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Reaction video: What’s everyone’s option about the law of fliming buses is it illegal or legal? 

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This video explains and I want to hear people’s opinions on a topic of if it’s illegal or legal to film buses.
Sorry, Sameoldfitup I am just using your video as an example of the conversation of you thinking it’s legal and him thinking it’s illegal and I am using it as I am example to hear different options.

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@IN_THIS_DAY_AND_AGE
@IN_THIS_DAY_AND_AGE 5 дней назад
There can't be a place that is more publicly accessible than a bus station.
@emily1
@emily1 Месяц назад
kinda getting fed up of seeing these rent-a-cops trying to look for trouble.
@Pete1890
@Pete1890 Месяц назад
Hi Emily, no I aren’t looking for trouble it was just a video example of what people thought of the law on this. Peter
@TradCatMan
@TradCatMan Месяц назад
I learned everything I needed to know about his IQ when he claimed the Data Protection Act makes it against the law to film people in public.
@johnUB4478
@johnUB4478 15 дней назад
@emily1 there was a security guard at Marston Green Station, out on the platform, and I told him I was going to be filming the trains, and he didn't really understand, and every time a train came through. He'd be watching me. I felt very uncomfortable, when all I was doing, was pursuing my hobby. I've not been back to that station since.
@Pete1890
@Pete1890 15 дней назад
@@johnUB4478 Hi John, I am really sorry to hear what happenend to you that time at the station, you should have reported this issue to their local bus depot to get the issue resolved as it's not fair that he's putted you off on going to a certain location. Peter.
@johnUB4478
@johnUB4478 15 дней назад
@Pete1890 hi there. It was at Marston Green railway station, on the platform.
@howardmckenna
@howardmckenna Месяц назад
No expectation of privacy in a public space.
@Pete1890
@Pete1890 Месяц назад
Hi this isn’t a private setting as he was recording outside of the interchange you see, if you were recording inside it then yes that’s a private setting. Peter
@TradCatMan
@TradCatMan Месяц назад
The irony of him walking up to a member of public in a public place and saying "just making you aware you are on CCTV", whilst then telling him not to film other members of public in a public place.
@gbhxu
@gbhxu Месяц назад
@@Pete1890 Still part of the interchange that is owned by Transport For Greater Manchester which is a private limited company. It finishes bordering the road with moving traffic.
@Pete1890
@Pete1890 Месяц назад
@@gbhxuHi well he’s still legally allowed to film there though as it’s legal to film the buses as part of his hobby.
@gbhxu
@gbhxu Месяц назад
@@Pete1890 Nope. He's on private property and needs permission from the owner.
@saxon1177
@saxon1177 Месяц назад
You can almost see the ignorance oozing from his pores.
@matticulas
@matticulas Месяц назад
Got told last week by a DHL delivery driver that it was illegal for me to film him when he was delivering to my property - what a div! I said how do the police and councils get away with operating cctv and all the households with Ring doorbells get away with it then. He still kept arguing though.
@noelsalisbury7448
@noelsalisbury7448 Месяц назад
They film the delivery of the parcel.
@Pete1890
@Pete1890 Месяц назад
Hi there, yes he is correct they do film the parcel, plus many delivery people get filmed and watched as many residents keep CCTV cameras nowadays and it’s not illegal to film a delivery driver. Peter
@delgray1442
@delgray1442 Месяц назад
Actually you need to have a sign up warning people that they are being recorded. I believe a year or so ago there was a court case involving a homeowner with a ring bell which recorded a bypasser who was unhappy at being recorded without their knowledge. As you warn people you are recording them before recording you should be OK. Same as recording telephone conversations.
@matticulas
@matticulas Месяц назад
@@delgray1442 you only need a sign if you're recording audio or video that's from beyond the curtilage of your property.
@Renegade1127
@Renegade1127 3 дня назад
@@Pete1890 All are equal under the law, and none are above the law. That's why they can film us !
@josephrodgers3265
@josephrodgers3265 7 дней назад
They are filming the public via cctv - nobody ask our permission !
@Renegade1127
@Renegade1127 3 дня назад
Your filmed on their busses as well.
