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Real Road Test: 1972 Sunbeam Rapier (OMG NOT H120 LOL) 

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More Rootes action as I drove a Sunbeam Rapier Arrow, based on the Hillman Hunter. It has a 1725cc engine, twin carburettors and a truly wonderful exhaust note, just like the Alpine I drove recently! But what is this baby Plymouth Barracuda like to drive?
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@frothe42
@frothe42 2 года назад
What a gorgeous vehicle, I love everything about it! The sound of the engine, fantastic! Excellent review!
@martinmcdonald4207
@martinmcdonald4207 2 года назад
This brought me back to the mid seventees when i was a teenager and my old man bought a 4 year old Sunbeam Rapier just like this fast back model. It was an unusual colour in a metellic Mauve. But i do remember the overdrive system. Cool car, happy memories. R.I.P. Dad.
@jono.pom-downunder
@jono.pom-downunder 2 года назад
When I was a kid a guy down the road from me had one of theses in white, I always thought it was a good looking thing, I thought, one day,one day, now living down under they are rear as. Thanks for the boyhood memories.
@timwingham8952
@timwingham8952 2 года назад
I never understood why these didn't set the country alight. They had the looks in spades inside and out! Maybe it was was because people just didn't connect with the manufacturer identity? Whatever the reason this version of the Rapier is one of the best looking cars ever. (In my humble opinion.) Thank you so much for another excellent, informed, and informative review.
@Brian-nj7oj
@Brian-nj7oj 6 месяцев назад
Love your videos. None of the sarcasm like that a well known person comes out with!.Coming from Coventry I adore all this. When i left school in 73 I worked for a company called Awson Motor Carriage Company. We made the dashboards and door cappings for Triumph 2.5 pi, Dolomite, Toledo, TR7, Stag and Spitfire. My dad always bought Rootes/Chrysler stuff. In fact 7of us drove to Kiev in 1969. 4,000 miles in 16 days through countries that no longer exist!. Was thinking how sad it is that these firms are no longer and I was thinking about all the car makers there were in Coventry. Hillman Humber Sunbeam Singer Commer/Karrier (Luton)/ DaimlerJag , Standard/ Triumph. London Taxis ( carbidies) Leyland also produced excellent lorries , tractors , busses and, here, the Coventry Climax lift trucks. A great shame Leyland was run down as it was an extremely important business in the Midlands... Also plenty of motor cycle manufacturers here too, Triumph Francis Barnett etc.If you ever get chance please visit the car museum in Coventry!!
@davidjones332
@davidjones332 2 года назад
There's a forgotten item, the switch to turn off the dashboard lamps. That was a relic of the days when you had to have parking lamps, even in a 30 mph zone, so turning off three or four 3w bulbs might save your battery for the morning. Nowadays people just park anywhere without lights, facing the wrong way, on blind corners, on the pavement. The bobbies of yesteryear would have kittens!
@steved3702
@steved3702 2 года назад
My HA Viva had that! Wondered what the point of it was.
@maxflight777
@maxflight777 2 года назад
David… super comment ! 💯 %
@MrChris1316
@MrChris1316 11 месяцев назад
He did mention it
@mr_camperator
@mr_camperator 9 месяцев назад
I have to say thanks to this comment section for me to find all the curious things about my rapier, recently bought one and mostly of the switches where self explainatory, but some of em... Oh boi... Do I had to look it over... 😂
@lazycalm41
@lazycalm41 2 года назад
Gorgeous cars HubNut! In the late 70's one of my closest mates had a Cedar green H120 with white side stripes. We re built and tuned the Holbay engine with re tuned Webber 40DCOE's and a balanced and re ground crank, new valves and had the block bored out to around 1800cc. it put out around 130BHP after that and in a straight line would eat 3.0 V6 Capris for breakfast! Lovely memories of a wonderful looking car!
@Bob-nu3xe
@Bob-nu3xe 2 года назад
I had the GLS Holbay Ford boys didn't know what hit em!!! lol
@lazycalm41
@lazycalm41 2 года назад
@@Bob-nu3xe The GLS Hunter was like the Rapier a real barnstormer back in the day!
@volt8684
@volt8684 2 года назад
Eat 3.0 capris which were V 6 huge torque and 138 bhp …. Unlikely
@lazycalm41
@lazycalm41 2 года назад
@@volt8684 Car was also lightened a lot, competition clutch, lightened fly wheel. I was in the car myself when said Capris were devoured!
