I love what she says about the dark night how as it gets worse, you have less of a choice. It’s so like that - the choice just keeps shrinking and shrinking the deeper you go!
When I was about 13 or 14 in the late 80s I had an experience that lines up with what you guys were talking about in the discussion, but it didn't lead to freedom, it led to decades of existential terror. It is a long story, but essentially, I was sitting on my porch looking at a beautiful sky, when suddenly I started hearing 'wah wah' sounds in my ears. I remember I was sitting cross-legged, and I felt pressure at the base of my skull in the back, like the top of my spine was vibrating intensely. At first, I thought, wow! This feels cool. Then the vibrations sped up, and the wah wah sound started to go up in pitch until it was one continuous high-pitched sine wave like sound. Suddenly, my mouth dried out, and I had a mental image like my body was a container of water that was being sucked out through the base of my spine into an infinitely small point. Suddenly, I was no longer anywhere. Just seeing, like a pair of eyes but no actual eyes into infinite darkness. I seem to remember that I knew everything for a very brief moment. But then things took a horrible turn. Suddenly, I was simultaneously all of existence yet trapped as an infinitely tiny immovable point in space. I was overwhelmed by terror, but when I tried to cry out, there was this indescribable hopelessness. It was if knowing itself was mocking me. Each cry was like a movement in a clockwork universe where everything was in a grotesquely hideous, terrifyingly perfect synchrony. An infinitely repeating pattern, like being part of fractal and being forced to know it. It felt like being halfway between two universes. I remember there being a sort of voice telling me that I had always been here and that life is just a dream that I used to escape from reality. But I couldn't escape forever. Eventually, I came out of it but could never shake the experience. Over the next few years, I would slip back into it like a panic attack. Really strong dejavu sense followed by a strong sense of the universe being a closed loop clockwork system. It was so hard to explain and so scary. At first, I would snap out of it, but after a few years of the trauma resurfacing, my perception permanently shifted to the way it is now. It feels like I am not in my body, but paradoxically, I feel super contracted into my head. Yet it also feels like neither I nor nothing else is real. About 6 or 7 years ago, I discovered Vipassana and did a 10 day retreat, which was fascinating because I was able to trigger the panic attack after several days of meditation and watch it play out with equanimity. I can get into some pretty profound states of meditation, which are interesting but not ultimately liberating. I feel like I am on the cusp of relief but can't figure out how to get through this paper thin wall of intense suffering. How many years of inquiry is this going to take.
@SimplyAlwaysAwake yeah, I have heard people talk about DMT trips before and there were similar elements. For me the frustration is that instead of experiencing it as "Wow! I am all of it, and there isn't really no other out there!" I experience it as "omg, I am all of it, there is no time nor space and I am completely and terrifyingly alone". Lol... what do you do with that. Because it doesn't feel like a thought or idea, it feels like a knowing because I was there... if that makes sense. Kind of like when Shinzen Young compared DPDR as the evil twin to enlightenment.
I totally understand. When you are completely unprepared it can be extremely destabilizing/ terrifying. As simple as this sounds, acceptance of the process is ultimately the key. Tho this depth of acceptance usually takes years and multiple stepwise insights. In these extreme cases you get vast insight with zero preparation, context or ability to integrate. You are in a good place now as far as aligning with resources and those who have clarified these insights.
@@SimplyAlwaysAwake yes, I suppose all I can do is just keep going. It will be interesting to see what triggers the change in perspective from horror to being ok with what I am seeing. Funny thing is, I can sit down on a mat right now, and bring myself to that place in a very short time. I always think that I can be brave and accept it 'this time' but once the shift occurs, my heart automatically starts beating extemely fast, and I just KNOW I am about to flick a switch in my brain that will kill me. I don't know how to explain it, other than I am totally fine until I get to that exact moment. Anyway sorry for all the text. Not meaning to get a free therapy session. :) A lot of thoughts just surprisingly coming out.
