REACTING TO FINNISH SAYINGS AND IDIOMS | Part 5 

"Kusta jonkun muorihin" = "Pee in someones granma" 6/5

The word "poro" in "palaa poroksi" doesn't actually mean reindeer in this context. "Poro" can also mean "grounds" like coffee grounds, which in Finnish can be called as "kahvinporot" instead of "kahvinpurut". So "poro" actually means "puru" in this saying, but it's just more fun for us Finns to translate it as "reindeer" than "grounds" because of the reactions 😂

I've always understood "itku pitkästä ilosta" (cry from long fun) that if like children are playing too wildly and have 'too much fun', eventually someone will get hurt in the process and therefore there'll be a cry from long fun... Dunno if that's just in my family but that's how it was meant when my mom said it 😅

I remember hearing "itku pitkästä ilosta" a lot as a child. When kids are having fun and laughs, you can assume someone is going to cry soon.

Never heard of LKOP in my life! Palaa poroksi has nothing to do with reindeer in this context. It just means to burn to ashes.

While "poro" means a reindeer, it's also used in a word "kahvinporo" = coffee grounds. So that saying probably makes more sense if you think it like that

"Burn to a reindeer" is a mistranslation. Poro also means ash, dust or sediment though it is a bit old-fashioned word. Nowadays you would likely hear it as "kahviporo" = "coffee sediment".

I have _never_ heard anyone say LKOP or "luojan kiitos on perjantai".

I do use the saying TGIF 😄 (in English) never heard anyone say LKOP😂

I loved the little windows into your brain. The weekend pastry chef got me laughing out loud!

"poroksi" is misleading, since it also means a small particle. Coffee grounds are called kahvinporot and that makes way more sense. I feel like Dave had no chance here

That burt to a reinderr is a translation issue. The person who translated it didn't know the poro is also other things than reindeer. For example, kahvin porot. Resiudue left in coffee mug. Palaa poroksi can be translated even worse as "reeturn back as reindeer" or something ridiculous like that.

So when you are in nakkisuoja (sausage cover or something like that in English) you are in a place or state where you avoid that someone could "nakittaa" ("to give/assign a chore") some unpleasant chore or "nakki" to you.

Generally the "pee in one's cereal" is something one does to someone else. But it's one of those very modifiable idioms. "To pee in his/her cereals" is just as valid thing to say when you've done something to sabotage someone else through your actions or choices , or "to pee in my cereal" when you've managed to sabotage yourself. It also doesn't need to be cereal, like Luugi mentioned in a previous comment, in the army it tends to be "to pee in one's pakki" where pakki is colloquialism to the container you're supposed to eat out of when out in the woods for a training camp or such. There's always an element of action though, you don't pee into someones cereal through inaction, you've had to have actively done something to get them into a bad situation.

"nakkisuoja" is where you go to hide when someone is trying to "nakittaa" :D it's literally it's counterpart. It's really used in the army when a sergeant is trying to assign shit assignments (nakittaa) and privates try to hide in "nakkisuoja"

To me "ymmärtää yskän" just kinda means " I see what you're saying". For example if a friend is telling me about some small problem they have I could answer "ymmärrän yskän" meaning I understand what the problem is.

Why do I think that when you say "ymmärrän yskän" it means you understant the problem they are trying to explain. "Yskä" is the problem and you understant why its keeping them to do something

Hi Dave ”palaa poroksi” doesn’t mean nor translate to “burn to a reindeer”. The meaning of the Finnish word “poro” (aka puru, jauhe, ) is here ashes, dust (sawdust), powder. So “poro” means either reindeer or powder. Kahvin porot means coffee grounds.

2/5 (muroihin, not muorihin), 4/5, 3,5/5, 5/5, 4,9/5 3/5 (good otherwise, messed up ilosta as iloista), 3/5 (good otherwise, messed up yskä as yksä), 4/5 (good but slow) The nakki-word you're familiar with exists because of the "nakittaa" word. If "to sausage" is to assign chores, then "to hide from sausaging" is of course to avoid being assigned chores.

Itku pitkästä ilosta makes me think of a situation where a child is having fun by being unruly and the parent tells them to stop because they'll end up hurting themselves, but they don't until it inevitably happens and the child burst into tears. At this point the parent goes "I told you so. Now it's a cry from a long fun."

in my house it was "itku pitkästä ilosta, ja pieru kauan nauramisesta" = cry from a long fun, and fart from a long laugh :DDD

Poro means ash. The domesticated reindeer (peura) is also called poro.

