(Read description) Is Defense Overrated in Terraria? 

Will Bungee every stop abruptly ending his videos? The world may never know...

All my homies love movement speed

As the saying goes, "If it can kill you in three hits, then it will kill you in three hits."

"Is Defense Overrated in Terraria?" "Is Attack Damage Overrated in Terraria?" "Is Terraria Overrated in Terraria?"

"the damage taken isnt noticeable" for summoner: 120 dmg for melee: 60-70 dmg, literally almost halved

who gave you permission to film my tiny house in the middle of nowhere that is plagued every night by swarms of eyeballs, bouncing moistly off the roof...?

'Or going to this blue idiot and reforging all your accessories to a damage increasing modifier. but good luck with that.' *Gets menacing many times*

you forgot the best alternative to defense: "just don't get hit, lol"

Petition to add a "Goblin Tinkerer Voodoo Doll" in the game

1:37 125~ damage vs 75~ damage. I mean you kind of just showed how Defense can make a significant difference. Being able to survive a hit or two against bosses that hit hard is bigger than you make it out to be. Max Health and Defense define the amount of mistakes you can get away with while fighting bosses, and naturally, the more mistakes you're allowed to make, the easier it is to win. Being able to survive for longer also means more health regeneration & health potions. I don't know how to word it but, the more survivability you already have from defense, the even longer you will survive in the long run thanks to health regen & being able to drink more health potions. You even said it was especially viable against random mobs, which is half of the game. Hell, from my experience, going full tank/warding on Melee is easier than being glass cannon on any other class depending on the boss, because health regen + potions render you almost unkillable as long as you don't get hit too many times in a short amount of time. That applies to some Calamity bosses on Revengeance mode too, even. They say you don't need defense if you can just not get hit, but likewise, you don't need to put as much effort into beating the game if defense can keep you alive for much, MUCH longer depending on the setup and boss.

"The extra defense of a melee character is negligible" me seeing that its about a hundred damage less. Ah yes "negligible"

Well i prefer farming like two hours for 1 defense instead of having 0

“A warrior can only take a couple more hits than a summoner” *me with my full tank load out being able to tank mastermode moonlord* “uh huh*

Defence? What's this Defence your talking about? Me and my summons don't know what your talking about...

Now I wanna see someone play terraria with 0 defense the whole game.

1:42 "the difference is pretty neglible" Summoner taking 120 Warrior taking 70 I think that 40% isn't neglible

I like how there was no one listed in "Emotional support" in the credits, lmao.

Me with 100% damage reduction: oh hi there

"defense doesnt matter if you dodge everything" -Someone In UI

2:18 "A fresh character *also has one of the best wings in the game*

great video, and remember kids: always focus on movement speed it's worst to take less damage from a hit than to not get hit at all

The best defence is picket

I find stacking defensive stats an amazing strategy on melee characters, defense being one of them. By raising your defense as high as possible with a combination of warrior armor, a couple of defense accessories, and "warding" prefixes you can easily get it so high up that it will pick up some slack for your damage resistance and, eventually, health regen. It is the most mathematically efficient way to play warrior as well, because what other build can kill the hardest boss, on the hardest difficulty, without post-progression gear and any exploits, by standing still and clicking your mouse? Not only that, in 1.4 this playstyle received probably the most buffs: it now adds attack speed to your knuckles and defense to your turtle shell; meanwhile new ways of stacking accessories on other classes barely changed their outputs (the only valuable change I can think of right now is double scope, and even that requires you to give up one of accessories you would previously use instead). All and all, despite all the passiveness of defense stat (you can get away with only using what comes with your armor that you use for all the damage bonuses), building your strategy around maximizing your defense is not just viable, but sometimes even preferable option.

Well, I always say, "If you want me to use defense because it's shorter than damage reduction, my answer will be no, because it's shorter than yes."

Wait. Y’all wear armor for defence and not attack boost?

