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Reacting to Carmelo Anthony saying not being drafted by the Pistons changed the course of his career
Stephen A. Smith, Max Kellerman and Kendrick Perkins debate whether they would look at Carmelo Anthony like LeBron James and Dwyane Wade if he had been drafted by the Detroit Pistons.
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@libanismail1170
@libanismail1170 3 года назад
The fact the Carmelo is admitting this makes me feel like he’s realised that his career didn’t match up to his own expectations which is sad.
@gregorybooker5469
@gregorybooker5469 3 года назад
Your right, Carmelo is seeing his draft class flourish while realizing he didn't meet his own expectations and has made a lot of money, Championships 🤔 on the other hand hmm. Little bitterness out of Carmelo.
@Kirbystare1992
@Kirbystare1992 3 года назад
Honestly does anybody’s?
@macewbee
@macewbee 3 года назад
True he kind of shot himself in the foot a couple of times.
@clarenceoliveriii
@clarenceoliveriii 3 года назад
@@priestfultonjwingbajr1430 thanks for sharing🙏🏽keep sharing the love and word of God!
@TheNamesDitto
@TheNamesDitto 3 года назад
It's definitely his fault
@gradymckinney7306
@gradymckinney7306 3 года назад
04 pistons were holding mfs to 70 points. 60s in the playoffs.. One of the best if not best defenses ever
@FireAngelChris
@FireAngelChris 3 года назад
Scary good defensively
@jamez2fly92
@jamez2fly92 3 года назад
💯💯💯.
@ezekwu
@ezekwu 3 года назад
them and the 08 celtics...
@ForzaMilan-di2zd
@ForzaMilan-di2zd 3 года назад
5 straight games holding opponents to 60 pts. Never will that b done again
@Loganbub
@Loganbub 3 года назад
@@ezekwu not even comparable. Go check the 08 Celtics and 04 Pistons numbers, especially the playoff defensive numbers, the 04 Pistons were much better and it’s not even close.
@urbaindelva7869
@urbaindelva7869 3 года назад
A rookie Melo being a part of that "Goin to Work" Pistons chemistry and culture would have definitely altered his mindset for the rest of his career. However, you gotta figure it out for yourself sometimes.
@ZombieZifiction
@ZombieZifiction 3 года назад
or maybe him being there would have ruined THEIR chemistry. works both ways.
@Stonecoldalston
@Stonecoldalston 3 года назад
@@ZombieZifiction I doubt it would have ruined their chemistry being so young going to a Franchise like the pistons they would have taught him early on he would have been around Vets You see once Chauncey went to Denver that helped Melo muture imagine if he got to play with Chauncey from the start
@benjaminallen3117
@benjaminallen3117 3 года назад
@@Stonecoldalston yea but larry brown was the coach he really didnt like rookies and already having tayshaun prince he probably wouldn't see the floor like that at least the first year but after that idk
@TheBeasty233
@TheBeasty233 3 года назад
@@benjaminallen3117 he For sure would’ve touched the floor regardless of what the coach liked. He was too much of a scorer not to. Wouldn’t of started but he easily would’ve had a 6th man role.
@theoriginaltroll388
@theoriginaltroll388 3 года назад
Lol you are a smart guy
@Zilla702Killa
@Zilla702Killa 3 года назад
Pistons with another scorer in 05 would dominate the East.
@ZombieZifiction
@ZombieZifiction 3 года назад
their defense would not have been as good with melo. no thank you.
@joejett5084
@joejett5084 3 года назад
When a wingman with his ability going into the draft and potential became available, you take him. He was an upgrade over any wing they had.
@Alexanderthepraised9
@Alexanderthepraised9 3 года назад
@@ZombieZifiction it actually works because defense is about effort. And on time he would have had to gave it which would have been better for his career.
@theoriginaltroll388
@theoriginaltroll388 3 года назад
@@ZombieZifiction lol let him guard the weakest guy and let him drop 30
@BobbyVan510
@BobbyVan510 3 года назад
They would of won back to back to back championships
@chase7662
@chase7662 3 года назад
This isn’t talked about enough tbh and bosh on the heat was such an underrated player he did so much stuff that didn’t show up….definitely one of the most selfless players ever IMO
@t99155
@t99155 3 года назад
Facts and he had some clutch defensive plays and hit big shots too..without Bosh they def don’t win
@m_js5709
@m_js5709 3 года назад
Bosh averaging almost 18 & 8 with 80% ft shooting, 50% fg shooting & great defensive match up ability over those 4 seasons is so understated. He went from averaging 24 & 12 in Toronto as the num 1 guy to 18 & 8 as the number 3 while completely retooling his game from the outside and committing to the defensive end. Such an amazingly versatile performance by him during that run.
