exactly, especially considering 11 saying he will always remember the speech he made before regenerating and then when he does re-gen he suddenly has a loss of memory of sorts, it would be very jarring
With his writing Moffat isn't judging Clara. Some other characters may be, but all because Moffat wrote those lines doesn't make them his views. Its the same with writers writing racists aren't necessarily racist themselves.
Yes, when you create a deliberately flawed character (who tend to be much more interesting) it doesn't mean you cannot reference their flaws in your writing. In fact if you didn't, wouldn't that just be bad writing?
Actually, I think Moffat was calling out the fandom in that scene. I remember that when the announcement of Capaldi was made, some on the internet voiced their disappointment that they went from Dreamy young Matt Smith to the Older Capaldi. This was Moffat basically calling out those fans by reminding them that the Doctor is not their fantasy boyfriend or whatever. And to some extent, Clara's response in that scene was intended to be the Voice of TRUE fans of the show who are NOT swayed by a pretty face and are in it for the substance. Similarly, the closing scene when Matt Smith says that the Man she is with is more scared than anyone, he was actually talking about Capaldi who was Taking on such an Enormous role and terrified that he would not live up to its legacy.
I mean, you'll often find racists using racist characters just so they can have them say racist shit and then go "no, I'm not racist, it's the *character* saying it!" The only time that's not the case really is when they're using it to target the racist as the butt of the joke or to exaggerate it specifically to call out the racism, in a specifically anti-racist intention, but when they're just writing racists it's like, they're still choosing to publicly say racist shit to their audience when they didn't have to so it's always sus at best like when shows will put in rape scenes and then go "no you see, it's period accurate!" and it's like no the point is that you decided to put it in at all
The weird will-they-won't-they of Clara and Eleven was frankly a very nothing, kinda rote relationship. But Clara and TWELVE? Them realizing that yes, they had a physical attraction to each other, but that such a thing just now isn't possible, and was perhaps a mistake, allowed them to appreciate and love each other on SUCH a deeper level. And I LOVE that aspect of them moving forward. Because those two ABSOLUTELY love each other, and it IS still a bit physical, but so much more deeper than that, and they both know it, but can't speak it. It's SO MUCH RICHER a relationship than what they had before. Capaldi is my favorite Doctor, even though a lot of his stories aren't my favorite. And Paula better not watch those "Next Times On" cause they get HUGELY spoilery during these years.
I loved 11/Clara because they were light and sparkly and joyous. I loved 12/Clara because they were messy and complicated and beautiful. I saw them as a cross between 4/Sarah Jane (platonic soulmates) and 9/Rose (connection is romantic but he feels like it shouldn't be). And I think someone else came up with his theory, but when 9 changed to 10 it was like he was trying to change to a form Rose would really like, and when 11 changed to 12 he was trying to change in a way Clara *wouldn't* like.
"Clara........I'm not your boyfriend" Gosh....that still hits. Dearest Paula, welcome to MY favorite era of the show. Hold on to your seat....many wild adventures await!
@@EForrest88 Yeah. While Clara loses that element in her relationship to the Doctor, I've always believed that the Doctor never stops feeling that way about her. He simply recognizes the change in her, and knows that their differing lifespans would render any actual relationship... problematic. But you pick up clues to the Doctor's feelings off and on, and it explains much regarding the last storyline in Series 9.
@@RobtBlond aye especially in Time Heist when he says to himself "beat that for a first date" lol I did hear Jenna say at a comicon panel at the end of Mummy on the Orient Express when she's on the phone w/ Danny and says "I love you" but is look at the Doctor (Jenna) felt she was saying it to 12 and not Danny. For whatever that's worth...
@@safespacebear that is correct. Jenna did mention it. Also, moffat has also stated in an interview before s09 premier 12 has a crush on Clara but act like he don't.
This was the turning point for me with Clara. I was very meh on her in season 7 but Moffat actually made her a person rather than just a mystery in this season. And Capaldi and Coleman are great together.
