Disappointed Chandler didn't sing the awful bawdy song too. The world where a splice of them singing it together to different tunes/speeds is one I wanna live in. Truly the biggest let down of the 2020 quarantine.
My advice to anyone on Daisy Jones: get the audiobook and forget the physical book. The audio is wonderfully immersive, and my observation is that almost everyone who loved it listened to it, and people who hate it almost exclusively read the physical book.
I totally agree! I’ve never been a fan of audiobooks and always preferred physical books. But I decided to make an exception for this one and it was the best decision. I listened to the audiobook while simultaneously reading along with it and it ended up being one of the best and most immersive reading experiences I’ve ever had
What I took from wayward son was that it was meant to show that life goes on after the villain is defeated. There isn’t a party or congratulations. It’s just life, everything just continues and they forget about the hero. Although I agree there wasn’t much point to the plot, I think it was necessary as a set up for the third and final book.
It's funny because I just finished Steven Universe Future today and when I think about Simon in Wayward Son it just reminds me a lot of Steven. The whole here who doesn't know how to go through a normal life when the fighting is over
I feel the exact same way about Wayward Son. I adored Carry On and was so excited and then it just went no where? Not only was there now plot there was no character development, Simon and Baz end up exactly where they started.
Wayward Son was also one of my most disappointing reads of 2019. It was easily my most hyped book ever was SO let down. Now that time has passed, I have an appreciation for how this was an exploration of how to love someone who is so depressed and how to communicate when you are deeply depressed. Since Rainbow announced a third book now I just kinda think this book just suffers from middle book syndrome. My hope is that once the third book is out I’ll have a greater appreciation for Wayward Son once I can view it differently once Simon and Baz’s story arc when it’s completely done.
I honestly actually really enjoyed the book once I stepped outside of the bubble from the first book. Honestly I think what catches people off guard is the somewhat abrupt change in tone, especially in the tone of simon and baz's relationship. That definitely made me pretty sad while reading it, but I feel like it added complexity to it, and it made it more lifelike. The other thing I realized (and imo the mortal insturments, and the continuation series of percy jackson also struggles with this) is that there are almost way too many characters, and they all have their part to play in the plot, but it's a lot to keep track of and so what wasn't ideal was having something from the first book or earlier chapters pop up, and I'd have to look it up again to be able to remind myself what happened before being able to follow what is actually happening. Though that's only a minor inconvenience for me since this series isn't that long. And yeah there were many things that I wanted to be answered that weren't, it was still pretty thoughtful at setting it all up for the next book at least.
YES these are my thoughts exactly. (Carry On is like my favorite book so I'm very passionate lol!) I was so heartbroken by the end of Wayward Son--I didn't understand why Rowell would write a sequel just for our characters to have an underwhelming & unsatisfying end. But then the third book was announced, so it all made sense.
I enjoyed the book as it was happening, but after looking back and trying to defend.... yeah, there's a lot that doesnt happen in general I'm with you also with hoping the third book might make me appreciate Wayward Son a little more, but that would be a lot
All of the Lord of The Flies comparisons to Wilder Girls really annoy me because aside from "a (different) survival situation on an island," there really isn't much similarity. I think it's really set an expectation that it definitely is not.
Beth Halverson me too! It really frustrates me because while they are both some of my favorite novels, they don't actually have very much in common imo.
I read Wayward Son and actually liked it more than Carry On because I felt that Wayward Son explored mental health well and showed readers what happens to the hero after he has won the battle. I also felt like WS was quick-paced whereas Carry On dragged on.
wilder girls legitimately made me realize that I'm super into body horror & got me into venturing into the world of horror for the first time ever so I totally relate to you with your review of it! I totally loved it too
If you like body horror and don't mind manga, I highly recommend you check out Junji Ito (if you haven't already). Junji Ito is considered the king of horror manga for good reason.
@@victoriashaz He's certainly a must read for horror manga. Junji Ito is probably one of the most eccentric mangakas; his stories are out there and yet he makes them work. I mean, who else can make spirals, cats, and fish scary in the way he can?