@nani6885
@nani6885 3 года назад
He gave up his possession time just to win, he was a beas in the paint back in raptors
@fritzspry8899
@fritzspry8899 3 года назад
@bob Rush Same with Kevin Love
@lightskindeebo6849
@lightskindeebo6849 3 года назад
Yea one of the most definitely. Iyo who's the #1 most selfless in the NBA that you've Seen?!
@jhuot23
@jhuot23 3 года назад
Pistons won the chip without drafting melo that year but could've won more if they drafted him.
@michaelz8410
@michaelz8410 3 года назад
For sure, they went 7 games with the Spurs the next year and if they had Melo I believe they’d beaten the Spurs
@paulwarren6062
@paulwarren6062 3 года назад
But they might not have Rasheed if they had Melo. You can't just look at the team that won it and assume everything would have been the same with Melo. There are way too many variables. It's not that easy to just assume Pistons would have won with Melo anyway. Everything happened for a reason.
@ZombieZifiction
@ZombieZifiction 3 года назад
wrong. you casuals are so dumb.
@ericvincent24
@ericvincent24 3 года назад
the pistons would’ve been a dynasty with melo. they would’ve won/run the east for at least 5-6 years. side note: i also truly believe that if the pistons selected him then his game would be different. those pistons teams were defense first, & were dominated by some elite veterans. w/ melo being on those teams i think that melo would be a defense minded individual, & more of a team playing player instead of that score first mindset that he had to be while w/the nuggets.
@ZombieZifiction
@ZombieZifiction 3 года назад
@@ericvincent24 casual
@Braylon1997
@Braylon1997 3 года назад
Melo would have been an NBA champion in 04 instead of Darko
@pangdgenius9335
@pangdgenius9335 3 года назад
Nope... Pistons would've lost.. check the roster without BIGS
@Braylon1997
@Braylon1997 3 года назад
@@pangdgenius9335 idk man they would still have Rasheed by the time they reached the finals
@Terror832
@Terror832 3 года назад
@@pangdgenius9335 Darko played 4 total minutes in the Finals and went 0/2 FG and 0/2 FT. Pistons were winning without him
@julianclanton1204
@julianclanton1204 3 года назад
@@Terror832 you beat me 2 it.
@MrGenexxx
@MrGenexxx 3 года назад
Nope. Kobe owned Melo.
@CircleTheWagonsOG
@CircleTheWagonsOG 3 года назад
he’s literally not wrong lmao
@phillipmoore6249
@phillipmoore6249 3 года назад
Straight up facts.
@ObveeusLee0
@ObveeusLee0 3 года назад
Fr
@sixtynine4009
@sixtynine4009 3 года назад
@@priestfultonjwingbajr1430 I am a believer but this is annoying and has no correlation to video whatsoever.
@caytonhopson3200
@caytonhopson3200 3 года назад
@@priestfultonjwingbajr1430 Cmon bro i believe but this is what ppl mean by forcing religion down ppls throats this has nothing to do with the nba, Melo, nor the pistons
@ccae07
@ccae07 3 года назад
03-04 pistons held teams under 70 like 6 straight games I remember like it was yesterday. Big Ben was was a monster protecting the glass
@HR-ms6ed
@HR-ms6ed 3 года назад
Definitely better then the bulls defense
@dvwave10
@dvwave10 3 года назад
Four straight games in the regular season under SIXTY points. Insane. Melo wouldve become an all time defender
@JuneBug79824
@JuneBug79824 3 года назад
Yeah but that Ravens defense in 2000 gave up the fewest points in NFL history and nobody has even come close till this day!!!!!!
@aaaa4092
@aaaa4092 3 года назад
I hope the Pistons fired the scout that told them to draft frikin Darco Milicic over Carmelo, Bosh, and Wade
@tedlogan5628
@tedlogan5628 3 года назад
Wouldn't that be fun to have on your resume for the rest of your life...lol.
@breonmitchell2443
@breonmitchell2443 3 года назад
European American scout probably was racist
@agirotto1
@agirotto1 3 года назад
Thing is, it was not a one-man perception. Lots of scouts and GMs were drooling all over Darko. Dumars himself was enamored by him due to his perfect private workout with the Pistons. It is said that he was amazing out there, draining shots, showing terrific athleticism, great footwork and all, to the point that you could hear people in the stands whispering things like "this guy is gonna own the league". It's funny 'cos those were basketball people and lots of them were along for the ride. Of course, Dumars had the final say, so the responsibility fall on his shoulders.
@Scott86Free
@Scott86Free 3 года назад
Chad Ford aka Pistons Scout and Darko’s agent
@TRILLTALKTV
@TRILLTALKTV 3 года назад
it wasn't that it was tayshaun prince him and Melo are at the same position. their starting 5 was set so darko made sense coming off the bench.