Wish you all the best 😃 “Nobody can bear this lightness. "The unbearable lightness of Being". It depresses you because you are in the void, this void which will teach you and empty you so that you become the void of the void. Because only the void of the void doesn't know the void. The Buddhists, who are very concerned by Emptiness, say that Emptiness is the only teacher. Then you become accustomed to the void, which will erase you at the end. What is in the void cannot remain. At the beginning you do everything to avoid it until you cannot do it anymore. Then it devours you. And when you are no more there, the void is no more.” ― Karl Renz, Commentaries On The Gospel Of Thomas
Kiran’s ability to accurately express connection to Source as healing is unparalleled. Absolutely brilliant and Angelo as usual allows full expression with minimum interruption. Absolutely wonderful thank you both 🙏🫂💚xx
While I fully appreciate this interview, thank you Angelo! I must admit it's a bit hard for me to swallow it. Going from full awakening to business coaching seems a bit too much and I don't know what to make of it. Also the elves and dwarfs part ... It seems to have made things more confusing instead of clarifying, at least for me, so maybe I'll give it some time and ponder on all of it.
I feel like there was a lot of story, concept and belief in this interview. It was interesting and may help some feel better but I just feel like it's a lot of mind chatter ultimately. I guess this was really about making the character feel better? Function better? which is fair enough as we can't escape our human brains.
This was/is amazing. I fond the first 1/2 terrifying because "loss of control" which is very deep fear of mine. And then when Kiran was talking about "how to" I found that very reassuring that I am indeed on the right track. Quite a ride...
I was fully resonating with the interview until she started separating people into ‘types’ - personally, I saw myself in all of them. Also, for her to be prescribing diets with such certainty felt somehow not right. I hope it doesn’t add more confusion to an already challenging area for many to navigate.
I agree. But to give it the benefit of the doubt, it sounds like a fun way to sort of organize/orient a person's inner work if it resonates with them. I've noticed over decades of working tons of random "shit" jobs, that there do seem to be "types" of people. There was always the "x" guy or girl, the "y" guy or girl, etc. no matter what kind of job it was. But it's hard to put people in super specific boxes and say that someone is _definitely_ this or that archetype 100%.
🎉 another great interview! Wow, my heart goes out to Kiran for everything she went through as a child. It’s amazing that she channeled her energy into helping others, especially at such a young age. This awakening story was very interesting and I love how she was able to clearly explain everything. Thank you, Angelo! ❤
What a beautiful complement to the David Berceli interview. Thank you both for this ❤. I love the simplicity of the practice of saying Yes to everything that comes. Gary Weber recommends the same practice.
I thought this life for me was about learning how to be normal and that awakening was for others. Thank you for this interview, as someone with CPTSD, this provides hope.
I wasn't going to choose this talk, but glad I did, it was refreshing to address the missing parts for people who've not awakened 100%. I liked the archetypes but was surprised Angelo didn't challenge that whole thinking as more mind structuring. 2. How does anyone without formal cognitive training even know if awakening is or isn't some kind of dissociative psychosis? The converse being : why have we all selectively EVOLVED this filtering apparatus in the first place??? If not to better navigate this identity reality , with our evolved physical senses? 3. Hard to reconcile: a. An awakened person "sees" that there is no 'doer" and that consciousness (or "it") is doing it all. b. But then Kiran wished she had a goPro to see what her identity was doing at that lunch? Did the other people report any specific / odd behaviour back to her later on??? c. Also, she 'knew' the wall was being "chosen" to be a wall..by whom??? Consciousness or the identity????
That "energetic creatures" stuff sounds like mind-made-up nonsense, honestly... I'm on the fence about a lot of "supernatural" stuff, but I usually stop at Leprechauns and such. Would love to be open enough to see one though!
Fascinating....just one question......if Kiran had been awakened in past lives, why the traumatic events of this life......or do I have too simplistic a notion of karma?