Theres a similar-ish book that's called The Call be Peadar O'Guillin and the body horror in that is definitely a few steps above wilder girls but I definitely preferred it and reccomend checking it out ^-^
I’m so happy you like Sorcery of Thorns! It was one of my favourite books of last year & Silas is my favourite. It makes me so sad the amount of people that didn’t like it or were disappointed by it
One thing that I loved about Serpent and Dove, was the warring religions. The romance was find and I overall liked the oui oui aspect. Everything else on the list I did not enjoy.
i was STRESSED to see wilder girls on the thumbnail because it was one of my favorite books i read in the last year, but then i saw your ranking on goodreads and felt much better :) i really really enjoyed it and found it to be super unique! really enjoyed the whole video and it brightened up my crappy day!
I liked serpent and dove more as time passes after I finished reading it. The fantasy/world building was so lacking, but the romance was decent because it had my favorite tropes
I love the way you review bc you’re SO good at explaining the plot/mood/writing/characterization and putting your finger on why do like/dislike a book which is so helpful when I’m trying to decide if it’s something I’d want to read myself 💗❤️💓 you’ve definitely helped me grow my to-read list lmao
Wilder Girls' ending felt like a cliff-hanger to me, however, it also felt like the novel as a whole was half the story and that's why it feels this way. It feels like a confirmation that there will be a sequel, and I'm so dang worried about Hetty, and I really, really enjoyed this book, that I ain't even mad about it. I mean, it has flaws but I love it.
I disagree, I think this was a very intentionally open ending where you are left to wonder what happens. I completely understand why that’s not for everyone but it’s a writing choice i absolutely love because of the potential implications. In Wilder Girls the key is we root for Hetty and Reese, but the ending suggests we contemplate that their escape, if successful, may be the literal end of the world. I think there will never be a sequel because there’s a lot of power in understanding this and leaving us wondering.
Ninth House, Serpent and Dove, Wicked Saints and A Sorcery of Thorns were some if my favourites for 2019. Are they perfect? No! They have many issues, but they were also some of the most entertaining books I've picked up and I read all of them in one breath. To me the entertainment value of a book is the most important variable.
Hey I’m a relatively new subscriber here and I haven’t read a single book you’ve recommended yet but I’m so glad I found your channel. I used to read so much when I was younger and I was constantly in the middle of a book throughout the torments of middle school especially. Then I started high school and got both a phone and a worse case of depression, which kind of killed my bookly escapades. I’m graduated now and working on trying to read more and this channel is so inspiring to me and so pleasant to listen to. It’s reminding me of how I used to cope with things and certain moods I used to have🥰 I especially remember finding perfect music-book matches and sinking into the moods and world of those characters so completely that I forgot I existed for a while and would come out of the book like I was waking up from a beautiful dream. So if you read this thank you from the bottom of my heart for rekindling my love of books and letting me meet with my past self in the gentlest way~
I thought I was going crazy when I didn’t like Wicked Saints bc I had heard good things about it but I hated Nadya more than I hated Alina in Shadow and Bone and that’s saying quite a lot
I couldn't finish it! It just wasn't well written, there was so much info missing to link scenes together I genuinely don't understand how it got published 🤔
@@ericab1302The missing info was so bad, and the weird time skips killed me too. It was overall a really confusing book, especially when the magic is different and more complicated then what you would normally see in YA but then the author wouldn't explain it well. I was so interested but confused throughout the first book until I read the second book, which cleared some parts up. But I still think she should've just explained in the first book, since she had characters like the witch that were basically just there to give info anyway.
my biggest fear when hearing that rainbow rowell was adapting the fanfic in fangirl into a book series was that she didnt really know where she was gonna go with it. The excerpts in Fangirl are strategic, things that tell you things about Cath or what's happening in the story, but they were meant to be a satisfying story on their own. Hearing your thoughts on Wayward Son just confirm my fears tbh
The Girl in Red by Christina Henry has is pretty similar to Wilder Girls. It's about a girl trying to get to her grandma's after a disease swiped out a large percentage of the population. Clearly a government conspiracy is going on, but the main character is just trying to get by and survive on her own and isn't concerned much with the whole of humanity. Also the movie Annihilation has super similar vibes to wilder girls. Both of them have very visceral scenes with diseased bears in houses
There's nothing controversial about it. There are plenty of people who don't like it and seem to think they have the right to dictate what other women can and can't enjoy in fictional stories, but that's not controversy, that's just very sad thought/purity policing. Unfortunately some people just can't recognize that other people are capable of divorcing fiction from reality and wouldn't endorse a relationship like that in real life while being able to enjoy its drama in a fictional world.
