Reading negative reviews for Hades 2 nearly killed me. | Haelian 

not enough sex in the game

Sleeping Hypnos be like: I hate this game because it is WOKE >:[

People complaining about it being "Woke" is the funniest shit to me because they either have never played the first game, or have no concept of media literacy. It's not like Zagreus was Bi in the first game, Achilles, Patroclus and Thanatos were Gay, Chaos was Non-Binary and Dusa/Artemis were Aro/Ace... Right? Right???

Melinoë wrote that last review

"I loved Hades I. In Hades II they changed too much and kept everything the same. I can't believe I have to unlock things. I hate this game in its completely finished state. Also, women existing in media makes me irrationally angry." - 100 hours on record

I feel like a good chunk of people just miss dashing everywhere and aren’t vibing with the new cast in its place

I absolutely love that one of the only times he gets properly animated is when someone has the gall to insult Scylla. As it should be. She's my awful, beautiful murder wife.

Honestly some of these reviews are just incorrect, “it’s a reskin” ITS TWICE THE SOZE OF HADES 1 AND ITS STILL IN EARLY ACCESS

The people who have only about an hour played or somehow less always bother me the most, it's like they played one run, probably died to some basic enemy in erebus and said "yeah this game officially sucks more then hades 1" its a ROGUELITE PUT SOME ACTUAL TIME INTO IT

I will say the slowness of the dash did feel really weird at first coming from the previous game. Then I actually played the game more and it feels totally fine now lmao.

It's silly how infuriated I was by the one review that complained about hating the inclusion of pentagrams, because ""they aren't even Greek." Bestie... it's a shape. It is not owned by any culture, or religion. And even if we disregard that, its uses are older than Ancient Greece, and it was "discovered" independently many times, by different cultures/civilizations, who inscribed different meanings and symbolism to it. Oh, and one of those cultures was actually Ancient Greece... Like, how can you be so confidently wrong, on so many levels, in a single sentence?

I'm convinced that these people are just so used to their endgame Hades 1 file that they've completely forgotten what the actual game progression is like.

For the person who complained about it being slow: I think they are referring to the movement and this is mostly the 1 vs 2 dash thing. With multiple dashes it feels like you're flying all over the place, where with just one you have to be more tactical. (I've actually come to like the 1 dash more)

While there are some legit negative reviews that point out real problems with the game, i feel like most of the negative reviews are just "early access game doesn't have as much content as fully released game, therefore this game is bad"

for a valid negative review, I hope they implement a way to exchange more unused inventory items for bones at the broker. I wanna exchange more than just seeded plants and fish. I have way too much ash and psyche now, and a bunch of stuff like moss from the surface, etc. in the first game, we could exchange almost everything for something else. here, only fish and seeded things can be exchanged for bones, and only bones can buy other things at the broker.

Reminds me of when the game came out and random weirdos "transvestigated" Aphrodite's arts from both games, like wtf is wrong with these people

i’ve been singing “i am gonna claw out your eyes and drown you to death” under my breath ever since I started playing Hades II and my family is starting to get concerned

I think the slowness is largely the changes to the dash. Melinoe does fell different to control than zag did. However I personally welcome the diversity.

I do understand the pause thing in chronos fight being frustrating, especially if you dont know about it beforehand, because theres a 3 second delay before he unpauses your game if you need to do something you'll prob be up and gone by the time he unpauses. Imagine coming back from doing the laundry or washing dishes and then you see your absolutely broken 100% run ended without ANY input from you and you have no idea why. Id be LIVID, of course i understand why its there, but the fact that its there in the first place can be frustrating. Ive always had these issues with anti-walk away systems, especially in games like Splattoon or Valorant, where the player gets punished because they had to leave early, id understand if it was a ranked game but any other gamemode shouldnt get me banned for a while just because i prioritize living my life instead of videogames, people shouldn't be punished for needing a break.

Why are so many people complaining about hades going “woke” the first game was just as progressive as the sequel

I kinda mashed through the original hades with two dashes and in hades2 you cant do that and i kinda appreciate that. you cant just mash a botton and wish it works, you have to understand what you are doing. also being able to sprint is really nice when theres a bunch of projectiles flying around and you want to move fast but if you mindlessly dash youll get hit when the s run out. although I totally get that the two dashes feels nice, its a valid complaint. maybe the devs will add reverse arcana card or something in the future and you can choose between faster sprint and multiple dashes, since they already did the reverse thing in the mirror in original hades.