Thank you for sharing Kiran and Angelo. Kiran it's amazing how you turned your worst nightmare around. Your work is fascinating. What impressed me most was "going to your quiet place and waiting for inspiration". Silence is beautiful!
I’ve never resonated more with a speaker in my life. She really is obviously awake and that’s the first time I’ve been able to say that about anyone in 12 years of this hellscape of a practice 😂
I love this awakening story. I’m coming from a place with some childhood trauma. Realising that it’s not only my mind, but my body that is holding my stories.
Wow! Thank you Angelo and Kiran. This is such an enlightening sharing of awakening. As you always say Angelo, everyone's story of awakening is unique. I feel deeply for Kiran pre awakening. I found it interesting she said she recalled or reconnected to other lifetimes of being awakened but still either had to or choose to go through such extreme trauma prior to awakening this time. I had gotten the sense from many spiritual teachers and teachings that once one is self realized you no longer needed to come back veiled if you even came back. In gratitude and appreciation to you both. Namaste❤
This is a wonderful conversation. I relate more to Ms. Trace than anyone else I’ve seen on your channel. She is so articulate and honest. Thanks for the introduction. Although, I have to say this all sounds so terrifying.
Love the talk here, and i love the story when Kiran went to the Adyashanti's satsang some time fresh after awakening and just shouted stop 😅 cause he was bringing people so close to that realization. I think its in her book tools for sanity
@@SimplyAlwaysAwake i mean you definitely were both flowing in that conversation so it was nice to have other aspects explored as well. what i also enjoyed when she was on a buddha at a gas pump mention that because of the trauma - she had this inquiry in all conversations that is that true? or what is truth? are they telling the truth? kind of high alertness at all times.
I was wondering to buy but english is not my native. Is this book written in difficult English or one that can be understood by someone with an intermediate level?
I love the audiobook. Angelo narrates it. And Erik speaks the quotes from other sources. I feel they are bookends to the ideas and support them well. I remember books better when they are read to me by the author. I get distracted while reading for myself and maybe I'm a little slow. The author knows the rhythm better than I.
I can't seem to access the free 9-day course. Not sure about this fairy-nome-dwarf etc. idea yet. Will have to do more 'research.' Let's see where it takes us.
Yeah, 6 archetypes and billions of people in vastly different socio-economic situations…. hard to think about ‘protein requirements as an elf’ when you’re in a place like South Sudan or Somalia or Afghanistan… 😑
Hell yes! Yes! Yes! What a wonderful being Kiran Trace is 😃❤️ Thanks so much for this absolutely gorgeous conversation. Thank you Kiran for the free 9-day-course. I’m very curious what type of suit I’m wearing in this lifetime (it could be an elf but not sure yet) ❤️🙏❤️🙏❤️
I don't know if that has ever been addressed here but what's up with looking at ourselves in the mirror and feeling like it's not really us? Like that thing is just borrowed..?
I appreciated the comment about "hands off", when doing emotional/trauma work. The 'yes' resonates and I'm adding it to the softening and widening movement that I already have (Imogen tells me the same thing, over and over). I found that even with TRE, it still felt forced, and a lot of hands on. I know it's different for everyone. I appreciated listening to this interview and I learned a lot. The main thing was the seeing of the same pointing's, but coming from a very different presentation. Kirin and Imogen are very different, and yet their pointing's are the same. Thank you❤🙏
I don't have enough words to thank you how beautiful and mesmerizing this is. 🙏✨😇💫☁️ Thank you from the bottom of my heart, so grateful for everything shared, so pure and loving expression of the unspeakable. ♥️❤️💝🙏
Let the source energy burn away all your trauma's and self-beliefs. They are just knots in your kundalini system. Talking to a psychiatrist or therapist is just re-enforcing your trauma/ reliving/consolidating/re-enforcing/reliving/putting in another, yet just another dualistic concept. That's so enlightening!