@SheeeshSami
@SheeeshSami 3 года назад
I love how Stephen A. Smith says that he broke the South Beach Trio story then Max responds by saying he was the original host for Around the Horn. Great history lesson today! Lol
@kingspade4140
@kingspade4140 3 года назад
my only thing is that idk if the pistons go get sheed if they draft melo, and sheed was important to that 04 title run
@macewbee
@macewbee 3 года назад
They will because the Hawks let him go also the major problem is Larry Brown since he would not let him start he has a habit of not starting the rookies.
@FloydWhoElseTV
@FloydWhoElseTV 3 года назад
Melo was on a rookie contract. Why wouldnt they?
@BigZoe99
@BigZoe99 3 года назад
@@macewbee that would be fine for his first year to be coming off the bench behind prince. He would be 6th man of the year material and would end up starting the next year at the latest. As max said tho, he wouldn't be their best player and to be in that wade lebron category,.he'd have to be mvp level for the pistons in the playoffs
@litodat233
@litodat233 3 года назад
YeH they would’ve still got Sheed cuz they trade atkins hunter and first round pick for Sheed to the hawks so melo wouldn’t had effected that same way darko didn’t and melo would’ve been on the bench
@Loganbub
@Loganbub 3 года назад
They do, the Pistons drafted a big and yet stil badly needed a big so I don’t see how it changes the Sheed trade from happening.
@nothingbutnet2776
@nothingbutnet2776 3 года назад
We're gonna miss u, Max
@BigBen1994
@BigBen1994 3 года назад
DWade's 2006 finals perform was one for the ages, I agree with Max on that one...
@redghost8871
@redghost8871 3 года назад
Larry Brown would’ve sat out Melo for not trying on defense 😂😂😂
@Darealmenxce
@Darealmenxce 3 года назад
EXACTLY🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@back2back379
@back2back379 3 года назад
And Melo would've thrown fits, having been a major star his whole life and seeing guys like Lebron and Wade being focal points of their own teams.
@jafarray6845
@jafarray6845 3 года назад
Idk cuz Iverson was the same way but melo was worse so... maybe
@ocsjc13
@ocsjc13 2 года назад
Or maybe he would have gotten good on defense who knows
@Joemama72096
@Joemama72096 3 года назад
Growing up watching melo as a Denver fan was so fun. He had some great teams there. Denver should retire his jersey
@agirotto1
@agirotto1 3 года назад
The big question is: if they had drafted Melo, do they trade for Sheed? Funny game, playing-ifs.
@KingKCA
@KingKCA 3 года назад
They wouldn’t have won without Sheed so hard to say
@litodat233
@litodat233 3 года назад
YeH they would’ve still got Sheed cuz they trade atkins hunter and first round pick for Sheed to the hawks so melo wouldn’t had effected that same way darko didn’t and melo would’ve been on the bench
@KingKCA
@KingKCA 3 года назад
@@litodat233 yeah but if melo is balling do they even make that move? They looked at Sheed as the missing piece to a championship because they kept losing in the conference finals
@worldnewz6963
@worldnewz6963 3 года назад
Good point
@clutch7548
@clutch7548 3 года назад
@@KingKCA yeah cause Sheed was a big man enforcer that they needed (to go with Ben) .. Melo was pure buckets but couldnt play power forward the same way
@YaarTeraUkWala
@YaarTeraUkWala 3 года назад
Those beautiful eyes are reading my comment God bless them and prolong the life of their parents.
@mrjohnsonaj1
@mrjohnsonaj1 3 года назад
Max needs to first understand that defense is more effort than skill, second he has to understand that the Pistons was Ben Wallace's team. Who gonna tell Big Ben you not playing defense🤔🤔🤔
@coolbreeze2.0-mortemadfasc13
@coolbreeze2.0-mortemadfasc13 3 года назад
Big Ben, Tayshaun providing the defense and Melo providing the offensive spark.
@qdamusiq5006
@qdamusiq5006 3 года назад
You never needed 5 great defensive players on the court to be a good defensive team , never in the history of the sport . It’s weird how people look to be a contrarian to Melo at every turn
@clutch7548
@clutch7548 3 года назад
@@qdamusiq5006 lol you are correct. All that matters is that you arent a TERRIBLE defender. Melo when putting in effort was above average Just his inconsistent effort made people treat him like a cancer just cause he wasnt playing D like Jordan - way too harsh
@qdamusiq5006
@qdamusiq5006 3 года назад
@@clutch7548 and it’s only a handful of perineal scorers in NBA history that played both ends night end /night out. Only thing Melo was really guilty of in his career is prioritizing the bag over winning , other than that it’s all BS opinions
@nottailopez9891
@nottailopez9891 3 года назад
Max please don’t leave :( we love you
@josu2z22
@josu2z22 3 года назад
Max speaking facts once again that dwade performance was too legendary the chances of melo doing something like that were very slim
@clutch7548
@clutch7548 3 года назад
Thats true but Melo still would’ve balled out , even if it wasnt a Jordan-like performance we saw from Wade
@DatsjoeYT
@DatsjoeYT 3 года назад
That was one of the worst finals every time he was getting fouled I couldn’t even watch it was too cringy
@back2back379
@back2back379 3 года назад
In the playoffs, Melo, despite being a scoring specialist, has averaged 23 PPG on just 41.4% FG in his career. He has an extremely overrated and glorified reputation on offense, his Offensive Rating/100 in the playoffs is just 104 while his Defensive Rating/100 in the playoffs is 109, meaning he has a Net Rating/100 of -5 in the playoffs for his career.