I sure do like when the bungee uploads

As someone who has only ever done Warrior builds in Terraria, I can confirm that having high Defense with high Defense Reduction can make even the strongest attacks in the game tickle you.

imagine not just knowing how to dodge everything and actually needing armor for things other than the time you have to sneeze mid fight

"What's the point of maximum defense if you can't get hit?" -some internet people that i forget the name

Friendship ended with defense now damage reduction is my best friend

1:11 skeleton in sky

5:27 maybe reds potion on regular world, isn't the best damage boosting buff...

I feel like it would've been a good idea to also talk about I-frames as that can play a very big role in survivability

I always found that defense becomes less useful the further into the game you get. I eventually ditch warding gear for damage and crit modifiers.

Normally in boss fights, you don't kill them before their attack patterns go off even with a full damage build, and on the contrary, defense is very helpful for covering up for your mistakes when you are inevitably faced with their patterns, so no defense is not overrated in my opinion.

This much editing and only 18K subs?? U deserve more, take my sub

"head over to this blue guy to get a damage increasing modifier, but good luck with that" *proceeds to get menacing 3 times*

The difference between a summoner and a warrior, warrior takes 70s summoner takes 125s that's almost twice more EHP for warriors than summoners Defense is invaluable because it makes undodgable attacks less impactful and allows you to focus on dodging the real hard hits like moon lord lasers or destroyer's head

This video helped cure my severe reallynotgoodatthegameitus. thank you for this wonderful video.

Omg you used the mario and luigi bowser's inside story music I love it

Calamity has definitely taught me it's best to be a glass cannon.

I’ve always gone for movement over defense, I have spent a lot of time trying to no-hit bosses for bets I made with friends, so that probably is a big factor

Never seen one of your videos before, gotta say the thumbnail made it impossible not to click on it. Well done sir

I think melee is great for higher difficulties when playing with other people, since in hardmode you can keep bosses on the person with the high defense, and if that person is good with boss patterns, it makes for a great co-op combo. Otherwise in master worthy if you’re by yourself you might as well run summoner and live the glass cannon life :>

in the credits it says "quality control: some rat I found in my closet

Me: Remembers my character who min-maxed defense, making pretty much every boss in Master mode an absolute joke, taking dozens of hits to kill, even for Moon Lord. I don't think defense is overrated, it's kind of OP if you build for it. Edit: A late edit, but specifically, my character had a defense of 147 (before consumable buffs and other defense increasing objects, like the cat statue), whilst also having upwards of 74% damage reduction (29% inherently, 49% when Solar Armor's shield is up, and an additional 25% increase when below half HP). So yeah, hard to kill build, especially when you acknowledge health regeneration and potions. Hell, most of Master Mode Moonlord's attacks did under 10 damage to me per attack. So yeah, Defense build is busted when focused on.

Seven years of terraria and I still get to learn something from a pretty fresh view! Thanks bro.

My favorite way to increase survivability is simple evasion. Which makes things like the the Shield of Cthulhu _essential._ Hooks are also pretty good at that, especially when used with platforms.

Defense more like THE fence “BADUM TSS”

"Is Defense Overrated in Terraria?" Me, after a master playthrough going full defense melee: Yes, yes it is

Thank you for giving some love to the god tier soundtrack of inside story

With medium core master mode defense is a peace of mind. It’s nice not having everything kill you almost instantly and having to go get your stuff

The first time me and my cousin played terraria we thought melee was the best bc of the high defense but still used ranger and mage weapons XD

Calamity be like: heavy breathing

The moment the video started playing, I heard a song from the Mario and Luigi's Bowser Inside Story OST. What a throwback, that alone deserves a like.

Near the start, my brain immediately went, "What if you just wanna shake off a stray hit when, otherwise, it'd be the death of you?", but watching 'till the end gave me new ideas for where to take my character, and reading the description gave me a bit of context.

5:45 "You'll be getting good reforges only slightly more consistently" *He says after getting Menacing on his 2nd reforge*

There is ONE more way to increase your survivability, and that’s through mobility. I may sound like an elitist here but it’s far more practical to not get hit entirely than to TRY to survive something. We all mess up every now and again but with proper mobility, dodging attacks is a breeze, and with decent regeneration allows you to regenerate the damage taken from an attack before you get hit by the next, drastically increasing how long you can stay alive.

