Real Lawyer Reacts: Daybell Trial Day 24 and 25: Recorded Call + Texts Confirms Conspiracy? 

This video was recorded BEFORE the state rested their case.

UPDATE - Count 4 remains. Judge Boyce ruled the 1st degree M’der of JJ charge will remain.

The laughing, the 'texting' dead people, the metaphors...none of that creeps me out or makes me as sick as the fact that Lori was in jail and they still thought they were clever enough to somehoe step away from the 'problems' and carry on with their 'project'.

No, Lori wasn’t trying to save Tylee. She was saying Tylee was being too helpful and nice as proof she was possessed. That was one of the saddest parts for me. This poor girl couldn’t win. She was condemned for being helpful by her own mother.

And let’s be honest… he’s saying he’s texting a dead person 🙄🙄🙄

We’re listening to 2 psychopaths laughing while she’s in jail and 4 people are dead-

The soft, intimate giggling while talking in murder metaphors is the creepiest thing Ive ever heard

Chad tied himself directly to the activities in his “pet cemetery” with the raccoon and “burning limbs” text to Tammy. If I was a juror, that would have sealed the deal for me.

The whole day was was a slam dunk for the prosecution… then the error!!! Glad the jury didn’t see it!!

"I know you probably have to hold your vomit in" was EVERYTHING!!! 🤣🤣🤣

At the beginning of all the investigations and Lori’s trial, I was doubtful they would be able to make the stuff against Chad stick, I now have no doubt he is absolutely guilty of all of it!

The psycho texted Lori’s dead brother? They are whackadoodles! I doubt they have texting abilities in HELL!

I wasn’t sure what Melanie you were thinking of during the reading of the text messages. It’s Lori’s niece Melanie, not Mel Gibb. They are talking about the child of Melanie and how Lori talked to her and she is onboard. Meaning Melanie P was expecting her own children to die too. If I was Brandon, their dad, I would never want Melanie P. near their kids again. Love your show!

It’s so, so satisfying that THIS conversation took place 7/08/2020 the day before his arrest 😮 he prayed wrong😂😂😂

Extremely sad, but given the circumstances I think Chad definitely conspired with Lori and Alex. I think he in fact led the crew.

Happy birthday to your daughter!!! So glad JJ will still hopefully get justice! I have to say I really respect this judge! I enjoy hearing his reasons for decisions and he stays professional and fair. Crazy day!

There’s so much evidence here, the prosecution has more than proven their case. I can’t imagine anything Prior has will change jurors minds.

These two laughing and joking about Alex being “textable “! Laughing about what you might 😮find in your backyard? Obnoxious! Chad pulling strings and lies to make Lori believe they are so special in running the show for God? So sick! 🤢

I believe that Lori is a true believer; yet, she is evil and knows right from wrong. However, I do not believe Chad believes this mess. Chad is just manipulating.

They both sound deranged with all their laughter. I think they're laughing because they're speaking in code and think we're too stupid to figure it out..

@26:59 😂when you read “ grab me by the storm” your face and the okay to follow. Priceless 😂

Except Alex was already dead, and Chad convinced Lori that he was communicating with him (“texting”)

As a mom & grandma, I’m most disgusted hearing this mother giggling and flirting WHILE knowing two of her three children are dead! She knows she’s talking to the man who knows exactly how they died and either killed them or knows who did, and she doesn’t give a damn! It’s absolutely appalling!

I think partially he has to keep reassuring her at this point (phone calls) because he doesn't want her to flip and tell the police everything.

Judge Boyce has been fair and impartial throughout this entire gut wrenching trial. He is officially my favorite judge, so much respect for this man. Especially in light of the fact he presided over Lori’s trial and now has to sit through all of this again! Also-the prosecution has done a brilliant job laying all this out and bringing it together for the jury. Lindsey Blake is a super star.

They sound like Beavis and Butthead with all the nervous laughter

I think since Chad was still out of jail he was leading Lori on so she wouldn't flip on him. With that creepy laugh he not taking this very serious. Until she demands that Chad resure her(Lori) then he get serious with the blessing. What t I think as krama was that the very next day he was in the back of a police car.

Thank you Judge Boyce for ruling for the Prosecution to correct their error. See you on Monday!!!

Ha!!! Since when does a “husband client” pass on the message to his wife that “the contractor wanted me to tell you he misses you.” 😂😂😂

Yes, Chad is manipulative, but Lori sucks it up! Every time he flatters her, you hear a little giggle.

Those laughs just go right through me. Pure evil!

This convo in my opinion is Lori saying to Chad “I did everything you said God wanted why am I still in jail?” She believed him fully and he lied to control people and feel powerful and important.

Thank you Peter for covering the Daybell case. 😊

Their laughter sounded so uncomfortable.

