Ya know… for all the sh*t we all give Chloe, she’s the ONLY one with the strength to stand up to Alex and call him out on his BS. Not even his own dad sets him straight like that. You can tell he isn’t used to it lol. Props to her!!
@@leeann1110 fair, HOWEVER… any man who speaks to women the way he does, so freely, and on NATIONAL TELEVISION - was not raised right. That is either learned or unchecked behavior 💯💯💯
@@kika0901 sorry I don't think you can always "blame the parents". So much shit can influence people. We have never seen Alex act this way in front of his parents. Is he a spoiled brat? Yes, but that doesn't automatically equate to someone being serial cheater and verbally abusive. JMO.
Villain of this episode is Drew. I hope Shelby dumped him immediately after this. He's so terrified to lose his free boat and Bimini trips that he sells out his own girlfriend and doesn't defend her honor. Hero of the sode is Chloe. I really hope Alex now having a daughter is intentionally trying to be a better man. Maybe getting cancelled is the best thing that's ever happened to him to redirect his personal life and character.
Honestly I feel like cuz they know we wanna see so they can go as slow as they want noo guys ur ruining the anticipation I'm about to start watching elsewhere
Any man who supports someone calling their gf names and yelling at her is a piece of crap! Drew allowed Alex to talk to his girlfriend like garbage. I would've dumped Drew in front of everyone
Kelsey cheat on Garrett twice and then she just approaches calling his current girlfriend a bitch sayings she’s using him (reflecting obs) and then she cries because he is not a good friend???
Yes! That entire scene I was like wtf? lol I think in her (possibly drunken) mind she was going to try to get Garrett to turn on Cara or at least drive a wedge between them so she could confide in him about her Mom's situation.... but then she went about it horribly lol
Oh Whitney and Timmy...another amazing sode. You guys friggin rock. So thankful for what y'all do. Truly bringing so much laughter and joy to people's day.
Kelsey is so manipulative she went over there & told Garrett one thing then everyone else another to gaslight them into giving her sympathy. Her using her mother to do so is gross. She’s just mad she no longer has power of Garrett because she’s a narcissist.
Yes, at this point I can't stand her anymore. Hope she got help the last couple of years. There is a personality disorder there for sure. Make me think of borderline or something.
@@Annieriannie I agree because the way she never takes accountability for her actions, genuinely believes she does nothing wrong & the way she always tries to play the victim are all behaviors of hers that suggest a personality disorder. Also, her vanity too which is annoying af as well.
1000%, I understand it looks weird but anybody that is that into meal planning/fitness definitely brings their protein powders/homemade dressings/etc along when they go out so they can stick to their rigid plan
This keeps happening to Pauly because people keep bailing him out...no one lets him face the consequences....sickening. If you want to financially help someone with an addiction, offer to pay for treatment and THAT'S IT! People don't get they are actually harming the addict by cleaning up all of their messes. Go to an Alonon meeting instead.
Pretty sure Juliet was on Xanax in that scene… she’s slurring big time and talking pretty slow, she’s stressed AF over Alex so it wouldn’t be too far off… she’s definitely out of it
Ugh I really hope Jared gets the help he needs & deserves. Messy Kelsey at it again, lol. And the way Alex kept telling his friend to "check his b***" was just not it.
Kelsey is the queen of gas lighting! One minute walking up to Garrett and calling Kara a using him b#@*h the next minute crying on someone's shoulder that he's not there for her. Kelsey treated Garrett like garbage most of the time if Garrett stays involved with Kelsey in anyway he is not serious about Kara one bit. There's no excuse for how she treated Garrett in the past or Kara, if he excuses her, it's best he be excused.
@@Annieriannie Yes, she is appearing to have a light mental health issue. I do hope she has got treatment since these days but the likely hood of treating the type of narcissistic behavior she shows is low because it's often hard to self diagnose. If she isn't getting treatment a consequence will be when she decides to publicly showcase her issues, people will identify them and it won't feel good. If she reads comments it could actually lead to her self diagnosing and getting proper help.
As a retired Sailor, I will always understand what a fellow shipmate is going through. I was enlisted from 1999-2019. And yes, ptsd from different levels is real and should be recognized by the government and society. I have been changed as a wife and mother of 4. Retired 3 years.
Does anyone feel bad for Juliet at this point? I get that they're young and all that but this is insane. She openly admitted that she's going to just pretend this didn't happen. Something happened to her in her life, some traumatic thing that created this issue she has because it is simply outrageous. You must take ownership of how you allow people to continue to treat you! A mistake you didn't expect, one thing... when they make a DECISION you can basically predict? Him knowing damn well all he has to do is say hes sorry, totally not the same. When you know they're going to do the same crap, you are allowing it and then somehow are still surprised when it happens. She's addicted to the idea of what their relationship could be not the reality, not even freaking close.
she has no self-respect and i don't know why. is it her parents?? is it purely her meeting alex and he did this to her? i mean, i had a lot of the same issues she had but then i went to therapy and realized how much of my childhood trauma played in my codependency, lack of self-worth, and lack of self-respect. i have empathy for her because something bad happened to her but she needs to wake up.