Most of the complains here just seem like skill issue because they cant spam dash anymore lol

This man nearly died, thank you for your sacrifice

It’s funny how the people will complain that is too much like the first game, but then ALSO complain about what makes Melinoë play differently from Zagreus. Like yeah in the first hour of playing Hades 2 it felt extremely weird and clunky because I kept trying to approach playing it in the same way you do Hades 1, once you enter in the mindset that OH this is a different game that plays differently, you get the gameplay and start to appreciate the differences. Like I learned to love the Sprint, even tho I do think they should make clearer effects to show what it actually does. But the game feels so unique while also being…More hades. Also unironically I feel like a lot of people will come into the game not wanting to give a fair shot because you play with a woman this time lmao.

There are a few mistakes in the game, game related mistakes, like one art of Melinoe not matching the OG model, hit-boxes failing etc. But a lot of this negative reviews and criticism are basically ''female main character, strong women in positions of power, ficticional characters being represented as any race other than Caucasian, disable characters, not creative enough, not accurate enough to Greek mythology, no sex scenes, not obvious exaggerated male gaze fanservice''. Or to put it simply ''this game is woke REEEEEEEEE''.

While I don't know if guy complaining about holding buttons has this, if they did they'd prpbably articulate it better, but I do know some disabled people can struggle with button holds as an accesibility issue, so having a toggle to enable sprint as an optional setting would be nice.

The chronos pause complaint is something ive seen multiple times in the feedback on the supergiant discord, which is something i feel is a valid critique as it comes out of nowhere, impacts people disproportionately depending on external factors (sometimes you just gotta pause because of responsibilities or physical issues, a game that can handle it shouldnt punish you for that), can only be turned off after you beat the boss at least thrice, and only adds a cute wink and a nod. I would be in favor of just flat out removing it for the players who need it, the players who think its cool can manage where others cannot

I like playing as Mel cuz 1 (she’s bad af) and 2 I can’t wait to hear the potential sibling banter she and zag may have

My rational part is telling me that ppl can review games however they like, and for the most part, their feelings are valid, but my irrational part is summoning the dark urge or some shit reading some of these reviews :`(

I am one minute in and I can already see the vein on Dans forehead getting bigger and bigger.

This reminds me of what happened when Doom Eternal released, a lot of people tried playing it like it was Doom 2016 and naturally got their butts kicked then proceeded to call the game bad rather than adapt. History does repeat itself, it seems

I feel like a lot of these people forgot what a fresh file in the first game was like, and are comparing early access fresh file of Hades 2 to end-game fully-upgraded Hades 1

The people complaining the game isn't attractive enough are weak and will not survive the winter, on has my weak lesbian self constantly going ooouuggg yes ma'am, especially when circe makes melinoe large and her voice deepens? Gay enlightenment. More for me to enjoy I guess

I feel like Hades 2 filters out all the fake Hades lovers that only like playing the game in a very specific way that incorporates button spam. It’s disgusting that people can be so resistant to difference between SEPARATE products

>hades 2 is bad, its woke >play hades 1 instead dont give the woke studio your money for this garbage, give the woke studio your money for a different, related game instead what???

99% of bad reviews on hades 2 have less than 2 hours played, enough said.

You should see the cringe shit people are posting in the update comments. It's genuinely pathetic and awful. Notice how many of the review only have an hour or two of gameplay, if that. They unironically played the first run, maybe went through a 2nd run and said “nah, this is a reskin” or “nah, this is a downgrade from the first.” They aren't even attempting to give the game a fair chance, and can't even reflect on how the first hour of Hades 1 was arguably worse than the first hour of Hades 2.

For the comment about having things right away: I started a new save file in hades 1 a few months before hades 2 came out, and I got frustrated because farming darkness (the drops to update the mirror) was so painful and grindy. You need like 1000-2000 for one re-roll and you get like 50 I think for a room (or was it even less?). Edit: I still love hades 1 a lot, I was just surprised because I hadn’t noticed the first time because I wasn’t good enough then

The guy about Chronos is right though. It's a very cool and funny concept until you actually need to pause the game, then it's just punishing you for something outside your control

10:25. They must just mash the button at a feral pace and pray it works out for them. I feel personally attacked.

Unhealthy concentrated dosage of internet rage.... idk if reading all that is worth it.

i despise what right-wing media has done to bastardize the term 'woke', associating such a negative connotation to it when in reality a 'woke' mindset would make our society better for everyone involved

6:36 2 cutscenes actually, there's the one in the crossroads with child mel, and the one after you defeat cronos when you play Hades in Tartarus

People do be talking mad shit on the internet. I can understand why Melinoe doesn't like the Sirens' songs, they are trying to kill her as they play, but that soundtrack is AMAZING

It’s hilarious to me that people complain about certain weapons being weak when you can literally go to the speed run charts and see just how powerful each weapon and it’s various aspects can get. Like yeah I’m terrible with the skull and torches. But I see them 6 minute speedruns. I’m aware this is a me issue and not a game issue lol.