@andrewpreston4127
@andrewpreston4127 2 года назад
Re..; Plymouth Barracuda. In 1981 I owned a '74 Plymouth Satellite Sebring, same shape as the then current Barracuda. The muscle car era was just about over by 1974, and the Satellite with it's 318 cubic inches motor had just 150 bhp. I took the car to Dublin with me on a work contract. One late afternoon , driving 'home' along the coast road out of Dublin, I was listening to a radio report that the Radio Caroline ship had run aground on the Isle of Man. My attention strayed , and I realised that I was heading for the back of the car in front, which had braked. I ploughed into the back of it. I got out. The back of the Hillman Hunter was almost demolished, length reduced by about 18 inches. Yet when I looked at my car, the only visible damage appeared to be a strip of bonnet chrome which had pinged from its fasteners. I read afterwards that the Plymouth's massive bumper had a couple of shock absorbers behind it. Really like the instrument panel of the Rapier.
@robertcoldham6849
@robertcoldham6849 2 года назад
My grandmother bought a new H120 in 1968 which my parents then had as our car for many years until my mother in mid 80's wanted something newer to replace it as its getting too old, my dad loved it and would never sell it hence its been stored in the garage ever since. Its now in my garage waiting for me to restore it. Its now the same age as me at 53 years old, genuine 65k miles. One day...
@hutchcraftcp
@hutchcraftcp 2 года назад
Just saw a photo of one in a scrap yard here in the USA. I think it's a very attractive car
@finbarrsaunders
@finbarrsaunders 2 года назад
Beautiful example of a lovely car.
@redbackrecordings
@redbackrecordings 2 года назад
Was expecting Roxy music love is the drug to stay playing at the end!
@richardw64
@richardw64 2 года назад
A car I have never seen before, being an Aussie. But I sure wouldn't mind seeing one up close. And I don't understand why other historic motoring media have never highlighted this car before. It looks a lot more attractive than a lot of British suburban cars around that era. Well done Hubnut , this car has peaked my interest.
@wigs1098
@wigs1098 2 года назад
They were sold in Australia, albeit in small numbers. I live in SA and have one, and I kmow of at least one other in the state.
@alexanderheath6662
@alexanderheath6662 2 года назад
They were based on the Hillman Hunter ARROW range, and the back lights came from the Hunter estate car..
@166PolarBear
@166PolarBear 2 года назад
There was another model that shared the same shell called the Alpine but it was s more basic model with single carburettor and I think no rev counter
@pickering746
@pickering746 2 года назад
Love the exhaust note 👌 Nice to see more Rootes Group cars 😎
@nervo6321
@nervo6321 2 года назад
Lovely example...love the colour
@robinforrest7680
@robinforrest7680 2 года назад
So classy these Rootes group cars.such a pity they are not still with us. This one looks great.
@rumcove07
@rumcove07 2 года назад
Wonderful to see this posted as I have just taken delivery of what I think might be the finest example of a 1969 Sunbeam Alpine Coupe in the US. 3800 original miles, midnight blue with a black interior, always garaged and in showroom condition. It came out of a 100 car collection in Nashville TN and I will post a video soon. Thanks!
@Draxindustries1
@Draxindustries1 2 года назад
I also have one, never registered and 23 miles on the speedo..
@rumcove07
@rumcove07 2 года назад
@@Draxindustries1 Are you in the US Drax? I would love to see pictures as I definitely stand corrected!
@Draxindustries1
@Draxindustries1 2 года назад
@@rumcove07 Hi, the car is in the UK but I live in Russia. We deal in ex CCCP tanks, gas turbine helis (HIND) & jet warbirds (MIG 23's) Plus gas turbine gensets/ APU's and URAL 6x6 375D trucks. We buy in Bulk.from the UK specialist type stainless fixings like bolts/ nuts/ washers/ screws ect for our sister company who refurbish automatic weapons like Kalashnikov & MG42 for the Israli army. The next time I'm there I'll take some pictures of my car which is in a private collection of Rootes cars which belongs to the stainless fixings companies MD. All the best to you..
@09gearchange
@09gearchange 2 года назад
This brought back some memories. I used to come out of school and one of the dads picked up his son in one. I used to think "rich bastard" lol.