Just because I haven't seen anyone bring it up in the comments I scrolled through - I feel like they misinterpreted the "it's times like these I miss Amy" comment. He's simply referring to Amy's height and thus long legs being able to reach the sonic.
I think Clara was a proxy for part of the NuWho audience that were rejecting Capaldi when he was cast. Madame Vastra was addressing the audience. I think. Though it obviously works on the direct level to Clara on some level.
@@Fanky_Milton There was definitely push back on social media at the time about Capaldi being 'old' and 'ugly' and that said people didn't want to watch anymore because they wanted a 'hot' Doctor instead. It was sad.
@@NicoleM_radiantbaby yep there deffo was I was angry that he was old when he was announced but idek when he became my Doctor and it not even close like it is with Tennant and Smith
Though Clara is well aware of regenerations, this is the first she's experienced in person. Also, in a way, watching a regeneration is akin to watching a friend recovering from brain damage. Their behaviour changes in many ways, and so there's an element of trying to relearn who they are all over again. This is why I'm not as bothered by Clara's initial reaction to the change.
Fun bit of trivia for this episode. The opening title sequence was adapted from a fan-made one. Moffat saw it and just hired the guy who created it to create a version of it for the show. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-oXOBHnWiinY.html
I never thought Clara was saying she wasn't in love with the Doctor. I always took it more that she didn't love him BECAUSE he was a handsome man. She was saying that she was more interested in the intelligence and stuff rather than just being a shallow girl who's mad because he's no longer the handsome young man. I'll have to listen to it again, but I'm pretty sure throughout that speech she never really says she wasn't in love with him. Not that I'm complaining, I always prefer it when the companion isn't in love with the Doctor. Donna just being a mate, Amy in later seasons just being like a family member.
Well, earlier in the scene/conversation, she does say she wasn't "flirting" with the Doctor, and didn't recognize him flirting with her. Not quite the same as saying she wasn't in love with him, but implying that she didn't see a romantic element to the relationship.
I've always viewed Moffat as using Clara's character as those audience members who were really put off at first by Capaldi's casting as the Doctor. The Madame Vastra/Clara scene and Eleven's phone call were, for me, Moffat talking to that part of the Doctor Who audience, kind of calling them out with the first scene, and extending an olive branch, and asking to give Twelve a chance with the Eleven phone call. All that said, while Eleven is my favorite, Twelve is phenomenal. Capaldi is an old school Doctor and such a tour de force.
So glad you are here! Peter Capaldi's acting ability and their chemistry together really make these series shine brighter, he definitely becomes my favourite Doctor!
Come on, how many of us who knew who Michelle Gomez was punched the air on her appearance thinking “I have no idea who she’s playing but she’ll be great...and crazy!” That half bite/half snort.....completely nuts. If you’ve not seen her before, see her as Sue White in the brilliant ‘Green Wing’ and also in ‘Psychobitches’ as a drug addled, kleptomaniac Mary Queen of Scots with an accent so thick it needs subtitles!
P.S. Psychobitches is also worth watching to spot the Doctor Who Alumni, including Mark Gatiss in a rather unexpected role (unless you are already a fan of the LoG). Also, The Bronte Sisters are worth watching to get your ears attuned to Jodie and Mandip’s accents from Season 11 onwards of Doctor Who!
My favourite Clara scene when she’s facing off against the bad guy - she nailed it perfectly and made me like the character properly for the first time.
Can't wait until Paula gets to some of THE moments where Capaldi shines brighter then Max Capricorns Tooth.. I always loved David Tennant as "my" Doctor even due Matt Smith beeing absolutely incredible in some of my alltime-new-who-fav-episodes but then the clock hit TWELVE! P.s. whoever this woman at the end is... I might love her unique character Muahahaha
Fun fact: that homeless man in the alley, Brian Miller, was married to Elisabeth Sladen, Sarah-Jane Smith. Very cool they did that! Capaldi is absolute favorite Doctor! Paula's gonna love him!
Capaldi is a lifelong Who fan who was probably able to bring more informed nuance and depth to his portrayal from day one than any other actor, and this is not to take away from all the others in the modern era who’ve all been fantastic (to coin a phrase).