I do get the complaints about boon variety, but it's EA so I wouldn't be too hard on them. My biggest nit-pick is the lack of dash-related boons, something which I loved in Hades 1. Everything else I got used to pretty quick. Originally didn't enjoy the magic mechanics & omega attacks, but slowly I've come to enjoy them. Edit: And yes, I also disliked sprint for a long time when I first started too 😅 Not sure if it's necessarily better than Hades 1, but it's different enough while still being usable. Hex stuff is a bit different, as it's something I tend to avoid unless there's no other boons available. Maybe if other gods gave different hexes I might be more interested, but with them all being Selene & not that great, it's pretty hit or miss. Still love the game though, so any complaints I have won't stop me from enjoying what's there.

3:50 The game is slower, more methodical. The whole Omega moves mechanic takes time to wind up, something that in the first game only happened with a couple weapons (mainly the shield and the spear if I remember correctly). Dodging requires more time to recharge, you need to be careful with your aim, you have to be more careful with certain boon combos... But this is because Hades 2 is much more methodical of a game. You have to think your way through an encounter, evaluate the boons better and find out what actually works, while for the most part in the first game bigger numbers were always better and you could button mash through most enemies. That's what happens when a mostly melee game turns in a mostly ranged game, the kinds of people that will appreciate it will inevitably shift. I for one love them both, and I feel like 2 is a stark improvement. I'll have to wait for the full release to keep playing, though, because I've already exhausted almost all the content XD

I just having chuckle/sigh at how many of these basically boil down to "it's a roguelike", "it's incomplete" (which, duh? it's early access), or "it's not the first game".

The only bad thing I could say about hades 2 that it'll make me play for another 100 hours. Awakening my addiction once again, and it's not their fault.

I think lots of people playing this after spending dozens of hours in the first game forgot how weak you were at the start of the original and how long it takes to unlock everything.

I think some of the complaints with the controls and combat pace make a lot more sense if you've tried both Hades I & II with M&KB. In my own experience, my 143 hours spent on H1 were entirely with M&KB. It never felt clunky in any way and I loved every second of it. But when I tried the same on H2, it was extremely jarring. I ended up plugging in my controller not even an hour in and basically had to relearn a good chunk of Hades' combat flow. (not to mention that I started H2 barely an hour after getting all achievements on H1, so it wasn't a case of my skills deteriorating either) And in that environment, the combat definitely felt slow at the start, but I simply welcomed it as the change that it felt like until I got enough of a grip on it that I was able to actually speed through the game I also think people's problems with the sprint come from the fact that dashing is bound to spacebar by default and I can assure you that the average M&KB player's thumb is definitely more used to hitting that button once (twice if what they're playing has a double-jump mechanic) instead of holding it down like some scenarios in H2 require (*cough* Rootstalker) Overall I think it just boils down to the game deviating from the M&KB crowd's muscle memory a lot compared to H1 and while it's definitely something worth addressing on Supergiant's end, I'll still never understand complaints about it when the ability to remap your controls are right there, as lazy as we can be about actually messing with them.

To be real. Ive played 300 hours of hades and I didnt even notice the delay on the dash. In fact I thought it seemed like the dash had MORE s (especially on the backend) which i assumed they did because they removed the second dash. Dashings fun!

I kinda agree with the review on the keepsakes feeling kinda weak in this game.the fact that most of them are on a timer or single use for very meh reward really sucks. Edit: NAH I JUST SAW THE UPDATE NOT WHITE ANTLER WTF 😭

I personally cannot think of a single roguelike I've played that gives you a reroll on game start. I'm sure they exist but I've certainly never played one. Spelunky? What's a reroll? Binding of Isaac? *A lot* of progression is required _and_ it's character specific. Inscryption? In Kaycee's mod you probably have it by default but in the campaign you need to unlock the clover. Hades 1? I feel confident calling those certified endgame upgrades. Vampire Survivor? Some characters have innate reroll but it's late game ones, global reroll is a mid-game upgrade at best. If anything in Hades 2 you're empowered to rush the rerolls if you really want them. Weirdest complaint I've ever heard...

Dying at the review about Chronos unpausing while they were taking care of their baby

The reviews that trash the game but also have 80+ hours playtime are hilarious

I think (and also hope) that most of these reviews were written by kids. It’s either that or people just want the next Ubisoft brain dead game.