@Stevieweevietv
@Stevieweevietv 2 года назад
That's a beauty. Definately makes my top cars list. That exhaust note is just perfect. The dials look a bit like a plane cockpit! Do like the pillarless look too 👍
@LarryBees
@LarryBees 2 года назад
REview Much Better than Any Top Gear Etc Ian ... compulsive viewing Remember them aged 20😀
@MorristheMinor
@MorristheMinor 2 года назад
I'd read 'Swing, Hammer, Swing' which details just how needlessly complex the assembly line at Linwood was. According to the book there was a single production line where 8 different version of the Imp were built (plus export models) and at all at the same time! The idea was that the details of what spec the car was to have was telexed down the line with the car. Quite often the poor chap in charge of the telex would be found at the end of the line, tearing his hair out with an American spec Imp with right hand drive. After the Chrysler take over in 1970, the Imp range was cut back to two, the Hillman Imp and the Sunbeam Imp Sport.
@steved3702
@steved3702 2 года назад
Ford Australia used to do that, though by that time the management of it was pretty sophisticated. It wasn't like they did a morning of AU Fairmonts like Betty before wagons in the afternoon, it was a total mix of trim, colour, body (sedan, LWB sedan, coupe utility, wagon and, at various times, panel vans or Territory SUVs) and options. Taxi-spec and police-spec models often thrown in for good measure. My Territory (as featured by Ian when he was here) was ordered with the options I wanted and turned out to be the only one ever ordered with that precise combination.
@MorristheMinor
@MorristheMinor 2 года назад
@@steved3702 I think the big problem with Linwood was the telex would go out of sync with the assembly line and caused no end of problems. Might you the pneumatic system in early models didn't help the reputation of the Imp, much either.
@richardparkersmith4810
@richardparkersmith4810 2 года назад
A mate of mine worked in Fleet Sales at Roots Group and had the use of an H120 and took 3 of us out in it. Pretty fast for its day and he nearly managed to turn it over in a long downhill right-hander. Luckily the back end came out dutifully and with a bit of opposite lock he was able to save the day.
@Sandy-dd4le
@Sandy-dd4le 2 года назад
Lovely car. For anyone who has one of these, or anything similar, particularly in Scotland, try Chic Doig for parts
@silverqoon
@silverqoon 2 года назад
My mother used to own one of these in the late 70's! I have a single picture of it and it sadly met a bad end being scrapped but it was the last car my mother ever owned. Absolutely loved the car and she still talks about it very fondly even now. So happy to finally see a video on it from you Ian! And hers was a yellow/beige colour model. 😀
@gerardbooth40
@gerardbooth40 2 года назад
Oh wow. I so remember these as a kid. My dad had a Hunter estate. Thanks for the review of a marvellous motor Ian.
@peteiswriteingnow
@peteiswriteingnow Год назад
Really enjoyed watching this my 3rd car was a metallic dark grey automatic one of these, brought it in 78 had it 3 years, did have a bit of rust in later years but what didn't in the 70s. had to buy a few spares but every thing from the Hunter which there was more about then fitted. I just loved the shape different from every thing else then, not like now take the badge of most cars and you would not know what make it was.
@digitalvelvet
@digitalvelvet 2 года назад
Like when you see a picture of someone you`ve pretty much forgotten and you go "Oh yeah.." Thats what it felt like seeing this handsome thing again.
@lucythemoggy1970
@lucythemoggy1970 2 года назад
that start up sounded like my old hillman avenger!
@philjameson292
@philjameson292 Год назад
I used to see one every day on the way to school in the late 70s. For the time it looked really good and I have to say that it's aged really well. It's got more of a classic 60s vibe
@robertlambert8719
@robertlambert8719 2 года назад
What a lovely motor car! Just like you, my Dad owned a Hillman Hunter; an estate no less! He loved it and so did I. Dad was gutted when they stopped making them. He did road test a Chrysler Alpine (the front-wheel drive sort), hated it and bought a Cortina! I was lucky enough to drive one of these cars some years ago. It was a totally original, low mileage example and was a joy to drive. The lady owner had it up for sale too...! Sadly, I was lacking the funds at the time or it would have been mine. I often wonder what happened to it. Thank you for bringing back the memories; more Rootes Group please!
@grayfool
@grayfool 2 года назад
My father had a Hunter too. A 1500 DL saloon in off White. Wowser. I found it very dull and was very envious of a Rapier that lived just around the corner from us.
@Fatspurios
@Fatspurios 2 года назад
Lovely old thing. My father sold a few of them always black iirc. His car sales ended up on "That's life "with Esther Ranson but for all the wrong reasons. Lol. Happy memories thanks for bringing a few old memories back. Be well and stay safe.
