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Reaction - Canada's Titanic, the Tragic Sinking of the RMS Empress of Ireland 

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Please join me as we look into this overlooked, yet important event in Canadian history - the sinking of CPR's ocean liner the RMS Empress of Ireland in the St. Lawrence River in 1914.
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@mmorrison9176
@mmorrison9176 3 месяца назад
From a Canadian cousin.. Respect and love for the work you do here brother! 👍🍻🇨🇦❤
@johnf-americanreacts1287
@johnf-americanreacts1287 3 месяца назад
Thanks so much. 😊🍻
@beccasmama63
@beccasmama63 3 месяца назад
I am Canadian and 60 years young and I don't remember ever learning about this. Thank you for sharing.
@colinmacvicar2507
@colinmacvicar2507 3 месяца назад
The St. Lawrence river is so big that in World War II Germany had U-boats patrolling in river as far up as Quebec City, sinking 23 ships in what was know as The Battle of the St. Lawrence.
@johnf-americanreacts1287
@johnf-americanreacts1287 3 месяца назад
Wow, I’ll need to look into that.
@deborahhennessey
@deborahhennessey 3 месяца назад
@@johnf-americanreacts1287 My Uncle joined the war effort the moment Canada entered it in September 1939 and he was RCAF, flying amphibious Canso's and Avro Lancaster bombers, looking for German subs. and U-boats, mostly overseas, and I've a lifetime of stories from my earliest of memories. I had him until 2007, and I remember standing in their 23rd floor condo. in Halifax, overlooking the Northumberland Strait one afternoon, and my Uncle casually told me there were U-boats all the way up the St. Lawrence. I was so aghast I forgot to ask more about it. But it's true from first-hand experience.
@Lavolanges
@Lavolanges 3 месяца назад
They also dropped off at least one spy on the Gaspé Peninsula. In 1942, Werner von Janowski was dropped off near New Carlisle, Que. He walked to a local hotel where everything about him set off alarm bells with the receptionist: the ancient money he used, the lie about just arriving by bus when the only bus was not due for hours, his accent, lighting his cigarette with Belgian matches, and, not least, his smell. RCMP were called and it wasn't long before he was captured. On the capture, the story varies. I've read he'd managed to get aboard the train to Montreal and was intercepted then, but other accounts make it seem that he was arrested in the small town. My dad had told me about him and the money aspect, and I saw a display about him at the RCMP museum at Depot in Regina many years ago
@floyd2222
@floyd2222 3 месяца назад
I live on the St Laurence River in rural Quebec, recently moved here. I can't believe how big some of the freighters and cruise ships are that go by... I googled - apparently, at its deepest the river is only 40' deep?! The ships do seem to move with the tide at times (I am on the river east of Trois Rivieres, so there is some tidal effect from the Atlantic). Fascinating....
@LoriTalbot-du2qt
@LoriTalbot-du2qt 3 месяца назад
Robert Ballard visited the Empress for a Discovery channel documentary on lost liners back in the nineties . He was embarrassed that he hadn't heard of the ship himself. He interviewed the family of someone lost in the sinking. So sad!
@LoriTalbot-du2qt
@LoriTalbot-du2qt 3 месяца назад
The thought of being stuck in a pitch black room going under the water is horrific !
@margaretjames6494
@margaretjames6494 3 месяца назад
Thanks for the explanation, John - I thought I was going crazy. lol I was sure i had commented on this video before - to tell you about the sinking of the CPR's Princess Sofia and that the figurehead of the Empress of Japan is on display at Stanley Park in Vancouver. There is so much history wrapped up in the CPR - their ships and trains got you almost anywhere in Canada - and they had swanky hotels you could stay at along the way. But that's for another reaction. Keep up the good work!
@user-ln8fu2lx3x
@user-ln8fu2lx3x 3 месяца назад
Love the show . My sister lives in America , have an American brother in-law Grand father was born in Holding Ford Minnesota . Love America .
