For those not in the know, knob is slang for something very naughty in British English, hence her giggling over "Gobbler's Knob." For the Brits, in America knob also denotes a small hill. Thus the reference could also read Gobbler's Hill.
The Groundhog day celebration in Punxsutawney is a real thing, and so is Gobbler's Knob. Prior to 1993, the Groundhog Day event in Punxsutawney attracted crowds of approximately 2,000. The popularity of the film brought significantly more attention to the event, with annual crowds rising to 10,000-20,000. And the must-watch Bill Murray movie is Ghostbusters (1984).
I've read that the event isn't actually in Punxsutawney, but in nearby Gobler's Knob. I guess it would've been weird if they called him Gobler's Knob Phil.
A Groundhog is also called a Woodchuck. It is in the rodent family and they make their burrows undrground. One of, if not the largest in North America, they are small game animals and can be hunted all year long in Pennsylvania because their population is so numerous. They are considered pests by many, especially on horse ranches where their burrow holes can cause a horse to break its leg.
The guy with the gravely voice that translated for the groundhog and MC'ed the bachelor auction is Brian Doyle Murray. He's Bill's brother and appeared in many of Bill's movies.
In the auction scene, you didn't mishear the old woman. She bid "two bits," which means 25 cents. When coins were made of precious metals, sometimes they were scored into eight chunks, like pie-pieces that you could break off if you needed to pay a fractional amount. Since there were eight bits, two of them made a quarter of the whole. Hence, 2 bits = a quarter. It is most famously memorialized in musical form as the final phrase of the advertising jingle "shave and a haircut, two bits."
@@noodle_fc Yes, the "piece of eight" was an entire coin. It was a Spanish silver coin. The same coin was known in other languages variously as a "thaler," "taler," "toliar," "Taler," "taller"... and eventually came into English as a "dollar."
A "gobbler" is a colloquial term for a turkey. A "knob" is a high, rounded hill. "Gobbler's Knob" is the real-life location of the Groundhog Day ceremony. I love that you were so amused by that name. 😆
A groundhog, AKA woodchuck, is large, ground squirrel, part of marmot family. The notion that a groundhog emerging from hibernation can foretell the weather is an old tradition that came from Europe via the Pennsylvania Dutch community. Punxatawny Phil is the most famous of the ceremonial groundhogs. Here's the groundhog dance, from the 1947 Loony Tunes cartoon _One Meat Brawl._ ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-RJizyyUf4L0.html
The "science" behind the notion is that when winter is firmly entrenched then the air is clear and sunny albeit cold. The groundhog sees its shadow. 6 more weeks of winter. When the seasons begin to change, it turns more rainy and the skies are more overcast, no shadow, winter is ending.
The writer of the book said Phil Connors relived the same day for ten thousand years. The movie writers, who reedited the original story say Phil Connors relived the same day for ten years. Imagine how much you'd know in a small town reliving the same day 3650 times in a row.
Gobbler's Knob is an actual place (65 miles from Pittsburgh, Pennssylvania, USA) & in the annual event this morning (2nd Feb) Punxsutawney Phil has revealed his annual weather prediction & there will be six more weeks of winter ! ... great reaction Dawn
@@foljs5858 it's pretty well known (at least now) in America what knob is slang for. I don't think it was well known in America when this came out. I was 18 in 1993 and don't remember if I knew then.
‘What About Bob’ is great. Plus, the doctor’s wife/mom of the family in that movie is played by Julie Haggerty, who Dawn will know as Elaine the stewardess from ‘Airplane!’
Incidentally, Murray at his best is also Murray at his worst as he's a _massive_ douchenuckle in real life. Dreyfuss said his time on that movie was the worst of his career and that he would never work with him again. Great movie, though.
I just helped someone catch a groundhog just a town over from where this was filmed. Groundhogs, also known as woodchucks are a large sciurids, like squirrels and chipmunks. They're mostly solitary, diurnal, and herbivorous but are known to eat some insects and very small animals if it they don't run away. They live in burrows, and often like to burrow under building foundations which can cause foundation damage over time. Some towns keep a groundhog in an enclosure so they can have a party on February 2nd, when they pull the groundhog out, show him to the crowd, and announce 6 more weeks of winter. I have not researched the origins of the holiday. Most people think it's really stupid, so it's a rare event these days. Once in awhile, the groundhog bites the mayor and it's a great laugh for everyone who wasn't there.