@andrewoconnor5108
@andrewoconnor5108 2 года назад
Had the Hunter and the Humber Sceptre. Beautiful cars for there time. The Sceptre dashboard when lit up at night was like a commercial airliner cockpit!
@thefloorkiller
@thefloorkiller 2 года назад
Glad you did a review on a Rapier, I have one a 1968 one, I love it love driving it turns many heads as many people have never seen one before
@paulie-Gualtieri.
@paulie-Gualtieri. 2 года назад
Excellent review Ian I remember seeing a white one years ago in Derby.
@Captain_Scarlet_SIG
@Captain_Scarlet_SIG 2 года назад
Lovely car in beautiful condition and speaking from experience you wouldn’t want to chuck a Capri down the road in the wet it’s liable to leave it.
@johnmoncrieff3034
@johnmoncrieff3034 Год назад
In 1964/5 there was a Plymouth Barracuda in the experimental department at Humber Road, and it was very much examined by the Styling department (including Roy Axe). I was there at the time & did many of the blueprint drawings for the Arrow range!
@mousecat9398
@mousecat9398 2 года назад
In 1981 we found one of these dumped in a car park at the back of a church hall…It had already been hot wired and at 14 years old we would take it out at night and drive around Billericay joy riding….However we drove sensibly and took it back every evening…Filled it with fuel…..We liked it…lovely old motor.
@Downstairsish
@Downstairsish 2 года назад
I had two Rapiers in the eighties including a H120 so this takes me back... wish I had them now....
@MrFunkyDutch
@MrFunkyDutch 2 года назад
Gorgeous machine! That's the kind of cars I like!
@thetrickeys2635
@thetrickeys2635 2 года назад
Great review, I owned a Sunbeam Rapier in the mid 70’s, red with a black vinyl roof. As a 20 year old I was the envy of all my mates. A few things you forgot to mention, they leaked like a sieve, and like all cars of that era rusted out, the reason I had to get rid of mine. Happy days.
@chrisweddle2577
@chrisweddle2577 2 года назад
Claret?
@jodavies8952
@jodavies8952 2 года назад
I purchased 2 scrap Rapiers in late 80s.1 was Holbay, the gearbox casing had shattered propshaft end, the engine with twin 40s superbly balanced was sold and fitted in a late 1979 Hunter saloon. The following year by sheer luck, I came across a white Sceptre Estate, PTU814P, 1725 with twin strombergs and overdrive on 3and4, and sundym glass and tinted factory sunstrip. Sceptre was an absolute pleasure to drive, if it's still around I don't know, but not seen any since🙄.
@TheMeakster
@TheMeakster 2 года назад
4 kids in the back mum and dad up front. Happy memories.
@frankie6849
@frankie6849 2 года назад
Beautiful Car enjoyed watching thank you
@alexcassell4527
@alexcassell4527 2 года назад
Really well made video Ian, you've made significant changes in the delivery and camera work which make watching your reviews even more pleasant. well done, keep up the good work!
@MrNursi
@MrNursi 2 года назад
The posh woman across the green owned one when I was young, I lusted after one for most of my youth, still love them.
@petemitchell9111
@petemitchell9111 6 месяцев назад
It was a big leap from my Morris 1000 van to this in the seventies and I loved the "sophistication" - a lockable glove box!? Cruising at seventy down the steep bank from Bristol to the Somerset levels on the M5 my girlfriend went to get something from the glovebox but it was locked. No problem. Into neutral and passed her the keys. Mused to myself - "there's another sophistication to this car - a steering lock". Short and very sharp interchange took place between girlfriend and myself including "just give me the effing key back quick" after which, with a sigh of relief the key went back in and my hands, gripping the wheel like a vice, could relax. Phew!
@acl6573
@acl6573 2 года назад
In the mid 70s, I took the cycling proficiency test at primary school in Manchester. And the RoSPA examiner drove a turquoise blue Rapier… very stylish car. But by 1976, it was starting to look old fashioned. The car was the automatic version, because the examiner was middle aged and disabled- with a prosthetic hand - used to imagine it was a war wound.
@m0ogy
@m0ogy 2 года назад
A great car that also sounds like an old car should!