Here's a few errors in your pronunciations that I noticed. You said "Muorihin" (in grandma/old woman) instead of "Muroihin" (in cereal), you said "Iloista" (from funs) instead of "ilosta" (from fun), you said "yksä" instead of "yskä".

You could also use "itku pitkästä ilosta" in a slightly more literal sense, for example when little kids run around screaming and laughing until one of them collides with an unmovable object and starts bawling. Nitpicking: I'd think "frankfurter" or "wiener" would be more akin to "nakki" than "sausage". Which you, Dave, know full well is "makkara". Also, when you're handed a chore, you're supposed to dejectedly mutter "noni, nakki napsahti" = "here we go, the frankfurter snapped". Which frankfurters do unless they're "skinless".

Nakittaa and nakkisuoja are both mostly used in the army. It's slang.

From that "burn to a reindeer" thing, its like "how plenty is the bell" translates to "kuinka paljon kello on" wich means "what time is it". Also called google translation. 😃

I have always loved that "pee in one's cerials" because it's so modifiable XD You can just change the last word to fit some kind of context and everyone still understands it. For example in the military it's common to say that somebody peed in someone's "pakki" (which is the box you use to eat from, when you are out on the field). It always works when someone throws another, or worse, the whole team under the bus :P

"Itku pitkästä ilosta", has a good Swedish equivalent ..."efter skratt kommer gråt" (ask you wife :). Also, from the nitpick department, pay a bit more attention to the letter pronunciation, don't add or drop letters...remember phonetic pronunciation rules, nothing is dropped or added. That actually makes Finnish quite easy to pronounce compared to other languages (particularly English).

8:51 *sweating in 1945* D:

"Itku pitkästä ilosta" is kind of cautionary tale of doing fun things that are also dangerous. It's like throwing darts around someone's head and in the end one dart hits an eye. It's not so much about "you shouldn't have too much fun" but about having fun in a safe way. Duudsonit are the example of the fun you shouldn't have according to this saying - loosing fingers while having fun is too much fun.

I've always thought that the proverb: "cry from long fun" refers to little kids having a blast for an hour and then, when getting tired, flipping their shit completely.

Coffee, and eventually even the coffee substitutes, were rationed for _fifteen years_, from 1939 to 1954. I think that period was what gave Finns the "coffee tooth".

Added in proof: snap is knack in german and swedish.. the sound of the trap or the thin sausage being bitten off...- knack--nakki. Finns have difficulty with words beginning with 2 consonants... and also often add vowels to the end...

Hey Dave! Your audio levels are quite low - your channel is the only one I need a speaker to listen to. Ramp up the volume, please!

Nakki is some small and unpleasant extra chore. Nakittaa is the act of giving someone such task. Nakkisuoja, especially in the army, is a hiding spot where you go so that the NCO doesn't see you and will make someone else do the chore.

I usually use the pee into someone's cereal idiom while playing a game. For example I can make a move that benefits me greatly or make someone else's situation conciderably worse aka pee into their cereal.

Probably a bit late, but "luoja" literally means "the creator" in reference to god in Finnish. Think C-3PO saying "Thank the maker!"

This is my favorite series of yours!❤👌

It's definitely more like "burn to coffee grounds" than reindeer

I watched so many of your old videos this morning man! I miss those old ones you going out doing things! I know COVID is a thing but haven’t seen out an about videos for a while dude can’t wait for them to return

It's "kusta jonkun *muroihin"* "kusta jonkun *muorihin"* means "pee in one's grandma"

Have a pun: Tuhkattaessa kuollut hirvi paloi poroksi. When cremated, the dead moose burned into a reindeer. (To cremate in Finnish, tuhkata, is literally "to ash/to turn into ashes")

"Muorihin" sounds like Ostrobothnian dialect of "muori" = granny

Really good videos. And the baby saying beetabi, when seeing Weetabix, how sweet is that

The animations are awesome in this video. You can tell you really enjoyed editing it

2:01 Muro-Cereal Muori-Grandma

In this context: poro = tuhka (ash), karsi (something that's been charred black through burning)