I’ve always thought this but he feels like he has to “keep up appearances” with the typical “hot” girl. He does not want judgment from his friends guaranteed !!
@@shae-lynnshepherd83 After reading these comments I can see him having feelings now too & Alex is exactly the type of person who would care more about his image than actually date someone he’s in love with.
Really want to hear Timmy's take on this! I have a theory that the reason Kelsey is so confusing is because her role is maybe the most produced but she was not prepared for how they would make her look and the more she tries to control her storyline (instead of just being quiet) the more messy she looks. I don't thinknshe knows how to handle blending reality with reality TV. Her delivery of calling Cara a bitch seems lazily thrown out like she's just playing the part (but bad at acting) then I think she took Garrett's response harshly. Reasons this makes sense: 1. Several locals have reported her and Garrett actually broke up between being cast for the show and beginning to film so they were pretending to still be together while sorting out wherr they stood in real life. This would explain her being so weird and confusing about admitting she cheated. I think she was down to fake the drama but when she realized she was going to be hated for being a cheater she tried to stop it. 2. She was a model and neither her or Garrett really hung out with that crew. This was an opportunity for her to get back in the industry while staying close to her mom. 3. She is close friends with Garrett in real life still and has been with Maddison consistently. I don't think they would be so close if she really was that awful. I think she was the most difficult to produce and it ended up working in their favor for a while because she just looked crazy but ultimately that's why she was let go from the show in such a messy way. The way she calls Cara a bitch in that scene looks like lazy bad acting to me like literally she makes the same face as a mean girl on a Disney show lol
i adore garrett and cara. garrett is very clearly a good, decent person and i love that for cara because that's what she needs. those two are so cute i almost can't stand it.
It is my birthday and I am imbibing with my best friend and Timmy jumping into Chloe's face at the 44:51 mark just made us lose our minds laughing. Thank you Whitney and Timmy and Annie. Y'all are the BEST
I can't help but feel bad for pauly tbh. Grieving at that age is really rough, you're technically an adult but bc of the intense trauma you're dealing with you act like a child. You just want mom or dad to be there. Realizing that you're so alone is an isolating and depressing feeling.
I wish more people understood this rather than just writing Pauly off as a misfit. Grieving a parent is extremely emotionally hard I can't imagine grieving both of them. I hope he gets the help he needs.
While I agree, it doesn’t excuse the fact that he’s an absolutely awful person and a complete sociopath. He needs to grow up and take responsibility for his actions. Period.
I have mixed feelings about this. For sure his development arrested at the age trauma happened. On the other hand, he can't spend the rest of his life justifying his misfits because of this. He needed serious therapy and rehab and hope he's doing better now
@@superjules21ok but some of his arrests were stupid shit...like weed possession? Twenty grams? That's seriously nothing and just set him up for a shitty future
Can you guys address the fact that Cara is not using Garrett? Whitney said, using him for what to be on the show? I don't think she knew why Kelsey said that either. The cast mentioned Cara has more money than Alex and her aunt's ex, (Cara's ex- uncle) owned 80% of the stock of Viacom (MTV connection right there) and CBS. He was worth 4.1 billion dollars. I think she is way richer than they make her seem (even though they make her seem pretty rich lol).
i don't like Chloe but I'm glad she called out Alex's bs. Look at the face he does when he heard what he had said about that girl's bits, 100% he did say that,
Alex - it is slippery slope or rocky road. Not rocky slope. Well you could say it and they technically exist, but nobody says that. Can you all imagine having HIM as your attorney? Oh my gawd.
Yea I picked up on that in this episode too. She told Juliette about the whole Facetime convo as if she was there instead of letting Shelby tell her (first person) observation of what happened ha
My heart goes out to all veterans of war and understand the invisible scars that accompany civilian life. Depression can feel appropriate when your peers didn’t come home alive on top of seeing the atrocities of war 25:51
I love every reaction y’all give! I’ve never seen this show and only watch it when I see y’all react and give your opinion! I absolutely-fucking love it! ❤❤
Whole time I just kept watching Whitney doing het facial roller thing 😂😊 girl you're so naturally beautiful! P.S. where can I purchase that beauty/skincare tool?!
Omg I’ve caught up. I am here. With everyone. Hey everyone. I have been binging since the hills & been desperately wanting to get to the current stuff. It’s been such a wonderful journey of binging. I love it here. 😹
Definitely follow her on instagram if you have one! You might be able to find the products on there- she posts them in her stories pretty regularly!! Love her for that 😄