@bigsquatchsasfoot1964
@bigsquatchsasfoot1964 2 года назад
What a beautiful car I’d have one in a heartbeat you just don’t see them anymore really lovely 👍
@lizcarlile5170
@lizcarlile5170 2 года назад
My friend had the holbay rapier in the late 70s which also had the built in spoiler on the boot, awesome car.
@frglee
@frglee 2 года назад
I haven't seen one of these for decades; it was a favourite car of my youth with its unique styling. Always nice to see Rootes group and Chrysler UK cars, there was always something slightly different about them. As for Linwood cars, you should pay a visit to Glasgow's new Riverside Transport Museum sometime. Pride of place seems to be given to the very first Hillman Imp, which many a misty eyed Scot stands and stares at.
@MorristheMinor
@MorristheMinor 2 года назад
As a Glaswegian, I visited the Riverside and was quite annoyed that, due to lack of space, the LAST car built at Linwood, a Chrysler Avenger estate was no longer on permanent display. As someone wrote in the visitor book on the Riverside's opening day - 'The Kelvin Hall was better.'
@maxflight777
@maxflight777 2 года назад
Not just misty eyed Scots !! Even us (Brummie ) Sassenachs can accept that it was a far better car than the mini !
@triodehexode
@triodehexode 2 года назад
@@MorristheMinor Another over priced warehouse mascaraing as an Architectural "gem" the city fathers are so taken in by these international fashion statements. The Kelvin hall and its predecessor the old tram depot were much better.
@MorristheMinor
@MorristheMinor 2 года назад
@@triodehexode Yes, I agree with you there, and I studied Architecture at Strathclyde! Albert Drive is the old tram depot you're thinking of, I think it's still in use as the Tramway (quel surprise) theatre.
@triodehexode
@triodehexode 2 года назад
@@MorristheMinor That's the one, exhibits much more accessible as was the Kelvin hall My dad took me to see moon rock in there as well. What do you think the Stalinist student accommodation around High St. Sorry this is a great car channel. Just think the modern museums try too hard some times and fail. The new one is not too bad from the river but looks like a factory shed on the other side. Cars are not ment to be stuck to a wall. Councils like their designer name archatctets they can swan off to sunny climes looking up their work. White concrete and stainless steel don't work too well in a damp moss ridden clime.
@robc5955
@robc5955 2 года назад
Another car I’d forgotten, yet one used to reside down the street from me as a kid and I lusted after it.
@lewis72
@lewis72 2 года назад
My dad also had a Hunter, well, actually a pre-Hunter GT, with overdrive, when I was a child. I never saw another GT even back in the '70s.
@TheAsa1972
@TheAsa1972 2 года назад
That is a Lovely Car
@Rjhs001
@Rjhs001 2 года назад
My dad had a 1970 one of these in the early 70s. I loved it and was particularly impressed as a lad with the pillarless doors. I still remember the reg...TOP 740H
@Thecrazyvaclav
@Thecrazyvaclav 2 года назад
Gorgeous car, and rostyle wheels always look good I think
@ranjanaluwihare1511
@ranjanaluwihare1511 2 года назад
Hub nut is the Bill Odie of “ Goodie” classic cars!
@patrickswan4537
@patrickswan4537 2 года назад
Really good looking car of its day. Way back in the 70s my Mum had the Alpine version, turquoise blue with high back black vinyl seats. Glam rock on a budget, but it rotted to oblivion.
@ebutuoyYT
@ebutuoyYT 2 года назад
The jump in technology from 1970s to early 90s cars is quite shocking.
@rachelmckenary1467
@rachelmckenary1467 2 года назад
I asked the question why the windscreen wipers were positioned differently for left and right hand drive cars back when I was an apprentice in the 60`s. The reason was that at speed the nearside wiper would lift off the screen. That was why a lot of owners fitted after market wind deflectors on the wiper arms.
@wightangel
@wightangel 2 года назад
This was to me the alternative to us normal people who could not afford a Jensen Interceptor(for looks not performance). It is still a gorgeous car if every sense of the word. The Routes group of car makers was such an underrated brand. They made some beautiful and memorable cars(even though some was for the wrong reasons.). Great upload.
@paulhunter123
@paulhunter123 2 года назад
this looks like the better jenson interceptor to me lightweight and elegant
@mikemartin2957
@mikemartin2957 2 года назад
And the Interceptor has a Chrysler engine too ,albeit an American V8!