@johnf-americanreacts1287
@johnf-americanreacts1287 3 месяца назад
Thanks friend. 😊🇨🇦🇺🇸
@LeeBaril-we8po
@LeeBaril-we8po 3 месяца назад
Glad to have you back. Awaiting your next video
@LoveCats9220
@LoveCats9220 3 месяца назад
The St Lawrence River can easily accommodate ocean liners and freighters, which is the reason large cities like Montreal and Toronto grew to be so large. If the River couldn’t handle the larger ships, the Maritimes would have a much larger population as incoming freight would’ve had to have been off loaded there and shipped by smaller ships and then by trains
@lovehandr
@lovehandr 2 месяца назад
Besides Pier 21 in Halifax, there is also Grosse Isle just down river from Quebec City. It was the quarantine station for Canadian immigrants and is likely where many of my ancestors entered into Canada. I went there in 2022 and it was a moving experience. There is a memorial that lists all those who had died while in quarantine or who had died at sea.
@mjking6162
@mjking6162 3 месяца назад
I'm Canadian, from NB. This is the first time I have heard about this. Thank-you for covering this video.
@johnf-americanreacts1287
@johnf-americanreacts1287 3 месяца назад
Hi there in NB. I want to do something specifically about your province soon as being one of the smaller geographical provinces, I wonder if it gets overlooked.
@Lavolanges
@Lavolanges 3 месяца назад
If you have a chance, make a trek to the Empress of Ireland Museum just outside Rimouski. It's a very interesting way to spend an afternoon. You can also visit one of our decommissioned subs, the Onondaga, on the same site.
@flyndee
@flyndee 3 месяца назад
I never learned about this in school. But even then, the approach to history lessons in the past was often about facts and figures. Dry as dust. So much of it passed us by, momentary and brief. And I was a history student, who loved looking into the past. It's good that we have the chance to look back and truly consider the human part of the equation. Thank you for granting us the opportunity. And thank you for being such a thoughtful and caring individual. It's clear that you put a lot of thought into the cultural and historical forces that have shaped us all, on both sides of the border. I truly hope that you are also feeling enriched by what you're discovering, and are enjoying the journey. All the best.
@johnf-americanreacts1287
@johnf-americanreacts1287 3 месяца назад
Thank you so much. I try. 😊
@carolmurphy7572
@carolmurphy7572 3 месяца назад
Incredibly tragic! Like you, I was especially saddened by the number of children lost in this disaster. The fact that most passengers would have been sleeping, as well as the speed of the sinking of the ship obviously contributed greatly to the low survival numbers. And how sad is it that the dear little 8 year-old girl felt it would bring shame for her to have cried about the horror she experienced during the sinking of the ship and the shock of losing her mother and her sister! Boggles the mind! Thank you, John, for another informative and thoughtful review of a piece of Canadian history. I know we never learned about this tragedy in school in Newfoundland and Labrador in the 1960s, and I wonder if it was part of the curriculum in other provinces.
@johnf-americanreacts1287
@johnf-americanreacts1287 3 месяца назад
Hi Carol. Nice to see you as always. Yes this was so sad. It is hard to understand why this is not more widely known
@robertweese9656
@robertweese9656 3 месяца назад
Thank you for increasing my knowledge of my country I dont remember learning about this at school Of course I grew up in \English part of c\Canada in the 50s
@Lavolanges
@Lavolanges 3 месяца назад
I grew up in NB. I remember my parents mentioning that a man who'd grown up in our village had been an adopted survivor of that wreck. I have no idea if that is true. But we certainly never learned about this in school.
@user-fh9bf7uv4l
@user-fh9bf7uv4l 3 месяца назад
I was unaware of this tragedy, so thank you for posting. My grandmother immigrated from Ireland around this time.
@johnf-americanreacts1287
@johnf-americanreacts1287 3 месяца назад
Any idea what county in Ireland? My grandmother was born here but her older siblings were born in Ireland. They came in the late 1890s. My grandmother was born in 1911 in New York, the youngest of seven. Thanks for watching and for the comment. 😊
@blanewilliams5960
@blanewilliams5960 3 месяца назад
I do not remember ever learning about this in school or from any other source of historical information. Good video about a terrible tragedy and again I have learned something new about Canadian history from our American cousin. Thank you John.
@johnf-americanreacts1287
@johnf-americanreacts1287 3 месяца назад
You’re quite welcome and thanks for watching and sharing.
@keridwenblue
@keridwenblue 3 месяца назад
I knew about this because my great grandparents went down with this ship. They had come to Canada but had decided to go back home to Ireland. My grandmother had decided not to accompany them and so survived.
@johnf-americanreacts1287
@johnf-americanreacts1287 3 месяца назад
Wow, that’s so sad. Thanks for sharing this family history.