@vivek-ramatsunami
@vivek-ramatsunami 3 года назад
What changed the course of his career is him not being good enough to play defense not “not getting drafted by a certain team”. If he wanted to get drafted by the pistons he could’ve showed them during workouts that he has potential to play defense. But he didn’t and he blew that chance too.
@clutch7548
@clutch7548 3 года назад
Thats moronic, he just won a national championship playing defense And why did the coaches keep voting him in to allstar games if he was so bad? Why did he get picked for the Olympics every time if he played no D? Pistons made a mistake, Darko is a way worse defender than Melo LMAO
@hockeyfan1799
@hockeyfan1799 3 года назад
If anyone's getting Deja Vu, they did this exact same segment last year. Like, beat for beat.
@JJMegatron
@JJMegatron 3 года назад
Melo would get the respect he deserves if he got drafted by the pistons
@ZombieZifiction
@ZombieZifiction 3 года назад
that's assuming they would've won with him
@Charsi_Escobar
@Charsi_Escobar 3 года назад
@@ZombieZifiction Ben and Chauncey would’ve checked him and kept him in line, they lowkey could’ve been a mini dynasty barring catastrophic injuries
@blankphone3470
@blankphone3470 3 года назад
It's crazy on how Bron was trying to make a bigger BIG 3...but yall never wanna crictize him
@Charsi_Escobar
@Charsi_Escobar 3 года назад
@@blankphone3470 lmfao he's the most criticized athlete on the planet what you mean lolllll
@HennyKravitz_94
@HennyKravitz_94 3 года назад
Prime Melo, Wade, and James on the same team would’ve been so scary.
@mrray7169
@mrray7169 3 года назад
I think Bosh was a better fit. He gave them that rim protecting big
@chidori5399
@chidori5399 3 года назад
Feels unfair for the time. Boston had the big 3 but they were getting old
@michaelz8410
@michaelz8410 3 года назад
@@mrray7169 me 2, Bosh personality fits better
@viresproductions
@viresproductions 3 года назад
I'm so glad this video cut off before Perk started his nonsense
@TONEakaSHOW
@TONEakaSHOW 3 года назад
Melo going to the pistons would have also stop wade from getting his 1st ring in 06
@justinbosmans3658
@justinbosmans3658 3 года назад
The disrespect to that 05 spurs team is insane. It still would’ve been a great series, but as great as that Detroit defense was, nobody was stopping duncan.
@worldnewz6963
@worldnewz6963 3 года назад
They went 7 games add Melo and it’s just about a lock for Detroit
@atribecalledlen3567
@atribecalledlen3567 3 года назад
It went 7 games without melo
@lukata77
@lukata77 3 года назад
One of the biggest reasons Detroits defense was so great was because of Lindsay Hunter the greatest on ball harassing point guard I ever saw when he was with the Pistons, and Mike James who was sort of like a free safety at the guard position with Lindsay
@marxeloworld6854
@marxeloworld6854 3 года назад
KEEP CLIMBING GOD THEIRS NOTHING YOU CANT OVERCOME WE AINT YOUNG WE AINT OLD WERE TIMELESS KEEP BEING GREAT PEACE GOD🔥👁🔥
@deepee4323
@deepee4323 3 года назад
I'm a Brooklyn fan but I hope Melo wins with the Lakers so he can retire with a ring while having maximized his earning potential
@aaronpeters1770
@aaronpeters1770 3 года назад
You know everyone who either comes out of our state of Va wether born here or went to power house high school or college here is a baller. Seen melo play at oak hill and it was amazing. Glad to see him be on a good enuf team to win trophy now. Go Lake Show !!!!
@Primenumber19
@Primenumber19 3 года назад
Larry brown hated rookies and would never have played him same as darko.
@shabazz360
@shabazz360 3 года назад
Nope. He was too big of a prospect he would have received pressure from upper management to play him.
@Primenumber19
@Primenumber19 3 года назад
@@shabazz360 and what was darko? Larry brown benched Lebron Wade and Carmelo in the olympics and got a bronze out of spite because he hated young players.