2:14 “To a fresh character, this situation would be absolutely terrifying.” To a fresh character, the situation that your house is in the jungle is absolutely terrifying.

This guys good, can’t wait for more content

You forgot the best method of increasing survivability: Don’t get hit. But what do you expect from some video with a rat on quality control lmao

I would rather have all warding accessories on every class except melee

Bro I gotta fucking love your background music

One time my friends opened a survival server and we played together. It was on master mode so bosses dealt alot of damage. I went for tank role(beetle armor, defense equipment, vampire knives) and just stand still in honey while my friends destroy the boss. 1 person going as tank helps a lot when you play with 3 or more people. And also equip flesh knuckles for your team's sake

Dude this guy is great WHY AM I NOT SUBBED

The most of my accessory slots are usually dedicated to movement (except for double jump when I have flight because it messes with me) And raw damage boosting stuff I definitely play glass Cannon characters a lot

Outside of master mode, defense is still frankly useless. Damage and mobility are far, far superior options.

It's kind of funny that you mentioned the offense strategy, considering I have two strats in Terraria I equip my items that increase my minions and then equip damage boosting items. Or alternatively I just go full DPS with an entire loadout based on boosting my melee damage. So whippy summoner boi or stabby boi. Edit: if you want to go for this strategy if I remember correctly the modifier you want for your accessories is menacing

I like adding modifiers to items for builds that lack in that area. For instance, on my summoner character, everything is reforged to warding, as summoners lack defense, and on my ranger build, everything is reforged to quick, as rangers lack movement speed.

In that final bit where he is at the goblin he got menacing on the third one i think

Should mention that in multiplayer things are quite different. With stacking Defense and DR from the turtle/beetle set, Hero's Shield, Frozen Shield, worm scarf, etc., and having another player with the spectre set healing you while you draw monster aggression can make you nearly invincible against most bosses. Even if it would only allow you to survive 1 extra hit on your own against a boss, the added healing means that you would be able to take 8-10 more hits as the reduced damage helps the healing outpace the boss's damage.

Aggressive: Terraria can be very unforgiving "sometimes". Me: yeah "sometimes"

Lovin the bowsers inside story music

I like your funny words magic man

Gotta love that bowsers inside story music

Keep it up your vides are the best

hehe i love the music. Mario and Luigi Bowser's Inside Story if I'm not mistaken

Agreed, I value good mobility and damage output over defense. I've got a suggestion, could you do an analysis which is more effective: Damage increase or critical strike chance? When you go glass cannon, is it better to aim for menacing or lucky modifiers? -or whatever goblin gives you first- I've seen people debating about this and I'm still uncertain.

I love that inside story music.

I was expecting that abrupt ending to be fake but it was actually a legit end to the video XD

I think depending on the boss and class etc. If you think you should go for defense you need to consider if it's going to allow you to survive much more hits. Like moonlord on master with a summoner. Even if you go for warding on all accessories and have a few defense increasing accessories your not gonna really survive much more hits than if you just went max damage for a summoner. You might survive 1 more hit from moonlord but the fight would go on for much longer since you went for defense and the longer the fight the more chance you have of taking damage and dying.

"Cant die if i cant get hit" -Mad ink [Animating & music]

there also is one unmentioned and often underused type of "DR", regeneration. using Squires Great Helm Valhalla knight's breastplate and band of regen, charm of myths, shiny stone, celestial stone, etc. is basically like defense, but its strengths and weaknesses are multiplied, MUCH better with chip damage, but worse with hard hits.

I'd say DR is the general term for reducing damage, so defense, percentage, and dodge chance are subcategories of DR. and just like band of regeneration & charm of myths, you can raise dodge chance by equipping both master ninja gear and the black belt, I think.

Well, it's my first run on Hardcore Mode after years of not playing. After testing (Pre-Hardmode) i got this: For exploration/invasion i use the most defense, Molten Armor and such. For bosses, like Skeletron, i got an easier time as a Mage than a Melee. So yeah, relying too much on defense is not gonna help much, better go for a good def, use potions and focus on speed and boosting the hell out your damage.

the massive number of demon eyes just look terrifying yet mesmerizing

1:13 ok now its my first time seeing that skeletron cloud on the right side of the screen

Vortex: I have the best armor and set bonus Solar flare: no I have the best armor and set bonus “amateurs” Stardust: What was that punk! Beetle armor: *AMATEURS*

This is why you should have a mod pack for major mod play throughs like calamity or spirit

Well, theres this accessory dropped by mimics that enables after getting hit and has a cloak upgrade that has longer time. What are other items that grants on taking damage?