@johnp5990
@johnp5990 3 месяца назад
Thanks for posting this. I've missed several videos due to ongoing health issues, and am trying to go back and watch them when I can.
@johnf-americanreacts1287
@johnf-americanreacts1287 3 месяца назад
Hi John. Thanks for catching up and I truly hope it’s nothing too serious. Wishing you well and a speedy recovery.
@real_lostinthefogofwar
@real_lostinthefogofwar 3 месяца назад
I came to Canada by ship in 1957, I was just a baby, so I don't remember it.
@user-lr2sq5qx2r
@user-lr2sq5qx2r 3 месяца назад
I am Canadian and tbh we never learned anything about this at all in school. Perhaps those who grew up in the maritimes may have learned about this. At my age it's great to learn new things about my country. Thanks
@mjking6162
@mjking6162 3 месяца назад
I'm in NB and never learned about this in school either.
@emerybonner7973
@emerybonner7973 3 месяца назад
Here is a fact about Storstad. She was built to break through thick ice. So, of all the ships to strike the Empress of Ireland, it had to be one with a heavily reinforced bow.
@johnf-americanreacts1287
@johnf-americanreacts1287 3 месяца назад
Jeez! That makes sense, knowing the devastation it caused. Thanks for the info and joining the conversations
@christophermerlot3366
@christophermerlot3366 3 месяца назад
Pier 21 was the port in Halifax. I suspect my grandparents got there from Poland after the war.
@frasermcburney270
@frasermcburney270 3 месяца назад
AS A YOUTH LIVING IN MONTREAL I WOULD GO DOWN TO THE DOCKS TO WATCH THE EMPRESS SHIPS COME IN. REMEMBERING THE EMPRESS OF CANADA IT WAS HUGE THE GLEAMING WHITE PAINT I STILL REMEMBER. WE WERE TAUGHT IN SCHOOL OF THE SINKING OF THE EMRESS OF IRELAND. BY THE WAY I ENJOY YOUR YOU TUBE CHANEL BRING BACK MEMOREIES. .
@johnf-americanreacts1287
@johnf-americanreacts1287 3 месяца назад
Hi Fraser, I’m glad you are enjoying it and it must have been a sight to see that class of ship in person.
@secretsofthepastsparahisto2993
@secretsofthepastsparahisto2993 3 месяца назад
Hey brother its me Derek from Windsor Ontario Canada I have commented on your past videos before again a great video I love the work you put into these videos for me you can ' t be born and raised in Southwestern Ontario without learning and hearing stories of the Empress of Ireland and the Edmund Fitzgerald and many other shipwrecks in the great lakes and the seaways for that matter you can ' t be a Canadian without learning about the Titanic disaster and the Halifax explosion of 1919 there is a grave in Halifax with the Titanic dead in which I plan too go this summer . Again many thanks and I look forward too seeing more content from you .
@johnf-americanreacts1287
@johnf-americanreacts1287 3 месяца назад
Hi Derek. Yup, I recognize your avatar. I’m glad you enjoyed the video. Thanks for commenting and for your support.
@secretsofthepastsparahisto2993
@secretsofthepastsparahisto2993 3 месяца назад
@@johnf-americanreacts1287 You are welcome anytime
@michaeljamesstewart1000
@michaeljamesstewart1000 3 месяца назад
The tragedy was part of my curriculum and was taught in Ontario schools in the late 40's (not certain about later on). Chimo
@michaeljamesstewart1000
@michaeljamesstewart1000 3 месяца назад
Thank you, John. The interest, curiosity, courtesy and respect you continue to pay to Canada is deeply appreciated. Chimo
@jerkyd499
@jerkyd499 3 месяца назад
And if you didn’t see my msg- on st. Patrick’s day I had a pint with the Trews here in Hamilton- they said hi to New York John👍 great Jam session great guy’s!
@johnf-americanreacts1287
@johnf-americanreacts1287 3 месяца назад
Oh wow! That’s Amazing. Thanks so much for that. 😊
@jerkyd499
@jerkyd499 3 месяца назад
@@johnf-americanreacts1287 I know your a busy guy, I’m going through horrible times and work 60 hours a week- always looking forward to seeing you/ your videos, I’m looking forward to the black watch snipers by history hit reaction when you are able to do that thanks friend ❤️👊
@KelleysQuiltsandCruises
@KelleysQuiltsandCruises 3 месяца назад
The idea was ( and it did work way back in that time as far as I know ) was that you could go pretty much around the world with Canadian Pacific. Or at least between Europe and Asia. The two Empress ships got passengers to Quebec. From there the guests would board trains and cross Canada. Sometimes staying at the fancy CPR hotels, like the Chateau Frontenac in Quebec City, or the Banff Springs hotel. Once reaching Vancouver, there were other CPR ships that carried guests across the Pacific to places like Hong Kong.
