Reacting to KC voice comms 

Targamas walking into 4 people and inting without saying a single word should be evidence of wintrading imo

watching targamas not tank with the comms might have been one of the most painful things I've witnessed

Feel like half of these coms was just Bo saying "I want to do X" his team doing the opposite and then him just saying "it's fine".

Something you see so often is that Bo 100% goes on someones call, the moment someone says go in Bo is straight on it, where as Targa/Cabo/Saken always hesitate or do the opposite, which so often ends up in it looking like Bo is inting. Key example is that G2 game, as soon as Upset says dive and steps up Bo flash ults to follow the call, meanwhile Cabo is doing who the fk knows what over the wall and Targ is already running away.

targamas said “yeah i tank” two times and then he didn’t AAAAAAAAA

Unironically it just sounds like upset and bo are on the same page alot but any olay with targamas is just mesed up by targ not being on that same page.

Not that any of them are playing well, but Targamas in particular has just been brutal. Like, what can you even point to as a strength for him anymore?

It feels like Upset is basically being force to take up the shotcalling roll which he seem to not be very comfortable doing.

Nah you can't convince me that Upset's "Unlucky" after that bot dive isn't sarcastic towards Targamas. He literally said Millo tank 3 times. 😂

Upset and Bo are the only ones actually communicating. Upset is asking very good questions and no one is answering.

Dude I feel bad for Bo. Yea he is overhyped and has serious flaws but he is clearly a skilled player who wants to win. I hope this doesn't ruin his career

It's so crazy that flakked turned out to be the good player out of the G2 bot lane. Not a crazy adc but someone who is willing to play anything to win and isn't a crazy liability.

Changing support seems an easy upgrade.

i cannot believe Jankos and G2 coaching staff ....made Flakked/Targa look that dominant in G2. It is actually so insane that they were dominant with that team

Bo is getting trolled lol

Seeing a support be this silent in comms is unacceptable honestly. Like the role, by nature, involves tons of communicating so if you are just on mute the whole time then what are you even doing?

I think this region legitimately made Bo worse. These top CN/KR players push their champions to their utmost limits. I'm betting his teammates just never believe and can't execute plays he sees properly repeatedly to the point where he can't reach those heights of gameplay anymore

you can legit mute Targamas at the start of a game and you wouldnt see a difference at all

Is it me or does Targamas refuse to communicate? he speak like 5 time the entire video.

Im not saying Bo is as good as hyli was a few years ago but something tells me that they need the same sort of team. When upset and rekkles 100% trusted hyli, he was unstoppable. I would love to see Bo in the same situation

Targamas bot dive where he doesn't take aggro and the silent Ashe 1v4 play top look like legit win trading.

8:48 Bo and Upset is fucking Buddha after that play lmao.

19:47 Perfect example of a failure in communication. In the recent C9 voice comms video, Mithy tells them “most importantly, if we’re making a play and we don’t call it off, commit to the play.” Targamas should have been communicating his intent, but Bo and Saken are both calling that they want to make a play top. Targamas goes in solo way too early, but I think they all hold some responsibility here. Their comms/calls are just so dysfunctional, I’m not surprised by the 0-6

After watching the comms I'm completely sure that even with Cabo and Saken this team could work, but not with TargamASS. This guy needs to never play pro LoL again, how Upset has concentration to fight, farm, track the map and shotcall is beyond me. Considering that Trymbi is jobless this split, this is fucking criminal

Brilliant callout by Targamas: teleport/ignite akali has no flash. Then Dom wonders why he doesn't say anything. It's legit more useful for him to just stay quiet rather than saying stupid shit like that.