Kinda sad that Katrina doesn't enjoy S8 and S9 because 8, 9 and 10 are my favorite of the lot! Capaldi and Clara both were the highlight of Doctor Who for me. I hope you guys are more positive this time around.
Series 9 is my favourite series of the whole of New Who, hands down, series 4 being a close second (Donna love forever) I know loads of people hated Clara, but I am definitely team 12/Clara! Their story is so wonderful!
@@dullaf4099 In my opinion, Capaldi is the best actor to have played The Doctor between Eccelston to Whittaker. He played it so well that throught seasons 8-10 I never once see Peter Capaldi just the 12th Doctor. He brought so much emotion to the title role: anger, rage, sadness, and happiness. Plus in my opinion, out of all the revival Who doctors; 12 has had the most character development. Not saying the others didn't change over time but 12 had the most by Twice Upon A Time he clearly is not the same man we saw in Deep Breath. Because of all the events that shaped him those three seasons
@@nickloschen2717 also Capaldi feels like the most complete doctor he got little bits from all his past incarnations but has his own unique thing. He becomes even more complete if you take in the regeneration theory that he is subconsciously affecting all his regenerations and this era feels like the doctor finally embracing his true self no long having to be young because he is reaching the end of his regenerations and no longer bound by the time war and his lack of regenerations
I love the fact that they actually did that, it kind of reminds me of Smith stepping through the projection of Tennant back in "The Eleventh Hour", the new Doctor shaking off the weight and shackles of their predecessor and ready to make the character their own
If you scroll through his imdb page, you'll see that one of Cipaldi's roles shortly before taking on The Doctor is in World War Z where he is credited as "WHO Doctor."
I remember when Jenna was doing press for this season she could not shut up about how much she ADORED working opposite Capaldi. There's no indication that she hated Matt or anything but her face would glow every time she talked about Capaldi in interviews, or on stage at an event with him standing next to her - watching him squirm at such moments is truly wonderful.
yaaayyy I'm so excited to see you guys watch Capaldi's era !!! I adore 12 and personally, i think s8&9 Clara arc >>> Clara s7b arc, plus i like Clara and 12's dynamic much more than Clara and 11's
Also, I understand a lot people dont like how Clara reacted to regeneration despite seeing all his regenerations and knowing ab regeneration, but I'm happy you guys were more understanding towards her situation, in her defence, even though Clara knew the Doctor could change his face, she didn't know his personality could change as well, he went from a bubbly affectionate doctor to a grumpy doctor who "doesn't do hugs", and ofc "knowing ab it is different to experiencing it"
Another classic Who callback in this episode is from the beginning when Vastra says "Here we go again": which Brigadier Lethbridge Stewart says when he watches Jon Pertwee's Third Doctor regenerate into Tom Baker's Fourth. (The Brigadier had met the Second Doctor first, so was already familiar with the Doctor changing faces).
Capaldi is my favourite Doctor, his character arc is so wonderful, and befitting an actor of his calibre. He's a tough watch at times, both compelling and yet somehow able to convey the more "alien" aspects of the Doctors character more than any incarnation we have seen thus far. He is not a human and as much as we would love to anthropomorphise him, he is capable of acting in ways that are alien to us. He has just spent 2000 years on Trensalore, he has had to deal with his own mortality, he has regenerated past his allotted number of regenerations, he is breaking new ground and this has sent him on a soul searching mission. However, with support and guidance from his friends and the occasional arguments where he is called out and has to learn that his actions have real consequences, his journey of self discovery is a wonder to behold. Capaldi did an outstanding job with this character and quite rightly earned the love and respect from a majority of Doctor Who fans. My Doctor, and it's going to be a whopper! x
Also, Clara with 12 is 100% my favourite duo. I know the Clara haters are going to arrive in force, but she is the perfect foil for Capaldi's interpretation. She's clever, so clever, she's quick to act and always steers him right with unswerving loyalty and belief in his abilities! Yes, she makes a bad decision or two, when her mind is preoccupied, but who hasn't? She grows as a person, as does the Doctor, they learn from each other and their story is one of love, loyalty and absolute trust in one another, even if that belief is unwise or maybe dangerous! I love it, Moffat nailed it with these two!