@johnsonle9440
@johnsonle9440 3 года назад
What if legacy between melo and t- mac T-mac - couldve play with jordan, kobe , tim duncan Melo - drafted 2nd over all , play with lebron and d wade
@joejett5084
@joejett5084 3 года назад
I didn’t hear about the Kobe 1. Oh God 😆😆
@muddywaters2818
@muddywaters2818 3 года назад
Lot of people forget Melo’s rookie year, the Pistons didn’t have Rasheed Wallace till later on that season when they traded for him. If they would’ve drafted Melo, than they probably would’ve never traded for Wallace because Prince played the 3 and with Melo being a great rookie player they would’ve played him at the 4. But we’ll never know. My favorite what if is, what if Tracy Mcgrady and Vince Carter never left Toronto… later on adding Bosh.
@bussterdouglas
@bussterdouglas 3 года назад
Melos career in Denver was still legendary idc what anybody says he was unstoppable.
@robsmith6650
@robsmith6650 3 года назад
Melo is a top 10 scorer of all time. Imagine being drafted by Pistons and winning multiple championships. Just that would’ve put him in talks of being a top 50 greatest ever.
@cwp4eva
@cwp4eva 3 года назад
Nah. They still would’ve lost to that Spurs team
@clutch7548
@clutch7548 3 года назад
Melo is 10x better than the bums they had off the bench. Thus affecting the point differential enough to win the series
@back2back379
@back2back379 3 года назад
There's a reason why Dumars didn't want to draft Melo, because he, Larry Brown, and the core team members knew the kind of player Melo was, a ball-stopper who restricts ball movement as well as a subpar defender. Larry Brown was also notorious for not wanting to play rookies, so they didn't want chemistry issues due to clashing between Larry Brown and Melo, and the clashing would likely have happened with Melo seeing his draft classmates like Lebron and Wade getting playing time and being focal points of their respective teams while Melo would have had to sit on the bench much more.
@sumarahussain6013
@sumarahussain6013 3 года назад
I like carmelo anthony playing with the Lakers.
@maxwatkins9275
@maxwatkins9275 3 года назад
Who knew that him being drafted by Detroit changed the course of his career, elite analysis
@ChavisGreenard
@ChavisGreenard 3 года назад
My Pistons wasn't same after they drafted Darko over Melo. We had the chance to draft all time great talent and cement more championships in the lore of Piston and NBA history. Instead, we're STILL struggling to draft, trade AND keep actual talent, recruit free agents (mainly because the majority don't want to live in a small market like Detroit), or even compete for a conference title, LET ALONE an NBA title. The decisions that was made that draft day ACTUALLY destroyed a long lasting championship run for the Pistons and a chance for Melo to get a ring EARLY in his career.
@dstack18
@dstack18 3 года назад
I'm so sick of hearing about this .. I was upset we didn't get him yea ... But do we still make the trade for sheed if we had Melo? Does Melo get that block on Reggie Miller to save the series ? It would take critical minutes for tayshaun .. who played such a huge role on defense.
@litodat233
@litodat233 3 года назад
Bra pistons didn’t trade for Sheed they would’ve had him regardless he got traded to the hawks and played one game and the hawks bought out his contract made him a free agent and he signed with the pistons how don’t u know this and pistons your team 🤦‍♂️
@litodat233
@litodat233 3 года назад
Tayshaun would’ve been the starter so yeah would’ve still got that block melo would’ve been on the bench Larry brown wasn’t starting him y’all taking stuff the wrong way like saying melo would’ve came there averaged 20 started and been the reason they won the title not what they saying he would’ve won a title jus like darko did by being on the bench and coming in occasionally Larry brown didn’t play rookies a whole lot so same thing would’ve happened
@dstack18
@dstack18 3 года назад
@@litodat233 check google man it was a 3 team trade from what I remember we traded Lindsey hunter , Bob sura and Zaza with 2 first round picks in a 3 team deal with Atlanta and Boston..
@dstack18
@dstack18 3 года назад
@@litodat233 and we also still had corlis Williamson who was a starter before tayshaun blossomed .. and a start when he left the team .. and okor who signed a max deal for the jazz ... so he would of been buried deep in our rotation.. or he would of done well and took minutes from tayshaun ... maybe his points would of helped us beat the pacers more easily maybe his defense would of been a liability for us ... does he build confidence on the bench .. i don't think so ..
@dstack18
@dstack18 3 года назад
Melo had a prime Kenyon martin, prime Billups, nene , Jr Smith , Chuck Atkins and Andre Miller.. and even a very good Iverson and couldn't even make the finals I don't think he would of done much for us ... I'd take wade if I could pick again
@LA_BIÈRE_CHAUD
@LA_BIÈRE_CHAUD 3 года назад
Larrry Brown didn’t even play Melo at the Olympics in 04. He probably would’ve languished on the bench, because he didn’t “play the right way”. Don’t think it would have been as smooth as people say.
