Realism is KILLING EAFC 24 

The realism route works well for efootball/PES, but when Fifa tries it, it just ends up becoming an unplayable arcade game.

Thing is with ea is that they have realism and arcadiness in the opposite parts of the game. The meta should be more realistic based on passing and movement rewarding the player for their vision and ability to build up and it should be arcade in things like dribbling/defending. If I tackle properly or time my skill move right, while it may not be realistic, I should always win the ball/beat my man.

thing is, people always want realism but dont realise how many mistakes happen in the actual game of football. Misplaced passes, keeper errors, missing open goals, wrong ref calls are all part of the game. But when that does happen people always complain about dda or scripting. It shouldn't be realisitc if they don't want these things in the game.

There’s nothing wrong with realism. FIFA is not realistic at all i have never seen in real life defenders literally run away from the ball and refuse to mark attackers. The game has some underlying fun features but the core gameplay makes it unplayable, I just had a game where it was 1-1 and nothing happened in 20 minutes then guess what happens in the 93rd minute with +1 time given, I tackle the ai the ball ricochets off my player and exactly to the ai leading to a through ball and of course my defenders not reacting and a goal. Mind you this is all happening in the 93rd minute with only 1 minute added. Why is the game not over?

I was playing yesterday and oh my god, the amount of times you have to tackle to get the ball to your players feet is so infuriating.

Fifa would massively benefit if it was 2 seperate games. One focusing on online and esports and the other centered around career mode with the more realistic feel. What they have been doing is mixing those 2 up, so you end up with a game that doesn't reward good play against other people but is also totally unrealistic when you try to take a team and manage it. Constant flicks, stupid looking skill moves and all the fut nonsense do not belong in CM, while randomness and not rewarding good play does not belong in a mode where you have Sam Kerr and Pele linking up to score for a team with Lyon's badge and Marseille's kit named Cockfc69 for the sake of "realism". Just pick a route and stick with it

Ea increases randomness every year. Realistic football is very often boring and not every team plays like Man City or Barca.

I'm glad that i find your channel. You have a high level of criticism about FIFA. To me, you are continuing the work that Valerio (Italian Stallion) used to do in YT when he was more present. Cheers from Brazil!

THE FROSTBITE ENGINE IS OUTDATED FOR ALL THE 6000 PS5 "HYPER MOTION" ANIMATIONS

Tbf they’ve got mix gendered matches, so they’re hardly steering towards realism in that sense

The finishing last year was basically perfect, don’t know why they adjusted it. I don’t entirely agree with the idea that finishing should be the same amongst all players otherwise there’s no point in buying players with good shooting. If a shot is green timed with a player with high finishing in a great opportunity though, it should always be a goal.

People want realism, later they complained because of the randomness and unfairness advantage. They forget how unfair reality is lol

It’s all for the money at this point. Players who are new to the game will see nothing wrong with it and drool over the Hypermotion technology and all that. I’ve been playing since FIFA 12 and I don’t think I’ve raged over matches as much as I have in the past 3 years. There’s a difference between losing to a good opponent who’s simply better, and losing because my defenders turn into 2nd graders any time Mbappe has the ball or any time my opponent decides to full press with Madrid or PSG

I don't agree with all the stuff you pointed. We already have games (6-7) (6-5) imagine if the players didnt miss chances based on their stats, idk man. Imo the e-sports in fifa should be all *Manual Controls* ! That would reward the best player way more than the current state.

I’d take a more realistic game except that’s absolutely not the case for FC 24, it is arguably getting less realistic for two reasons: 1. Animations: EA seems to believe that adding more animations equates to increased realism. However, the reality is that these additional animations often lead to bizarre scenarios where three of your players inexplicably collide with each other, giving your opponent an easy goal. This situation occurs far too frequently, not to mention the issues with overpowered playstyles. 2. AI: that was one of fifa’s major assets, but Instead of improving on it, it is getting worse with each release, and it impacts the gameplay experience. EA is trying to place the burden of controlling all 11 players w with their movement on and off the ball on a single gamer. So “realistically” you’re expected to replicate what 11 players would normally do on a football pitch using one controller.