I know my friends hate it because a) he’s a nazi by in-universe standards and also tortured her and b) the friends that are also* black think a lot of things about Ben Solo’s redemption arc are just wholesale lifted from Finn’s story, but reylo shippers don’t like Finn, and are side-eyeing the ship hard because of that. (*also = I’m black but don’t wanna say these are my own opinions bc I haven’t watched anything beyond the force awakens (largely bc besides a nice two week stretch right after the movie came out, the fandom surrounding the new movies turned me tf off))
I just started A Sorcery of Thorns and wasn't sure how I was feeling about it, so I was very excited to see that you liked it!! I'm now wanting to dive in and fully immerse myself in the story. Thank you so much!!
I’m mad every time I remember Wicked Saints exists because the synopsis sounds like everything I’ve ever wanted but I see like no comments that make it sound worth reading 😤
Wicked Saints was my most anticipated read of 2019. The author had some great ideas, but bad execution. It has duel perspectives, but the author plays favorites making the other main character seams like an after thought. Weirdly, I knew right away the author was a fan girl. There are unmistakable references to game of thrones and Howl's Moving Castle. Finally, she adds useless side characters who happen to be brown for added ~diversity~ I'd skip!
I really enjoyed it, at the end of the day. The magic is super interesting and I find the characters really interesting. I'm looking forward to see their development in Ruthless Gods.
@@SEH221 I really like the magic and world aspect too! I think the magic in Wicked Saints was really confusing for me, but I was lucky to read it just as Ruthless Gods came out and I think the second book cleared a lot more things up.
@@amegamooch I totally agree with you on the dual perspectives thing; the summary made it sound like Serefin would be traveling and working together with the rest of the group so it was super confusing when the book started with him wrecking the monastery and then everyone only really met at the end.
i just started reading wilder girls today bc i wanted to indulge in the irony of a book about girls in quarantine. i'm only an hour into the audiobook but i'm really enjoying the plot building so far. planning on reading serpent & dove next mainly for the witch aspect. anyways thx for ur reviews! glad to see a fellow texan booktuber on here
to be fully honest, im not gonna spoil you, but just so you have a different opinion, i wrote a 3 paragraph rant about this book and i rated it one star, in the beginning i thought i was gonna rate it 4 or 5, but here we are and here i am with a one-star review on this book lol have fun reading it tho!
For me, Wilder Girls was a three star read. It had a nice enough concept but I felt like not enough was happening in the book. Not bad but not gripping either
i actually really liked S&D and thought the romance was good and i admit its not the greatest book because of the little details but overall i enjoyed it. i have it 4/5 and im still ready for the next one :)
I appreciate that you took wether you like certain books despite their flaws into account. Honestly, my issue with book reviews will always be the fact that some people (and i mean in general like on goodreads) don’t take into account wether they enjoyed the book despite ridiculous plot devices or characters. Sometimes it isn’t about tropes or if things necessarily seem realistic but wether this world and what’s happening draws you in. I really hate seeing people trash on some books just for a specific plot point or transition into the story because that’s not the entire book. anyways that’s just my opinion so please don’t come for me eek
I’m so glad you like sorcery of thorns! Its absolutely amazing and I love the characters and really got pulled into the plot. I love Silas so much, too. It’s sad you didn’t enjoy wayward son, though. I really loved it. Maybe i just analyze things differently than you do, but I didn’t see much wrong with the parts you didn’t like of it. I loved Shepard and definitely thought he has a purpose, and I love Penelope. And there was definitely some develop emend with Simon and baz, even if it wasn’t a huge amount. They’re relationship happened so fast in carry on, and I feel like this book really slows it down enough to understand the way they’re relationship works now. Also there were definitely quite a few hints of the third book that I picked up that maybe were just missed. Either way, I liked this video!
Subscribed right away after listening to your Serpent and Dove review, honestly hilarious. I wish it was the book everyone wanted because it sounds so amazing but like you said the pieces did not go together and no building was happening. Can’t wait to watch more of your videos after this, the random cut ins are just perfectly done haha.