@clutch7548
@clutch7548 3 года назад
Thats pretty dumb, not playing a rookie at the OLYMPICS is different than not giving a rookie time in the NBA Melo literally just won a national championship, he was clearly playing the right way … He also took the terrible Nuggets to the playoffs as a rookie - its obvious he could have a role with the Pistons Not to mention Chauncey and Rip’s influence on him
@LA_BIÈRE_CHAUD
@LA_BIÈRE_CHAUD 3 года назад
@@clutch7548 he did play Darko either. Larry Brown liked seasoned vets.
@hijodejames
@hijodejames 3 года назад
Larry Brown would've beat a defensive identity into Melo. Could've changed his whole outlook on the game.
@dpruitt1458
@dpruitt1458 3 года назад
The fact These ppl really get paid to speak on these athletes every word is funny and sick
@sphong0610
@sphong0610 3 года назад
Nah, I love Melo and I was a fan of the bad boy Pistons 2.0 but that would have been bad chemistry. The Pistons were a hard nosed team and Melo was a pretty selfish player even as a rookie. The Pistons weren't a favorite to win back then and it took a lot of work to get them there in the first place. One entitled rookie taking up minutes could have messed all that up. Even if Detroit wins it with Melo, Melo would either take a smaller role and not become a star, or would have had too much success early and become lazy and donut shaped like he did in NYC. Melo, my man, Denver was good for you and yall had some playoff success too. You got impatient and wanted the money too and that's on you not on some fate or a draft pick.
@controversialmann5345
@controversialmann5345 3 года назад
Ben woulda set him str8.
@theokeithjones318
@theokeithjones318 3 года назад
Stephen A. you are so right he was thinking about the money he wasn't thinking about the rings and now I look at him now.
@313drepeso313
@313drepeso313 3 года назад
Still haunts me till this day too 😩 We would've definitely won at least 2 more chips.
@thediseaseisthecure
@thediseaseisthecure 3 года назад
So we’re just going to ignore the fact that Larry Brown didn’t like playing rookies? Okay then. 😆
@JuanRuiz-nu8nl
@JuanRuiz-nu8nl 3 года назад
Plus if you didn't play defense, you're not going to play. Melo barely plays his rookie year because of Brown with rookies. And hardly more than that in season 2 because of his defense. This take is a joke from Perk and Steven A. The boxing analyst is the only one being real. ESPN is such a joke
@drtr3173
@drtr3173 3 года назад
If Detroit had drafted Melo they would’ve beaten the Spurs in 2005 and won back to back championships. The Pistons actually needed a scorer like Melo and he would’ve made that team even more insane
@mileybaby7576
@mileybaby7576 3 года назад
Every Detroit fan tells this story
@yungnflashytv
@yungnflashytv 3 года назад
Man Max changed the subject in the snippet lol
@wixkedwill7011
@wixkedwill7011 3 года назад
I hate how they juss be saying Jordan in everything that Pistons was obviously better cmon now
@Dec4AllTimeAlways
@Dec4AllTimeAlways 3 года назад
"Aquarius/Let The Sunshine In" by The 5th Dimension is such a great song to listen to in the morning. It's like the long cut for Alice Deejay's "Better Off Alone."
@Charsi_Escobar
@Charsi_Escobar 3 года назад
Never heard it before 🥲
@immanuelward2831
@immanuelward2831 3 года назад
As a great as Melo is, there is no way they would’ve won the title with Melo in 04. They probably wouldn’t have traded for Rasheed Wallace during the season, and their defense would not have been the same. They might have won a ring at some point, but, Rasheed Wallace put them over the top.
@litodat233
@litodat233 3 года назад
They would’ve still got Sheed bro it wouldn’t had effected that they gave up chucky Atkins lindsey hunter and a 1st round pick to the hawks why wouldn’t they still do that ? Melo wouldn’t had started prince would have melo would’ve been on the bench just like darko
@Rowwwdddyyy
@Rowwwdddyyy 3 года назад
niggas said: “U get rid of Max Kellerman, but keep Molly? “ 😂😂😂💀💀💀😂😂😂💀💀💀😂😂😂
@sydguitar99
@sydguitar99 3 года назад
When guarantee is there that Melo wouldn't be a ball hog on the Pistons? Chauncey himself said Melo would prefer scoring a lot of points even if it meant losing
@tmmitchell9541
@tmmitchell9541 3 года назад
Carmelo is 100% right. History would of been different. Pistons 3 to 5 NBA finals and winning at least 3..
@Niiigg89
@Niiigg89 3 года назад
Melo and Westbrook deserves a chip, and and if Dwight get a second chip he’s a for sure first ballot hof along with those two
@matt.s.miller
@matt.s.miller 3 года назад
Carmelo was on a Denver team that had true talent and fell to the Lakers (Kobe) in the WCF. What I saw from Carmelo on the Denver teams or for his career, is someone who didn't put the work in like LeBron or Wade. One of the most polished offensive players I've ever seen but lacked defensive skills and didn't put the effort in to ever become a well rounded player. I will say, Denver needed to do more to get another piece around him. AI wasn't the answer. Billups was good and the leader of the teams with Carmel but that was clearly not enough. Ultimately, I can't see Carmelo winning multiple titles on his prowess only, he's not a leader and is a one way player at best. People hate on LBJ for his finals losses but he routinely gets his teams (trash or not) to the finals. What has Carmelo ever done in comparison? Carmelo is a great offensive player but to say he would have multiple titles if he had been drafted by the Pistons is just ridiculous.