And the narrative was that flakked was the problem on that G2 botlane 💀

so is targamas just a silent ai or what

Targamas is just the silent sprinter

Targamas should legit be investigated for matchfixing by this point. That bot dive looked bad live but now with the comms it just can't be a missplay. He was told to just tank 3 times, said he would do it and then attacked the turret instead of the champion, making Bo go in and die. Honestly I would have no problem with Bo and Upset just standing up to and slapping him right in that moment. Also how is noone telling Saken to speak English and not mumble some French bullshit in the middle of a play? Are they so untouchable in KC that noone will set them straight? I mean KC even releasing these comms would say different because of how dooming it is for the 3 wannabe LEC players they kept from the old roster but still..

that play at 17:30 look at cabo. brother is full hp and he doesnt even try to help them like blocking the naut hook or in general frontline so they can back off he just turns around and starts recalling

I think this made me think slightly better of Cabo, he seems like he is trying to do what Upset/Bo are asking him to do for the most part, the bad is just what Dom said, his laning is bad. Targamas on the other hand... bro what is wrong with this guy, he says nothing (in fact, it's actually worse than that, when he does speak he's saying things that he ultimately isn't doing! "I can tank!"). I get that he speaks French but I feel like they need to do something with support if they want a chance to win any games. They might be able to work around the weak solo lanes but not with bot getting sandbagged as well

He said "BO, BO, WHAT ARE YOU DOING? (meaning bo is cracked) BO BO, THIS IS KC!"

Saw this in my YT feed and was wondering why I can't find it on the main channel Was surprised considering it's 30 min long

Maybe Targamas isnt talking because he wants his comms icon to be as gray as his screen

Can't wait for the banger gameweek 2 voicecomms

This Tarmagas might int on purpose abit, i remember him playing on Excel and he just let Patrik die 1v2 staying a mile from him, the bot lanes were lost at lv 1 becuause they just went in 2v1 while Taregamas just watched

Ironically they should go get rekkles, honestly would be a massive upgrade over targamas

"Guys help me maybe; ok..." is something you'd expect from a team on a 15 game lose streak, not week 1 comms...

Come one guys, don't be so harsh on Targamus, he forgot to unmute his mic 😂

I take back what I’ve said about Upset before. Its clear that he and Bo are the only people trying here, or at least trying to make plays. Targ is useless, and I don’t think Saken is LEC ready. It’s extra impressive how poorly this team gels, because LEC as a whole right now seems VERY weak.

My guess is targamas soundbytes were deleted

Can we get a targa G2 voicecomms vs KC short analysis ?

IN G2 caps and jankos said he was very opioned seems they shut him down completly

As a born mute i can relate to Targamas!

If they replace targamas and cabo they have potential.

After hearing this, just -targamas +trymbi/kamilius/limit might fix the entire team

On the mid dive, malphite is clearing a word then leaving to splitpush. Just vi ult into malphite ult the aphel! Malphite ulted away after his team died!

I used to question a lot why Targamas got kicked out of G2, and even before the start of this split (I didnt watch ERL's) I couldnt understand, but man, the use of spells, not being able to do what the team asks him to do, refuse to be useful when the situation needs him to be is just too much, I hope Karmine talks with Trimby or Treatz to get Upset a good support cause my God this was painful to watch

lmao you can see pings on the minimap when he's doing the ashe int maybe he thinks he's in solo q?

Bring Trymbi in to get these clowns in order 😂

I don't think they looked terrible first week, but second week they were looking completly lost. I rather see this team trying to full send it trusting on Bo calls rather than doing nothing and lose.

this is Vitality all over again, so sad for Yamato and Bo, unfortunate for Upset

they may only need to wins but i dont see a world in which they beat either SK or BDS

lol he talked at the start of the video

Targamas have to wintrade here

this team looks alright with targamas replaced

On a serious note targamas is doing his very best to have all his teammates lose faith in him which as the 'support' of the team, is not exactly ideal.

Top and Supp should change ASAP at Kcorp

Saying 'no flash akali' when akali has tp ignite should be illegal. Give his job to someone who actually pays attention to the game.

I miss the yamato hello gentleman 🥲

Honestly Bo is making good calls, Keep Bo, get Trimby. Trimby will synergise well with Bo and follow his calls. Targamas is just slow in the head.

Just put Trymbi on this team and they might have a shot at playoffs next split man

Bo...Saken and Targamas. I don't know what they were expecting to happen there

2:30 how they didn't win that figth? idk maybe because the adc throw himself into mele with a Xin Zhao and an Akali without vision?

This is literally like my clash teams. It’s just me and one other guy permanently doing all the shotcalling, and we’re usually the bot support. Miserable.

shanghai dragons in a nutshell

7:03 im dead🤣🤣🤣

AHH THIS IS SO BAD KNOWING THE TRAGEDY AFTER THE OPTIMISM

Keep upset and Bo. The rest can go 😂

Bo saying ''neeko neeko'' to saken 15:57 💀💀

targamas should've backed to help stop the end, might have not made a difference but he was useless at barron.