@rayjennings3637
@rayjennings3637 2 года назад
Can you remember what the mileage was, Ian? I bought a Hunter DL 1725 Estate brand new in 1972 for £840 to take back to W Germany (in the Army) a couple of months later but either driving on or coming off the ferry, the exhaust grounded and ripped apart. A garage managed to do a temporary repair for us to get back home in Buckeburg. A few days later, it was in the local Rootes agent for repairs and they fitted a full length stainless steel exhaust. That did sound racy!
@HubNut
@HubNut 2 года назад
I can't, but it had been thoroughly restored, making mileage a bit of a moot point.
@legambaz
@legambaz 2 года назад
Beautiful car. I'm speechless how amazingly well it's kept.
@vwestlife
@vwestlife 2 года назад
Speaking of the non-functioning clock, some old American cars had a spring-driven clock that you had to wind up every few days. But I think they were all replaced by electric clocks by the time cars switched from 6 volt to 12 volt electrical systems.
@CarlDraper
@CarlDraper 2 года назад
in the VW Type 3 they were clockwork
@stephenbrookes7268
@stephenbrookes7268 2 года назад
I have a fully functioning clock in a car that doesn't go. Offers ?
@DOBERSTAFFIE
@DOBERSTAFFIE 2 года назад
My Dad had two, both turquoise. Stunning car.
@stuartbourne5135
@stuartbourne5135 2 года назад
I remember that the Commanding Officer at my ATC squadron had one of these when I joined in 1978. I couldn't believe how many dials and gauges were in it compared to our Viva HC. As well as the standard dials he had wired an altimeter into it !
@stuwhite2337
@stuwhite2337 2 года назад
The viva gls had an even better dashboard!
@caw25sha
@caw25sha 2 года назад
No turn and slip indicator?
@raypurchase801
@raypurchase801 2 года назад
I got my ATC gliding wings, back in the day. I've fitted a machmeter to the dash on my 1958 Austin A35.
@rich_edwards79
@rich_edwards79 2 года назад
I saw one in metallic blue at a car show around 20 years ago and fell in love with that drop dead gorgeous styling. Sadly whilst at the time they were relatively plentiful and could be had for a couple of hundred quid, they were also all absolutely riddled with rot (like most 1970s British iron.) Still much rather have one than a Capri. That rear end just works so well and the overall proportions of the car are delightful.
@tonys1636
@tonys1636 2 года назад
2 litre and above Capri's could wag their tails easily on an uneven surface if not tuned into them. The wife used to frighten me at times in hers, she loved it when I was almost sh**ting my pants!
@cogidubnus1953
@cogidubnus1953 2 года назад
@@tonys1636 Marina Coupes used to be renowned for that as you went through fifty and only settled down when you got above sixty or so
@asensibleyoungman2978
@asensibleyoungman2978 2 года назад
I have met a pensioner online.
@cogidubnus1953
@cogidubnus1953 2 года назад
@@asensibleyoungman2978 congratulations!
@MarkieC1990
@MarkieC1990 2 года назад
That’s a great looking car, sounds brilliant too.
@brianbaylis6343
@brianbaylis6343 2 года назад
Always wanted the H20 version, but could not afford it on a bank clerks pittance in 1968. Fast forward to 2010 and two came up for sale, I bought a turquoise model that was a Rootes demo car, and had it shipped to New Zealand. After a very expensive restoration it was made road legal in May 2015 and to date has covered over 30,000 miles in my ownership. As others have said, it is a head turner and I love the way it handles Kiwi roads.. With a light foot it will exceed 30mpg and if you press the pedal many moderns will be left in the dust. It enjoys the company of my Sunbeam Imp Sport that I have owned from new.
@jackiron4785
@jackiron4785 2 года назад
This is the video I've been wishing to see. I've always had a soft spot for the Arrow Rapiers. As others have commented, the styling set it apart from its rivals, especially the Capri. If only Chrysler had the funds to develop these cars, perhaps using the abandoned v6 engine that was planned for the ill-fated Chrysler 180/2 litre. Ps Ian, I had a Hunter Topaz in early 90,s . Lovely car, wish I'd kept it.
@stevek3036
@stevek3036 2 года назад
i remember them back in 1982 when i was 18. Us youngsters thought they were shite along with the Holbay Sceptres. Back then they were rot boxes
@markclevedon81
@markclevedon81 2 года назад
These were beautiful and underrated cars. The H120 variants were quick and long legged grand tourers and sounded great. I had a 1975 Rapier in red with period Cosmic alloys when I was 19 - it was a real head turner even then in the late 80s. This is a stunning example. A great article and nice to see Rootes/Chrysler vehicles being featured.
