Reacting to Making the Case - Tim Duncan 

That’s honestly so crazy. Duncan is one of the greatest players of all time and we often forget about how dominant he was

While this is true, Duncan also missed two layups with a chance to tie game 7 with 50 seconds left while being guarded by Shane Battier who was 4 inches shorter than him.

@@LanceJ. I remember that. Battier's defense was incredible.

@@louisrosenberg8042 Sure. But his defense had nothing to do with Duncan blowing the layups. Duncan got the rebound after his first miss and just had to tip the ball in, something he was better at than pretty much anyone in the NBA. And Pop took Duncan out of the lineup, which made it possible for Bosh to grab the rebound and pass it to Allen for the three. Bosh wouldn’t have gotten that rebound with Timmy on the court.

I was so devastated that game. I was just sitting by myself after, drinking the bottle of wine I thought I'd be drinking in celebration.

From 99-2003 Shaq and Duncan were also the 2 best players in the league. Kevin Garnett got closer across that time and in 2004 I think it was more KG/Duncan than Shaq.

Kobe and Duncan own 10 of the 16 titles between 1999-2014 GREATNESS

I hated Kobe and the Lakers growing up. Rip😥

If Tim hadn't been injured in 2000, I believe the spurs would have beaten them again for the repeat. Kobe and Shaq were at the breaking point, and that would have resulted in one of them being traded (probably Kobe at that time). Would have changed EVERYTHING. How many titles would Tim have? But it didn't happen... interesting to think about.

@@davidphillips9140 10 out of 16 titles and 13 out of 16 appearances in the finals between 1999-2014. They were just dominant. Crazy doe.

Probably my favorite one. Gave me chills

Gotta do that one next!

Yup, both are easily locks

This video went overboard in arguing for Tim by diminishing Manu Ginobili and Tony Parker; unjustly so. Manu from 2005-2008 was an all nba caliber player every season, and in discussion as one of the 15 or 10 best players in the game. He wasn't getting that much adulation, but most people hated or didn't care about the Spurs. They turned the Finals off when they were in it. I think Manu did crack into the top 10 player finally in 07-08. He was injured the 2008 playoffs and never reached that same level again, missing a lot lot of 2009, but bounced back in 09-10 and 10-11 with 2 more fringe all nba level seasons. Tony was never as good as Manu, but still had multiple all star level seasons where he was one of the top ~20 or so players in the league, and 08-09 12-13 he got close to top 10 as well. Tony was an all star caliber player from 05/06-08/09 and 10/11-13/14. It doesn't reflect bad on Tim that he had 2 all star level teammates from 2006-2008. Manu even led the league in adjusted plus minus a couple times from 05-08. Tim's teams were frankly loaded from 2005-2007, and 2012-2016. Tim's best seasons are from 97-07 though. Those seasons are 80-90% of why he is a top 10 player of all time. His best 2 seasons, 2002 and 2003, were 2 of the worst teams he ever had. It's just lazy to try to downplay Tony and Manu to talk up Tim. Tim Duncan is still a top 10 player all time. I don't think he has a real case as the best player ever, but neither does Kobe/Bird/Magic/Wilt/KG/Shaq/Hakeem in my opinion.

On this specific video he went into the comment section and corrected himself. He even said that he wasn't sure why he said that but knew it was wrong after he made the video

@@dawsonp3314 oh ok that makes sense because usually he’s spot on

The basketball Hall of Fame also considers your collegiate and international accomplishments, so both should be locks. The basketball Hall of Fame is one of the easier Hall of Fames to get into.

He might end up coaching tho :) him or becky

And his American Express commercial.

I respected Hakeem, but didn't watch ESPN for months after the 95 WCF. I HATED Sam Cassell tho

That's some bullshit. Parker is an elite point guard that would do well in any franchise and Ginobili could have had way higher stats on any other team. If anything, he sacrificed a lot by playing on the bench and being on the Spurs. The Spurs is like the antithesis of the Nash Suns and the "stars" of today with padded stats due to the fast pace.

I didn't agree with that. But they wouldn't be without Tim Duncan. If either one of them was the face of the franchise. That franchise wouldn't be very good

That was one of the first basketball vids he watched.

Kobe Bryant and M.J. didn't block shots on a regular basis and Kg in general wasn't as good as an all-around player as tim duncan

@@TonyG4206 Kg was a better passer, and scoring and defense was close in there primes

​@@TonyG4206 MJ stole the ball on q regular basis whole blocking shots better than any other guard. While scoring 30. MJ is definitely a better 2 way than Duncan.

Sorry I am 1 hour late

I don’t think he has

@@kurtwagner350 It’s easy to say now, but the fact he was one superstar perk away from potentially signing would suggest different

@@DP_1605 I meant I’m not sure Luka knows that story as a response to you saying “I’m sure we’ve all heard”

@@kurtwagner350 Oh yeah, your right

​@@DP_1605 Bill Russell isn't selfless. He's. It a good offensive player. He wouldn't be able to outplay Cousy, Sam Jones, or Havlicek even if he wanted to. His strength was defense.

Well unlike Parker and Ginobolli. There was a case for Tmac being a top 3 or 4 player in the league. Can't say the same for Parker or Ginobolli

Tie

Manu and Tony would never believe that though. They were a real team built around Duncan. Duncan wouldn't claim he is the best either. They were true winners not glory chasers.

@@panner11 Yes that’s why they were an elite team, but I don’t like how this guy was downplaying the other members of the spurs

Outperformed him in box scores, but when you look at the teams offensive and defensive ratings with Duncan off the court and on the court, you would see clearly just how much Duncan would effect all of those pkayers performances. Who was the person setting solid screens allowing Parker, Ginobili, Kawhi, to wreak havoc and forcing defensive switches? That would be Duncan. Who would occupy the shot blockers when those three guys attacked the rim? Duncan. There is more to the game than just looking at stats.

Shaq in his prime would have a case for goat but I don’t think he does for the totality of his career but he had one of the best primes

@@alexarmstrong4036 Yeah I agree, but he said at nowhere in shaqs career was he close to Tim defensively when that just isn’t true.

I think his reasons was Duncan’s ability to defend 3 positions from post to perimeter Why Shaq could only defend down load why that’s more of a difference of position Duncan definitely could do more for the over all defense

Tim Duncan was in the top 5 of both MVP AND DPOY 6 times in his career. Only MJ at 7 tops him. Shaq isn't even close.