I have no interest in reading any of these books, but these types of videos you make are just so relaxing to listen to and they’re hilarious. The descriptions you come up with always catch me off guard in the best possible way. 👍😂
i LOVE an enchantment of ravens i know you mentioned it for five seconds in the very beginning but thats all i could think of throughout this video after you mentioned it. thats how much i love it
The thing with wicked fox, I think people will enjoy it if you love Kdrama and korean culture. I listened to it on audiobook and it felt like playing a Kdrama in the background and for once I didn’t need the subtitle!
hi chan! would love for you to do a video giving us tips how to read more efficiently or faster, or just in general how to power thru reading slumps or something in that direction. thank you!
I thought Sorcery of Thorns was boring at times, rushed through the ending because I found myself not caring. A lot of stuff felt brushed over, we didn't get to see her having conversations with her friend through the mirror, it was just told to us. Things like that just made me baffled.
You summed up my feelings on Serpent and Dove perfectly, I had issues trying to articulate what about it disappointed me so much but you said it all. Also, I'm kind of interested in reading Sorcery of Thorns now
I feel like I say this on every single one of hour videos lately but your content has been SOOO good! 🔥 With Serpent and Dove you were spot on, I was reading thinking “this isn’t great, this reaaaaally isn’t great” but I COULD NOT stop reading
truly serpent & dove, outside of my specific hatred of it, is the definition of “for what” she didnt develop a n y t h i n g in a meaningful way !!!!!!!!!
If you want some more light horror books with isolation themes I'd really recommend The Luminous Dead by Caitlin Starling! You follow this girl while she has to explore an extensive cave system by herself with her only connection to the outside being this not so trustworthy "surface team"
I'm most interested in reading Serpent and Dove and Sorcery of Thorns so good to know! Thank you for doing this video, it was entertaining and exactly what I needed. Now I need to get back to reading!
This was such a well curated list so good job to twitter responses. 😂 I DNF’d Wicked Saints three separate times before completely giving up. I really enjoyed Wicked Fox but I definitely understand all of your points about it and completely agree that it didn’t market correctly. I’ve been wishy washy about Wilder Girls but now I’m intrigued!
So interesting!! I really enjoyed both serpent and dove and sorcery of thorns. Definitely not the best fantasy/romance out there but still an enjoyable ride! Also! I loovveeeed ninth house, i can understand why people wouldn’t love it - it’s really violent and different from her previous books. Really interested to see if you like it!
This was so fun! Wicked Fox, Sorcery of Thorns, and Wilder Girls were on my to-read list, so I'm glad you liked two of them, and I think the ways Wicked Fox is different from its marketing actually makes it appeal to me more, so I came out of this a winner. haha
Please, do write your own book. I'd buy it in a heartbeat 😂 I've been reading books since I've literally learnt to read, and the more time passes, the more my standards seem to become ridiculously high. There's now a lot of tropes I can't stand and it's been years since I've last found a 5 star book 😭
I totally agree about your assessment of Sorcery of Thorns! It was one of my favorite books last year! This video is such a cool idea and I loved hearing your thoughts!
I'm reading Wayward Son and I feel like the book is like lets go on a road trip and random shit happens every ten pages, plus I would LOVE to see more of Simon and Baz's relationship and how Simon's mental health effects them
I recently read Wilder Girls and it instantly became one of my all time faves so I am SO glad that you loved itttttt! I was like uhhhh no when you said so many people didn’t like it at the beginning so you loving it was SO satisfying 😜
This just proves why trying to not pay attention to reviews is something good to do. Cause hearing from everyone will make me change my mind about books when they come out.
The superlative for Wicked Fox was spot on because I kept forgetting it was in this video. Like I forgot again in the space between the rankings and superlatives. Also, Wilder Girls is perfection and I can't relate to people who don't like the ending.
I know you aren't reading Ninth House for this video, but I think a lot of the reason why people were disappointed is because it's SO different from The Grisha Trilogy and Six of Crows. I think all of her fans were wanting Ninth House to fit in with Leigh Bardugo's other books and still be recognizable as her, but it's just completely different. I absolutely loved the book, but I also did not enjoy The Grisha Trilogy or Six of Crows and had absolutely no expectations going in because of that.
You nailed all my feelings around these books in half the time it would take me. Sorcery of Thorns was 100% my favorite book last year. I had serious issues with Wicked Fox (even though pretty much inhale Kpop and Kdrama). It was a mix of just not caring for the characters and so much going on that I thought, more than once, that the climax of the book had already passed. I had big issues with the lack of any endearing parental figures. I also read Wicked Saints and just couldn't finish it. I tried and tried, but Nadiya made me scream....