If I had one complaint, I was slightly frustrated with how weak I felt in the first 10 deaths or so. I left Hades 1 feeling like a god, and then in Hades 2 I went back to weakling.

I think we’ve all felt some of this in our first few hours. But overtime, you adapt and appreciate the game for what it is and how it’s different from the first. You don’t want a sequel doing the exact same thing as its predecessor. You want it to feel different and unique, and I think Hades 2 manages to achieve that very well. After 150 hours on it now, I think I personally enjoy it more than I did Hades 1.

The fact people call it woke but dont understand that ancient greeks had no problem going with either gender so its super fun for peeps calling it woke

I will say that i largely agree with the point about boons not being super interesting; the gameplay loop for each weapon doesn't change all that much between the different boons you take (purely from how the game plays, if i play daggers, then there's not a notable difference between whether im going for apollo's, aphrodite's, hera's attack or zeus' attack. it's the largely the same loop and really only the hammers change it) and the thing about disabling the pause button is a legitimate thing, i think you're being overy cynical about that especially when you start out, getting to chronos takes fucking forever and taking away the ability to pause the game from you is extremely frustrating, that cost me one of my early runs thanks to a sneezing fit

Maybe I'm just a troll, but it's hard to take most of these reviews seriously. "Game doesn't vibe with me" cool, look for another one, "game too hard" skill issue, git gud, "game too woke" bigot detected, opinion ignored. Only a few were actual criticism about specific mechanics or aspects of the game to improve, and even then they'd just cry about how different it is from the first game instead of anything constructive. The playtimes are also hilarious lmao

It’s kind of hilarious to me how many reviews sound just like the person writing it just doesn’t know what they’re talking about. Some people seem like they just don’t like rougelikes or the other genre elements Hades 2 uses but channeled all their complaints into specifically this game for some reason. Others just saw changes they didn’t immediately like and didn’t give them a second chance or seemingly never _wanted_ to these changes. Almost every person wanted either Hades 1 but again, or complained that it was too similar. Some people just clearly haven’t played enough of the game, and some are just straight up misogynistic! Obviously some of these reviews are valid. Most of the people saying that the game “might be good, but just not for them” are reasonable enough, but even the more serious complaints are kinda dumb. If you know you have issues with epileptic seizures and sit down in front of a flashy game anyways, you can’t really blame that on the devs. (Also you know the dude who paused during the Chronos fight to take care of his baby just wrote a salt-fueled hate-review. You can’t base a valid opinion entirely on “game doesn’t wait for me” when there is a decently high likelihood you have online games on the same device.)

I do think Chronos unpausing the game is a legit nuisance for people though, especially people like me who have parents often suddenly ask to do chores when they took so much time to get to Chronos

I did see someone say they thought the hades 2 STORY was slow, not sure if that's what they meant here but I always thought that was a funny critiscm because 1) the story is Not Finished and 2) both Hades games are extremely reactive to how you play and the story follows what YOU are experiencing, how quickly YOU are going through the game. If it's too slow for you, just open up a new save file and try to go through the game as fast as you can with the skills you've developed and then tell me the story is slow. Also about the weapons being 'weak'... if only there were a way to accumulate 'powers' throughout the run, maybe a way to upgrade those weapons and even include some choices that allows you to pick and choose which power you want to use for which weapon ability to synergize the best out of the weapon.... they should really think about including that. 😂 (And if you're really struggling with the weapons base damage just spam omega cast lmao)

i'm going to leave an angry review because I can't use Hecate's abs as a charcuterie board.

The woke "review" broke me. This is torture 😭

On the sentiment of the game feeling too slow. I wonder if the person writing that review played Hades 1 recently. Because yes, when going straight from your fully upgraded build in 1 with 2 dodges and fully leveled aspects and keepsakes to a new game without any upgrades but a similar combat system might feel slow (I remember that I thought some enemies in Oceanus and Tartarus had way too much health/armor), but literally the same thing would happen if you were to start a new Hades 1 save file.

I think you don't understand the reasoning of some people. I'm talking about those that got like 70 hours and leave a negative review. That's simply guys that liked the first game realy much and bought this one. Then they didn't like it but decided that it would become better later, then they crossed the 2 hour threshhold so they money is already gone so you might as well play it in hopes of liking it (with memories from the first game).

The Siren's song made you want to drown yourself? Soooo it's accurate cause theyre sirens???