Groundhog Day, what a movie! A real event in the real world. A weather-forecasting-animal-event, brought to america by the Pennsylvania dutch (Germans speaking deutsch not dutch like the Netherlanders). In the original it was called "badger Day" (Dachstag). But there were no badgers in Pennsylvania back in the days, so the groundhog got the job.
5:38 A Groundhog is the largest member of the Marmot family. Also known as a woodchuck. Squirrels are also a member of the Marmot family. I once saw a groundhog climb over a six foot wood privacy fence. A friend saw one up in a tree.
As I’ve heard the UK insult “knob-gobbler” and know its connotations, it was indeed hilarious to see you react to that. In all seriousness, though, a “knob” in this instance is a small hill, and a “gobbler” is a turkey (a euphemism derived from its call, which sounds like “gobblegobblegobble”). Gobblers’ Knob would be named for where wild turkeys would congregate.
I went to Gobbler's Knob in 2002. It wasn't in the center of Punxatawny, it was outside town in a field but they did party all night and they did play the Pennsylvania Polka.
Notes: - The Bill Murray Christmas film is probably Scrooged - The word "knob" doesn't have any phallic connotations in America, so that's a case of unintentional hilarity - The Matrix had a rather interesting theory about deja vu...
The non-supernatural explanation of Deja Vu I heard (and think sounds feasible) is that something you see "skips over" the short-term memory part of your brain, and plants itself in the long-term memory part first. So, by the time your short-term memory even registers it, it already seems familiar.
We live about a 30 minute drive south of Punxsutawney Pennsylvania...the 3 old ladies in the car that Phil changes the tire. They always reminded me of my husband's great aunts...he had 3...
The common colloquialism of "Groundhog Day" to refer to a trend of mundane or repeating schedules actually comes from this movie. My retired parents and grandparents used to refer to their days as Groundhog Days, because each one seemed to eerily resemble to previous. Also, the screenwriters estimated that he was stuck in the loop around 30 years or so.
I've always thought that DeJavu was a recovered memory i.e. flashback from a past incident. The movie was filmed near me in Woodstock, Illinois and we celebrate Ground-Hog day every year with a party.
Love that you couldn't stop laughing at Gobbler's Knob. Loved the concept of Groundhog's Day when I first saw it myself, the idea of repeating the same day over and over again. But then you think, how long did Bill Murray stay within that time loop? Weeks? Months? Years? Decades? Might drive anyone insane. Also... Dawn, would suggest to drink some water for that thirst. ;-)
There is a tiny "Gobblers Knob" in Tennessee, I always laugh at the name but long ago it only meant a place where large numbers of wild turkey were found.
Per old German settlers folklore, If the groundhog (woodchuck) emerges and sees its shadow, it will retreat to its den and winter will go on for six more weeks. If it does not see its shadow because of cloudiness, spring will arrive early, still in six weeks. First day of spring relates to the equinox that happens on the 19, 20, or 21 of March, which is 6 weeks away from Feb 2nd. So it's 6 weeks regardless. The vernal equinox is the day where the amount of daylight and nighttime hours in the day are just about of equal length. Happens every spring and fall.
Back in the 70s and 80s there were different social rules regarding kissing on the lips. It is hard to describe exactly those occasions where it was appropriate to those who were not old enough to remember though, but unlike today it did not always mean romantic involvement.
People were largely more physical, tapping on the shoulder, putting an arm around someone, touching a kid's cheek, etc. I have never been one to initiate that, though.
My sister can't stand it when I touch one of her kids the way most normal people did in the 70s. Even my younger 2 yo niece would always scream when I lift her up to put her on my lap as most uncles tend to do. It's like these new rules are ingrained in the fetal stage or something
Dawn, a groundhog is just another animal of the Same family as squirrels only larger. And that celebration is just a tradition, the groundhog doesn’t really show how the weather looks like. Is a celebration of a tradition. Very funny movie do. One of my favorites ❤. I love your channel 🌟🌷
Gobbler's Nob, Gobbler's Nob! 🤣 Love Bill Murray in "Caddyshack", "Tootsie", "Stripes", "What About Bob" and more modern movies like "The Royal Tenenbaums", "Lost In Translation" and "Rushmore". He got famous when he joined the original cast of "Saturday Night Live" which was like the American Monty Pythons in a way, he was fantastic on that show.
