Real Pilot Story: Powerless Over Paris 

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I am French I thought the same lol 😂

Same here. This video was in my recommendes and if it wasn't for that silly commercial on TV with the squirrel with antlers and duck Bill in the DMV saying " welcome to paris" and they lady goes " this is Paris texas!". I would likely still be confused.

Waiting to hear Charles DeGaille airport

I’m English and I thought “what are the chances all these American guys are working overseas in Paris in ATC and flying light aircraft ” 😂

I bet he's a good father too.

And for sure now he is a good pilot

Seems like a very competent pilot. However, the fact that he was giving up so early, concerns me. He finally came to his senses, but he was going off the deep end for a while!

@@Plisken65 I appreciated his honesty. However, if you tend to freeze up under pressure, maybe the left seat of an airplane isn't the best place for you. Maybe it's a sign of age, or possibly he was never well suited in the first place, and never encountered a stressful situation. However, the fact is, according to him, he went into some very dark distracted places, when he should have been concentrating on flying the airplane. Here's an example of a pro freezing up! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-OR0WfTUDj-U.html The pro retired after the incident. Perhaps the good doctor should take notice! 😁

Great work guys

Texans who live out in the middle of nowhere, checks out.

@@SpacePrez Dallas Ft Worth is hardly the middle of nowhere.

Right....?!!!

If your name was P. Enis, you'd start hitting the gym in kindergarten...

@@6yjjk Hahaha that is hilarious! I had to double check, i didn't really believe anyone was named that but he was! And he is jacked! So funny, lol. Good one!

Definitely.

Normally I hate intermittent failures. I suggested in a previous note that he might have turned all avionics off and bring back up one item at a time. Might at least get communications

Yea for me an answer of "I don't know why the electrics all quit" Is unacceptable I'd never fly that plane again until a definitive fault is found I was waiting for the engine to quit, if all the electrics shut down the engine could be running on battery alone Who knows if the battery is dead from running all the electrics during the flight because the source of the problem is a failed alternator

Dave Shaw, the engine in that aircraft, unlike automobiles, does not require external electrical power to run. A battery is used to spin an electrical starter but the current for spark plug ignition is generated by two engine-driven magnetos. Each mag powers a separate set of plugs; in other words, there are two independent ignition systems both of which run without battery power.

As an engineer, but not as a human?......how 'bout as a narcissist?... You can't smoke in a bar, but you can still dazzle the ladies with the "as an electrical engineer" thing. I go with, "As an electronics engineer"....because it make me sound more contemporary... Good luck with your non-electronic, but electrical plug sockets n' such....Cheers

Is this true? If yeah, procedures should be changed to accommodate for supplementary coms methods.

@@nitramwin The controller was interviewed on the Aviation News Talk Podcast, episode 87, 28:00 into the episode he talks about the supervisor pulling him aside about it. Unbelievable.

WOW! That's cooperate thinking for ya!

The other supe probably didn't know what was going on. There are 50+ people in the control room and everybody's dealing with different things. (I work at a center too).

@@astral9872 i looked it up , i just wonder why the supervisory being so bitter about cellphone in the control room? any reason in particular?

Yeah! Every fucking electronic route would be followed and refreshed before I accepted not knowing the cause

Same here. If no definite solution, junk it.

Same here...

like marine boats, pull the ENTIRE wiring harness and avionics and start over. Dad had an old RV, for instance, that had a small fire; the wiring and operation just was never the same, even though dad knew Ohms' law and could trouble shoot anything anytime. finally, leaving LA and climbing the Grapevine a fire started, and he made the afternoon news. he got out about sixty seconds before the propane tank blew. and NO, I would be touching that plane again until........

@@haidenmorgan something "intermitant" is usually something really simple, like a wire that has grounded itself or has been damaged by abrasion, rodents, usually in a weird place you never think to look. unlike an auto a plane has disastrous consequences for not finding/doing occasional very THOROUGH inspections. take the time. it's your life.

Agreed, never forget that you are PIC. When you make mistakes, you die. When ATC makes mistakes, you die. Can't be afraid to take control.

Yep. It was the men on the ground not the man in the sky.

I mean, it was a simple request for the american and it would've been appalling airmanship to not do it if centre asks you for "a pilot in distress", but they were a small but instrumental cog in the machine that saved this doctor, yes.

@@QemeH they ask a plane to help signaling the runway lights? or

Rule 2: Aviate, Navigate, Communicate - in that order!