@Thaofficialsensei
@Thaofficialsensei 3 года назад
04 Pistons was the only team whose defense was a Offensive Weapon
@willovane787
@willovane787 3 года назад
He would be a nba champion for sure sure
@alexanderdemella6228
@alexanderdemella6228 3 года назад
This video segment is like Marvel's what if and it focuses on the basketball world of how NBA superstars' careers could've ended differently.
@marxeloworld6854
@marxeloworld6854 3 года назад
YOUR TIMELESS N DOPE ONE OF ONE💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵
@liftedgenius7870
@liftedgenius7870 3 года назад
And people wonder why Nuggets fans boo him every time he comes to Denver.
@rememberruff
@rememberruff 3 года назад
The only problem with Melo on the pistons is who's going to the bench between Sheed, and Prince. That team loses something if you bench either, and Melo isn't coming off the bench.
@blackoutgang09
@blackoutgang09 3 года назад
At 1:32 david stern telln melo..."pistons trippin like a mf dawg".
@rossjn9885
@rossjn9885 3 года назад
I think Carmelo would have risen to the occasion in the NBA Finals and cemented himself as the best scorer. Chauncey may not have gotten as much opportunity to become “Mr. Big Shot” either. For sure Melo would have emerged and it would have extended their championship window because of the defensive ability and buy in of that team as a whole. Even if Melo wasn’t the best player in the first year I think he emerges as the best player in subsequent years.
@omaralaniz475
@omaralaniz475 3 года назад
Omar Alaniz
@modmav5594
@modmav5594 3 года назад
Hindsight is 20/20, however life doesn't work like that.
@JuneBug79824
@JuneBug79824 3 года назад
Stephen A reporting the story (again) like it happened 100 years ago 😂😂😂
@JayTheAdviceGuy
@JayTheAdviceGuy 3 года назад
So many things would've had to change that year. Or BEEN different, I should say. 1: Had we drafted Carmelo, we may not have traded for Rasheed Wallace. Why? We have been better during the season, and not felt we needed him (even though we did) 2: Had Carmelo been in the game at Indiana, Tayshaun would have never made that block on Reggie Miller. On the other hand, we may have been ahead by much MORE in that game with Melo, which means the block wouldn't have even been necessary. There are other "what ifs" with this, but those are the first two that came to mind.
@SLSMe
@SLSMe 3 года назад
SAS is right BUT prioritizing money over winning was also a decision Melo made that hurt his chances at a Title
@queyoung6597
@queyoung6597 3 года назад
Ummm this isn't news people, in fact it's recycled material. A year ago on Dwyane Wades IG live, Carmelo said he'd have at least 2 rings if drafted by the Pistons.
@Dec4AllTimeAlways
@Dec4AllTimeAlways 3 года назад
Most Black folks who only listen to Black artists or even Mexicans or Filipinos don't get metal music. Thinks shouting is noise. A lot of it is very melodic like Iron Maiden.
@sukottisonny8113
@sukottisonny8113 3 года назад
Smartest thing he ever said
@donricolife1861
@donricolife1861 3 года назад
BAD BOYZ 4Life, FACTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Stephen A FACTS!!!!!!
@gregorymeltzer1216
@gregorymeltzer1216 3 года назад
85 Bears is statistically the best defensive team ever.
@Jairusd88
@Jairusd88 3 года назад
This Melo conversation have so many angles, but one for me is always that 07 collapse in the eastern conference finals pistons when it seem Bron went nuclear. I wonder if that series would have played out like it did or would Melo have have got the best of Bron and we get another pistons and spurs 07 finals matchup and how would the big 3 in Boston have played out.
@PoohShimmy
@PoohShimmy 3 года назад
Sometimes Max really speaking some sense. But then sometimes he says things like "greatest defense in team sports". 🤦🏾🤦🏾🤦🏾 Legion of Boom, 85-86 bears, Steel Curtain Steelers, 2000 Ravens.
@shaheemtaylor960
@shaheemtaylor960 3 года назад
Melo is a beast and one of the best offensive players ever unfortunately he has no rings. If Detroit would’ve drafted him he would have at least 2-3 rings
@KalElDaily
@KalElDaily 3 года назад
Melo wade lebron all on the same level there legends
@ChristopherSmithNYC
@ChristopherSmithNYC 3 года назад
Sick of people making excuses for this guy not living up to his potential.