Another great reaction, Dawn, I love your joy over "Gobbler's Knob". The Christmas film Bill Murray is in is "Scrooged", he's been in many films, my favourites with him are, "Ghostbusters" 1 & 2, "Lost in Translation", and "Charlie's Angels".
The original scriptwriter envisioned Phil being stuck in the time loop for over 10,000 years but the director says Phil was only stuck in the Time loop for 30- 40 years
You need to watch _My Blue Heaven_ with Steve Martin. Complete different premise, but it has the same kind of feel. Nobody remembers it, but it's very underrated.
Agreed. In my book, the Steve Martin trifecta is My Blue Heaven, Roxanne, and Bowfinger, but there are plenty of movies he's done that are just brilliant and it's worth watching almost all of them.
Love that one. "My Blue Heaven" and "All of Me" (with Lily Tomlin) are two of my favorite Steve Martin films. "Roxanne" is also up there. Another very funny, and very under-rated Steve Martin vehicle is the Christmas film "Mixed Nuts," co-starring Rita Wilson, Madeline Khan, a young Jon Stewart, young Liv Schreiber, young Adam Sandler, etc, etc.
The idea of a day that repeats itself is a close approximation to the concept of reincarnation as the human soul lives not simply one life, but an endless cycle of lives! It is that within this endless term, that an individual soul matures!
Kingpin is an amazing film isn't the landlady from kingpin in this movie I really want to make a v with my fingers and start licking it if you've seen the film then you know the iconic scence
Anyone else find her giggling to "knob" to be ironic considering her mailing address in her profile is "Peterhead"? Dawn, both "peter" and "head" have the same connotation as your "knob". 🤣
@@DawnMarieX Groucho Marx once said (if I remember correctly) that Peter O'Toole was the only actor with a double phallic name. Seems appropriate to mention it here.
Good morning from Mesa Arizona. Bill Murray started on TV in the 1970s on a show called Saturday Night Live. His most famous movie is probably Ghostbusters. Next Christmas I'd recommend reacting to 'Scrooged', a version of A Christmas Carol, and one of his best.
The connection of groundhogs day and repetition started with this movie. My fan theory is that, when given the option to return to Punxsutawney or stay there and freeze, Phil in his stubbornness stayed and froze to death. All that follows is him in his own personal afterlife working out his character flaws until his personal hell is turned to his personal heaven.
Hi, er, travel the highway and freeze to death or turn around and return to Gobbler's Knob. The notion of which he loathed so much he had to consider if it was worse than death. He chose life and pastries in Gobbler's Knob.
It is speculated that the urban legend of seeing your shadow on February 2 meaning six more weeks of winter derives from the common occurrence of what some call "early spring". That is, unseasonably clear and sunny weather in February fooling some into thinking that spring has arrived, followed by the sudden and brutal return of winter weather until the true arrival of spring six weeks later.
"A Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou" is another decent Murray movie that few others are mentioning (or any Wes Anderson flick). Stripes was probably my favorite, growing up, with Meatballs a close second, for a while. He's pretty awesome in Kingpin too.