I'll take the grace of ATC over god any day!

​@@DMS20231 Number 5 chiming in. Our numbers are much larger than you can comprehend. We are not evil. We just rely on facts.

​@mdredmond71 I looked to try to send this as a private message(as this is WAY off topic), but couldn't find the link so will post it here. I hope you take the time to read it. Actually the pilot in this case attributed his safe landing to the "grace of God" instead of the diligent efforts of the controllers. Which is what prompted Stan's original post. I don't know Stan but he seems like a good, logical fella. I respect your right to speak your mind and will defend everyone's right to speak theirs, even when I disagree. I however, won't shut up and leave things alone, as that is my right. I harbor no ill will toward you. In fact I enjoy respectful, honest, lively discussion. We ALL can learn from each other. There are jerk atheists and jerk theists. I try not to be a jerk, though I'm not always successful. I am human. Good people will generally do good things. Evil people with generally do evil things. It takes religion to make good people do evil things. See 9/11, the Crusades, sexual abuse of children, coverups, protection of rapists withing churches, Salem witch trials, movement of priests to avoid prosecution, refusal to release financial statements etc. Also worth a look, The Clergy Project. I try very hard to form my views and beliefs on facts. That said, beliefs are NOT a choice. You cannot choose to believe something you don't think is true. Beliefs are based on the knowledge we attain. If I was brought up in a strict Christian family and chose not to challenge those teachings, I'm certain that I would believe in the supernatural and God/Jesus, talking serpents, an ark with millions of species aboard, a virgin birth, the resurrection, 6000 year old Earth, eternal existence, spirits, ghosts, souls etc, etc. I read a great deal of the New and Old testaments and held their stories to modern scrutiny. I found their foundation utterly ridiculous. A book, written decades and centuries after the described events from word-of-mouth, passed down stories told by uneducated, gullible peasants with not a single eyewitness account? Put any one of those crucial events in a modern trial and they would be found not guilty of occurring every time. In fact they wouldn't even be admissible as evidence as they are all hearsay. But when asked to base one's entire belief system on similar stories, it's an automatic and unequivocal "of course it's true". That is simply indoctrination based on faith. I can believe ANYTHING if I use faith as the justification. Unfortunately faith is confidence without evidence. If one person believes something based on faith, and another person believes the direct opposite based on faith, how do we tell which, if either, is true? We cannot. Therefore faith is not a reliable pathway to truth. When we rely on faith, we stop looking for other answers. There are many good teachings in scripture. They were important codes in their time. So, I truly understand why folks believe. I simply ask them to apply the same logic they use every day to their religious teachings and ask themselves if it really adds up. I never really gave it much thought until I actually READ THE BIBLE. Read it, all of it. New and Old Testament. Your beliefs may change too. Or maybe not. And that's OK too. But I guarantee you'll learn something new. I wish you peace, health and happiness. Have a super week.

mdredmond71 - Um- the dang PILOT in the video was the first to bring up god. A group of professionals, who are Public Employees- paid for by your tax dollars, did everything they could to bring that pilot in safely- The only part you could reasonably ascribe to an act of God was that all his power went out with no explanatory cause. So, God PUT him in peril of his life- but, as is usual, it was the efforts of his fellow men that saved his life. Airplanes do not fly by the grace of god- they fly because thinking people stopped ascribing everything to magic and started demanding Proof of why things happen. And those of us who understand this are just a little sick of folks Claiming every good thing that happens to THEM is by god’s intervention, but every BAD thing God had nothing to do with. Every time a believer hands God the credit for their good fortune- they are implying that those less fortunate must not be right enough with god. The self absorption of the faithful is staggering.

@@firefoxussr31 So Will I!, last time I tried calling the Heavenly Hotline,, It was BUSY!!!!! So I'll Be an Asshole Also, Look for Kinky Freemans song, Id put the Linkup, but id get slapped On my Pee Pee!, Kinkys song about the " I'm an Asshole from Elpaso!" Song,, Thanks for telling it Like it Is!,,Jack

So did I.

It’s called click bait

Yes, glad to see he got over it. Start with what you know. He knew that Dallas was VFR, for starters.

Yes, that was awful to hear, especially from someone who works in medicine. I want someone working on me with a can-do approach.

The good thing is he dismisses it quickly saying “that’s silly” to consider

@@k1mgy remember, it's not the thought thats the problem but how you respond and react. Given the level of self awareness and control he exhibited, I'd be comfortable having him as my doctor

That's because you're in the US. If the same thing would have happened in Argentina or any other "less developed" nation, this would have been a totally different story.