So much more in this trial demonstrating the conspiracy than in the LV trial. I thought this was pretty vague and if Prior could come up with a contractor named Ray and plans for a house, this would have fallen flat - but Prior could only come up with some vague BS about the tent city. I am 100% convinced they were talking about their grand plan of getting rid of everyone who would be a hindrance.

It’s so obvious what they are saying. This is difficult to hear. If I were a juror I am way past reasonable doubt. The laughter makes it sound even more evil. The texts are the the nail in the coffin

Did Chad tell Alex he needed to die in order to be in charge of the “project”?? I wondered how they got him to do that .

Nate @EIN made an excellent point about JJ waking up during the night: JJ, no doubt, was dealing with horrific death of Charles just a few months before…obviously Lori was doing nothing to help him, she was calling him a demon. He was missing his dad and his mom had turned into monster. Poor JJ and Tylee.

He’s just literally pulling things out of his rear end on that jailhouse phone call. I think the jury has enough.

That’s a liars giggle if I ever heard one.

Chad's giggling over and over. Disgusting serial killer.

This call is the single most damning piece of evidence I've personally heard, of Chad's ultimate & complete guilt.

This man convinced this woman to kill her children while his were all deemed light. Lori obviously wasn't wrapped too tight. I don't believe for a second Chad believed his own shenanigans. He is very manipulative, evil and power hungry. Match made in hell, like they fed off each other.

It definitely connects the dots! Everything they say can be tied to other testimony. They are fools thinking they could talk like this

Hahaha! Peter, your ew! and gross! in between all of this is cracking me up. But seriously, wishing pain on your own children or allowing someone else to do so is disgusting.

While JJ and Tylee were being looked for, Chad, nor Lauri never told the public nor family that they saved the children from the evil entities they inhabited them. Which to me clearly says guilty and they didn’t believe their own crap!

I can see someone falling under Lori’s spell but…. Chad is not inspiring or charismatic and is a boring conversationalist.

Peter, I hope that your daughter has had a Happy Birthday! 🎉 And thank you for covering this trial from a legal perspective. I appreciate it immensely and I always learn something new.

If they WERE NOT talking in code, there would be no need to be so vague. He could easily say, "I know our house will get built, and you'll be out of jail to move in there with me" -- if they were talking about building a house (for example). This conversation is nonsensical. Reminds me sooooo much of the Charlie Adelson case and how clever they THOUGHT they were after the FBI "bump." Now he's convicted, and Donna Adelson is going to trial.

Alex/Ray was the contractor/hired assassin. You don't need an expert decoder to know this isn't about building their new Jerusalem. Chads voice actually sounds normal when it's sped up.

Cryptic yes, hiding something?! They would not have to talk in code if they are referring to a contractor to build a house or a pool. They would have proof of that. The jury will see right through it. I am convinced they got rid of everything in their way, and wanted to make money off of it too. The evidence is overwhelming.

*The contractor in this phone call is God. * They believe they are doing God's work. *Lori says ' I know what the contractor says', but I want to know what you think. (What Chad thinks). *When Chad refers to 'they haven't forgot about us', I think he means Alex and the others who are dead. * Lori has been taken for a ride by Chad and this phone call shows us this. I think this jail phone call AND the last day- today, that the prosecution put forth, the texts messages referring to percentages are the most damning for Chad.

Chad is definitely stringing her along good God it's sickening

The comments about being violent doesn't fit with building. It does fit with murders.

I totally think he believes he's being persecuted! They really make me sick

They are definitely incriminating themselves. Words such as Blue prints, soil, planning etc.

Alex was dead when Chad was “texting/talking” to him … weird

18:32 she’s CLEARLY talking about her being in prison when she never expected to be. And clearly it’s code because how is someone going to TEXT Lori in prison?

If anyone had written a novel with this whole storyline it would have been ridiculed for being so over the top and unrealistic. I can't believe it has actually happened.

When Lori was already in Jail do you believe he stayed by her side because he was afraid she could tell on him? In the phone call he is nervous laughing and kind of trying to calm her down.

Chad is soooo creepy.

This call definitely proves Lori looked to Chad for direction

These conversations are just confirmation of three people who thought they were above the Law and could do as desired and all would be fine…that is the part that amazes me!

The “Mel” in these messages refers to Melanie B..and her kids whose names start with “B”, not Melanie Gibb.

These conversations show to me exactly how evil Chad is & how delusional Lori is. I wonder how Lori would feel if it was ever possible to prove that Chad possibly raped Tylee before he killed her? They can’t prove it because of the way they burned her body but with what they know they did to her pelvic region it is at least a theory.

It just crushes me to think that Tylee heard her mother tell Gibb that she was dark, then apparently tried to do everything in her power to save herself and JJ: cleaning her room, “being nice,” vouching for JJs good behavior, all to no avail.