"let's have a good time" despair

as long as upset is forced to shotcall because he doesn’t have supports like hyli making their own plays he won’t succeed. Doesn’t even have to be him. He needs a shot calling support in terms of making things happen. It’s been proven time and time again. Adc is a role players play their best when they can focus on mechanics. Any adc in history that is a shot caller is an exception. Doublelift for example doesn’t count because whenever he’s successful he’s never been the sole veteran player capable of closing out the game. Adcs can shotcall when they have the damage to carry, but until you reach that stage it’s a hindrance to expect your adc to shot call in order to get to that point.

Targamas' lack of communication is astonishing, he does not call a single arrow even, his team has no idea he is looking, and his mechanics are poor. Also in the G2 game like we're sieging mid and Upset calls to dive and Cabo is just standing over the wall looking????? Like if he just groups with his team at least he can block Naut Q and open up space for Upset or look for a dive or a chunk, what was the point of standing so far back in that play he did nothing

Nah Targamas HAS to be bud light aced man what is thisssssssssss

15:57 ayo what did bo just call saken?? (joke obvs)

you can't be serious after hearing these comms saying bo is the problem lmao, targamas basically is playing on deafen he doesn't talk and he doesn't play good like how tf is this guy in lec lmao I can't bro

bing chilling

This is so painful to watch it’s like they aren’t on the same page about a single play

Kick Sucken, Cabosuck, and Suckgamas lmao

Nerves and stuff can effect decision making and performance.I also feel like people are blowing this out of proportion lol.

23:23 XD

Compare to any Korean or Chinese team and comms and plays will be much better

it feels like Upset is the only one willing to be like "Hey, what's the plan, do we turn/trap/chase... ?" and the rest are waiting for someone else to make the call. Bo is the only one making calls, but he doesnt do the follow up to that call. They dont try to have the team aligned on it, and what to do when they are contested on that call. You can tell all that when they go for barons and dragons. 14:57 this time, atleast Targamas says "doesnt matter, we have to do baron" telling him what to do, but the people defending are still afraid of making decisions or answering in case they are wrong or something? 16:20 the build up to this call was "we have to get baron to win", "LB is dead we have to make something happen, dive them on the spot" and as they run down mid 10 seconds before the dive "we have to dive them" and yet they were all doing something else with no comunication, no one pulled out of the call or decision. And Bo did what had to be done and force to try and win on Upset's call, it's better to follow a bad call as 5 than to have 2 people commit to a good call. They have to dive there or lose the moment LB is up. 20:30 compare that to Hily as maniacal as he is, you know exactly he is walking 1v5 and talks you into letting him int for pressure or something because he is "looking, You know what he is doing and wants to do.

Imagine if they had Nisqy Trymbi instead of Saken Targamas

Upset is analyzing the game too much for an ADC. Bro is having an identity crisis and it shows in his gameplay. His spacing sucks and prone to random inting. But I guess he has to. His support barely says what to do.

Trymbi out there without a job btw

Cannot understand them at all

Targamas talks more than people are are giving him credit for though. Like, ofc he should say more but people are making it out to be like he hasnt said a single word. Also they shouldnt speak french, since two of them dont speak it. Bo reminds me of Trymbi when he started playing, he kept yelling out waaay too much and being too over hyped.

Hey guys, I understand the criticism on Targamas and on saken as well, but honestly after week 2 I think Cabo isnt that bad

Akali no ult no flash

Funny how the 3 that are together in KC the longest are the ones who aren't communicating well enough.

Man just sign Trymbi...

Guys wanna hear something funny? Targamas has an LEC spot and Rekkles doesnt

Bo was smurfing in lpl he will be ruined by this team if he isn’t careful

no come from a professional player is crazy

Upset and Bo are being griefed on this roster. Get them out.

Its just a mess. My semi pro amateur team from 4 years ago had better communication and teamwork

Targamas clearly one of the major issues, dude was hired to take Yamato down

Targamas is so trash how was that fraud on G2