Sometimes archetypal approaches can be helpful I find. Really depends how they are utilized and ultimately the outcome for a given individual that matters.
Reality is just some kind of dance of consciousness, conscious playing with itself, just for fun, and you are just a part of it, you don't have to lead or steer your life. I am baking bread. Bread is baking you. The universe wants this being happening, just like a baby slapping on his table and experiencing all the different aspects of it, admiring it, everything is new, until it is pinned down. Then it is just a memory or desire, thought, and dead.
I'm going through a dark night rn, and hearing this story is very healing for me but at the same time I find myself feeling jealous of how productive Kiran was through all turmoil :o How did she do it, I cant help but feel bad :/
Had a pretty profound* awakening tonight and this video came at the right time. This is what was realized. YOU don’t get to go there. This is the peak of true no self. You don’t get to experience it. You will experience true death before you die. Anyone who complains is the ego, not you. You have to let go of everything that you see as yourself entirely. There is no knower. There is no thinker. There is no doer. There is no want There is no not want. There is no consciousness. There is no not consciousness. Even though these are all thoughts they still exist in appearance. You can not resist thought. You can only accept what is, especially if it scares you. The pain is temporary but the experience is real. You can’t imagine that you will be ok after its over. You need to entirely TRUST the self to its absolute core. When there is only trust there is no resistance. True no self is the Self. It’s a merging into one. You need to have integrity down to your bones and come face to face all issues in life to see truth.
Totally relate to the PTSD. I'd get triggered and suffer for a week. Until I started to accept it. Then I was abused by my x wife and had to go through it all over again. Pushed me to awaking.
@bestillandknowIam Wow, R! Thank you so much for the rec! That makes my whole day! 😁 Believe it, or not... while it has been on my radar for a long time, I've never actually heard heard it in full! I'm embarrassed to admit it. Maybe, we even had it - at some point - in our collection. I've heard one tune off it, which I remember being entranced by. It's such a deeply revered and respected album, so I am definitely very keen to listen to it, seeing as how much emotional resonance it holds for you. I'm really excited to dive in! I can't quite believe I haven't actually done so yet. 🎧 Sacrilege, I know! I will absolutely check it out soon, and I'm sure it will blow me away! 💛😁 Thank you so much, R! ✨🎶🙏🏻 P.S. I'm listening to Talk Talk's, "Spirit of Eden" and this is an album that I feel connected to. It affects me on an emotional level. I'm listening to "Desire" right now... 💛
@bestillandknowIam Hello R, thank you! I'd love to share music recs with you. 💛 Those Focal Utopias look really top-quality. I prefer listening with my 🎧 as well ... I've always done so. I like to cocoon myself with an immersive experience. I think you've tapped into the emotion-tone of "Desire". It definitely does have a wistful melancholy to it, and I always get that just from the opening sparse chords. I've listened to that album throughout practically my whole life. My mom had it on cd, and I remember being lured in by the cover which looked quite surreal. Even though it contains a few tracks, it feels like it covers so much musical ground. It's long. I remember listening to it as a kid and being captivated by the segue from the 2nd to 3rd track. "Eden" to "Desire". It did, and still does, something to elicit an emotion I can't fully convey with mere words. It's deeply bittersweet. As I listen to it now, it's still there but I appreciate it so much more for its jazzy nuances, and style. _Spirit of Eden_ is one of those kind of records that you have to hear in its entirety, to fully appreciate the musical layers. It's such a beautiful album. It's perfect. I always return to it again and again. Years later, I read, or heard that it influenced another album I remember being taken by, as a teen - "OK Computer" by Radiohead. I'm not sure if that's even true, but I can hear the influence, and I love the mythology of it! I'm going to listen to "Tubular Bells" later today, when the moment strikes me as being suitable to plug in and drown in it 🎧💛☺️ and I am so looking forward to this! Thank you so much for your reflections (and for the rec!) Keep well, R! 🦋✨
@bestillandknowIam 😜😂 Cheers, mate! Ditto! Relatable on all accounts, hehe. Except for me, it's usually a contemptuous, "what _is_ that shit?" 😂 I love it though, being plugged in 🎧 listening to some awesome tunes! Definitely enhances the mood of the whole listening experience. Like being in a sensory deprivation tank - except you're bathed in the ambience of sounds! Makes me feel like I'm permanently in a music vid! Love it 😁
This was fantastic. Thank you! @KiranTrace I'm looking for community and teachers in Toronto or elsewhere in Canada. Can you give me a hint of who to connect with?