Bill Murray is hilarious. He often does improvisation in his movies. Harold Ramis (RIP great writer/director/actor) once said when directing for Bill it was best not to worry about the script and just let Bill do whatever he wants to do. An incomplete list of movie recommendations: Caddyshack (side character) Stripes (main character) Ghostbusters 1 & 2 (main character) Meatballs (main character) Little Shop of Horrors (great cameo) Scrooged (modern remake of A Christmas Carol - as Ebenezer Scrooge) What About Bob (main character) The Royal Tenenbaums (side character) The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou (main character) St. Vincent (main character) Lost in Translation (main character)
@@DawnMarieX You got the Gobbler's Knob part right, it is funny every time I hear it, but you were still confused about what a Groundhog is and why it is a holiday so that could use a few more times through the loop
@@GavinWinters Yes but with the improvements to it like at 23:35 and at 23:54 the movie is called Scrooged since it was a remake of the Dickens story of A Christmas Carol
👍👍👍 loved it. The opposite of Deja vu is jamais vu..... I believe it was cobblers knob cobbler is someone who mends shoe's. As opposed to cordwainer is someone who makes shoes. Hope that helps 😄
Some translations for you. A Gobbler is a male turkey or a tom. A "Knob" is a small hill. A groundhog is known by other names. One is a whistle pig. Because sometimes if they are standing still and they don't see you. Then you give off a short whistle. They will stand up on their back legs to see where the whistle came from. Another name is woodchuck. Now here is a little tongue twister. How much wood could a woodchuck chuck. If a woodchuck could chuck wood. He'd chuck all the wood a woodchuck could. If a woodchuck could chuck wood.
Probably still in hybernation. One of the few animals that truly hybernate. They tried to wake the Canadian groundhog..."Fred la Marmotte" unfortunetly he was dead. Bad weather ahead for the Canadians it would seem.
I went to Groundhog Day in Punxsutawney yesterday (for the 5th time). It is a lot of fun. There is a big celebration and thousands of people attend. Phil saw his shadow, so we get 6 more weeks of winter. (When he doesn't see the shadow, we get an early spring.)
What's funny that's had Bill Murray in? Ghostbusters. And Ghostbusters 2. He was also in Scrooged, but that's a Christmas film. And laugh all you want, but I used to live near a place called "Nob End".
24:25 -- Deja Vu is a memory being played out from a previous "loop" and life is telling you to make a different choice or showing you what the right move is or it's a hint of some kind.. You see, we're all "stuck".. When we "die", we just get reset back to an earlier time and the cruel trick is that we don't remember that we've been here before.. So we keep going around and doing the same things over and over and there really isn't an "out".. Only occasional chances to make a change or to do something different.. -- For example, lets say that when you "die", you get reset to when you were 10. Sure, you might have some memories before then, but their only vague and kind of all blend in with each other like a memory soup.. -- Everything that happens, has all happened before, and will happen again..
The idea of the groundhog, an animal also known as a woodchuck, a rodent that's a member of the marmot family, and which hibernates in Winter, able to function as a forecaster of the next 6 weeks' weather, is an old Pennsylvania Dutch tradition that says if he emerges from his burrow on Feb 2 and sees his shadow, that scares him back into his burrow, where he stays warm for the next 6 weeks of cold weather. If he does not see his shadow, he stays out, and the next 6 weeks will be more Spring-like. The shadow itself is the curious part, because one might reason a day bright enough for the groundhog to cast a shadow ought to mean warmer weather on the way, but the groundhog tradition says otherwise. Several reasons have been proposed, including Feb 2 being Candlemas in Europe, which carried the old proverbial warning against undue optimism, "It might be sunny today, but don't get your hopes up." Or another idea is that cloudy weather is the beginning of Spring rains. Whatever the reason for the connection between it being sunny enough for the groundhog to cast a shadow sharp enough to scare it back into its burrow, and the coming of more inclement, wintry weather, that's the tradition as it exists today. He sees his shadow, he's back in the hole, 6 more weeks of Winter. He does not see his shadow, he stays out in the less-than-sunny gloom, and the worst of Winter is over.
hey you, in from baltimore. the way our weather girl explains is; if the sun is out, the groundhog has a shadow. it means that the winter isn't really gone yet and we'll have 6 weeks more winter. if the sun is overcast, there is no shadow and the weather is supposed to change towards spring. it's a crazy superstition, but it isn't like there was real forecasting equipment back then!
"Seeing a shadow" means that it's a sunny day. If weather is getting stormy (i.e., the ground hog does NOT see his shadow) that suggests the weather is breaking -- rain and spring. It if's a sunny day, cold weather is likely not yet abating.
My personal theory about Deja Vu is similar: That it is the recollection of a dream you had(possibly even a prophetic dream) that you forgot when you awoke.
Two comments; First was your joy over Gobbler’s Knob. There’s a small town near me called Knob Noster. I laughed really hard when you said that Groundhogs Day for you is doing the dishes…because that’s exactly what I was doing when you said it. Lol
19:28 this part always makes tears come to my eyes just seeing the smile on pops face when he says the double entendre it's hard down there at the bottom and then how he tries to revive him.