@SiCrewe
@SiCrewe 2 года назад
Having owned a selection of older cars, I tend to forego the rose-tinted glasses when watching your reviews but this looks like a genuinely nice, tidy, comfortable car to be inside.
@MrChris1316
@MrChris1316 2 года назад
Thank yo so much totally made my day, I've been in love with rapier since I first saw one in mortons in Coventry as a v young boy, always wanted one but sadly the one rooted or chrysler I've never owned. After your test I want one even more, FYI there was a video of a rally rapier on here and hopefully still is. As usual u have come thru for me. As one Midlands lad to another thanks so much.
@MrChris1316
@MrChris1316 2 года назад
O typical the misspelled words are thanks to my hwawei rootes of course. Many thanks, still regret missing you in bognor.
@PRDowding
@PRDowding 2 года назад
My father had one ,It was a delight to drive.
@marcussewell7678
@marcussewell7678 2 года назад
Love this car only wish i had one .
@stepheng8779
@stepheng8779 2 года назад
Lovely, owners should be proud. Enjoyed that one a lot lots of Hunter mentions too which is always a good thing 👍
@simonhodgetts6530
@simonhodgetts6530 2 года назад
Very nice. There’s been a fair few videos featuring Rootes cars on YT recently - must admit, they’ve never been a car maker I’ve been a fan of - I always thought the Hunter and Avenger to be cars that you bought because you couldn’t run to an equivalent Ford…….however, I’ve been proven wrong - these were really well engineered cars - perhaps in many ways superior to the contemporary Ford, BMC and Vauxhall completion. This one is an absolute beauty - vaguely remember them from my childhood. Sounds very rorty!
@andrewgardner9615
@andrewgardner9615 2 года назад
My Grandma and Grandad used to regularly drive their early Hillman Hunter to see their daughter (my aunt) who has lived in Switzerland since mid 60s-They would also include a trip to South Of France!Never went with them as I was only 7 in 1975 when they sold the car.The thought of travelling such distances back then amazed me..
@cootason
@cootason 2 года назад
what a fantastic restoration. well presented mate and thanks for sharing your test run with us.
@stephinepaul7483
@stephinepaul7483 2 года назад
Ah,a "Super Highway Snipe" as American's used to call these. There's Three of these just sitting outside of town in the Desert along with a hoard of "Everything" classics. Two of these are Blue with White Interiors while the other was White with a Black Interior & Vinyl Roof(not anymore though...the scorching Arizona sun saw to that..). Lots of that stuff out here still.
@nicholascarter2640
@nicholascarter2640 2 года назад
I’d forgotten I had one of these in my early 20s. Looked good but was stodgy to drive. Very easy to work on.
@jimdennant8042
@jimdennant8042 2 года назад
Hi Ian, my dad had a Hilman Avenger when I was young be nice to see you test one.
@chrisrag1346
@chrisrag1346 2 года назад
Always thought they were a good looking car. And that exhaust does have a lovely tone 👍
@nick2203
@nick2203 2 года назад
I’ve always liked the styling of this generation of Rapier. Like you Ian, my father owned a Hunter. His was an estate car, bought new way back in 1972.
@simonblake5563
@simonblake5563 2 года назад
Great video. The sunbeam was more of grand tourer than a sports car. And it that role it performed very well. Good for fast comfortable economical trips. Lots of nice stylistic cues
@alansmith1770
@alansmith1770 2 года назад
I loved it Ian. I remember them being around so speak & stylish.
@nk53nxg
@nk53nxg 2 года назад
Really cool looking car. Rootes cars are very under appreciated and never attained the collector status of other vehicles from the same era. I always like the look of the Humber Super Snipe and Imperial, although I prefer the rounded rear roof line on them rather than the boxed look in the later cars.
@caw25sha
@caw25sha 2 года назад
In Open All Hours Arkwright bought a hearse. (I think he was hoping to "entertain" Nurse Gladys in the back. Needless to say she wasn't having any of it, so to speak). Only years later did I find out it was a 1950s Pullman/Imperial. They look quite sinister in hearse form.
@nk53nxg
@nk53nxg 2 года назад
@@caw25sha its the 60's Snipe and Imperial I like the look of, a little 57 Chevy at the front with the quad headlamps except more restrained and suttle than its American counterpart with the chrome trim. I think the Humber Hearse you were talking about was the big 50's machine with big swooping wings and the coffin nose like grille. Still cool.
