Aussie observational-comedian Carl Baron summed it up when he said Aussie's don't tell you how they are - they tell you how they're NOT ... something like "how are you?" "yeah not bad" ..... "where are you travelling to?" "ahh not far" ..... "how long will it take?" "not too long"
The pilots whole language and demeanor is so Australian you’d swear he was at a Barbie with a beer in hand. Yeah, no, I’m alright just an ambulance for the other guy and can the fire services. 🤣🤣🤣
I was a passenger on a depressurization emergency decent about 11 years ago. They really do drop from cruise altitude to breathable atmosphere that fast. That was a fun ride. Oh, and the oxygen masks don't just drop down like they do in the movies. Those things POP out of those panels and they're LOUD, especially when you're half-asleep at the time.
The funny part is, the whole reason it's that loud is because if someone is suffering from oxygen deprivation, louder noises help the brain to focus on the stronger stimulus in a racket of what might be many others. It's not a bad method, if you think about it.
Yeah I hadn't really thought about it until a few months ago, I saw a recording from a depressurization in a commercial craft (can't remember what it was but probably 747), and you could see and hear everyone panicking because they thought the thing was crashing, you could see out the window and they DIVE, part of me never ever wants to be in that situation... and another part of me likes roller coasters 😂😂😂
I can tell you that the rapid depressurization and emergency descent procedure is quite a high workload process with memory items and checklists in the 737. The fact this lad did it solo is unbelievable. Yes he is flustered and at times makes erratic radio calls. Thats easy to point out sitting at home here on my laptop. Well done to him and all involved and might I add another great video by VASAviation
Aviate, Navigate, Communicate, the communicate is last in the list of priorities, this guy got it right , whatever else is happening fly the aeroplane. .
The pilot did well and was able to fly the plane, communicate and take care of all the rest. He missed bits and pieces sometimes but it is quite understandable in that situation. That said I wouldn't describe it as unbelievable what he did, it's just his job and what he's trained for. Taking care of an emergency is part of the job and should always be considered as a possibility during every flight.
A few minutes in, I was wondering if the Captain was also suffering from hypoxia as well. Part of it is obviously that he's trying to man the controls of a plane meant to be flown by two people but the way he delays in finishing his sentences makes me suspect that he's also not 100%.
@@forgottenfamily He is delaying in finishing his sentences because he is wearing an oxygen mask and taking breaths. You can hear the hissing sound as he breathes. The only pauses occur while he breathes out and take another breath. Once he is done taking a breath, he immediately begins speaking again.
Pilot had no ego, that's why it turned out good. He went from pan pan to mayday in 1 second... admitted he was in trouble and saved everyone. Let go of ego
I think my favorite thing about this video besides the professionalism is the genuine concern you can hear in the pilots voice for his copilot. Hats off to him.
Having made a single pilot approach and landing in a 737 simulator (a full-motion sim, not the game), I can tell you it is not easy and it is not fun. Hats off to the pilot and to the controllers..
It's hard enough just doing your own thing in FSX... It'd be crazy having to deal with radios, checklists, etc that normally are handled by the other pilot. All while wearing a mask that restricts your vision and movement, as you wonder what caused the problem, and whether the plane had any massive damage that could cause it to disintegrate on landing.
Done that in the Singapore 737-800 simulator. Wife thought I'd like it - I was pretty terrified! "Modern" commercial aircraft are a LOT different to the Cessna 172 I USED to fly. Yes, we know "everything flies basically the same" but the environment is very, very different. Apparently I did land OK and safely, so "maybe" if I was faced with such a situation in real life, I "might" get us all down in one piece! Who knows - the aircraft may still be reasonably serviceable too! :-D
Did it in the sim when we had extra time during my pre-LST. Honestly it wasn't that bad. The only difficulty I would say is the managing the approach, but my previous 20 hours on the 737 FFS before had was basically emergencies and worst case scenario so I was technically already "in-form" and was mentally prepared. Can't say the same for the guy who flies mostly eventless flights 5 days a week.
You can tell how ATC and the Pilot are more or less reading each other's minds, as a Brit, even I find the dialogue somewhat hard to follow, mainly due to accent, but there is very little doubt that both the Pilot and ATC fully understand each other and that ATC fully appreciate the Pilots situation. It's an honour to watch (listen) to such professionals at work.
For those critical of minor errors by the pilot - depressurization and oxygen issues cause some cognitive issues, even for a slight time after oxygen is administered. The pilot did a great job.
After the ghost Learjet crash it was concluded that a pilot can become sufficiently hypoxic as to severely impair cognition and fine motor control within 8 seconds, and even if they get their O2 mask on it can take several minutes for the blood to fully reoxygenate.