@barrandilltanathlas1177
@barrandilltanathlas1177 Месяц назад
One minute he said you can't film in public, then he says it's private property. So what happened did the police turn up?.
@TradCatMan
@TradCatMan Месяц назад
We can infer from his utterances that he lacks the IQ required to consider an argument which doesn't violate the laws of non-contradiction.
@Pete1890
@Pete1890 Месяц назад
Hi there, I wasn’t in this video Sameoldfitup filmed this I was just using this for a reaction video you’d have to ask Sameoldfitup if the police turned up. Peter
@john-de5vf
@john-de5vf Месяц назад
At least 10 sandwiches short of a picnic that one 😂😂😂. That big m on his back stands for i am a complete Moron 😂😂
@TradCatMan
@TradCatMan Месяц назад
I thought it stood for "Muppet". He certainly satisfies the criteria. 😄😄😄
@majorlaff8682
@majorlaff8682 Месяц назад
@@TradCatMan 'MAD'?
@TradCatMan
@TradCatMan Месяц назад
@@majorlaff8682 Quite possibly 😄
@Andy-xj7cy
@Andy-xj7cy Месяц назад
Little weasel went crying to little piggies
@Pete1890
@Pete1890 Месяц назад
Hi Andy, to be honest he does seem tough and strong he just seemed to want to be more argumentative than cry back to his colleagues. Peter
@TradCatMan
@TradCatMan Месяц назад
He even has an expression of a weasel.
@noelsalisbury7448
@noelsalisbury7448 Месяц назад
I didn't know any Bus Station was a place where no-one could use a camera.
@Pete1890
@Pete1890 Месяц назад
Hi no he was in the wrong he’d got incorrect information there you see you can still use a camera there is no illegal about anything he’s fliming there and I bet if the police turned up they wouldn’t have cared or have done much. Peter
@richardwestwell4902
@richardwestwell4902 Месяц назад
Buy a bus ticket then you are entitled to be there as a potential passenger and little Adolf's argument falls apart.
@Pete1890
@Pete1890 Месяц назад
Hi Richard, it doesn’t matter if you have a bus ticket, Now Card and all those bus fares etc the collegues who came out and told him it’s illegal to film buses in public places was in the wrong personally and its legel to film buses and he wasn’t bothering or doing anything to anyone you see he was just fliming his hobby you see and minding his own business. Peter
@alanwood4968
@alanwood4968 6 дней назад
AS long as there are cameras viewing the people in all parts of cities towns villages then the bus companies are no different.
@AllensTrains
@AllensTrains Месяц назад
I have had this kind of trouble. I think the best thing to do is conceal the camera in something such as a rucksack!
@Pete1890
@Pete1890 Месяц назад
Hi I am sorry to hear that you have had this short of trouble before. No in my personal option you shouldn’t be stopped by people who don’t know the law properly and it’s legel to film buses and he was in the wrong saying that it’s illegal. Peter
@AllensTrains
@AllensTrains Месяц назад
@@Pete1890 It is all right to video buses on the public highway, but a bus station is technically private property. I would comply with a request to leave!
@Pete1890
@Pete1890 Месяц назад
@@AllensTrains Hi yes you are correct yes if he was filming inside of the Interchange then yes he would need to ask for permission by the owner but he was filming outside of the Interchange which is a public setting so he didn't need to ask permission to do that and that collegue was in the wrong of coming out and stopping him from filimg if he wasn't fliming in private property. Peter
@AllensTrains
@AllensTrains Месяц назад
@@Pete1890 You can determine who is correct, the video photographer or the bus man by obtaining the information from the Land Registry. Although the bus station is open to the public, if the bus company actually owns the pavement on which the video photographer is standing, then they have won the argument!
@MJ88Owl
@MJ88Owl Месяц назад
Yellow jacket lawyers are always the best aren’t they
@Pete1890
@Pete1890 11 дней назад
Hi there, anyone could do this it doesn’t matter what the person is wearing.
@stuarthollis1355
@stuarthollis1355 День назад
Nice one mate!! Sorted that knobhead in quick time. 😄😄😄😄
@Talkathon408
@Talkathon408 Месяц назад
Those buses should file for harrassment, especially the double decker. Not the plonker with the chip on his shoulder though.
