy or comparison logic for the angle of attack sensors. That doesn't mean the idea of MCAS was a bad one though.
@Evolition180
@Evolition180 44 минуты назад
They forgot about the C-5 and the B-52.
@IanF-FPV
@IanF-FPV 13 минут назад
757-200 with P&W 1100G
@leezinke4351
@leezinke4351 35 минут назад
What about MD-80/90?
@JonathanStanley
@JonathanStanley 59 минут назад
A380 with 4x RR Trent Ultrafans... Emirates could probably solo this sometime in 2030's
@nowee_playzz4931
@nowee_playzz4931 Час назад
747 with geNX’s!
@corentinmouchel3825
@corentinmouchel3825 3 часа назад
The most logical re-engining today is on the A220 with CFM LEAP-1A instead of the PW PG1500
@joecrammond6221
@joecrammond6221 5 часов назад
they certainly succeeded with re-enginging the A320 NEO, the MAX might have been so if it wasn't for all these disasters made by poor engineering, MCAS, missing bolts keeping a door in place
@kukuc96
@kukuc96 2 часа назад
What Airbus calls NEO is not a really a re-engine (and the MAX isn't either). They are not putting new engines on old airframes. Those are all brand new, somewhat redesigned airframes with new engines, and some other new features. In both the A320 and the MAX case, that includes longer fuselages and updated wingtip devices. The MAX also has longer, and telescoping landing gear, to gain a bit more clearance. The problem you face with a regular re-engines (for commercial aircraft), like the DC-8 and 727 examples in the video, is that you are working with airframes that are likely past at least half of their service life (if not even more), so they don't have much time to make back the cost of the re-engine. That's not to mention everything else that's outdated in the plane.
@TomJacobs1
@TomJacobs1 2 минуты назад
The A340-600Neo
@ProAvgeek6328
@ProAvgeek6328 3 часа назад
rebuild the an-225 with 6 ge9x
@NBLCGBLN
@NBLCGBLN 3 часа назад
Concorde & the A380 Don´t know with which engine though...
@Gameflyer001
@Gameflyer001 35 минут назад
Concorde perhaps with the SR-71s Ramjets.
@PakaBubi
@PakaBubi 5 часов назад
Boeing and their outdated 737 design lol
@ad-hv6sz
@ad-hv6sz 2 часа назад
1 GE90 to a Boeing 757
@t10391
@t10391 3 часа назад
757 and 767
@Km.67
@Km.67 18 минут назад
a340 with 2 ge9x
@tigersharkzh
@tigersharkzh 2 часа назад
No mention of the B-52?
@travelsgravy
@travelsgravy 2 часа назад
Re-engine B757.
@ViktorFromDK
@ViktorFromDK 4 часа назад
Give me an A320 or 737 with a GE9X...
@popeter
@popeter 4 часа назад
LEAP engines on the B-52
@bobbyr8071
@bobbyr8071 Час назад
8 GE9x on b52 😂😂😂
@svrsakura
@svrsakura 4 часа назад
the B-52 with 4x GE9X engines... or 8x LEAP engines
@Tpr_1808
@Tpr_1808 Час назад
A340-200 and 300 with trent 500s or the GTF (which was supposed to go there anyways) would do them justice if etops still favoured quadjets
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