i personally loved and believed Clara's monolog (i didn't believe that she wasn't attracted to the doctor but the passion and care she felt for him in that moment was powerful to me)
I always interpreted Lady Vastra's grilling of Clara as Moffat's admonishing some fans from Matt Smith's run who reacted negatively to the casting of Twelve with someone who wasn't a young, good-looking bloke. 🤷♂️
I think Peter Capaldi is my favourite doctor he’s like Christopher Eccleston In terms of being a personality forming through regeneration after a war only this time he had Clara to help balance him out like when Ecclestone’s doctor found Rose although I always love Capaldi’s attitude and when he says things like “she’s my carer she cares so I don’t have to”😂 he does care he just doesn’t have the skills to express it although I think by season 10 he is more expressive and definitely calmer than His previous seasons
@@epicmonkey6663 Agreed, I think in Capaldi's first series, he was very spiky and acerbic and that put a lot of people off him, but by his third series he had mellowed (and matured) considerably. He definitely had the best character development of all the doctors.
Capaldi was older when he was cast than when William Hartnell was when the show first started, and Capaldi was a fan of the show from the very start, even having sent fan-mail to the show as a child.
There's a clip of Capaldi on Graham Norton where they trot out some of his old letters to the BBC and I think bring up the fierce battle that he lost as a fourteen year old to become head of the "Doctor Who" fan club in the early '70s. Capaldi's desperate to crawl under the sofa and says something like, "I've been trying to keep my wife from finding out about all that for thirty years." LMAO!
Did anyone mention that the length of the scarf was a mistake. They told the knitter they wanted a multi-colored scarf and gave her a variety of skeins - she thought she was supposed to use all of them in their entirety. When they got the scarf they said, "Ah....ah......ah...Oh, let's use it."
hard to watch the repetitious Clara hate. :/ I loved her from day one. Especially the "I ... AM... HU..MAN." But then I had to live through my friend's constant hate on Amy Pond.
Re: Accents, my theory is as the modern Doctor ages and grows, his next regenerations come to take on aspects of his companions who’ve made the most emotional impact on him. After traveling with Rose, the Doctor’s next regeneration takes on her accent. After Amy, the next Doctor “becomes” Scottish (which Moffat, Tennant, and Capaldi all are).
100 I also believe that theory I also think what regeneration number he is on and the people and key stories that he was with during his last regenerations also plays a part into the Doctor new regeneration
Interesting to hear you say that Clara is the audience in this in regards to seeing a regen the first time. Good or Bad we see the Doctor through the Companion's eyes. It poses that question-Who is the main character? The Doctor or The Companion?
I'm just saying Capaldi is by far the best actor to ever play the Doctor and I live him. He's just brilliant, it never ceases to amaze me how good he is.
Remember what Ten said about regenerating: he is the same person, but completely different. It feels hard for him. I can only imagine how does it feel for the companions, specially the ones that had a crush for the previous impersonation...
I love this as a new-Doctor story. That scene where 12 leaves Clara behind in the room with the android is a scene that can only hit that hard with a brand-new Doctor. By a few episodes into 11, we would never have believed that he would really abandon Amy, same with 10 or 9 with Rose. Only because 12 is an unknown - even to himself - does it provoke the kind of reaction Paula gave (which was just like mine at the time!) It's resolved brilliantly later when Clara reaches out her hand for him, and there's nothing there for juuust long enough that you doubt.
Peter Capaldi is my absolute favourite Doctor. There are a few week episodes during his run but he is always amazing. Can't wait to see you watch them all.
Vastra saying "Here we go again" is a nod to the 1974 story Planet of the Spiders where Brigadier Lethbridge Stewart (Kate Stewart's Dad) said the same line as the 3rd Doctor started regenerating.