@Pete1890
@Pete1890 Месяц назад
Hi do you actually mean the collegues driving the buses or just the vehicles it’s self?
@terryhall6766
@terryhall6766 Месяц назад
People have been filming buses since they were invented there is historical photographs and proof of buses in use containing accidents different historic bus types that would have been lost to history over the years.Many colleagues and myself were filmed in the ten years I served as a bus conductor in the seventies .The photographer’s who did so never got in our way but I’m pleased they filmed us for posterity.This world is getting crazy with paranoid people who think they have powers they do not .The photos of children is a different matter and should handled differently if abuse is suspected it should be reported.
@Pete1890
@Pete1890 Месяц назад
Intersting facts there Terry I agree with the majority of things you've said so far.
@Pete1890
@Pete1890 Месяц назад
Hi everyone, thank you very much for your options and comments on this video and thanks for your feedback everyone. Peter & The Bus Entertainment Team
@uptowndisco2
@uptowndisco2 24 дня назад
I was a Bus driver in the 70's there have always been coach photographers , back then they were welcome and some invited inside the Depo and workshops fo a look around and photograph , back then they never had video cameras and would often pay a bus fare to take a short tour , some with sound recorders who held the mic to the floor to record the engines on single deck coaches, I have even when out in the countryside stopped the bus so they could get a decent picture , a few have asked if I would like some pictures sent through the post to me (no internet) which they did send, these photographer's are like historians of transport keeping records of the same bus fleet number from new to scrap and private ownership .
@Pete1890
@Pete1890 23 дня назад
@@uptowndisco2 Hi there, he was currently in the wrong as you are correct as there is no illegal on him not being allowed to film there etc as there are many bus spotters out there who do recording and doing photos for a hobby and it is fine to do this. I hope this makes more sense Peter
@majorminor3367
@majorminor3367 Месяц назад
I get filmed often when driving in an out of the depots. Not a problem, cctv everywhere recording anyway. No problem talking to them, answering questions, and have shown some around vehicles that they want to take some closer footage of. I'm on the Isle of Man
@Pete1890
@Pete1890 Месяц назад
Hi yes there is a lot of people out there who like to film buses and their hobby’s etc this is true.
@mfinn80
@mfinn80 11 дней назад
I've photographed many buses in many different stations but that was from the pavement and not the station itself and not had any confrontations, only had one driver that shouted at me not to take a photo but that was on public land. Even when commonwealth games were on in Birmingham, there were a few of us taking photos and not once did we get stopped by the police.
@Pete1890
@Pete1890 10 дней назад
@@mfinn80 Hi, yes it’s a shame what has happened to other people though, to be honest I’ve had the same I’ve never experienced any trouble like this thankfully I’ve had no one come out to me and tell me to stop filming yet. Peter.
@johnwinterbottom4509
@johnwinterbottom4509 20 дней назад
in that very same bus station, whilst i was driving buses, i was filmed MANY times. and lived through it. just waved to bus spotters.
@Pete1890
@Pete1890 20 дней назад
@@johnwinterbottom4509 That’s interesting news to hear John thanks for sharing that information
@peterallen2904
@peterallen2904 3 дня назад
How can you catch a bus if you’re not allowed in the bus station?
@Pete1890
@Pete1890 3 дня назад
@@peterallen2904 Just simply board the bus you don’t need to film a bus to get on.
@colinmiller5502
@colinmiller5502 29 дней назад
They'll be telling us to stop trainspotting next.
@michaelfoster3959
@michaelfoster3959 13 дней назад
Is it private or not ? will somebody put up a legal sign so all will know.?
@Pete1890
@Pete1890 13 дней назад
@@michaelfoster3959 It is public! As it’s filmed outside of the interchange Micheal.
@heene
@heene 4 дня назад
Ther are more cameras of all types in the UK than most countries. Everyone here should be used to them by now, including him.
@GlidingTobster
@GlidingTobster Месяц назад
If you need background music for this; "Jeremy Soule - Harvest Dawn (Oblivion Soundtrack)"
@Pete1890
@Pete1890 Месяц назад
Thanks for your suggestion but I won’t require music for this video sorry.