Thank you Angelo & Kiran 👀 this was beautiful and mesmerizing like someone else said. 🙏🏻♥️ I want to leave the mind blown emoji too but I’ve decided it’s getting to be a bit redundant at this point. 😂 but wow 😯☺️
I had all my fuses blown eckhart tolle style, too. But some vestige of the ego remained and hijacked the experience, turning the experience of heaven into hell for many years. I feel I’ve totally reintegrated and rebuilt an ego through alcohol abuse that I used to numb myself to the existential panic. But I’ve been sober six years now. Studying Advaita and meditating for two years. I’m just not sure what to expect when realization happens again. I don’t know if it will be full on nonduality again, like Kiran describes here. Or a different type of shift, or none at all. But kundalini energy has been more active. If this type of full on nonduality happens again, what should a person do Angelo? Thank you for your work and your free meditation app! They are very strong pointings! And thanks for this interview! Thank you Kiran!
Once upon a time I regurlary used to see what could be called nature spirits. They're these little blobs of energy, some of them seem to have wings and they seemm facinated with the plants and trees and shower love on them. It's there in the consciousness and of course it means fuck all. What is this woman on about??
Same here. At one point Angelo asks a specific question and she answers with a lot of words but never adresses the question. And what about awakening in a past life and coming back to a crappy new life? It is surely not motivating to hear this 😂
There is a lot of red flags in this interview, starting with the opening image of the video, personnally I don't understand why someone would choose a sexy portrait of themselves for a spiritual interview, is it her choice or Angelo's? I don't know, but why does this portrait even exist if your awake? It's almost funny. She's also not coherent in her story , she says she had no spiritual knowledge when her big awakening happened and yet she knew what her roommate was talking about when she asked her if she was ''Ekhart Tolled''. She also mentions her book twice in the first 50 minutes in sentences where it has no true purpose except to throw it in there to advertise. It's just disappointing to sense inauthenticity, makes me doubt every contemporary spiritual teacher. I like Angelo but can't he tell the difference between a realized person and a person who may (or prentends to...) have had a certain spiritual experience and made a career out of it? I'll stop here, sorry if my message is long, I honestly never do this but this time it was just too much.@@feelwithme487
Not being judgmental but why does the pig and the cow matter while the suffering of the chicken and the fish doesn't?. Watch Dominion 2018 and it will change your mind for sure
What really triggers me is the fact, that she already awoke in other life times and then reincarnates and having all the trauma again? I thought that when you've awoken ones you don't have to go through this suffering again? 🤔
Thank you so much for answering. So does it mean that it could take one more awakenings to resolve karmic bondage? My mind is just thinking: "well if you really have to do it that often, then it's too exhausting." @@SimplyAlwaysAwake
@@lillidaurer8313 Yes ,everyone's path and karma is different. Best to focus on your own path/practice as that is what you are called to do and that is what is in your capability. And enjoy the process :)
Rupert Spira uses the analogy of us being whirlpools in an ocean. When the energy of the whirlpool dissipates (death), that whirlpool doesn’t become another whirlpool in a long succession of whirlpools that are essentially the same (person). Aspects of the currents and energies in that whirlpool may go off into other eddies or whirlpools or not. This is the only thing that makes sense to me regarding this.
