Reacting to HOT TAKES from Music Reddit 

The best part about modern hip hop is the diversity. There's more rap music coming out now than ever and more subgenres than ever before. People who hate on modern hip hop or modern music, in general, have probably only heard a few current artists if they didn't find anyone they liked.

Here’s a hot take NFR has never missed on a video.

I really hope this becomes a series, I would love to see some TikTok/RU-vid comments as well

Referencing that last take, I never understood why some people think you can only like lyrical rap or melodic/mumble/trap rap. Some of my favorite rappers are some of the best wordsmiths ever like Kendrick, black thought, Nas, MF DOOM, but that doesn’t mean I can’t also love listening to Playboi Carti, Travis Scott, and Thugger.

Luca- “It’s too soon to give Kendrick the crown” Also Luca- Biggie with 2 albums is the best rapper of all time.

I think it’s unfair to put someone like Eminem out of a top 10 list because of catalog and still put Biggie in a higher spot when he has such a small catalog comparably. Who knows what Biggie would have been putting out 10,15 or even 20 years after his death? I feel like all have to be judged on their best projects and compared that way.

This definitely needs a part 2

I’m the biggest Kanye fan but I totally agree with the rapping take. When you listen to his verses on his first albums, the world play, the personality, the message, all of it is completely perfect. In his recent stuff sure thematically it’s interesting(in terms of the death of his mother, religion and such) but there’s nothing whatsoever that stands out about his bars! The production is wonderful as always but I feel like he’s losing his way a little bit which pains me because he’s one of the greatest artists of all time imo.

This has to become a series 🔥

My thoughts on every take 1 - I judge artist through consistency, songs, albums, impact/influence, and skill. Eminem is inconsistent, has great songs, solid albums, massive impact, and a lot of skill so i might have him in top 10 but i can see why someone wont 2 - Kendrick is top 5 all time he's amazing in every category 3 - Kanye shows crazy good rapping at moments but it's not something he focuses on a lot of the time 4. Terrible take. People like this priase artist like Lou Reed/The Velvet Underground when they talk about overdosing on herion and prostitutes but god forbid a rapper talks about not being poor anymore. 5 - Half true. Music as a whole is very competitive and that's what makes it fun. 6 - I'm sure this person would love new gen rap if he actual found what he likes as there is so much different types of rap being made in the mainstream and underground. 7 - I hated Thug originally as well can't blame this guy his opinion would probably change after time

In response to the point about Kanye’s singing at 5:04 I’d actually argue that Kanye’s singing being as off key and rough as it is makes it better. Songs like 24 and ghost town wouldn’t hit nearly as much if Kanye’s vocals were completely clean. Whenever he sings i feel like you can hear the soul and emotion in it.

I think hip hop has become the most versatile genre. You can have a raw lyricist built album or you can have a Tyler the creator type album where productions and sounds are a big factor in the music. I don’t see any other genre bending the rules to the extent that hip hop does.

I feel like Hip Hop is mainly rivaled by Folk in dynamic storytelling and overall songwriting ability. Both are not always based on technique of vocal range but mostly the emotional deliver and the way it sets a tone. When highlighted both can bring you somewhere. Hip Hop is a bit more layered with hidden complex themes that are more culturally enriched with insider terms. Folk however feels more closer to a novelist showcasing his sense of surrounding and building to an overall ending like a story whereas hip hop often feels like multiple stories in one song like a book of short stories. When done right both are amazing.

Y’all make great content fr. I’d like to see some expansion from hip hop a little bit but I’m really enjoying this stuff. Keep going.

I love y’all’s videos. It’s the most realistic podcast when it comes to music discussions. It’s like listening to my friends talk about music. Other music channels just try too hard to be as esoteric as possible and it comes across as unnatural sometimes. Y’all are informed enough to have good convo but not so pious to the point where ur content is too exclusive. Much love

My top 10 1- Biggie 2- Nas 3- Eminem 4- Tupac 5- Jay z 6- Kanye 7- Kendrick 8- Rakim 9- Andre 3k 10- Black Thought

Some years back i used to thought the same about rap that it doesn't contains emotions and shit but after listening to so many great records my opinion has 110% changed,and i feel like that the guy who posted on reddit just doesn't have much knowledge and experience of rap music.

Nfr at it again!🔥🔥 Great video need this to be a series!!