Tässä pari suosikkiani vanhoilta ajoilta 1)Kokeilla kepillä jäätä ( kokeilla kestääkö jää ja kaikki muukin. Tunnustella) 2)Elää veneen alla (elämäntilanne on heikoilla kantimilla. Kaikki omaisuus mennyt) 3)oma maa mansikka, muu maa mustikka. ( kaskiviljelty ja laidunnettu maa ( eli on jonkun muun käytössä) kasvattaa metsämansikoita. Mustikka kasvaa koskemattomassa metsässä jota voitiin kaikkien toimesta ’käyttää’) 4)Hamarapuolella (lyödä hamarapuolella [kirves] on vahingoittamistarkoituksessa mut ei teräpuolella😬) kun on tehnyt pahojaan ja yrittää selittää ettei se niin pahuudella tarkoittanut. 5)Missä voi sulaa. Siinä nahka palaa (kun kuivatat nahkasaappaita ne voivat mennä pilalle siinä lämmössä missä voi sulaa [nuotio/patteri]) 6)Tykin suusta (nopeasti [todellanopeaa]ja paljon miltei mitä vaan) 7)Lähti kuin jänis makuulta ( nopeaa liikettä, mut ei likikään niin kuin tykin suusta) 8)Maitojunalla kotiin ( kun on epäonnistunut etenemään tavoitteissaan ja joutuu palaamaan takaisin)

9:28 Poro is not always meanings reindeer. Kahvinporo (Coffee reindeer) meaning coffee grounds If house burn to reindeer (Talo palaa poroksi) That meanings more like "House burn to ashes.

"Itku pitkästä ilosta" is very clear from just observing kids who have too much fun playing something such as chase, and then someone bumbs into a table, falls down, crashes into another kid etc, and then they all just cry.

As a Finn I've never heard of LKOP. Sounds like someone just took the English saying and translated it. "Pikkulauantai" is something else though : D

2:02 That last word say more like Moroyhin

When burning something "poro" means literally "ash". So nothing to do with reindeers in that context. "Poro" just happens to also mean reindeer. Also "kahvinpurut" is the coffee grounds before you wet them, "kahvinporot" is after you've extracted the coffee from them, coffee dregs. So basically "porot" means "dregs" or "cinder".

Nakittaa is a very common term in the finnish military

Pee in one's cereals is "kusta jonkun MUROIHIN" you said ... Muorihin which can be interpret to .. someone's granny at least on western dialect 🤣

There's a village in Finland called Porokylä because it burned to a reindeer back in the days

Its funny watching this as a fin

I wonder if "nakittaa" is due the chain of sausages. The unpleasant job falls to the one on the bottom of the hierarchy chain.

Great wideo, thank you

We need 'nakkisuoja' against that thing called 'nakittaa'. We go into the shelter to hide the task that boss wants to give us.

I've mostly heard the cereal saying in these sentences: " What's wrong, did someone peed in your cereals this morning? " OR: " What's with everyone's grumpy faces, have I pissed in someone's cereals? " / " Have you pissed in someone's cereals? " ( If you notice someone is treated worse than usual, maybe nakitettu to do something they usually didn't have to do.) It's like stepping on someone's shoes.

When you pee in someone's cereal, it's not just that you ruin something for someone, it's the enjoable act of ruining something that the other person is happy about or is enjoying (maybe even gloating about). Like, imagine they're having their favourite bowl of cereal, are not sharing and are obnoxious about it and you go ahead and just piss in it. Perfection. 👌

Think it can mean 'ashes' as well. Place just outside Nurmes called Porokyla which I believe translates to something like 'ash village'...maybe!!

Did anyone else just have to sing the “Luojan kiitos on perjantai Haistappa laalalalalaalaa”

The contrast on this video is like 98%. Dave, no need to deep fry your videos :D

What a entertaining video

When someone is grumpy/moody, you can ask did someone piss in their cereal. Nakittaa is actually to wiener. Nakki is wiener, sausage is makkara. Nakki napsahti = wiener snapped -> I was nominated to do something (unpleasant).

Nakki does not only translate as sausage. Nakki also means a mouse trap - the most common instsntly killong type.