@GlidingTobster
@GlidingTobster Месяц назад
@@Pete1890 Not even for a Breton NPC that's been given a Nord beard texture?
@pacerchaser9434
@pacerchaser9434 15 дней назад
Of course whilst they are objecting to enthusiasts with cameras half of the passengers in the bus station are busy video calling or taking selfies with all and sundry in the background!!
@Pete1890
@Pete1890 11 дней назад
Hi yes that shouldn’t be happening as it’s illegal to film in a private setting without the owners permission. But he was not doing anything illegal as he was in a public setting. Thanks, Peter
@Dicky104
@Dicky104 Месяц назад
Which country are we supposed to be in!
@Pete1890
@Pete1890 Месяц назад
Hi it’s England.
@robba1234
@robba1234 Месяц назад
Of course you can film in a public or publicly accessible place, basic photography law, oh that includes people no expectation of privacy in public, and data protection is for companies not individuals
@Pete1890
@Pete1890 11 дней назад
Hi, all I know is he was not doing anything illegal, and he was filling in a public setting which is legal however it is actually illegal to film in a private setting and you’d need the owners permission to do this first. I’m not just talking about bus stations I’m talking about any private setting such as a school or college or church etc. Peter
@johnUB4478
@johnUB4478 Месяц назад
A bus driver once said to me, that if i photographed his bus again, he'd ahove the camera up my backside, so i reported him to the company, who did nothing about it. I didnt even get a reply. What some drivers don't understand, is that were not photographing them, its the buses were interested in. I believe, that at one time, enthusiasts weren't allowed to photograph buses at the transport interchange in Sheffield. If you're stood in a public place, no one can stop you filming, or photographing, unless you're in the way of passengers, etc.
@Pete1890
@Pete1890 Месяц назад
Hi John, yes I would agree with your point of view in you stating that it’s not illegal requirement to film the buses and 100’s of people out there nearly do it on a daily basis. It’s only in a private setting you need permission to film but the collegue speaking to Sameoldfitup was in the wrong as he was on a public setting. Thanks, Peter
@johnUB4478
@johnUB4478 Месяц назад
@@Pete1890 I've actually seen a driver on their phone, whilst tur ING out of a bus station in Belfast, and another with a newspaper in their hand. Needless to say, I didn't take photos, as I don't wish to get bus drivers into trouble.
@Pete1890
@Pete1890 Месяц назад
@@johnUB4478 Hi John, I understand what you mean and your fears about getting them in trouble John, however I would have recommend that you reported this incident though as it's illegal to read or use your phone when you are driving. Like if you had reported the issue then something would have got shorted propaply even if nobody did much about it it's worth a try though John. Peter
@johnUB4478
@johnUB4478 Месяц назад
@@Pete1890 I've taken photos before now, and the drivers have put their duty cards over their faces.
@Pete1890
@Pete1890 Месяц назад
@@johnUB4478 Thats good to know John hopefully the issues you’ve had with bus drivers lately will get resolved for you.
@trevorwoodsmonkeyboy2220
@trevorwoodsmonkeyboy2220 19 дней назад
He even has a great big M for Muppet on his back , says it all really
@agentsuperdave2191
@agentsuperdave2191 13 дней назад
We have options on the law? Who knew.....
@Pete1890
@Pete1890 11 дней назад
Sorry for the late reply, yes I would agree many people will have different options on the law and it is nice to see everyone having a team discussion on here, to come up an agreement and soloution and that’s what we want on this RU-vid channel. So far, he was doing something legal in my opinion as I understand as he was fliming right outside a private setting however he was not in it, so he wasn’t doing anything illegal there. Thanks, Peter
@AGTC009
@AGTC009 24 дня назад
And what is he filming on his bodycam the lovely countryside ??...Plank !!
@harry1971
@harry1971 Месяц назад
i hope he is FIRED
@Pete1890
@Pete1890 Месяц назад
Hi Harry, I don't think he would get fired for this incident as he's not caused any harm or offense to anyone he was very confused with the law so I would have thought that when the police turned up I thought that the staff at the station or the police would have just spoke to him more about the law's and regualtions set out by the goverment. Anyways you are better off asking Sameoldfitup for more information on this, as I was not the one recording this incident and ask him if the police turned up etc. Thanks, Peter
@TheSadButMadLad
@TheSadButMadLad 22 дня назад
Filming is legal. Anywhere. Except in a prison or filming people involved in a court case. Also, in some military sites.