I didn't buy the early access but have watched gameplay... I kind of relate to many of these reviews, I don't really want to hold buttons down and stand still as a primary mechanic. I was super hyped for EA but it just doesn't seem like it's for me. I'll re-evaluate after full release.

My feedback: Lose the Chronos no-pause gimmick. I live in a busy household, and I don't get a guaranteed run's worth of uninterrupted time. I've had to abandon runs more than once because someone needed my help IRL, and Chronos wasn't cool with that. It's an accessibility thing. And when I tried to bring it up with the community, I did get shot down by people who essentially said "skill issue". :(

Some people says “this game is like Hades 1.5” and the other side goes like “they changed everything man” People have no idea about what they want. Sad... I played Hades 1 for 450 hours and Hades 2 i passed 105 hours, still playing. At the begining Hades 2 was very hard to me. But when i spent 5-6 hours i learned game, i completed my progress and enjoyed. Then i went back to Hades 1 and SURPRISED. Because graphics & gameplay was too old for me. And people can complain about anything BUT MUSICS. Hades 1&2 has one of the BEST SOUNDTRACKS EVER in game history.

The review at 5:40 hurts me to read because of how incorrect it is

My only real complaint is that the Tavern area is a little akward getting through and into. I hope they do something further with the Spiritmixer, similar to the Chef from 1. It's not difficult to get out of the area with dashes but they put NPCs in there and I don't check them out as often because its 'full'. I just think they need to scale the tables down slightly or move them a little.

2 types of reviewers people complaining its too similar to hades and people complaining that its not similar enough.

It's funny he put the music from Wildfrost as background music. That game got destroyed by steam reviews

This is why I don't care about what anyone says about anything. Lol. I will find out for myself.

6:22 this one sounds like someone who was a slay the spire fan who heard about a new roguelike and just bought it without knowing anything about it and was upset it was so different to slay the spire. Very odd.

most of these reviews are from skill issued people that want to start the game and instantly be able to oneshot everything in a roguelike game so far I've been able to two-shot chronos phase 2 in a lot of occasions, and one of them I think I would have oneshot him if he didn't have a phase of invulnerability when hitting half health, you start the game weak then get insanely strong, it's about being pacient

the fucking superlatives man like truly have we reached a point where we can't talk about anything without resorting to WORST, BEST, HATE, LOVE, NEVER PLAY, PLAY FOREVER these folks must live exhausting lives

I think the complaints of it being "slow" or a "grind" has to do with the fact that you have to collect so many more unique resources in this game to unlock everything. It can make it feel more like a grind because rather than collecting as you go through runs as in the first Hades, you have to be more deliberate about collecting items in Hades II, choosing what collecting tool you bring along. It's a minor gripe, but felt noticeable to me, and I absolutely love both games.

I find the movement and gameplay in general a lot better. I had real hard time getting into the first one and if it wasn't for zag I probably wouldnt bother, getting through mobs level and upgrades etc felt a lot slower. This one feels soooo much better to olay

the outro is *chefs kiss*

Character complainers when they have to play as the character on the title screen and every trailer: 😡

The siren songs are legit ear worms. My complaint is there aren’t enough of them!!!

17:32 34 characters with some screen time 16 women 16 man 1 Chaos 1 dog >"90% of characters women" Okay._.

18:30, this review is legit. but I don't think it would be a whole reason to not recommend the game. But yeah pausing the game is important, life outside the game happens fast.

Hey, so Blazblue Entropy Effect just got a boss rush mode with (scroll down for small gameplay spoiler) tag teaming boss battles

I love how past a certain point Haelian goes fully unhinged :D

Nah, imo "slow" in this case means that to use powerful moves you have to stand still holding down one button while being almost invincible because of the first card you unlock.

The fact that the first guys played one hour💀

It’s the typical argument of any sequel. The first one is better or someone saying the book is better than movie. People really struggle to look from an outside perspective and not have a bias

Definitely think the unpausing the game thing is a valid criticism.

The heck! How dare they trash talk my Scylla! Jokes aside, her song's are fantastic. I was very surprised when i saw that it was Erin Yvette who sang.

They're reviewing it like it's a competitive pvp game

“I nearly 100% the first hades” so why’d you stop

People leaving bad reviews after 40+ hours is funny to me, but then again, I saw a lot of people putting in 200 - 300 hours of Starfield (and still playing it) while leaving negative reviews. Felt like people were trying to ride the hate bandwagon instead of giving honest thoughts.

these people wack af

thats the thing tho, they throw away the 30 dollars, then nine times out of ten immediately refund. they get to feel good about themselves for leaving trash reviews, and they keep their money