Contrary to popular belief, Phil doesn't actually have to see his shadow; he just has to cast one to make his wintry prophecy. According to the Groundhog Club's records, which span from 1886 to 2017, the various incarnations of Punxsutawney Phil have predicted 107 forecasts of more winter and 18 of early spring.
The mayor at the groundhog festival was played by Bill Murray's brother, Bryan Doyle-Murray. A good Andie MacDowell movie to watch is Bad Girls, a western with an all-female leading cast.
This was filmed in Crystal Lake, a suburb of Chicago, IL - but supposed to reflect Punxsutawney, PA, a real place with a groundhog ceremony/festival as per the film. As the legend goes; If the Groundhog (a woodchuck, really) sees it's shadow on Feb. 2nd, there will be 6 more weeks of Winter - if not, there will be an early Spring. A 'gobbler' is a turkey and a 'knob' is a small hill and a 'groundhog' is a woodchuck, a large burrowing rodent. Murray's better known films are STRIPES, GHOSTBUSTERS, and WHAT ABOUT BOB? - my vote goes for STRIPES, as it was filmed where I also had my Basic Training, and they run past my old front door on the way to graduation.
Canadian groundhog Fred la Marmotte found dead before planned prediction. Status of spring undetermined in northern Quebec after rodent prognosticator discovered dead in burrow during festivities. Looks like a very long winter for the Canadians.
Groundhogs/Woodchucks/Gophers are very common in the US, namely the northeast. I have one of those dopes in my backyard right now that made its home under my shed. He likes to dig at my trash can trying to get at food scraps.
@@glennwisniewski9536 Just to be clear, all that RustyPopcorn said is that they are all common in the US. He didn't say they were the same thing. There are many other rodents that are not groundhogs. Although they all tend to be grouped together as a species, they are in very different subspecies. Technically groundhogs are marmots. They are the largest member of the squirel family .
@@memonk11 I don't rcall having made any comment to you. If I did "lecture" you, I apologize. In the future, please express your recreational outrage elsewhere.
other Bill Murray movies to check out are 1.Caddy Shack 2.Meatballs 3.Ghostbusters 1 & 2 4.Stripes 5.Quick Change 6.What About Bob 7.The Man Who Knew Too Little
Funny Bill Murray movies: Caddyshack, Ghostbusters, Stripes, Meatballs, Kingpin, What About Bob?, Ghostbusters II, Where the Buffalo Roam, Wild Things...(Save "Scrooged" for Christmas)
IMO, this is the best Bill Murray movie, and an excellent film for how well the story was written and told. We rarely get a movie with so many life lessons. Bill Murray has been in a lot of movies, like "Ghostbusters," "Caddyshack," "Meatballs," "Stripes," "The Man Who Knew Too Little," and many more. About 50 some odd movies.
A groundhog is really a large rodent species, native only in America and Canada. The Native Americans used to call it a WUH-chuk, a name that got anglosized into 'woodchuck'. They're kind of a nuisance because they dig holes everywhere, and they'll get into people's gardens.
The rest of it is If he doesn't see his shadow it will be a month and a half until Spring. A month and a half is ALSO 6 weeks. That is the same as saying 6 or half a dozen😉😉👗👗👠👠💓💓 They said it lasted ten years!
Now that you’ve had your first Bill Murray-I’d recommend: Tootsie, Lost in Translation, Stripes & Meatballs (and he plays ‘the badger’ in Fantastic Mr. Fox)
I first saw Bill Murray when he replaced Chevy Chase on Saturday Night Live and all of his movies are funny but his most iconic film aside from Groundhog Day is the 1984 Ghostbusters where he plays a role originally written for John Baluchi who died before the film started production. Dan Ackroyd and a few other SNL alumni are in it too. It's sort of a superhero science fiction monster movie that spawned three or four sequels and a Saturday morning cartoon show.
We do have a similar tradition to Groundhog Day here in the UK. If it rains on Saint Swithun's bridge in Winchester on his feast day (15 July) it will continue to do so for forty days.