Tbh I would enjoy those random moments instead of hardcoded to score trivela shots

I couldn’t agree more tbh my friend usually destroyed me at fifa but when am playing well nothing makes me go more insane than losing to a travela shot from half way through the field because game likes him more atm.

I feel like when it comes to the punishment/reward side of the game, using precision finishing really gave me that reward, when I miss it's my fault and when I score is my credit. Wish more aspects of the game were like this. Great video!

Ah yes cuz you should always score a 1 on 1 with the keeper with a player that can’t shoot well at all 😂

Been watching clips from fut 17/18 and it’s amazing how much more fun those games were. Graphics and animations were less realistic but they were so fast paced, snappy, end to end with so much space on the pitch. It’s crazy how year on year we’ve gotten less fun games and you’re right, I really think it’s due to the emphasis on realism.

Idk why I love listening to this guy rant while playing fifa

What realism??????? FC 24 and FIFA 23 are very unreal. Players sliding through the field, the ball always going inside their feet(look at replays), players doing impossible passes that would probably break their feet. You can include the strange animations players do, the shitty replay system made by EA, players faces are ugly as well. Realism is what football games NEED

"Realistic" in pretty sure de bruyne doesn't get his pass intercepted when his teammates are wide open and 5 yards away

FIFA'S of old had finishing right. You were rewarded regardless of the rating of your player if you did everything right. That's why you could take a silver team into D1 and compete. This game is all RNG now. You aren't playing the game against an opponent anymore, you are playing against their AI robots.

I honestly thing that game just needs more settings, Look at it this way, if the game added settings for SINGLEPLAYER only to make it more realistic that would be awesome. Leave the competitive game to be competitive, just like controller settings you have the competitive settings you are forced to use. Do the same ingame options that the game has preset settings for Multiplayer gamemodes set as competitive and let the people who play singleplayer tweak there game to make it more realistic. Like some have said, PES does this really well with how there game is and making you be able to set all your controls to fully manual and such, give the people more freedom to make the game feel better for singleplayer and watch the player count grow.

as someone who likes a less scoring more realistic /simulation approach i think it is better to add more sliders and more focus on them so that every player type gets to adjust the game according to their desire

Loving your fifa uploads, I've played since FIFA 96 on the Mega Drive/Genesis. 24 is littered with issues; patches will inevitably follow. Rinse repeat for the next iteration in September 25.

Players only support this so called “Realism” when its in their favor. This company/game is so far from that realistically speaking. 3 months in and still no Huge Update, they give no hope.

Great video.. btw thanks for shouting out Luton Town FC for their incredible rise from non league to premier league 🙏🏽 COYH

I remember ItalianStallion used to call them Realism Andy’s 🤣 Honestly clueless people who’ve never been out of division 7 in their life. An esport cannot be realistic it has to be more of an arcade game to have any form of skill gap but the difficult bit is sticking to basic football principles, which need to be in the game

Any dipshit who say that must be forced to play a dark souls but their character random gets tired and can't roll, maybe have them randomly drop their sword and shield cuz they've been sweating yaknow, realism.

The realism that Fifa needs to add is no precise first-time passes/shots when your back is facing the targeted player/area. Also the rng of tackles and skill moves needs to be adapted somehow, because you should 100% get rewarded every time you properly read and tackle someone or when you time your skill move or just your movement with the LS perfectly. You should get rewarded, but in fifa, only rng decides if you are getting rewarded or not.