Man there are some killer scenes in this episode, when 11 called Clara my heart and eyes broke it hurt having to say goodbye to him again but it was nice hearing him say to help and give him a chance. Goodbye 11 you will always be missed 💔
I once saw a compilation reaction to 11's goodbye and the best part was when one of them says "Moffatt you bastard what did you do to me?" And immediately afterward another one looks up dejected yelling; "Ugh, my heart!!!"
13:30 that someone else’s face happened to be a mask of Matt Smith! They had a whole little clip in Doctor Who Extra about it Another funny note: in the bedroom when he’s says they’d developed a fault, to calm him down Vastra fakes a Scottish accent
I've seen Neve McIntosh in some other stuff and at a convention or two and it's one of the weirdest things about this show that they take an actress as stunning as her and stick scaly green makeup all over her face. For her part she seems to have gotten a serious kick out of doing it. :)
I'm so happy with Paula's reaction to Clara's processing of the new doctor. Exactly how I expected her to react 😂 I love this episode 💜 So much exciting stuff to come!
Did he actually shoot his first episode as his first episode? That's rather unusual - they usually schedule that one a few into the production so the actor can get a handle on being the Doctor before they have to commit their first moments as the character to 'film.'
It’s around this 3rd (modern) regeneration you start to notice you almost never see the Doctor sleep, and the few times you *do* it’s always right after a regeneration. (This happens in Classic Who too. Check Tom Baker’s regeneration serial, “Robot”.)
Back around these days Doctor who was still hit tv in the UK. So when Matt was going to be replaced with Capaldi a lot of girls in particular vowed to stop watching because the doctor wasn’t a dashing young man anymore. So Moffat was talking to the audience basically saying yes he’s older but he’s still the same man
Viewing figures for season 11 and 12 are better than they were for season 9 and 10. The most recent new year's special was a huge deal. It's still hit TV.
@@robvanriot it’s not really hit tv anymore. In the RTD era it was an institution, the UK loved it, episodes made it onto the news, people were on tv shows explicitly to talk about doctor who and the nation was gripped, it won awards at the NTA’s, baftas etc, brought the house down, crowds loved it, people loved the show, it was a staple of British television. It was cool, it was trendy, it was fantastic and dramatic, well acted drama Nowadays it’s embarrassing to admit to people you actually still watch the show
I was irritated by Clara's reactions too when I first watched these (I was irritated by Rose's reaction to 10 as well, but as she was only 19 and had no idea what regeneration even WAS, she got some slack from me...) Clara, having run through the Doctor's entire timeline, had no excuse for being freaked out by it as far as I was concerned. On further reflection I started thinking perhaps Clara thought that each new regeneration would be younger (looking) than the last, which, with a few exceptions, was the general trend. Or maybe she assumed that each Doctor would start young looking and age until the next regeneration. Suddenly she is confronted with a Doctor who looks twice as old as the one she first met, and as old as or older than any of the Doctors she has seen (except the War Doctor) and she is thrown for a loop by it. I still think her reaction is a little much for someone who has known of every regeneration the Doctor has had, though I do chalk it up more to the writing.
Twelve is, by far, my favorite of the five "Modern" Doctors we've met so far, to the point that I've cosplayed him at NYCC. He has an actual ARC over his incarnation (much like Ten, though Ten's arc is to mainly get more-and-more hurt over time until he's broken). And Capaldi might be the best pure actor to ever play the Doctor. His chemistry with Jenna Coleman is absolutely ridiculous, and I will refrain from saying what I very much want to say about the differences between the relationships between Eleven and Clara and Twelve and Clara once you guys are further along. I have many, many thoughts, and it drives me up a wall the way certain assumptions are made by viewers because of the shift from Eleven to Twelve.... Brief point.... The Doctor is not "over 2,000 years old." He's something like 5,000+ years old, possibly far older. He forgets. There's an assumption among deep fandom that he reset his age with the Time War, since he appears to have fought the Time War for centuries as the War Doctor (and avoided it for centuries as Eight), and kept changing his age with earlier incarnations. We really don't know, but he's definitely a LOT older than 2,000.