Sone experiential aspects of psychosis open one to “seeing” reality in a more unfiltered way. However most symptoms and signs of psychosis are absent with awakening. Such as disorganized speech, disorganized behavior, hallucinations, inability to function, delusions of grandeur or persecution etc etc
Holy crap I think i'm a hobbit...although my brain has always moved very quickly so I dunno. This video was released on my birthday, side note. I enjoyed it. Update...maybe a gnome now that i've listened further. I did spend about 2 years making a video game about gnomes called Gnomestead.
Wish I could understand this "no control" stuff. It fucks me over everytime I hear it mentioned and I actually end up avoiding listening to these types of videos because of it. No control to me means no control. No option but to write this comment, no option but to follow or not follow the advice of completely self-realised (or whatever the expression is; I still don't know) people. It is absolutely horrible as an idea and makes everything completely fucking pointless.
I hear you. Probably the "control no-control" thing isn't something the mind can figure out, but it sure is good at kicking out all those thoughts that we can so easily spin out in (down the rabbit hole). Like you wrote .. "a horrible *idea*" ... that you don't have to believe. Some wise person once said, "Understanding is the booby prize." All the best to you 🙏
You are moving in the right direction. You have to figure out how to get past it. Surrender is a better word. Letting go of control is complete freedom.
Yes you are absolutely right. You have to accept all of that. YOU don’t get to go there. This is the peak of true no self. You don’t get to experience it. You will experience death before you die. Anyone who complains is the ego, not you. You have to let go of everything that you see as yourself entirely. The pain is temporary but the experience is real. You can’t imagine that you will be ok after its over. You need to entirely TRUST the self so its absolute core. When there is only trust there is no resistance. True no self is the Self. It’s a merging into one. Doing shadow work and therapy is the key. You need to have integrity down to your bones and face all issues in life to see truth.
@@the_sleepy_engineer Thanks, I really appreciate the comment. There are a few things I would say however. The first is that I feel no pain. I almost wish I did because it would be a sign that I was disappearing. Perhaps I'm misunderstanding the word 'pain'. I have felt pain in the past in my chest, like a sort of emotional pain, and it took a while to go. Second, as I touched on, I would love to disappear. I had a 'glimpse' once and it was the most incredible experience. I couldn't even say 'I' when I came back to this because I knew it was a lie. If I could press a button and end all of this I would. I'm sure there is some resistance that I'm not aware of. Third, I still don't know how to do shadow work. Fourth, I'm confused again by the suggestion that I trust the Self. So I have the ability to trust the Self? Is that not control? Thanks.
The whole no control thing is a very difficult concept to understand honestly. No control implies a deep, direct, and somewhat abiding insight into the nature of Reality. We can look at the Buddhist concept of emptiness, and the Heart Sutra. What's meant by no control is when one realizes that they never truly had control at all over life, or themselves. All the sense of self and physical reality is, is a series of cause and effects, there is no control because the psychic forces that inform you of a sense of self, will, desire, reaction and much else arise out of the ineffable interconnectedness of the universe appearing as you, the history, society, your family, the cosmos, all dependent on eachother and arising out of the space that you are, which is no self, nothingness, its the infinite clean slate upon which the canvas of life is painted on, ebbing and flowing on this canvas but never truly allowing itself to stop and be silent. You'll find in deeper investigations and realizations (sometimes very harsh ones) that you never truly had control, because there's no seperate self who has control, it's an ephemeral of constantly changing phenomenon mistaken as "self", "identity", and "reality". No control, no self is about realizing this to such an extent thats it pierces and becomes the abiding ground of existence, one of profound mystery, beauty, surrender, and discovery, because it's nobody, nothing, nowhere, experiencing what it's like to be someone, something, and everywhere. It becomes a phenomenon of complete surrender, acceptance and love for yourself and Life as it truly is, and you allow yourself to flow with life, dancing with it, dancing with the phenomenon arising out of and dissolving into Consciousness without effort, in a beautiful and utterly mysterious dance of Life experiencing itself, because there was no seperate self to ever experience it. However, there's nothing to ever be afraid of, because you are so deeply loved that you've always been allowed to be in control, to feel like you have control, as Consciousness is completely autonomous and free, and that includes free to contract and fall asleep into the dream of a seperate self. It's the means Consciousness experiences, contemplates, and knows itself in its multiplicity of appearing forms. 