Ironically I just finished watching one of my gameplay recordings, I realised that even if you execute a play really well there no longer is that guarantee that it will turn out as intended bcz apparently they added too much "randomness" in the gameplay it ends up being counter-productive to your good buildup play, in the past it was better bcz u where only punished for making errors of judgement and general mistakes of yo own, Now its frustrating bcz you'll literally try to play football work real hard to open up yo opponent only to get fucked over by some illogical random event which 9/10 times ends up in a counter attack and end up conceding a shit goal from an opponent who has zero skill and proceed to griddy on you......... really its sucks big time

I've been watching your vids as they come out for the past 3-4 vids, and you've earned my subscription and my notifications are on for your channel. I started playing this game last year and pre-ordered FC24 because they hyped the game up a lot but it genuinely is one of the worst online games i've played. I packed TOTW Mbappe but have no desire to play the game as the gameplay is horrendous, even LS with Mbappe feels like a tractor. I'm looking forward to your future videos!

The ability to successfully complete any action in any given scenario in fifa, should relate directly to that players attributes and physical stats. This is the realism that the game needs. A center back should miss a 1 v 1 5/10 times even when you the player do everything right not because he’s a center back and that’s realistic, but because he doesn’t have the in game attributes and or physical stats to make the most of the situation. Otherwise what’s the point of the finishing and attacking positioning stats?

Ea fc doesn’t even feel like football let alone a video game

i think "realism" is okay in normal kickoff or even career mode, to make it less of an arcade and prevent scording 6 goals a game. but in ultimate team or competitve online gaming, randomness should just not be a thing.

they should add an option for modes like kick off and career mode where u can select if u want realism or not

realism actually is destroying fifa!

This game makes me Feel like I’m crazy .. I almost admitted myself into a psych ward. Then I saw this video and it all made sense..

there should be game styles in the game, people that want a more slow-paced realistic game, choose that setting and match with the same opponents, and people that want to bring in back the Winning Eleven game style can just choose that mode and run from side by side of the field and scoring goals from 40 yards out

Ion think I have ever been as scared in a 1v1 opportunities in a fifa game ever

I have no idea what is real about running around in circles looking for through balls to a winger to hug the line and spam cutbacks.. this player base is unreal 😂

Thought composure stat was the bascially the same as consistentisy stat am i wrong or right ?

they said "be there or be square" and bro wasn't there

Very interesting video and thanks for explaining people why ultra realism can be bad for those games. From someone mainly playing racing games, yes, in this domain, more realism (if the game aims to be a sim) is what we want, but for other sports, no. I'd say FIFA should take the example of NBA 2K about that rewarding stuff you said. In 2K despite ultra realism, you're rewarded if you do everything perfect. A bad shooter can score a three pointer if you manage to hit green. Also from my point of view, when I ask for realism, I mean everything that goes around the actual gameplay. Like the scoreboard, the crowd, the stadiums, etc. To me, realism in sports game should be about the immersion in the environment rather than the physics itself.

I need to have a serious 1on1 conversation with the guy who thought adding the "stumbling for 3h" animation i mean wtf is that why is that 1 of the 11000+ animations that got actually approved, it shouldn't be so difficult take the smoothest animations if anything (unfortunately almost all sports games are now animation based but i don't need 11k+ just the best ones) and make them dribbling stat based,

I agree mostly, but do think it should be a mix of both videogame and realism. EA struggles with the execution of this for sure. I dislike the Greentime mechanic, cause we already have stats on the cards to decide that outcome - Or so I thought. "But it is a skill you can use for extra accuracy and stuff" some would say. And I would answer "Yeah, like aiming correctly at the goal"... I like goalkeeper movement, as I am sure, I would complain more over goalkeepers I would have no control over what so ever. I could flip this one and call that a "Skill Issue". Anyways, in general we agree, and nice video. :)

Any reason why you used Everton in that example?

Congrats on 10k DMGinho

the real problem with this game, is the ai auto defence, that act faster than humanly possible, with all the interceptions and auto tackling, this is what forces people to use the meta glitches just to score lol, all because they making it a arcade game for unskilled players to get a few wins, so they buy packs.