I think "Burn to a reindeer" is wrongly translated. A word "Poro" has multiple meanings. 1. This animal🦌 2. Ash or powder (For example, used coffee powder is "kahvinporot" on Finnish. Real Translate for "Palaa poroksi" is burn to ashes or burn to powder. 3. There is one meaning more. When sun shines, se say: Aurinko(sun) porottaa. Saying "palaa poroksi" is NOT related to reindeers. Btw i know that because i have lived my whole life in Finland.

"Who pissed in your morning cereal?" -> When someones being grumpy. Thought this was an American saying.

Nakkisuoja is for when you manage to avoid getting Nakitted

MU - ROI - HIN

Pee in one's cereals reminds me of a Swedish one; Peeing into a headwind. Pretty much the same sentiment.

It's interesting that none of these had the word "Sikana" or the appendix "sika-". Sika = pig, but it's like the rad eighties way of saying "cool" "Sika hyvä! “ ="Pig good" = Super good".

Poro doesn't mean reindeer in that context. It is an old word meaning "ash".

Will there be another "trying finnish alcohol" video? I'm pretty sure we'd all love to see one. If you won't it's completely understandable since you're a father and so on but I think it would be a really popular video anyways.

You did not finish that book. You said there was plenty left, but you decided to abandon it. And I had just started watching that live stream on delay when you removed it... would you re-up it for a day or so?

I'm not 100% agreeing with this dictionary. Other people have already critisized the "poroksi" being "to a reindeer" here, and I also think it means "grain" in this case. Also, I think "pissata jonkun muroihin" means "to spoil someone's day", but that is quite a new saying (cereals are rather modern thing). And also, I've only heard of TGIF - this is the first time I encountered this LKOP-translation. ("Luoja" is "(The) Creator", by the way, and can be used in the divine meaning, as well as the creator of something more mundane. "Luoda" is "to create".)

Understand the cough could also be like talk to the hand.

Could someone once again say, that there is a bad translation in word poro. In case that someone hasn´t noticed.

Nobody says LKOP. I had never even seen it as an acronym.

Kyl se siitä viel lähtee tää suomi

"Matti kukkarossa" does not refer to the name Matti but to the chess term "Checkmate" (in Finnish shakki-matti). So, game over (no money in the purse).

Burn to a reindeer.. im not too sure if the ”poroksi” means reindeer there.. to me it remines me about grounded coffee beans

LKOP and TGIF, I have never heard those. 🤔 I´m a Finn. I know YOLO and OMG, but not TGIF. "Palaa poroksi" does not mean reindeer, but "poroksi" means also to dust, to ashes.

Haven't ever heard the "LKOP", but usually it is pretty good day..

I bought a croissant with the taste of salty caramel from lidl the other day, I thought that you probably would like it :)

Whoever made these was obviously some Helsinkian who doesn't actually understand Finnish sayings. For example "Palaa poroksi", "poro" here doesn't mean reindeer, it means ash.

ymmärtää yskä is also kinda "I see your point" especially someone has said something sarcastic

Those sayings are mostly made to tune in with the other words.

The translation for ”palaa poroksi” is dead wrong. I’m pretty damn sure the poro they’re going for is coffee grounds, which coincidentally is the same as reindeer in Finnish.

For some reason finnish people are relateing to british komedy. What is the simalaritity? Could you figure that out?

Poroksi or poroiksi means (burned) to ashes, also used for ground and roasted coffee (it's basically semi-burned). The word poro means reindeer. Unfortunately this clashes with the word poroiksi, since it means 'into reindeers' as well as 'to ashes'. Ps. There are even more awkward translations of palaa poroksi, which are 'turning back into a reindeer' and 'return to the lifestyle of a reindeer'. Yes, it's that bad.

Would love to see atleast one single video like this butr instead of finnish sayings it would be ones used by swedish speaking finns, I don't know a good source for it of the top of my head but Im sure someone else does

Okay, who's here for the "Finnish Savings" they thought they'd read about in the thumbnail??

"Itku pitkästä ilosta, pieru kauan nauramisesta, pierusta lisää iloa ja sitten taas itketään" so the rest of it goes "...fart from laughing too much witch makes you laugh again and that leads to crying"

Thank's 👍🐒

Sairaala = hospital, Sairas = sick, ala = area

These are longest, most confusing explanations, and I was born and grew up in Finland. Never heard most of them???

I never realized how depressing Finnish idioms were until Dave started to react to them. Apparently we are a bit morbid.