😊 You'll find that when you let go of selfhood and control, you find an ever unfolding and expanding sense of ineffably radical intimacy, love, appreciation, and beauty with life. All of Life becomes a beautiful mystery, and you experience yourself as everything, including your seperate sense of self. You find that through this, you radically evolve from a tyrannical control freak to pure openness, intimacy, and a simple and intuitive approach to life, surrendering to life and letting Life itself be your guide as you dance with life, with yourself in complete harmony. You find Love, a vast unimaginable Love and Stillness that encompasses all of Reality, a Love so profound that despite your sense of self being completely obliterated by it, you're still free to be you, still free to make mistakes and mistakingly believe you have any real control, and you'll be reminded that it's best to take the passenger seat, I can't even begin to describe what it's like.
I feel like I've been a hundred percent committed for well over a decade or embarrassingly two. Knowing I can't do anything. Feel like I've heard almost everything, willing to surrender anything. Ate more than 20 plus G of psilocybin with a willingness to die ( wouldn't recommend that). Years of meditation, years of inquiry and keeping notes, ritchuals... strangely I'll keep at it. But sadly I'm not sure I believe these people anymore. Maybe they're delusional. it is the case in most spirituality.
interesting. Have you worked 1:1 with a realized teacher/facilitator? If not that may ber the key for you. Ego is very adaptable and can hide in all kinds of places/situations/ even extreme experiences. Just something to consider.
@@raycallie637 All due respect to Kiran and Angelo, but I get the sense that you need less framework and more freedom. Have you ever seen any of Paul Hedderman’s videos? It feels right that there’s nothing that needs to be done, but if what any of these nondual speakers are saying is not complete BS, what we are is / has always been here, and it is this idea of the seeker or the one who is lacking something that is obscuring how we see. Just be careful with a teacher, like Kiran’s ‘brand’ of spirituality is not my cup of tea and I am not sure how Angelo determined that she transmits… all good, not hate, just an observation, and another moment where I question everyone’s intentions, but since you have been trying, trying, trying for years, I’d be careful with any teacher that gives you a framework or path, i just get the sense you are lost like me, believing that there’s something transactional that will transpire and bring us home. Hedderman won’t charge you anything, nor does his message change, and all he does is point. Take my friend.
Elijah is here. The toll has been paid for your sins, now his Church is about to be towed away. Wake up body of Christ, for the time of the Night Theif is here. 10-15 11am-7pm false peace will come. Seek Christ and he will seek you. In the tide of a golden sea, rouge waves will hit you with glory. Seek Christ and his spirit will seek and find you, working miracles beyond the constructs between your temples. Whats faster than light? Only God Speed, so God's Speed to all.
Why should anyone be interested in any body's experience? It seems like another ego trip to me. And it goes for having a non-duality channel as well. These RU-vid channels and their content may make some money for the creators, which is cool I guess, but that comes at the expense of many people trying to get awakened by 'listening and understanding'. It's just profiting on people's insecurity. That is never cool.
@@SimplyAlwaysAwake People will always wake up, that is how life goes. They have already woken up the moment they are drawn to this. No person can influence that. Aren't you supposed to know this?
@@user-ge2oh8nj5htoo simplistic a view. Transmission definitely occurs. This has been well known since the time of Buddha. Before actually. It’s discussed in the suttas thoroughly. More importantly ask anyone who has gone through the shift. It rarely comes out of nowhere.