@ronin4303
@ronin4303 3 года назад
His own pride is his worse enemy. He thought of him self so highly for so long and never thinking of the bigger picture. It’s unfortunate we never saw his best fighting for chips but at least now we can see him have a attempt to make things right
@ChristopherSmithNYC
@ChristopherSmithNYC 3 года назад
@@ronin4303 100
@Dec4AllTimeAlways
@Dec4AllTimeAlways 3 года назад
Metal music is actually relaxing like classical music. The star isn't the singer or the lyrics. It's the electric guitar riffs. You'll be surprised how relaxing Judas Priest is.
@MultiRjizzle
@MultiRjizzle 3 года назад
i like the smart comment bots like you. you have the ideal structure down to a science, but still comes off realistic enough to look legit
@rithvikbhongiri4175
@rithvikbhongiri4175 3 года назад
melo with that pistons team would've been something else man
@Thaofficialsensei
@Thaofficialsensei 3 года назад
In some alternate reality The Pistons Draft Melo they beat the Spurs Pistons Lose to Cavs in Game 7 of a Gladiator fight in 07, In the 2010 season Melo Joins Heatles instead of Bosh and They Win 4 finals in a row causing Lebron to return To Cleveland having to battle Miami, Chicago and Indy with a PG24 who never has a leg injury
@pangdgenius9335
@pangdgenius9335 3 года назад
He only meant he wanted to be #1 pick
@diontremcloyd6420
@diontremcloyd6420 3 года назад
Melo would have developed a whole new mindset. You can do it alone but Vets especially like them? Can definitely make a difference.
@thesun5924
@thesun5924 3 года назад
Melo, my man, u don’t remember Olympics 2004?? When coach Larry Brown didn’t even let U and Bron play!? U and Bron were 18-19 years old, played the whole rookie season (2003-04) as a starter in the NBA but coach Brown still didn’t trust u to play in the Olympics. How do u expect to play and be successful under him in Detroit?
@vbeard5887
@vbeard5887 3 года назад
He SINGLEHANDEDLY saved the Denver Nuggets Franchise. He's going to go down as a great player because of that alone! Sure the same could be said for Lebron but Melo did it faster.
@NaturesChosen
@NaturesChosen 3 года назад
I'm just here to see if Max Kellerman is still on the set
@kingdollaz302
@kingdollaz302 3 года назад
I understand what Stephen A. Smith is saying… However, you have to look at HOW MUCH history would be altered from the path it has went,.If melo goes to Detroit and wins 2 chips.. more than likely Dwade doesn’t get the 06 title, which also has an effect on Lebron making the finals in 07.. KG probably doesn’t go to Boston and so on.. and so on
@TheBrandFire
@TheBrandFire 3 года назад
MELO IS MELO 🗽
@jmcgee39
@jmcgee39 3 года назад
Max said it towards the end. Had the Pistons taken him and they won the Chip that year, you'd still look at him in a different light because he wouldn't have been the best player on that team unlike D. Wade when he won his 1st ring or LeBron when he got his 1st one.
@seasonaldepressioncomics434
@seasonaldepressioncomics434 3 года назад
D. Wade was the best player in Miami in 06. Even Shaq told him that.
@jmcgee39
@jmcgee39 3 года назад
@@seasonaldepressioncomics434 lol yes I know that. Point missed by you.
@bostongeorge2100
@bostongeorge2100 3 года назад
Them 2005 Spurs was a different breed I’m sorry it was gone take a prime mike to stop them that year🤷🏽‍♂️💯
@staredown480
@staredown480 3 года назад
The most shocking part of this clip was when max revealed he was the host of Around the horn
@onestopshop1222
@onestopshop1222 3 года назад
Also Melo is one of like 5 players ever to average over 20ppg their first 15 seasons
@buckeyedan3202
@buckeyedan3202 3 года назад
The issue with Joe D is that he didn’t know how to draft
@alvinrichmond305
@alvinrichmond305 3 года назад
He didn't need to know how to draft. That was as close to a no thought required draft as you will ever see. Melo was the pick, after that Wade based on his NCAA tourney...Dumars passed on 3 hall of famers!
@corpyhogan4433
@corpyhogan4433 3 года назад
Looking back on Carmelo‘s career it is sad that he isn’t a multi time champion and MVP . It all fits a talent like him is rare but he did make a few mistakes in his career in preventing him from being successful
@buschg7106
@buschg7106 3 года назад
Nice segment... for once
@alvinrichmond305
@alvinrichmond305 3 года назад
He's 1000% right. Carmelo would have likely ended up being one of the best to ever play. Learning defense and details from those vets. That was one of the dumbest draft picks I've ever seen. An elementary kid could have gotten that pick right. Carmelo as a freshman led cuse to a national title. He would have been going up against Tayshan Prince in practice every day...with Larry Brown preaching defense. Dumars never recovered from that move....smh
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