Best rap channel by far, your ideas are great fr

1: I would personally put Eminem in my top five favourites and best rappers of all time. That being said with his significant drop in quality recently and a whole host of less mainstream rappers who are equally good I could understand him not being in a top 10 list, at least if it’s not out of fanboying or hate for him. 2: Kendrick is the best modern rapper by far, I could see for why someone would put him in the top 5 and he’s definitely top 10 (15 if you’re being picky) but I wouldn’t agree with anything above number 4. I don’t have a particularly good reason though, just I feel that the top three are still above him for some reason, feel free to prove me wrong. 3: I don’t listen to any of Kanyes stuff, no real reason I’ve just never bothered so I can’t make a judgment. 4: 4ish years ago I kept hearing mumble rap or crap UK drill on BBC radio, and I thought that was the whole genre so I never listened to it but then I heard my dads Jurassic 5 album and was holy shit that’s great what genre is this, looked it up. Hip hop. Listened to all their songs decided I liked it. Eventually got into more and more stuff and here I am with a 53 hour hip hop playlist. So I can understand why this guy thinks that rap is shit, because he’s probably just heard the same shit I heard on the radio and none of the good stuff knowing it was hip hop. 5: I agree that people take it way to far in the competitive stuff ( that’s right I’m looking at you Eminem fanboys) but if it’s just oh I prefer x rapper for this reason and it’s just a friendly debate or a serious objective talk that can be really fun, and, like you say, almost like a sport. 6: I can heavily relate to the modern rap stuff, I’m very picky with new stuff, i litterally only listen to KL, J Cole, Lil Simz, Denzel curry and a small bit of lil Wayne from the new gen but LOADS of older stuff, it’s just a matter of preference. 7: Don’t listen to any of thugs stuff so I can’t comment.

“How could you define hip-hop as something that’s derived of any intelligence?”(05:58) 😂

When Kendrick did the “control” verse, hip hop definitely became competitive

That third take on r/changemyview is definitely Ben Shapiro's dad who dropped from music school.

As a rap and a rock fan, the '2 minute solo argument' hurt me.

Em and Ye both proved everything they need to already. Yet em receives so much hate for flexing his bars these days But Ye has been rapping trash for the past 5 years nobody says anything bc the production is good

I really don't get why we always shit on Eminem and force him to constantly prove himself, when people like Biggie and 2pac barely put out enough albums to be considered the greatest of all times, while Eminem has put out 3 of the greatest albums of all time and released enough music for multiple lifetimes.

Whoever is the creative director of NFR PODCAST needs a raise....NFR is the future of hiphop reviews for the culture...no phonies...no fakes...no misses...no skips

I FVCKIN LOVE HOW FIERCELY PROTECTIVE LOU & ANT ARE OF OUR CULTURE! #NFRPODCAST #NOSKIPS #NOMISSES

How this channel doesnt have a milly subs is beyond me. Great content, yall are crushing.

Really loved this. Should definitely make this a series.

Can we make this a regula thing. I really like how y’all break down the arguments and give a reasonable explanation

Saying ‘Modern Rap’ and throwing it all in one big box is crazy to me. In the 90s rap music was fairly new and was strictly bars over beats and it took slow baby steps to even get to that point from where it began in the 70s, because it was brand new and the internet that we have today wasn’t a thing. Obviously when the internet did start coming into play hip-hop began to evolve at a much quicker rate. Hip-Hop evolves year after year. Sometimes it seems like all it takes is one big moment to shift the culture. It can all happen so fast now. It’s crazy to me when people say they only like rap music that came out of the 90s… 30 years later it’s become so big that there are sub genres within the hip-hop umbrella. At the end of the day you simply just need to know what you’re looking for because it’s all out there. It’s just on you to find it. For me I listen to the spitters. Tbh I think it’s as good as it’s ever been if not better in my personal opinion. I don’t fuck with the Carti’s, Uzi’s, Yachty, Trippie etc. but I think it’s super dope that all of that exists for the people who actually do love that. If you don’t like a certain type of hip-hop then that’s fine cause there are so many other sections of the genre that you can explore.

Best format yet!

Video idea : tier list of 2010s albums .....please like so they can see!

You guys should do a video comparing both of yours top 10

The regular human to oldhead pipeline seems inescapable 😔

That top 10 list was actually by me! But it’s an older list so let me just show you guys the changes real quick with a top 15. THANK YOU 1. Andre 3000 2. Kendrick Lamar 3. Kanye 4. Jay-Z 5. NaS 6. Black Thought 7. Ghostface Killah 8. Lupe Fiasco 9. Biggie 10. MF DOOM 11. Eminem 12. 2Pac 13. Scarface 14. Freddie Gibbs 15. Common HM: Rakim

5:24 If you asked me about my opinion on rap and hip hop 6 months ago, I would’ve agreed with this take. But after exposing myself to hip hop and rap that I now love, I feel like my music taste has expanded. To that person with that steamy take I say listen to To Pimp A Butterfly and say with a straight face that it’s irrelevant and has no variety of sounds.

thug is the best vocalist

You lot NEED to replay the best song off vultures 2, the bad ones hide the hidden jems. 530, take off your dress, RIVER, TIME MOVING SLOW - I even got hyped up by BOMB when i watched it getting played live on youtube with yuno miles (sadly retired) like its quite fun and bouncy. Idc what people say, i havent even heard half the songs off the album but the ones i have heard, ive enjoyed.