@@lucifer6966 you're right I should have specified at typical cruising altitude. But I was very taken aback at first to learn, number one how rapid the onset can be, and number two how long the cognitive effects can last even with supplemental O2.
Yes. I don't know, but it sounds like the flight crew oxygen supply is via on-demand valves. Which would be sensible because you'd want to conserve the supply.
@@rajinbin Unfortunately we often start off asking and end up demanding as older people so the younger generation just decided to skip the nicer parts. Our government went south in the Bush senior years deciding they do not serve us and the idiots we get to on the phone decided to just hang up whenever. In person it is often worse with rude people to deal with and really long lines. The service industry was next. So if you are hearing tower chatter that is not so nice it is because of equally unpleasant life scary events. The towers over here are desperately undermanned. Our teachers are overworked. As a science teacher I sometimes had as few as 20 students one hour but many times had 40 and was expected to safely conduct CHEMISTRY experiments. I did not teach just chemistry. It was biology hour one, physics hour two then chemistry. Next semester it would be a similar mix but switch one for physical science. It feels chaotic. Some of the students are on drugs and this is out in the country. I used to work in hospitals. We have plenty of nurses but support personnel are skimped on to make up so the man in charge of the hospital gets bonuses for saving on the hire expenses. I would have to pull double shifts. I ran the machines in the laboratory as a medical technologist and was proud of my work. I had to put up however with patients calling me names and sometimes the nurses. Or the doctors. Getting kicked or pinched. I tried to be patient realizing these people are hurting, on drugs prescribed by the doctor. It was hard.
@@rajinbin we all understand he's just being nice/polite phrasing the request in the way he does, but it's also totally not necessary or expected to maintain that politeness in an emergency situation. i think OP was just acknowledging that it was a bit funny that he asked for an ambulance like that.
I think the radar display was sped up, I noticed it too, but unless he is literally falling out of the sky, even in an emergency descent he wouldn't be descending that fast.
@@Misslynndance PAN is basically declaring you have a problem and may require assistance/attention and also gives you priority over everyone else in the area but is not a full blown emergency. Mayday is declaring an emergency.
me too. do you want to see hundreds of people die over a mechanical failure or inability to down an aircraft at a proclaimed airport due to lack of tracking equipment? Sure, this was not a planned or scheduled landing by any means but the first priority of any ATC or airport manager is the safety of the flying community and costs and distresses such as hospital calls are sorted later and not a prerequisite to a decision to allow landing in non-political situations.
@@xiqy1959 Right, but have you heard the "look for the helpers" quote? This is why I enjoy listening to things like this and watching stuff like Bondi Rescue or 24 Hours in A&E or whatever - the fact that there are people whose entire job is helping to save lives and keep other people safe is... Idk, it makes me feel something good about being a human. There are all kinds of ways to make money.
No wonder Australia has some of the best flight training programs and well trained pilots in the world flying for many airlines worldwide. Just listen to the calmness and professionalism of the pilot and atc. Job well done!
I like the way on final the ATC is babbling about taxiing and parking, and the pilot just says, "Um, how 'bout I land this thing and then we can talk about that stuff."
Its the Capital City airport and likely go through a large number of VIP or critical landings. This is not something they pray for however I think YSCB could be a very good choice for any kind of emergency PAN landing.
I must say, thank you for taking your time and making this communications videos understandable with the radar image, subtitles, and charts of the airport. It's really interesting what you bring here, and supplying us with all the additional things you put, makes the video easier to watch. Thank you, again! Keep up the great work!
I am in awe of the calmness of the pilot in reporting a mayday situation and his ensuing actions. You could hear him breathing through his oxygen mask as he spoke. Kudos to him and the ATC who helped him land safely. God bless them.
btw, for the people who get their pantyhose in a knot about VASAviation making the occassional typo or typing a word wrong ... A) get a life, and B) you're missing the bigger picture!!! radio comms are notoriously difficult to understand even without all the static, and VASAviation provides these helpfully-annotated videos to us for free, and without VASAviation most of us wouldnt be able to understand even HALF of what is being said, so why worry about 1 word or 2 typos!?!?
Not to mention this is second hand radio calls. It's hard enough to hear everything in a quiet cockpit through an earpiece let alone from a computer afterwards
I don't speak for the whole internet, but it's a pretty natural reaction when seeing a subtitle that doesn't fit its speech to want to correct it. I don't think it's rude, accusative of a lack of quality or that reasonable people get worked up over it. Just a natural: "hey that's not what he said"
0:57 “We’re in an emergency descent, we’ve had a Pack issue” (Pressurisation and Air Conditioning Kit). 1:28 “We’re just trying to get down towards 10000, we’re both feeling unwell”.