Not to mention episode 1 of series 6, doctor is like 2100, then hes 1800.. so he's been going on 300 year long adventures on his own between visits with companions. And when they revisit lake Silence he's once again 2100.. So every time he drops someone off and comes back, that could be any number of years.. Like you said with the time war, those years count even if the doctor ignores everything about the War Doctor aside from the war itself and the moment. Trenzalore was also a few centuries long. My non-spoilery question would be... during that one Capaldi episode.. do all those years count?
Yeah, I always laughed when the new series Doctors would say they were 900ish years old. Especially as he was 953 as the Seventh Doctor back in 'Time of the Rani'. I used to always joke it was somewhat of a vanity thing, like humans saying they're just 30 or 40 when they're older than that.
I don’t know about anyone else but Clara was my favorite companion from the moment I saw her. I loved her so much and ngl it hurt a little when she was getting shit on in the episode but I also saw the moment as a little necessary. For Vastra, she cares about the doctor and has always been one of his most faithful allies, so to see Clara, someone who hasn’t known him as long, treating him that way and being as flustered and confused as she was, saw fit to test her resolve because she knows how important it is for the doctor’s companions to have his back no matter what. She didn’t want this new doctor who was clearly dazed and confused from regenerating to have a companion who would abandon him so easily. So like I said it hurt a little cause I love her so much but I think it definitely needed to happen
I have to argue about your comment about Moffat. Characters can have different views... and it's good writing to have a character with one view go after a character with a different view. Moffat was not attacking Clara for being the character he created... he had a character he wrote with a different view argue with her.
Writing a flawed character and then having other characters question them on their flaws isn't bad writing in my mind, like I usually think it's good??
There is SO MUCH set up in this episode. Capaldi has some of my favorite episodes of Nu Who. OOF that line about missing Amy. And it's always a pleasure to see Vastra, Jenny and Strax. To me this started to feel to me like the Doctor Donna dynamic which I still find ASTOUNDING
great reaction, This is my favorite New Doctor Episode in all Who, Capaldi is absolute perfection, this episode has some of the best lines in the show, "These are attack Eyebrows" and the perfect line of "you probably don't even remember where you got that face" as 12 is looking at his own reflection, also the instant chemistry between Jenna Coleman and Capaldi, easily my favorite Doctor and My Favorite Companion and my favorite DOCTOR/COMPANION duo of the show by Light-Years, this episode is all that was needed to tie Capaldi with Tennant as my favorite and it only took another 3 full episodes after this one for Capaldi to surpass Tennant and then Capaldis lead just kept growing every episode
The regeneration into Capaldi is a very special one. Capaldi has always been a fan of the show, at 14yrs old, he wrote a letter to the BBC detailing why he should be the president of the Dr. Who fan club. He got into acting because he wanted to be the Doctor one day. Unlike everyone else for who, playing the Doctor was the role of a lifetime, for Capaldi, it was the role he spent his entire life preparing for. What you're seeing isn't just a new Doctor, it's a man achieving a life-long dream.
To be fair, people like Tennant and Davison were massive fans long-time fans going into their roles as well, but I know Tennant has even joked that Peter knows more about Doctor Who than he does! LOL
As someone who grew up on early Dr Who (don't like to say "old"!), I had a feeling I was going to like Capaldis take on the Doctor- but I was really unprepared for just how quickly he became my favorite Doctor! So glad you girls are finally reacting to his run on new Who now, it's going to be a hell of a ride!, sounds from your comments after just 1 episode like he's shaping up to be your favorite new Who Doctor too!
I feel like, in this episode, Clara was written to be the audience. Around the time of Peter's casting, there were (especially new Who only fans) who were not receptive to the casting as well as the usual "I miss the last doctor" mentality we all get. Even the name of the episode ties in I think. Take a deep breath, look at him, he is the doctor, the same one you have known. He is not young; he is very old and you are going to see him in a new light. I personally think Peter Capaldi is the best actor to play The Doctor
I remember Peter Capaldi from only his second movie as Danny Oldsen in "Local Hero" (1983) and, of course, his role in season 4's "The Fires of Pompeii".