@johnf-americanreacts1287
@johnf-americanreacts1287 3 месяца назад
That makes so much sense that the CPR would invest in that.
@Gdubs111
@Gdubs111 3 месяца назад
I was drawn to your interesting bit of history because, as a child, I crossed to Quebec City from (I think) Southampton in 1962 aboard a later Empress of Britain. The early years of the 20th century was a dangerous time for trans Atlantic shipping, with radio communication lagging behind the increasing size and speed of ships plying foggy and stormy North Atlantic routes. Radar and bridge voice radio were still decades in the future. From the description of the actions on the bridges of the two vessels, I suspect the two relatively inexperienced watch officers would both be found partially at fault under today's interpretation of the collision regulations. The estuary of the St. Lawrence where the fatal collision occurred seems to be remarkably close to the stretch of water where she had her run-in with a sunken wreck a few years earlier, emphasizing the variety of hazards for ocean going vessels in narrow waters.
@johnf-americanreacts1287
@johnf-americanreacts1287 3 месяца назад
Thank you so much for this comment my friend. Very informative.
@Lavolanges
@Lavolanges 3 месяца назад
If you can get your hands on James Croall's "Fourteen Minutes - The Last Voyage of the Empress of Ireland", IIRC, he delves into the court case that followed.
@jerkyd499
@jerkyd499 3 месяца назад
Thank friend always good to see you! Love from Canada 👊
@floyd2222
@floyd2222 3 месяца назад
also James Cameron, the director is Canadian. ;-)
@johnf-americanreacts1287
@johnf-americanreacts1287 3 месяца назад
I didn’t know that. He’s such an amazing and talented director. Kinda an intense guy too.
@paulrider6584
@paulrider6584 3 месяца назад
Thank you
@wordawgg
@wordawgg 3 месяца назад
lost family and a whole salvation band on this ship
@ryanwilson_canada
@ryanwilson_canada 3 месяца назад
My grandparents came over in the mid 1900's from scotland, and wales, so i guess that makes me... third? Generation canadian? They do teach about this accident in history class here. At least where i live anyhow. Sad that it happened, same with the titanic, and the halifax explosion, that said. Its history, you can't change it, only learn from it.
@johnf-americanreacts1287
@johnf-americanreacts1287 3 месяца назад
Very true my friend. It’s important not to forget either.
@IntrepidMilo
@IntrepidMilo 3 месяца назад
There were more passengers and crew that died on the Empress of Ireland than on the Titanic. 840 people sank with the Empress while 832 died on the Titanic.
@eyez274
@eyez274 3 месяца назад
a re-upload?
@johnf-americanreacts1287
@johnf-americanreacts1287 3 месяца назад
Yes it was. I do explain why a few minutes into my intro. A legit reason, I think. 🤔
@eyez274
@eyez274 3 месяца назад
@@johnf-americanreacts1287 i miss your reason on my first watch because I was wondering why it was re-uploaded, ahah. Have a Nice day John!
@luckyskittles8976
@luckyskittles8976 3 месяца назад
opps Title check Otherwise enjoyed it
@johnf-americanreacts1287
@johnf-americanreacts1287 3 месяца назад
Yup, I fixed it. Thanks. 😳
@caralynne2809
@caralynne2809 3 месяца назад
Umm, I haven't yet watched; however, you will need to edit your title.
@johnf-americanreacts1287
@johnf-americanreacts1287 3 месяца назад
Yup, I fixed it. Thanks for the heads up
@caralynne2809
@caralynne2809 3 месяца назад
@@johnf-americanreacts1287 I did continue to watch the video. Thank you for teaching me so much!
@caralynne2809
@caralynne2809 3 месяца назад
@@johnf-americanreacts1287 Also, the difference between the St. Lawrence River vs the St. Lawrence Seaway which permits travel from Lake Superior through to the Atlantic Ocean: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Wx-DlR1uk0Q.htmlsi=q6wyh3oLF9TirhP-
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