I like to compare FIFA and it´s „realistic mechanics“ to games like CS GO. I mean it´s clearly unrealistic to run around with a heavy sniper and no scope the fu*k out of people, buuuut it´s a competitive video game, so if I got enough skill to to do this, yeah then I am able to do this… every fu*king time, there is no thing like „oh damn he hit like 2 no scopes in a row, now the third one have to fail“ no as long as I do everything right, it will be a no scope headshot kill, whatever, because its a video game. and so it should be in FIFA if I did everything correct, I should score or get a pass right etc.

i want fifa to be more about the chess type gameplay where you have to outwit your opponent and think 3 moves ahead

I like watching your videos, they call out ea and their shit game. It’s either you have a god squad or no luck at all, with packs or in game

Thing is that fc realism is just "hey this could happen in real life let's add that" even though the running is basically sliding on the floor while efootball is perfectly balanced

Excellent two-parter Outside of the gameplay, this game is basically also a gambling simulator, right? But the funny thing is, it's not even a good gambling sim. I can understand some players who open more packs having that slightly higher chance of getting a good player because obviously opening more packs gives you more chances. But here's the thing, explain how some accounts can have some incredible pack luck and some accounts have really bad pack luck. Like not even in the sense of luck. The guy with good luck opens 5 packs and gets back 200k worth of players, for example. But the guy with bad luck can open 50 packs (10 x 5 with 5 being the same 5 packs the guy with good luck had) and not get back at least 100k worth of players. When have you ever seen some people at a casino IRL have much better luck throughout all the time going to that specific casino but other people have gone there along the same amount of time and played the same amount of games and yet have much worse luck. Some day the code and rules to this game will be leaked and EA will be exposed for the predators they are.

Player movement (ice skating), breaking laws of physics, ball moving weightless - that's what not realistic in FC24. Player missing chance or referee giving wrong decision is not what we mean when we say we want realistic game.

Yo why you gotta do my man Zhengkai like that bro😂 I agree with you 100% though, realism is not what gaming is meant to be, if I wanted that i'd go outside and actually play😭

This summarises everything so well. Upto Fifa 23 I could dribble, make intelligent passes, score different kinds of goals. It rewarded me for my creativity, effort, and experience. But Fc24 is way too random. I do not even know what will go in the net, what the keeper can save, what will be blocked etc. Even when I score, I am not intrigued by it because it feels like luck honestly. That is not how a game should be. Imagine, mastering the moves in God of War, and then then the big boss kills you with something random every time. How annoying would that be? Or in GTA, an enemy attacks you with a random weapon you have never seen before. It is that annoying. If I make the effort to get that one on one, reward me, and punish the opponent for that.

I actually like the realistic aspect of the fifa ,the last fifa I played was 2013 and still remained my favorite to this day ,the only thing I see wrong with the fc 24 is just gameplay like why do I have to tackle the opponent 50 times before the ball goes loose and goes right back to opponent,like just the defending and attacking ai is so stupid

Idk how I stumbled upon you sir but I am grateful. I agree with every word you spoke.

Love its realism -a few occasions that ball has been over the touch line but play continued - I love that

My problem is that when you play on a higher difficulty in league 2, the AI players automatically become perfect and rarely make mistakes or miss shots. Passes are always perfect, it’s just so stupid.

The only thin that should be more realistic is how the fucking offside rule works because it's not the same as in real life

You’re killing the FC content game rn king (in a good way)

What EA has done and probably the term we're looking to use is "selective realism". The game is trying to be "realistic" with all the animations while at the same time there are unrealistic parts/features of the game such as GK movement. I like my football video game to be arcadey hence "unrealistic" but if we're about to add more "unrealism" into them, I think we need to agree that "unrealism" like GK movement is stupid and is not acceptable at all. On the other spectrum, some realistic features are stupid and are not acceptable also. These are constant pressure, pressuring up high and gegenpressing (press after possession loss). I know it's trying to keep it up to date with real modern football and it's realistic but it can be abused and make the whole experience worse. Realistic or unrealistic, all the game mechanics/features that are stupid and make the whole experience worse must not be in the game. Things like missing an open goal, dropping back AI defending, double four low block, GK movement, constant pressure, clunky movement, unable to make a simple 5-yard pass, two-tackle tax, iso-play, ultra defensive formations being OP etc etc, we have to agree that all these must be kicked out from the game. We all have to agree that "selective realism" is bad.