@MapleMarmite
@MapleMarmite 2 года назад
I do very much like Rootes products and this was a great review of a very nice one! Was available here in Canada badged as Sunbeam Alpine but very hard to find one for some time, as is the Sunbeam Arrow version of the Hunter. These would have been nice as a lift back like the later Capris but obviously not enough structure to allow that with the pillarless design. Hoping you can lay your hands on a series Minx as well as an Imp, Avenger and Hunter!
@andrewf4797
@andrewf4797 2 года назад
I had a Hunter GLS with the Holbay engine many years ago, and really liked it, but I always wanted a Sunbeam Rapier H120 in that strange yellowy green colour. Thanks for this.
@mikemartin2957
@mikemartin2957 2 года назад
Hunter GLS ( a good but very underated car )sounded really nice with those wire mesh air filters, once the orange fiberglass air box was removed. The roar & bark thru the twin Webber's was far better than Marina TC/ MGB s on SU carbs or the Vauxhall Magnum on Strombergs. The GLS handled better than both those & certain MK1 & 2 Capris.
@johnclayden1670
@johnclayden1670 2 года назад
Yep, I had one new in 1973 as well. It was a great car and its performance could surprise many sports cars of the day. 0-60 in 9.6 seconds when new was quite something for the day. 4-speed gearbox with O/D on 3 and 4 (2 too?) made for impressive economy on a run.
@andrewf4797
@andrewf4797 2 года назад
@@johnclayden1670 talking of surprising performance, I remember one night when I was coming back home late at night I saw a car behind me, so I accelerated, they kept up so I kept going faster and faster, until after a couple of miles I suddenly saw them switch on a blue light. Pulled over by an unmarked police car. After a couple of the usual checks, the 2 coppers then started asking me about my car, what engine it had etc. and how they had had trouble keeping up with me (they were in a Mk4 Cortina). They seemed impressed by the Hunter, and then, to my great surprise, without booking me, just told me to drive home more slowly.
@petersargeant1555
@petersargeant1555 2 года назад
@@andrewf4797 I was waiting for you to tell them that you were speeding because your wife ran off with a copper and you thought he was bringing her back.
@chrisforster7799
@chrisforster7799 2 года назад
I had a 1972 and a 71 model. Great enjoyable cars.
@davidy80
@davidy80 2 года назад
Awesome choice for a road test Ian. My father had a dark blue Rapier when I was 7 or 8 years old, and I absolutely loved it. The back seat was fine for a child, with the added bonus of the unobstructed view when the front and back windows were down.
@marian6593
@marian6593 2 года назад
As a young teenager I dreamt of having one when I was "grown-up". Sadly, that never happened but I still love them.
@northstar1950
@northstar1950 2 года назад
If the Hunter I had was anything to go by the quality was dire by the time Chrysler got their hands on the company. In fact the only positive was that the Mc Pherson struts, which sounds like a Scottish dance, didn't try to enter the bonnet area, via rotten inner wings as they did with the average three year old Fords of the time.
@coops206
@coops206 2 года назад
My late uncle had a Rapier same year and colour as this one. Happy days. My dad also had the Hunter that he inherited off my late grandad, when he passed. I still have the Haynes manual for it, complete with thi invoice my dad paid when the engine let go and he had it rebuilt.
@s_class7027
@s_class7027 2 года назад
Beautiful example
@ferrumignis
@ferrumignis 2 года назад
My uncle had the single carb version of the Rapier (called the Alpine rather confusingly) and I loved that car. He stopped using it for some reason (clutch slipping I think) and stood for years in a barn at my grandparents place. As a 16 year old I wanted to put it back on the road for my 17th, but didn't like to ask, and it was only later (after it had been scrapped) I found my uncle would have been only too pleased for me to have it but didn't think I'd be interested in such an old car, doh.
@HubNut
@HubNut 2 года назад
Aw!
@stewartellinson8846
@stewartellinson8846 2 года назад
I've always liked these - very simple, very stylish. I always thought that they had a lift back but i realsie it's a boot and they probably couldn't cope with the extra holes needed for the tailgate. Interesting that the engine looks to be slightly slanted - i assume to keep the bonnet line down. Nifty!
@seed_drill7135
@seed_drill7135 2 года назад
That would also be in keeping with the Barracuda, most of which came with Chrysler's famous "slant six" engine.
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