Whenever I hear a pilot say "Pan" I shake my head hoping for a quick fix, when I hear a pilot say "Mayday" my heart reaches straight out of my chest to them. I'm sure I'm not alone on that.
Julie Элизабет Mayday is a bastardization of M’aidez, the French for “I need help” and that’s exactly what the pilot got from ATC and Ground when this pilot decided/realized he couldn’t handle the Panpan on his own, probably strictly from a workload perspective. Pilots train relentlessly and have to requalify semi-annually, along with maintaining their medical at the same interval so they’re physically and mentally prepared and able to do exactly this. This incident is a shining example of how the system is supposed to work - a perfect outcome. And all for the one FO: hundreds of lives disrupted, plans ruined, money lost. More people should see this, and think on it.
That I'm sure is from where you grew up. If you were living somewhere overseas, you may have the opposite reaction. Pan, pan, pan would get your heart racing, and maybe mayday as that's more well known for both aviation and nautical. I'd be willing to bet that the mayday for aircraft came from nautical use.
During the day CBR is located under the one the busiest air corridors in the world......SYD/MEL.....Qantas alone has over 70 flights per day on the route then add Virgin Australia, Jetstar, Tigerair.
Damn, that was some of the most professional handling of an emergency I have ever heard! Damn good all around! Impressive to listen to, in real time! Very good coordination from everyone on the ground to get the Captian any and everything he need to get safely to the ground! Cheers all around!
Pilot : "my FO is feeling unwell" ATC : ""Any unusual smells, fumes?" Pilot : "Yeah nah.." Pilot : "Sir, there's one thing though, ............. both of us had the fish from the menu tonight" 😂
I LOVED flying Qantas. What a nice airline. I went from LAX to MEL and it was lovely. I had a whole row of 747-400 seats to myself. Got on my PJ's and went to sleep, Woke up for a bit over Hawaii and then went back to bed. It was awesome.
From the atsb website The ATSB is investigating an depressurisation and crew incapacitation involving a B737, VH-XMO, near Narrandera NSW, 15 August 2018. During cruise, the crew of the cargo flight received a wing body overheat warning resulting in a reduction of cabin pressure. The crew donned oxygen and descended to 20,000 ft. The First Officer was subsequently incapacitated and the Captain descended to 8,000 ft and diverted the aircraft to Canberra. As part of the investigation, the ATSB will collect and examine information from the aircraft’s flight data recorders and interview maintenance and flight crew. A final report will be released at the end of the investigation. Should a critical safety issue be identified during the course of the investigation, the ATSB will immediately notify those affected and seek safety action to address the issue.
An old post I realise, but your comment about their being a wing body overheat and this caused the depressurisation does this mean that they had a possible fire happening and the plane depressurises to reduce available oxygen for the fire? There was no mention during radio comms of there being a possible fire alarm/fire. Ray
@@raygale4198 "wing body overheat" is an alarm that means the bleed air system has malfunctioned; since bleed air powers cabin pressurization, this failure can lead to rapid cabin decompression
Caught this live on the night, only have a shitty pre-paid phone but went down to the airfield. The fence is right alongside the road and as long as you are 3 metres from the fence line and not using ladders to get a better view you can sit on just about all points of the runway from both ends, and down the eastern boundary. The best spot is the southern end where there is a huge jet blast deflector protecting the road not 10 metres from that end. Across from there is a farm gate and turning area for trucks so you sit there and they right over the top of you as they land or take off. I watched this one from side on about 100 metres down from the threshold and where the plane touched ground. Had live atc on the phone app. Pretty exciting for sleepy old Canberra.
The captain definitely had some early stages of hypoxia but that emergency descent brought him back. I bet he was at about 70% cognitive ability at one point.
He was incapacitated earlier in the flight, but at that point the FO was fine. They then both had issues but FO had it worse. Conscious but out of it. It looked like hypoxia, but it was actually hypervetalation from the stress
13:24 someone hot mikes "Bugger" ... Great video! always well presented and this is a great example of hypoxic behaviour plus professionalism on all crew and ATC.
I know alot of people who are new are afraid of controllers but I love them. I have always gotten great help from them , shit they even helped me on my long commercial to get lower for a better tail wind to get back home. I love to hear how helpful these controllers are.