Ea should simply make separate game for ultimate team

Tbf, if I’m using a bronze goalkeeper with -30 finishing, I’d happily accept that I’m probably only going to score 1/10 times 😂

Pause at 5:29 and see the L stick controllers direction as he shoots. Clearly that shouldn't hit, and it didn't.

Chasing realism is what send PES down the gutter. Green time shot is bullshit too. In Fifa 18, No one got pass me with those silly dribbles that everyone is now doing on the wings. I use to be the Rudiger of FIFA. Like the 1st leg of the UCL when he was on Haaland like white on rice. Nowadays my players just move out the way.

I actually like realistic games when they're souls like, lore games where the intent is to be as hard as humanly possible and challenge the players in a beautiful open world. But not in Fifa, yes I do love the realism too it but not too realistic. I am glad someone else still calls it Fifa, I tried calling it FC24 it felt wrong so I just call it Fifa 24 and one of my mates didn't like it, he can eat...

EA judge their games on sales and online micro transactions, which EA fc24 has already outsold fifa 23 ,so for EA, fc24 is a total success

i think its better to let players decide on two modes, realism on career modes and e sporty types on online fut? idk for me i m a football enthusiast and wants to feel the realism but my tendon injury limits me from playing football ever again and i still want to enjoy a real game of football, so only game is an option. i play career modes often and i dun enjoy when the defenders are poor, attacking ai is slow and the goal keepers beaten easily near post, its frustrating. I think it should work both ways with options given to players

Please do a video on how poor the player lock is on crosses. I constantky hit the far player i want to get to, but am locked on a guy in the middle

I was thinking the same yeah is real Mbappe Run almost 100mph but in Fc24 having Mbappe 98 plus 7 acceleration is bad for offline and Carrer mode

There's no way to be realistic with players sliding on the field

Ill just say... If you want realisim... Play Football Manager 90 minute matches with no skips. THATS REALISM

I absolutely love FC24 it plays beautifully except online when its like running through the mud, that thing is just soul destroying.

My take on finishing: Inside the box, finishing is garbage. It shouldn't be 100% goal, but it should be buffed a little. First time shots, tap ins, are HORRIBLE, they need to be buffed greatly. Out side of the box, shots are way too OP. But they are meant to be OP, to counter passive, park the bus defending. As for the realism, it should not be realism simulator. If it were, no one would be playing, after having an opponent who would be passing around the back for half an hour.

I still prefer realism, but I still have not gotten that from ea. Players move unrealistic after they score a goal. You think they would fix that by now 😢😢😢

A player's attributes should be there to balance your human errors. When you make a bad pass or shot (off target, too soft or hard), a player's attributes should determine a small range of "auto-correction" - ie, if you point your joystick a metre wide of the post, good finishers will correct your shot closer to the goal, within reason, and bad finishers less so. In this way, a player will always behave as you expect based on your actual input - they'll never have a bad touch, for example - and better players will feel slightly easier to play with. But how it works now is that attributes are lottery on mistakes. You can do everything right, but if that dice rolls wrong, the outcome is ruined.

Yeah I’m pretty sure They’re using the hypermotion stuff for promoting it as realistic and that’s it. All the randomness in the game is just broken mechanics not because they’re pursuing realism which they’re not. They just use it as an excuse.

If they just put the gameplay from fifa 17 with the added goalkeeper animations it would actually be a fun game.

I don’t even play fifa anymore….literally spend my time taking walks and sht now wtf? Why can’t we just have one nice thing?