@TheSadButMadLad
@TheSadButMadLad 22 дня назад
An employee however cannot use a camera to record anything when they are working or using the camera on behalf of the company. Then GDPR rules kick in and informed consent must be sought first.
@Pete1890
@Pete1890 22 дня назад
@@TheSadButMadLad Hi no it is also illegal to film in a private setting too like for an example school or college without their consent.
@Bodkin_Ye_Pointy
@Bodkin_Ye_Pointy Месяц назад
Nit a resident of the UK anymore but I would like to here more about the legislative reference he quoted. I did work in Government with the law and it was the most common thing for people making an argument to cherry pick a piece out of legislation that was meant to be read in its entirety. Off the top of my head though I would even challenge that the videographer was in private land if that was a public service. Or have they privatised the buses now?
@Talkathon408
@Talkathon408 Месяц назад
Basically, the Data Protection Act 2018 still applies in the UK, as Brexit made GDPR redundant. The DPA only applies to companies or organisations, not private individuals. There is indeed no privacy in public although there are some exceptions that don't apply here. It's possible to get done for harrassment too if you're targeting individuals repeatedly but that wouldn't really apply to filming public servants going about their business. Lastly, whilst it's legal to film in public and publicly accessible areas, if it's private land the landowner does have the right to revoke your right of access although this would be trespass and a civil matter, so shouldn't involve the police unless it's aggravated, for e.g. if someone remained in a shop after it had closed.
@Pete1890
@Pete1890 Месяц назад
Hi there, no basically you can legally film public transport in public places and it isn’t illegal to do this the man in the video who came out and told him it’s illegal to film buses in a public place Sameoldfitup wasn’t doing anything illegal by fliming the buses he was in the wrong telling him it is and just generally trying to stop him from fliming and threatening to get the police involved for something they wouldn’t care about. If you are fliming a person individually on purpose let’s say for an example to try and catch a person out on something or recording a private conversation in purpose then that is illegal. But fliming just buses and following your hobby’s and dreams isn’t illegal your just fliming the vehicles. I hope that makes sense Peter
@defined12
@defined12 Месяц назад
@@Pete1890 It's not illegal to record conversations in public persay, even if they are 'private', it's more the intent that's the issue. Obviously if someone is going around targetting specific individuals then that's harrassment. The point is, many people think you need to seek their permission to record their conversations they're broadcasting in public spaces but this obviously is not the case, otherwise it would be illegal to do so. Ultimately as said it comes down to harrassment law and what you choose to do with the recording. Much to the surprise of many a RU-vidr, putting such a recording on RU-vid could potentially land you in some trouble, depending on the sensitivity of the information discussed, where it took place (e.g. a job centre). Just as the right to film is effectively protected by the Human Rights Act (Article 10), so is the right to privacy (Article 8). The point of the act is to try and strike a balance between competing rights. It's not as black and white as some RU-vidrs make out.
@Pete1890
@Pete1890 Месяц назад
@@defined12 Hi yes it's legal to film in a public setting like he was doing anyways as he was filming outside of the Interchange so he wouldn't need to ask for permission to film in a public setting. However you need to ask permission to film in a private setting as it's private property and I have searched this a few weeks ago and it is illegal to film in a private setting without permission as it's their own place they own and can get you in a lot of trouble if you are catched filimg in a private setting without permission. And recording someone's private conversation directly to them on purpose is illegal. I hope that makes sense Peter
@lucywoodhouse3674
@lucywoodhouse3674 Месяц назад
Jobs worth get him a CAP.
@michaelsandford1015
@michaelsandford1015 Месяц назад
He's a troll
@SatisFictionary
@SatisFictionary Месяц назад
If you can see it with your eyes, you can record it with your phone. Just look at the amount of ring doorbells and security cameras, do you honestly think they all asked everyone for their permission??????