Back in the early 90's, my F/O came onboard and said that he wasn't feeling well and thought maybe he should advise the Dispatcher of his issue, but he decided to go anyway. We were in the air for maybe about a half hour when he rushed to the lavatory. It turned out that he had the stomach flu and spent the entire four hour flight in the lavatory. No emergency, but I did alert the ATC's along the way that I was alone on the flight deck. When he came back to the cockpit just before landing, he was white as a sheet, so I had an ambulance standing by. He was an older gentleman and he really worried me.
I feel the anxiety here. We can hear it in the pilot's voice when he issues the PAN-PANs, then the MAYDAYs. Alone, his FO incapacitated, himself shaken up by the incident & possibly the shock of some level of oxygen deprivation (not easy to focus, then). He had a superb response, IMO. The YSCB TWR "we've probably over-reacted" may refer to the response on the ground (hopefully). In flight, this is a f.g real Emergency. Well done. Then again... Qantas :)
I really like the way the controllers all immediately confirmed that they knew about the Mayday condition on initial contact with the aircraft. That way the pilot immediately knew that it wasn't missed in the handoff. I assume that's standard procedure in Australia but IMHO it should be standard procedure elsewhere also.
“Yeah, well, just let me land the plane first...then give me the runway instructions”......in the stress of the moment, I could still hear the good old sardonic Aussie laughter in his delivery....
at 1:50 when the transmission is garbled I am sure I hear the FO laughing in the cockpit, probably from hypoxia. Those guys are really lucky, in combination with skill and consummate professionalism from all involved. Thanks for these vids, they are great!
Wow!! People dont realize how scary this really can be! And how quick the pilots and the ground control have to react to these emergency situations. Much respect to all of u in this field of work. !!
I reckon the Canberra controller is the same one that took that video of that Russian cargo plane barely making it off the runway at Canberra about 10 years ago. Anyone with me?
I am new to this channel and, first things first, I would like to congratulate you on the job performed. There are at least two things which strike me, though: * The first is that in basically all ATC transmissions that you manage to salvage, it seems that the crew on board is always the one reporting the incident; isn't there a system in the works which would automate the reporting of such incidents as depressurization, engine failure or indeed, any other condition requiring the aircraft to land ASAP? From what I see, this could allow ATC to preempt such conditions, although, uh, it would make harder for you to pick "interesting" situations (quotes very much intended). * The second is that the frequency of your videos is surprisingly high to my aviation uneducated layman's understanding. I'd be interested in hearing from you as to what ratio of such situations you manage to recover versus all such situations, and how much, in percent, of the total traffic these represent? I'd love to see a video on that if you can spare the time! Keep up the good work! Subscribed.
Just goes to show how rapidly hypoxia can set in. This makes me think of the South Dakota ghost Learjet crash in 1999 which was a depressurization incident that led to pilot incapacitation. Initially everyone thought that a misleading or poorly-worded emergency procedure checklist was to blame for instructing pilots to troubleshoot the problem before putting their oxygen masks on, but when the NTSB sifted through the debris they found signs that the pilots had in fact put their O2 masks on after all...the shutoff valve to the cockpit's supplemental oxygen bottle was found in the OPEN position, the one intact flight crew mask hose was found to have been connected to the O2 supply line at the time of impact and both pilots' crew mask microphones were still plugged into their respective jacks. So the conclusion was that despite having easy access to supplemental O2, the pilots had become hypoxic so rapidly - possibly within a matter of seconds - that even with their masks on they were too impaired to respond to the emergency and had succumbed to unconsciousness, unfortunately with fatal results. The official crash report states that "a period of as little as 8 seconds without supplemental oxygen following rapid depressurization to about 30,000 feet (9,100 m) may cause a drop in oxygen saturation that can significantly impair cognitive functioning and increase the amount of time required to complete complex tasks." All of which is to say...this Qantas copilot was a lucky guy!
@VASAviation Great vid as always. If I may suggest one thing: could you put the description (from the beginning of the video) in the video description? It's quite bothersome to always catch the right moment to pause (and having to pause) and rotating to landscape to read it. From most channels I'm used to starting the video and simultaneously reading the description as the video starts. I know it's just a matter of comfort, but also a easy detail to change. I'd appreciate it, but it'd your call of course. Either way thank you!
Ahhh That was intense. His workload must of been extreme. You can tell he's stressing but I bet he's saying to himself, ok, take a deep breath, relax talk. I'm not a pilot but been there on the radio. And getting vectored in was old school, a skill thats not lost.
I saw that once before a United 757 dropped from 320 to 100. He told me emergency decompression we're descending...our job was to move folks out of the way
I wouldn't ding him for it. He probably was a bit addled, himself at that point. This crew was fortunate that systems and training kicked-in and pulled their fat out of the fire...............................
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