Their insidious laughing, giggling is unbearable

Idaho Criminal Code 36 says it " can be corrected at ANYTIME." 2017

It’s so clear that Chad was the architect and ring leader of this deadly crew. He may not have got his hands actually dirty but he did direct everything that happened because he wanted to be physically with Lori, he wanted the money she’d bring and he wanted to be the head honcho with his cult.

Not sure if you realized the call is when Lori is in jail and “Ray” is Alex who is dead at this time. Chad is telling Lori he’s “texting” a dead man because of course he can see through the “veil.”

Their giggling is so disturbing. 😒

Strong evidence that Chad Daybell was a co- conspirator of Lori and Alex. Once they prove that, he is equally responsible for anything they did.

Your comments really helped bring a lot of hope and comfort to people close to the Daybell case while waiting for the official decision from judge Boyce. Thank you for your time and input, it did/does a lot of good.

I was with someone who was a master of diversion in conversions with me. I would not get what I wanted out of conversasions because he would change the course of the subject masterly. I left him.

Yeah! That was scary there for a second. Thank you! You and Nate Eaton are keeping us getting through this trial.

Yes yes yes dots connected

I know the guy who lived in the camping trailer while building. He is my high school coach. So crazy to know people these killers gossiped about.

No, the thing about Tylee was that Lori was trying to imply that Tylee being sweet and well-behaved was suspicious, which shows how deluded Lori was, just like a 7 year old with autism and known behavioral issues ALLEGEDLY threw down a framed picture of Jesus signifying that he too had turned into a demonic spirit? She was no doubt motivated more by money and power and getting her way than romance or sex, that was Chad's motivation:lust. The greed is pretty strong with both, but from what I've heard of Chad's marriage with Tammy, she was very smart and no-nonsense, hardly the type to dote on her husband, which is something Chad's HUGE narcissistic ego needed, and to be an altered being, a Goddess with a fairytale wedding in Oahu...she went along with the unthinkable.

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Chad is such a "storm" chaser that he doesnt have a stitch of common sense. How he can possibly think that Lori wouldn't tire of him in a few months or years. Her track record demonstrates that without any doubt. They are equally manipulative.

Gross 😂😂😂😂 on the floor thank you for stating the obvious that we are all feeling right now

We already know that there's no evidence of them owning any property or homes together. When they start this phone call, she's referencing a reality TV show; he references something that his neighbor did when he was renovating a home. We already know that "Ray" was a nickname they had for Alex. They are talking about communicating with dead Alex, aka "Ray" their "project manager." There should be no question that they are speaking metaphorically and/or in code here. I think I know what she means by "beggars can't be choosers," and "I couldn't be there to pick the colors"... I think that was in reference to not being present for the murders and/or how he (Alex) disposed of the bodies. What is strange here is the fact that they are talking about there being problems with regard to the murders or the disposing of the bodies... I don't know why they would see any of that as having "complications" yet, since apparently the bodies weren't found until half a day after this conversation took place. 🤔 I wonder what the "five" things she mentioned was about. I can't help but believe that there was at least one other person they were going to get rid of, maybe more. The question is who? If anybody has any conjectures about them having plans to murder other people, I'd like to hear theories...

As a standalone this jailhouse call is not enough... as the last witness and the final evidence in the accused's own words, it's the ribbon that ties around ALL the evidence in a neat bow.

This code talk is so cringe! 😬 And their incessant giggling is gross 🤮

This call definitely shows conspiracy and definitely shows Chad is the one with the answers. 🤨

Chad's laugh is so cringy! If his kids were ever willing to watch his trial their views of him would have to change. If not. It proves they are 100% brain washed.

Omg love the I know your gunna have to hold your vomit in , 😂😂😂

This is all delusional thinking. It’s fascinating but in our society it’s simply called murder.

I cant imagine an attorney having a bigger OOOFF moment than this. That being said & done hes still heading right back from where he came from & will remain. #NOTHINGBURGER

That giggle is just bizarre and unnerving. Ick.

They didn’t expect JJs grandparents would be so vocal about finding him. They hoped nobody would care that the kids were missing!

Why didn’t Chad predict his kids a DARK? Such a self centered NOBODY.

Strange how it blossomed. That statement just shows how people think they can get away with murder. They truly believe they can get away with it.

I sure hope his kids end up seeing Chad for the monster he is. If they end up watching any of the trial videos I cannot imagine they could possibly come up with a different theory other than "our father murdered our mother and was involved in three more murders".

I’ve followed this from the beginning. I thought they proved his guilt during loco’s trial and they have presented a lot more evidence in his trial so I’m convinced he’s guilty.

Their giggling is nauseating 🤢

Yes, this recording and their communication the following day as LA searches Chad's property are enough to link them for me.

I love that the judge brought up you didn’t have the right to modify count number four which is where the error was and that gave them a humongous reprieve.

The way Chad speaks and writes to Lori 🤮makes me wonder how anyone could buy or read any of the books he has authored.

This “marvellous plan” they keep referring to doesn’t seem that marvellous now, does it