@Pete1890
@Pete1890 Месяц назад
Hi yes I can confirm that this was filmed with my film however I did not actually record this video it was Sameoldfitup that recorded this video and was involved in this incident. However you can film in a pubilc setting as it's not legal to do this like he was doing anyways. However it is illegal to film in a private setting and you would need permission from the owner to film in a private setting. Thanks, Peter
@SatisFictionary
@SatisFictionary Месяц назад
@@Pete1890 Always remember, you can film a "private" area from a public place. For example, HM Prisons do not allow recording for obvious reasons, but there is no law stopping you from standing on public ground and pointing your camera toward the prison. Note that a lot of prisons have private roads to and around them for this reason. The same would apply to the private bus terminal, or anything else, if you can see it from a public area, you can film it from there.
@mattoverton4159
@mattoverton4159 14 дней назад
Don’t blame you for not moving you’re in public at the end of the day and you’re allowed to film whatever you can see with your eyeballs. People need to learn the law.
@Pete1890
@Pete1890 14 дней назад
@@mattoverton4159 Hi this was not me and it was someone else sorry.
@josephthompson1318
@josephthompson1318 10 дней назад
Most bus cos r public sponsered
@Mr.1.i
@Mr.1.i Месяц назад
bus stops are at the expense of the local bus company
@Pete1890
@Pete1890 Месяц назад
Hi no actually bus stops and bus stations are usually owned and made by the local council and not the bus company.
@Private-gy8nk
@Private-gy8nk Месяц назад
I use to be a bus driver in Swansea & was sacked as i had an agument with a bus spotter who was taking pictures when we was entering the bus terminal. I asked him to stop taking pictures to which he replied that he was in a public area blah blah blah , anyway after about 10 minutes of us arguing , a member of public was filming me which at the time i didnt know that , anyway she reported me to the company & i was sacked.
@firstman9273
@firstman9273 Месяц назад
As to your dismissal it depends in what manner you were speaking to the member of the public. As to filming in public, well, now you know.
@Pete1890
@Pete1890 Месяц назад
Hi there, well to be honest with you I think you was wasting your time doing that, and I wouldn’t recommend stopping people from fliming buses if they aren’t doing anything and they just want to film their hobby at the end of the day it isn’t illegal to film the buses. The only time you should tell her to stop fliming or taking photos if she’s doing something bad on purpose like recording a private conversation, or catching an individual out on purpose as that is illegal and that can get you in a lot of trouble. Peter
@stuartbrown8259
@stuartbrown8259 Месяц назад
Well you brought that upon yourself by getting into a pointless argument for no reason. Perhaps from that day forward if you see someone filming or taking pictures, you will just ignore them when in public. Simple question for you, I'm assuming you must have believed that the person with the camera was doing something illegal for you to do what you did, who told you that?
@noelsalisbury7448
@noelsalisbury7448 Месяц назад
What was your objection - it's only a bus /bus station. It's not like filming Armed Forces/Police/ Government Biological - Chemical Weapons ( as at Porton Down ) - is it ?
@Pete1890
@Pete1890 Месяц назад
@@stuartbrown8259Hi i actually don’t believe that it is illegal to film in public. No I wasn’t in this video Sameoldfitup recorded this and he was the one who had that argument I was just using his voice for a reaction video. So any questions you’d have to comment over to Sameoldfitup sorry as I was not involved in this. Peter
@duncanknifton6613
@duncanknifton6613 Месяц назад
so is he against bus spotting then.... hahaha
@Pete1890
@Pete1890 Месяц назад
Hi it seems to be yes as he was in the wrong to tell him to stop filming the buses as he was filming in a pubilc setting which is legal do however it is illegal to film in a private setting without asking for the owners permission first. Peter
@johnfisher986
@johnfisher986 24 дня назад
Bus spotting is a hoby. Bus spotters know more about history of most buses and coaches .
@Pete1890
@Pete1890 23 дня назад
@@johnfisher986 I would agree with you there you’ve got a brilliant point John.
@OrdinaryBloke66
@OrdinaryBloke66 5 дней назад
🤡 that guy hay a boyfriend half his age and thinks everyone he talks to is him.