I’ve been harping about this for years on the EA forums for both FIFA and NHL but people just don’t get it and especially the ones making the games. YOU CAN’T HAVE A REALISTIC GAME THAT LAST ONLY 10-15 MINUTES!! The point being is that certain aspects of the game need to be based in reality. Most importantly there needs to be a skill gap, reward and punishment for doing the right and wrong things with the controller. In order to produce realistic score lines and a realistic amount of scoring OPPORTUNITIES, a sport video game has to overlook some aspects of realism. EA has this concept correct in FIFA 12 and prior games. FIFA 13 was when the bobbly, randomized bounces really started to infect the game. This was done intentionally in an attempt to mimick “realistic” gameplay. While it may have to a TINY extent, the gameplay has been plagued by much worse things like: - well timed tackles going back to the opposing player - several rebounds in a row falling right at the feet of attacking players - nerfed skill and dribble moves - random error on simple passes All of these things used to separate the better players from the worse players. This has to change. If FIFA 12 was opened up in online play again I would be playing it all year long, daily. And I haven’t bought a FIFA title since 2017.

Realism from Canada- Me 5x tackling player 5x ball go back to him

Was watching the Real v Napoli game yesterday and for the love of all humanity dont ever make a game that much realistic. Bad referee calls, open net misses, dead defence in the second goal for Napoli... if this keeps happening in FIFA/EA FC i will literally try and find some EA developer just to scream at his face for at least an hour straight!

That why I prefer play on PC. So a lot of gameplay mod to try to accomodate what user want. FIFA default gameplay is always suck for me, too fast and floaty, need gameplay mod+slider to fix that.

When the last man n your team plays your opponent 30 yards inside instead of hold the line .

Old PES was random and every game felt different, that's why I'm never playing fifa or whatever is called again

So keepers should never save on on ones? I dont understand this "should be rewarded argument". This is what causes "meta" and skill move spanning that works everytime. If there was no randomness the game would be the most boring to play ever. EA:s problem is the unfair use of DDA and scripting.

Ive lost sooo many games when i desserved to win by 3 or more goal diference its just disgusting

Realism would be boring, that's the reality of it. All these people scoring easy headers with Haaland or Virgil would stop playing if corners were realistic. On average a corner is gonna end in a goal at a rate of 0.022 or 1 goal every 10 games. But this game with the right player, you can score as many corner goals as you get corners. If this game was more realistic ratings would matter more. Hidden gems would stop being a thing. An 85 who is cracked isn't gonna do a thing against 95s. RIP your 88 Ederson bc he's facing 95 R9. Thats what realism does. A game more arcade like allows for lesser rated cards to hang in with higher rated cards if the player is good enough. Thats how you get anti-meta builds or rogue builds.

That's the reason why I really believe that EA should make 2 games. One focused in realism (to a certain degree) and driven towards career modes (Manager and Player), and the other would be UT. That way they could have a competitive eSports game really good AND a great "offline" experience. But it's EA, so, NO. :(

You are my favorite and i’m going through a tough time so thank you.

Fifa 24 players looks like more a 10th division players than professional players of the highest tiers of football , 90% of time , you cannot complete a 1m pass but you can score a 30m banger with the outside

I want the game to be more realistic in terms of graphics and how players moves (animation) and cutscenes.... The gameplay is really ok if you know how to play and how you make your tactics, and yes, the tactics are also have to be improved to make accurate what you want your players to do in different situations.

Your idea of artificial randomness (whether from realism or not) being an inherent detriment to esports is wrong. Randomness might hurt player experience, but it also increases Spectator Experience, and spectating is a crucial part of the esports scene. When a player attempts to score a basically impossible equalizer goal from far away in the last minute relying on the random shooting algorithm, the crowd goes loud if it goes in the net, even though the other player got severely punished for no reason. How are card games like Poker even an esport if randomness is a bad thing? Some characters in competitive games like Brawl Stars have randomness completely defining the character (Chester ultimate). Football games should give the player ways to control the randomness (e.g. use a player with higher shooting stats), but not completely eliminate it, never. Of course, we can discuss how much randomness is good or bad, and I can agree the current value is too much, but still, you get my point.

Depends on what you are playing mate. If you are playing career mode offline, then you can just tweak the game to make it kinda realistic. In online it shouldn't be. There shouldn't be any chance or luck to the game. It should be skill based

i want the trillogy :P part 3 lets go