@@TheSaint135 I appreciate the reply. I'm quite aware of how lucky I am to live in the US. Any comment I make pertains to the origin of the video. Despite our imperfections, our freedoms are a rare exception to the rest of the world. Yes, I've traveled......I don't live in a bubble.

TheSaint135 I’m from Argentina and was just thinking about the same thing

@@JuanPablo-wc9ftI live in the US, but a close friend of mine, Diego popowsky, died in a small aircraft accident in Argentina a few years ago, he was a trainer for alas argentinas flight school. Every time I see one of these videos I think of him.

Gents, thank you for the reply. Not sure of your aviation background. I'm a VFR pilot in the U.S.. There is no requirement for me to talk to air traffic control. I can fly through multiple states without being "required" to speak to anyone. It is a luxury to know that ATC is a mic click away, when and if needed. Obviously depends on altitude, etc. But in general they are available.

DITTO!!!

OBServe Garage oh man, it would have been so much better if it was intentional! 😆😆😆 Good catch sir!!

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From a survivor of a horrible car crash, I agree. How lucky we are to have know a brief feeling of god's grace mixed in with wild relief and happiness. Most never have that experience.

Absolutely! I'm just a brand new PPL student, but I watch these all the time.

LOL right??

It’s a really big state.

Now we have this technology is Foreflight iPad app. Not only does it pinpoint my exact location on a map, but it also provides backup synthetic vision based on GPS data (including terrain warning based on stored terrain values) - and it doesn't rely on the planes battery supply.

Except it's a congested signal environment. The phone is hearing several dozen cell towers at the same time, all handling their respective traffic, leaving very little bandwidth open to get a call to go through, let alone sustain one. Signal strength isn't the issue, it's getting a stable connection because of all of the towers available that really can't hear too much more than the adjacent towers are essentially stepping all over each other from a high altitude perspective.

Correct. Only takes a few milliseconds to get a text through though

Literally 150 bytes or so

Lmao 😂

I think in its present condition you can rest easy on that.

@Hilz Kitching Either way, if you can't create the failure on the ground, or positively confirm the problem and it's source, not worth the risk with electronics, especially when most of the aircraft depends on it. Cardinal is a lovely aircraft, and I hope to own one in my lifetime, but electric gremlins are death

UFO.???

Yeah, that's pretty frightening. Especially since the problem kept repeating itself while in flight. And I for one wouldn't sleep very well knowing there was no backup system.

Not at night in IMC.

I'm not so sure about myself if I'm being honest I would hope I would fly again.

A testament to the power of this story

It was in the description "Hear the story first hand from the pilot and controllers involved" :) - so it was clear that the pilot made it - however the story was well told. It is refreshing to see aviation stories with happy endings making the headlines every now and then, especially when there is as much to learn from them as there is from tragedies that seem to get a lot of coverage. When in doubt, take a moment, breathe deep and fall back on your training. Hats off to everyone involved.

Yes, I got that. As the video simulated the actual event, I put myself in his place, and that is what made me “shaky” 8) I hope I never find myself in that situation. At 67 I think I have “my” “get-there-itis” under control. 8)

"Not on my watch" works well with ATC:s.

And a cell phone. and backup handheld radio more so!!!!

Yup yup yup

Extra cell phone. Extra iPad. Extra Radio. These tech items cost a bit but are worth it!

With a Garmin GDL 39 3D... best investment yet

And a head lamp

Because it IS an emergency. 7600 is specifically for loss of communication, which is an emergency. I don't understand your comment at all.

WAY above and beyond. Maybe because the controllers understand the stresses that people in both their positions have other's lives in their hands.

It's not even ideal flying hard IFR at night in an airliner. Let alone a single piston. I have 101.1 hours night PIC on a single piston at night. That's where I stopped and never to log in that column again.

Except the Hobby controllers in Texas

And the grace of God.

Good Lord, people. Can't you give the man his faith? He was VERY grateful to the controllers - and God.

@@eracer1111 Why would we credit an imaginary figure for the work and experience of people?

@@czerskip why are you people so salty and disgraceful when it comes to people and their faith.

@@PilotUnknownX Why are you people so fragile when it comes to delusions?

Overtime probably lol. In an emergency, rules are allowed to be broken for the purpose of a good outcome if it's the best option. Even if the chance is small.