@gbhxu
@gbhxu Месяц назад
Location - Filming on the Interchange itself. Even though it's a public place, owned by Transport For Greater Manchester, therefore private property. Had he been stood on the road he'd have been OK. GDPR - Still applies to a single person. So giving out details of a bus, e.g. number plate, make, etc would be seen as breech of GDPR. My main concern would be publishing the video without the permission of Metro employee
@Pete1890
@Pete1890 Месяц назад
Hi no he was still in a public setting as he was outside of the interchange if he was in a private setting as you say private property like inside the interchange yes I would agree he would need permission to film. However it is not illegal to film outside of the interchange though and that collegue was in the wrong and was not doing any harm to anyone or fliming in a private setting. With regards to the number plate that can’t be really helped to have access to and plus it’s not private as you can access many bus number plates on the internet. Peter
@miketaverner4451
@miketaverner4451 9 дней назад
Its a public space 100% legal right to film
@Pete1890
@Pete1890 9 дней назад
@@miketaverner4451 We agree with you Mike, which we have stated to the majority of our customers.
@davidlamont5793
@davidlamont5793 Месяц назад
Any thing you can see in public you can film and you can film into private property if the private property can be viewed from public property .. if you dont want to be viewed in private property build a big wall ... but just remember that when you build that wall you might as well put a roof on it because you can still be filmed using a drone 😂😂😂😂
@Pete1890
@Pete1890 Месяц назад
Hi David, you can definitely film in a public setting which is where he was fliming and it’s not illegal to do this however you do need permission to film in you’re in a private setting though. Peter
@defined12
@defined12 Месяц назад
@@Pete1890 What do you mean by 'private setting'? Anything that's publicly accessible is a public space, whether it be privately owned or not. The only exception are places the public cannot access without appointments or areas within public spaces signs stating the public cannot enter. On private land however, your implied right of access can be revoke, in which case the issue becomes trespass which is a civil matter. Potentially the landowner could then use reasonable force to remove you from the property but if they don't ask you to leave, then technically this right of access has not been revoked. Some security guards go hands on without doing this and open themselves up to assault claims.
@Pete1890
@Pete1890 Месяц назад
@@defined12 Hi when I mean private setting I mean private property basically no you do need to ask for permission off the owner if you can film in their private setting e.g for an example the Interchange a school or college. I just searched this up a few weeks ago it is illegal to film in a private setting without asking the owner for their permission first as it can get you in a lot of trouble if you are catched doing this without permission. He was in the right though as he was filimg in a public setting, and that collegue was in the wrong as it's legal to film buses like he was in you're in a public setting you see. Peter
@defined12
@defined12 Месяц назад
@@Pete1890 how is it illegal Peter? They can't sue you just because you stepped onto their property and filmed them. As long as the area is publicly accessible you haven't broken any laws. The moment they ask you to leave, you leave. If you don't, then it's trespass and they could I guess pursue a civil claim but that wouldn't go anywhere and would have nothing to do with you filming.
@Pete1890
@Pete1890 Месяц назад
@@defined12 Hi yes you would leave if they got asked to do so, as that is trespassing in towards their private property. However I aren’t too sure on how it’s illegal on this sorry I just learnt that it’s illegal to film in a private setting as it’s private property and that’s what I learned at college recently as we learn a lot of consent. I believe the reason it is illegal is because your filming in another owner’s private property you see and I just believe you can get in a lot of trouble for it if you don’t ask for their permission first that’s what I was told.
@franklogan7557
@franklogan7557 3 дня назад
What is this man trying to prove
@chrisvachos1589
@chrisvachos1589 12 дней назад
Can’t fix stupid full stop 😂😂😂
@user-ez9kd4sy3f
@user-ez9kd4sy3f 20 дней назад
What a clown, people film buses every day they have time off, never understand the reason, but just like train spotters, buses have their following to.
@Pete1890
@Pete1890 19 дней назад
@@user-ez9kd4sy3f Hi it’s a shame really now what I personally think he was doing was legal however I think lots of people seem to be confused with the law on this as I can tell from the few other comments on this video as everyone seems to have different views and options which makes it confusing. Thanks, Peter
@johnaldred6864
@johnaldred6864 10 дней назад
A total Twit ..!