Did you ever see him in "Prime Suspect 3"? There is a surprising number of stonkingly good actors supporting Helen Mirren in that but the one who rips out my heart every time is Capaldi. It's a bit of a showcase, but he transcends that more than one expects going in.
Yay im glad paula already likes my doctor. So here's a little bit of my reason for calling him my doctor. So tennant and smith played the doctor as putting up a facade. Tennant played the doctor as desperately needing to be right because he needed to convince himself that his decision to nuke gallifrey was the right one so his facade is the man who is always right and thats where the arrogance comes from. Smith played the doctor as desperately wanting to look like a good man. Hes faking it until he makes it and the only person he has calling him on his coldness is rory. With capaldi you can already see in this episode that theres no facades. He isnt hiding himself anymore. He is frank and honest that he doesnt know who he is anymore and thats why i love him so much.
One of the best parts of this episode (I saw this in the cinema as a movie) was the idea that HIS constant "companion" didn't recognize her (& she, him). GREAT transition of 'character'.
definitely the best first episode for a doctor. a great start to the deepest and close to best series of the show. 11 and clara were good but 12 and clara is something special nu who has not seen. without wanting to sound harsh i do think you misinterpreted or got the wrong idea with a few things in this episode.
Paula, while you were scrolling IMDB for Peter Capaldi's credits, did you see what his role was in World War Z was? :-) Trivia: the old Capaldi meets in the alley was played by Brian Miller. He was married to Elizabeth Sladen (Sarah Jane Smith) in real life.
That grin, Katrina! I so LOVED it! I would love to see Paula's reaction to the regeneration of 5 to 6's beginning part of the episode . Capaldi is my 2nd favorite New Who Doctor.
Capaldi reminds me so much of all my favorite Doctor traits in Old Who. I also had a similar experience with Clara when these episodes first aired. I didn't dislike her, but she felt underdeveloped at first. It's weird, but she doesn't feel that way upon subsequent viewings. She was definitely one of my favorites by the end.
Hello Katrina & Paula a great greeting from my country El Salvador. I just comment on the following, very possibly this has already been heard by Katrina, there is a theory about the doctor's regeneration process. In this theory it is mentioned that regeneration can be controlled by the conscious and subconscious. The first example could be between the 9th and the 10th doctor (the 9th as you know he spent a good time without human company with a severe case of ptsd because of the time war) at the end of the series when he realized that he was in love with Rose his subconscious regenerates him at 10th, young, attractive, and looking similar to Rose's age. The same would apply after the specials of the 4th series. At the end this was his last regeneration and he will died for real . His subconscious was afraid of dead so he change into a younger doctor, and so on until he reached Capaldi. just before making the change, the 12th doctor saw Amy, she is Scottish therefore it may be that the new accent is a reflection of Amy Pond. well this is more or less the explanation of the theory that I have seen about the regeneration process. Finally girls I love to see your videos I do not miss them every week.
I would argue the greatest speech in the history of the series, not just nuWho ... only to be followed up a few episodes later with one of the greatest overall acting displays in the history of the series. Proving that Capaldi is the greatest "actor" to have ever taken on the role (John Hurt could've made a go, if he had more than just the special).
@@AirPokemonNaruto22 Like everyone, I have a fondness for the Rings speech. But the speech I was referring to I would argue is significantly better, if only because I find myself returning to it regularly, and wanting to share it on social media every time I do because of how applicable it is to what we are seeing growing more and more in the world today (trying to be clear w/o being spoiler).
(11's hour is over now.) *The clock is striking 12's!* I'm _so_ exciteeeed for this era! Capaldi is one of my favourite Doctors in _all_ of Doctor Who! Turning even the most mediocre scripts into something entertaining, making good episodes masterpieces! Looking forward to this journey!
I've just about to start this episode, I love this episode, but I've just remember what happens at the end when she said young hot doctor..... Can't wait to see the reaction.