I really like how you explain and break down the reasons why you did or didn't enjoy the books you read. Overall I laugh out loud a couple of times with your commentaries, great video!
Sad to hear alot of people thought Ninth House was disappointing since its ome of my most anticipated reads of 2019 but I cant wait to see what you think. I loved the video and I'm glad you talked about Wicked Saints since it seemed really interesting to me but after what you've said about the book and the author I'm a little hesitant to read it now.
First comment I don’t know if u reply but every time I watch ur videos they always make me so happy. Lately I have been having some bad days and these videos always make me feel better. I hope everyday treats u well love ur videos.
To be completely honest i was dissapointed of Wayward Son at first. But now the more i think about it the more it makes sense. Its the perfect bridge from the first to the last book. It was a book to help them discover himself. Baz got to find out more about himself and now hes more comfortable with being a vamp. Simon discovered more about his sexuality and he needed to travel to america to be able to find himself. Penelope wanted to help simon get out of his shell again and it worked. She wanted to realse the books back to back but ended up getting sick halfway through wayward son so she didnt get to finishe Anyway The Wind Blows. I trust her fully and i do feel like wayward son was rushed but it does make sense
Yoooo I think this was the quarantine video I never knew I needed. & a whole 48mins at that. Loved it!! 🙌🏽👏🏽 and I loved the way u just talked thru the whole thing and told us what we needed to know about the books & how u felt about them without wasting too much time. Loved that. I also enjoyed those superlatives at the end; hilarious. Anyways i have been doing a LOT of reading this quarantine time & I’ve been reading lots of romance cos that’s like, my main genre. I wanted to try something different and I’ve been interested in thrillers.. I’ve found two I wanted to read & I think... I think I might add Wilder Girls to the list. I might.. hm I don’t know. You likened it to lord of the flies & I was a literature student in secondary school & we read it for that class and I didn’t enjoy it.. hell I didn’t even bother reading the book because.. yeah lol it wasn’t something i was interested in but we’ll see. We’ll see. I might enjoy this, I don’t know. I might look it up on goodreads and see from there. I’m also glad u talked about wicked fox & serpent and Dove cos I had seen them on booktube recommendations and I wanted to check both out cos wicked fox was inspired by kdrama and gumihos & as a kdrama fan and one who enjoyed the nine tailed fox drama, I thought I would like this & then u brought out this video and I’m like heheheeh-🤡 & with serpent & dove that I thought I’d like, u likened it to shatter me and I don’t like that book haha so now I’m just like.. eh never gonna happen. Bottom line! Thanks for this video, I really enjoyed it! & Sorry for the long ass comment hehe 😅👉🏽👈🏽
I was so sad about Wilder Girls, I wanted it to be so good and it was just underwhelming💀like I didn’t hate it, but I didn’t LOVE it like I thought I would
I feel so much more validated about Wicked Fox lol. It just wasn’t what the description advertised versus what the plot really was. The description was very woo!adventure! And then I was like woah there’s a lot of mommy issues in here dang.. and I just didn’t like the speed and the way (?) everything developed. You really helped me verbalize what I didn’t like but I felt bad because so many people loved this. Wicked Fox really felt like a lot of side quests took over the main level lol.
I loved Wicked Saints and the second book as well. I gave the first book 5 stars. I have seen so many bad reviews for it. I remember being hesitant to pick it up. The second one is good as well, but the pacing is different from the first book.i loved the first one better than the second book.
I'm intrigued by Sorcery of Thorns now! I adoooore the setting and general vibe of The Infernal Devices but cba with the drama and Cassandra Clare's compulsion to pair everyone off 😭 also her main characters are always the least interesting characters ☠
i feel like i'm the only one who liked wayward son more than carry on. i loved the setting, the worldbuilding, and shepard. i do think it did kind of fuck up simon and baz's development though.
absolutely agreed with you! i personally liked the book and think it's a good way to lead over to the third book but i wish that simon and baz would have had more development and scenes but i get that she might've been waiting to include that in the third book
I am halfway through Sorcery of Thorns and I agree with you on the demon, I enjoying reading about him so much. I wouldn’t be mad if we get a companion novel about him.