When kanye wants too he can most definitely bust out an amazing verse. Wouldn’t leave is still one of his best verses oat imo

the only reason that guy said rap doesn't have musical elements, no tones, and is about bitches and hoes is because: *drumroll* they clearly have only listened to one playboi carti song 💀

Have y’all heard his verse on city of gods tho??? He snapped, Ye just does what he wants when he wants like a lot of other artists.

My reactions: 1. False 2. Abstain - I’m not much of a classic rap fan, but very respectable take. 3. True 4. False (obviously) - Except the part about b*tches and h*es (and other lyrics with negative messages). 5. True - It should all be in good fun, not a personal attack on someone, which is too common. 6. True 7. True

why is lil wayne not in there he has done so much for the industry

when the person said rap isn’t worth listening to i think they were leaning more towards trap

Fantastic episode… you guys are so entertaining to listen to

brooklynbluenotes is absolutely right. I have never in my life seen a more ranking based genre. Everyone compares everyone, sales, lyrically and people that aint even trying to do the same. It can bring out the best in artists though, i think their is a good side to it too.

Listening from South Africa keep up the good vids 🙏‼️

Eminem is definitely a top 5 rapper of all time

top 10 hh artists: 1) Mac Miller 2) Kanye 3) MF DOOM 4) Kendrick 5) Jay-Z 6) Andre 3000 7) Earl 8) Black Thought 9) Pac 10) Peggy

I want to see more of these, I Love hot take videos, there always very interesting

1. Biggie 2. Nas 3. Jay 4. Pac 5. Kendrick 6. Kanye 7. 3K 8. Cube 9. Dre 10. Eazy

You’re not the ignorant ones. You guys are on point

Worst realistic take was obviously Kanye’s lyricism lmao, he’s always been on top of production and lifting other artists

9:30 - in reference to your point about hip-hop not really having another genre that weighs as "competitive" or "analyzed," I would counter-argue (respectfully of course) that the mentality is also apparent in a lot of metal circles - debating topics like whether or not 60s and 70s hard rock count as metal, when Metallica fell off, the relevance of volume or output when it comes to live shows, and more, are all discussions you'll see repeated on a wide number of metal music forums.

I LOVE THESE TYPE VIDS

Addressing the “hip hop fans are obsessed with tier lists” I think this is a stupid take, not because it’s extremely false but because it isn’t saying anything, like what are they even arguing? That music isn’t a competition, but that’s not necessarily what making tier lists is about, it’s more about providing your opinion and talking about what you like and asking the community to talk about what they like. Isn’t that how music conversation goes? People talking about their opinions on it? Idk it seems like a really stupid thing to say, like most fans from different genres like to hear what others think about music, it’s just conversation

I think many people who don‘t feel modern rap fits the standards of old hip hop, when you think of old hip hop you think of Tupac and Biggie and Jay Z. Now you may think of mainstream rappers or pop rap such as Lil Mosey or Lil Baby, etc. instead of thinking about Kendrick, Cole, JID, Denzel, Saba, etc. These takes are just not educated.

Good shiiit boiisss. big ups. big smoke cali love

I love how I have a different music taste than you but I still agree everything what you say

Is it just more or do I like it when artists who can't sing, sing? It just feels so soulfull and personalised.

im not sure about the take on biggie,, you say kendrick is not at the end of his career but biggie literally dropped what 2 albums and unfortunatley passed so how does that merit being above kdot who i belive has put 4 classic albums all imo better than biggies

Please more long form content I do not care what you guys talk about but please more I love it

Music is about creating an emotional connection. Any genre can do it, not every artist can.

Best rap discussion content I’ve seen! Keep it up!