Has anyone commented about the Doctor asking the homeless man if he's seen this face before? The Doctor "never forgets a face". So is it that the Doctor remembers seeing Capaldi's face in the past? Capaldi was in the episode The Fires of Pompeii
Clara was never meant to be perfect good ole companion. Her characteristics push her to the higher limits that basically destroyed other companions (look at Donna, who almost died by becoming the Doctor). She starts as mystery gimmick, to then turn into quirky love interest, to co-protagonist, to the borderline antagonist. She is too perfect for her own good, which pushes her often to the toxic Mary Sue territory. This is what Doctor does to people - he twists them and pushes them to do stuff they wouldn't normally do, just his presence changes who they are. Which will be perfectly reflected in one of speeches made next season. And that's why it is ok for Moffat to write her that way and then later bash for those characteristics. RTD did that with Martha and her crush, Rose and her teenage nativity. Also I did like how Clara did stand against Vastra - normal people wouldnt tell the truth, they would deny their embarrassing feelings. No one likes being told that they are wrong.
Yeah, not only is she told she is wrong, but that she is a bad person for feeling the way she does. People are bad because of their actions, not their feelings, so I think it was quite appropriate for Clara to react the way she did. Yes, Vastra may have understood Clara's feelings, but Clara wasn't so much denying her feelings as she was denying that she's a bad person because of them. And she did show that she could rise above those feelings, and in the end, we can change our feelings by changing our actions. (If we did it the other way, waiting for our feelings to change, we might never change our actions).
Peter Fernando doesn't get the appreciation he deserves for playing the half-face man in this - he manages to play a character that is both facially static and robotic, AND give him moments of pathos and sympathy. The moment when he says "we will reach the promised land" - his face shows no emotion and yet somehow the stillness conveys sadness and weariness...
I agree. Loads of actors seriously kill it playing 'monster of the week' in episodes like this but often get overlooked since they aren't the star of the thing. I'm blanking on his name but the fellow who played Baines in "Family of Blood" who went on to be a blonde crazy bastard in the first season of "Game of Thrones" is performing on another level in that.
@@karlmortoniv2951 Yes, Harry Lloyd is one of the really great one-off villains in the modern show's history, entirely terrific throughout (all that plus I've a feeling he's deliberately channeling Malcolm McDowell because of 'If' and so on - that lop-sided smile is pure Clockwork Orange).
@@petersvillage7447 I wonder how that part was written in the script? I’m not trying to take credit from anyone, I’m honestly curious whether it said that Baines would be precisely that kind of peculiar after he got taken over to give more of a personality to the otherwise unseen Family? Did Harry shoot the moon in his audition and unleash his inner weirdness and got the gig that way? I keep meaning to go back and reread the original book and see how/if it’s treated in that. It’s been decades, but I remember the original story (which was about a different Doctor and companion) being a more straight faced affair in which something like Harry Lloyd’s performance would be out of place. They did an amazing job adapting it to the new show. 😊
@@karlmortoniv2951 I don't know the answer, but I suspect that what Harry Lloyd brings to his character would actually be difficult to properly convey in writing, so my feeling is that springs largely from the actor's interpretation. Mind you, I would be amazed if Cornell hadn't baked the influence of Lindsay Anderson's 'If' in there from the beginning - that film is rather savage about boarding schools and frankly, machine gun training in a boarding school is something I'd only ever seen depicted in 'If' before Human Nature - it's an image you pretty much couldn't use without bringing 'If' too mind. Once you get to 'If' you've got to Malcolm McDowell - and while Baines isn't particularly like McDowell's character in If, a door has been opened to allude to the taint and malevolence that McDowell came to represent in his career. While McDowell's performance in Clockwork Orange is often sullen and vile, he cultivates a humourless, one-sided smile that is quite menacing. Mr Lloyd seems to have taken that and dialled it to eleven...
@@karlmortoniv2951 The aliens aren't different in the book, though. They were the Aubertides -- so while they are similar to the Family of Blood, Lloyd's character is not in the book.