I use mobility, defense, and mid-range positioning to minimize the amount of dmg I take while also using longer-ranged melee weapons such as the solar eruption, I would say terra blade at extremely long ranges, but I crafted Zenith with it. My build usually shifts, but it is primarily an obsidian shield, fire gauntlet(or charm of myths if I'm struggling with health), master ninja gear, Frostspark boots, celestial shell, and wings(pretty obvious). And after reforging two of them to warding, I managed to actually beat the moon lord, so defence, not negligible.

My way of playing consists in a mix of better attack and RUNNING AWAY Equipment consists of : - Weapons that allow to attack from far away without having to target too much, 'cause when you're dodging-running everywhere and are focusing on where you'll land next, trying to be snipping isn't the best solution (weapons with auto-aim, wide range or easy-to-master placement include : demon scythe, bee gun, magnet sphere, daedalus stormbow, most magic endgame weapons, auto-aiming ammos, etc) - Armor that states up your weapon's damages - Obsidian/ankh shield because knockback can make your escape harder - An equipment that allows dashing (shied of cthulhu, tabi, master ninja gear), very good to avoid hits at the last moment as well as outrun attacks and ennemies that are normally faster than you (grappling hooks also help with that) - Regenerations items, because you won't be able to dodge forever, you'll inevitably have moments of inattention, but if you manage not to have too many of them it will allow you to keep an acceptable health level - Wings with a high vertical speed (horizontal speed will be compensated by the ability to dash), also a good mastering of your grappling hook will allow you to recharge them without having to land on the ground - Modifications that increase critical hit chances, more effective against ennemis with a high defense than just more damage Optional : - Rod of discord, can help avoid big and slow attacks like death rays (don't use it too often or you'll take more damages than if you had just stayed still to take the attack directly) PS : also whatever your class is, minions and sentries will always help

This is why, in my opinion, post plantera is when melee shines, maybe even before if you cheese Plantera. Then you get the Vampire knifes which complements DR and defence amazingly. Then you get bettle armor shell, which is literally perfect for defence, and congrats you now have practically everything available to you for phase tanking Moonlord.

That its why i stack dodge +Lucky (4%crit) and life regen. Only the deadlyest blows can stop you if you go with that set and you will be dishing the deadliest blows

Set bonuses are the biggest point of armor because for summoners you can have more summons for melee users it can make their weapons have more range so less hits taken for rangers it can make them fire faster and for mages it can make their mana regenerate faster

I've been thinking about making a tank build for a while now on playstation I could grab the master ninja gear instead of relying on the quickly fading set bonus of solar armor so I can always dash even when taking 3 hits quickly, plus evasion chance. Damage reduction accessories with Warding on them would really help too and I could also probably take teammates damage for them _hopefully, I gotta figure out how those work_ It'll definitely be a nice change from my glass cannon Violently Lucky build I've always had fun with, but then again I need friends to play with ;-;

Hi bungee. And what about star veil? is it a good way to decrease incoming damage? or its better to use some other accesories?

That’s why i balance everything I can So I didn’t choose a class, I just use what’s more convenient So I’ll use a mix of melee, range, mage, and summon when,where, and what situation that I can. For example I may use nights edge on the hungries and then use my hell bow and water bolt to get the wall of flesh to 20% health and then finish off with beenades since I want to save as much beenades as I can since jungle biomes are harder in hard mode or what I call it act 2.

Me in For The Worthy(Master Mode):Hallow armor go brrrrrr

The main reason I still like having a decent amount of defense is that a lot of mid range attacks will deal only like 1 damage instead of like 20-30, which does make a big difference. But yeah the heavier an attack is the less it matters. Still bosses can get a lot more chip damage on you with their weaker attacks if your defense isn't on point