1. Jay-Z 2. Nas 3. 2Pac 4.Kanye West 5. Notorious B.I.G 6.Kendrick Lamar 7.Black Thought 8. Drake 9.Scarface 10. Eminem. I tried making a list not including Eminem. And you can’t. Though I don’t think he is a top 5 of all time. But he has to be included in the top 10. The names start to get thin when you get down to 10

In my opinion no one should be questioning modern rap. While storytelling isn’t as prevalent as it used to be, the rap game has only gotten more and more diverse and experimental, and nowadays I feel that in general rappers focus on every part of the song, as opposed to just honing In on lyricism

Black thought top 3. Best lyricist of all time

NFR never misses

I think swearing in rap just sometimes makes a point and makes it more emotional

this needs to be series tf

Listen to off the grid from Donda. He’s still got it in terms of rapping ability

The fact that they are trying to make argument for Eminem not being the top 10 is just crazy to me

here's a hot take for u guys. I hope someone replies because I would acc love to have a talk abt thus take. I think eazy e was the best member of nwa. ik cube wrote most of the songs but I think eazys rapping ability was off the charts and he was the face of the franchise yk. he has the most recognizable voice in hip hop history and is the godfather of ganster rap.

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That top 10 in the first few minutes was super duper solid

that guy who said he hates rap clearly has barely heard many rap songs at all

I think there are two ways to make a great track: be in innovative under the content pov, be innovative under the form pov. Usually we don't have just one of them, it's a sort of mix BUT in Young Thug case I can understand the lack of content in many cases but he's been such an innovation in the rap scenario that it's the form that has become the content itself. I dunno if I explicited my idea in the best way but I tried my best :)

The "don't like rap" guy is just regurgitating Ben Shapiro

Young Thug fans, please stop saying "bUt He'S wOrKiNg WiTh ELtOn jOhN tHo". Most people who say this can't name 2 Elton John songs to save their life.

I don’t understand the logic that you got to wait on Kendrick like he has not done enough already with 4 albums but yet your number 1 of all time is biggie who only had 1 album out the day he died . Can someone please make some sense of this logic ???

It would be great to see you guys do an « overrated/ over hated » chart with rappers

"Rap music is just about Girls and Drugs" Led Zeppelin: Baby Baby im gonna give ya my love, Shake for me girl, i wanna be your backdoor man, Hey oh hey oh hey oh hey oh hey oh OHHHHHHHHHHH. Keep it coolin baby, keep it coolin baby

People who say that rap isn't worth listening too only like 70s-80s rock and have only heard rappers that purchased the "mid-rapper starter pack (only raps about money, bitches, and drugs)" They need some Kanye and Kendrick in their lives

idk what anthony was talking about when he said everybody who trys to copy thugs sound falls flat when lil keed can clone that sound basically perfectly on snake

When Lu says nobody’s fw Eminem lyrically what does he mean? That in itself is a bad take.

Amazing video as always boys!!!

There should be always debate in hiphops cause at the end of the we take one artist and feel proud for them

I can understand finding thuggers voice annoying, he’s definitely super unique and talented but I just can’t enjoy the really high pitched tones personally

1. Jay-Z 2. Lil Wayne No order Kanye & Drake Andre, Eminem, Kendrick Biggie Nas & Cole Pac & DMX Snoop Dogg - top 13

Young Thug might have the most unique development arc in hip-hop history. Possibly the most versatile modern rapper. And he is insanely influential… Wayne is more influential, Sosa might be more influential but who else has been more influential than Thugger over the last 20 years???

Bro please do this again. I'm sat here captivated, with a bowl of cereal, just agreeing with everything said.

Love the topic! 🙌🏾

Em's top 10 still. I would say after MMLP2 he was top 5, his catalog was just that good at that point and obviously his lyricism is unmatched. But because of his recent releases i'd say he's fallen to that bottom half of th top 10. But there's no way he's not top 10

Kendrick being number 1 makes sense

The issue with the statement 90’s rap is better” coming from people who didn’t grow up in the 90’s (and this is just my perspective) is that the comparison is unfair. Nowadays you are always exposed to the popular, mainstream shit like trap music which just may not resonate with you, whereas because you didn’t grow up in the 90’s you have the option to completely ignore the existence of bad rappers from that time that were popular (bird man, insane clown posse, vanilla ice to name a few) and only listen to all time classics and greats. There are plenty of artists nowadays and plenty of albums today that will one day be looked at the same way things like ready to die are looked at. But it’s far easier to listen to classics and say you like old school rap compared to todays “trash” when we have artists and albums this century that rival the quality of a lot of albums and artists that were about in the 90’s.

How can he say that you can't put Kendrick number 1 because he's not at the end of his career? Kendrick has a bigger and better catalogue than BIG and Pac

awesome video would love to see a part 2

ya'll better listen to the kid laroi's stuff if your gonna listen to Post, Drake, Kanye and call that rap... respect that TKL is the next rap (pop) star on the planet rn!