@user-bz3nj1gj5i
@user-bz3nj1gj5i 18 дней назад
I’m fed up with the people that keep filming these videos they are antagonising these situations to prove silly points like I can film here personally I don’t want you filming me walking along but you seem to think that’s ok
@Pete1890
@Pete1890 18 дней назад
@@user-bz3nj1gj5i Hi it’s not what I think at all, it’s because of I am only saying what I have read off the law. It is legal to film in a public setting like he was, and filming in a private setting is illegal.
@user-bz3nj1gj5i
@user-bz3nj1gj5i 18 дней назад
@@Pete1890 but still he was antagonising the security guard into a silly argument why doesn’t he film something constructive not causing an argument for no reason
@melbeeswax6087
@melbeeswax6087 9 дней назад
Well, look at it this way. Suppose someone carried out an attack at a bus station or somewhere like that and people were seriously injured. The during the inquiry it turned out that the perpetrator had planned the attack meticulously including doing a video reconnaissance of the area. Would people then ask why was he not challenged when he was doing that. I expect that some people who point out that it is legal to film in public would adk 'why didn't somebody do somethin?' The fact is whilst it isn't illegal it can be viewed as suspicious which prompts the interaction with the security/police. That's why these people do it. The want the engagement so that they can then have the 'it's all legal, even though its odd' conversation. At a time of heightened tension it's really the last thing anyone needs in having to deal with someone deliberately acting suspiciously when there may be genuine threats going on. Still, you can't account for folk. You are all allowed to act how we like within the boundaries of the law. I wonder how am 'auditor' would feel if they had inadvertently diverted police resource to deal with them and a serious incident occurred whilst it was going on? My guess would be to blame the authorities for that too.
@michaelsandford1015
@michaelsandford1015 Месяц назад
It's stupid
@user-nr7jm1so5j
@user-nr7jm1so5j 11 дней назад
Doofus protection act. Act smarter!
@edwardmullins2716
@edwardmullins2716 Месяц назад
just get a job as a bus driver simple really insted of recording busses lol
@Pete1890
@Pete1890 Месяц назад
Hi some people wouldn’t be able to drive as of yet I’m only 16 sorry so I can’t drive yet you see. Him in the video who was recording it could probably drive. Peter
@edwardmullins2716
@edwardmullins2716 Месяц назад
@@Pete1890 still also i dont agree with how he acted and also bus stations are public land not private so he was also a clown
@Pete1890
@Pete1890 Месяц назад
@@edwardmullins2716 Hi Edward, yes I would agree with you there I would not agree with how he acted either as he wasn't causing any harm or doing anything illegal actually. If he was filimg in a private setting which is private property so inside the interchange then it is illegal to film in a private setting without asking for the owner's permission. Thanks, Peter
@defined12
@defined12 Месяц назад
@@Pete1890 Okay your age changes things slightly as you're not technically an adult so the security guard has an extra duty of care toward you. There is other legislation they must consider, especially if they want to detain you and potentially go hands on even if it's just escorting you off private property. I forget what legislation. This is clearly public property though. A security guard grabbing hold of someone who's technically a child could result in some pretty serious criminal charges. But then it does happen a lot.
@Pete1890
@Pete1890 Месяц назад
@@defined12 Hi yes your right it is illegal to hold charges on a child as this can get you in trouble and it’s the parents and teachers responsibility to deal with their child’s actions if they do anything wrong.
@tommygunn1887
@tommygunn1887 Месяц назад
Being a waste of space isn't against the law but this tool with a camera is one.
@Pete1890
@Pete1890 Месяц назад
Hi Tommy, that’s true for him he’s just seems to be wasting his own time by going out there and telling him it’s illegal to film in public when it isn’t. Peter
@Nilzipan
@Nilzipan 3 дня назад
Wjat an absolute embarrassment of a human bring 😂😂😂😂😂
@andrewgalbraith2588
@andrewgalbraith2588 18 дней назад
Jog on hi viz . You know nothing...
@smith.....
@smith..... 21 день назад
What a bell end
@sarto7bellys
@sarto7bellys Месяц назад
Bloke in HiVis what a C ee y U o N ext T uesday
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