Reality Steve Talks Controversy & Katie's Season (*1 small spoiler for Bachelor in Paradise) 

Man ..Whit was a great interviewer like she wasn't sugarcoating anything but was professional

I think Steve is feeling sorry for himself and his apology doesn’t sound authentic. I don’t think he’s sorry about his behavior. You both did a good job at holding him accountable.

Appreciate you guys calling him out and I echo everyone’s sentiment that we shouldn’t give this man a platform anymore. He clearly hasn’t learned from his past and doesn’t take accountability for his misogynistic writings. Boo this man.

I would just like to say, I appreciate the incredible women you two are. No matter the content of what you are doing, you remain very admirable in who you are as women. It's also encouraging to other women and young lady's how you choose to treat others, despite the situations or misconceptions that may come with it. All while remaining true to who you are, and that shows true character. Thanks for continuing to inspire me in growing, not only as a woman, but as a human being in general 🤗

What Steve Says About the Drama: 1. They (media) are having fun at my expense. 2. They exaggerated the story. 3. My mom agrees it was badly shared. 4. I didn’t know better. It was 2016. And it happened after Me Too movement. 5. I addressed the bad writing on my podcasts, but didn’t really think about it. 6. I’m grateful for the reality check, but I didn’t think about it because it was years ago. 7. I’ve changed 8. I’m going to stick to spoilers 9. I’ve not been affected by this monetarily 10. They will still all watch me for spoilers 11. What are you basing calling me a creep on? Do you know all the facts of what you are basing it on? I’ve changed. 12. My critics don’t know me personally. 13. It was a one-time incident. 14. I had never met Demi before when I did this. 15. Have done this with people I’ve flirted or dated. 16. I’ve involved myself with a women’s shelter in Dallas, I’ve deleted everything I’ve ever wrote, won’t write like that again. 17. My ex knew about it. I told her before I told Demi. I was dating someone at the time. One of the reasons I told Demi was because my girlfriend thought it was funny too. 18. Demi is loud likes to be the center of attention, but I’m not going to report on. He hasn’t apologized really, but kept saying how people who are reporting this is for “fun,” “wrong reasons,” because of Me Too. Maybe he’s changed, can’t see his heart, but seems like he’s still upset about being called out. Which I can see, but at the same time. It seems like if it is big enough to change for, it is big enough to apologize for?

This was a really great interview. Something about the way Steve speaks and the sound of his voice irritates me, so I am not a fan of listening to him but I am a fan of what you guys did here as two women, making him own up to his mistakes and having a tough conversation about the wrongdoings. All the lessons that could have come from the Chris Harrison situation will now be buried because of his settlement; so even though it's a different topic, what you guys did here was much needed. I can't imagine it was an easy interview to conduct, so a big round of applause to you two.

It doesn't seem like he's really sorry...and he's bragging about how he'll be fine. He acts like he's the victim too 🤢🤢

12:27 Ry squirms in chair, takes a deep breath, thinks "this guy is full of shit"

Reality Steve didn’t take accountability for his actions at all. I appreciate you guys for calling him out, but this really shows how little he has learned. I’ve definitely lost respect for him.

We didn’t accept back then either people were just afraid to come forward. He doesn’t seem to really get it

I really want to give Steve the benefit of the doubt, and I really believe in second chances. But everything about this interview is him putting blame on other people. “Why did everyone ALLOW me to write that way”. And that Demi situation is SO gross:/

I'm sorry. I don't buy the "I was going along with the cool kids" excuse. He knew better, he felt validated by people's acceptance. That does not mean it was EVER acceptable. A decent human being should know better. His response is terrible! People have a problem with sexist, misogynistic, language. Take accountability! Thank you for this interview - Whit & Ry.

y’all did such a great job handling this interview :)

I appreciate this interview and you giving Steve a chance to give his side of things. I also can’t wait to watch The Chatty Broads and their response, as he is clearly referencing them. You two should really do a collaboration with them. Four strong women together, discussing it all! Too good!

Yikes . . He was deflecting and putting the blame on others almost the whole time

Thank you for not allowing excuse after excuse. It’s a serious issue and accountability is extremely important to stop behavior like this from happening again.

I want to like Steve. I really do. I just hate the way he's handling this, especially in this interview. Just own it and apologize over and over. Not playing the victim and give 100 excuses. I definitely agree everyone should be given a second chance. We aren't perfect. But if you don't own it and apologize, I don't want to forgive you. Just my opinion.

I wish they had asked about the Jenna Cooper situation. That to me was one of the worst things he is ever done and the main reason why I think he doesn’t deserve to remain “working”. He said it: if he wasn’t his own boss he would have been fired. HE SHOULD BE FIRED. Where is the accountability?

If you wouldn't be ok with someone talking to your mom or sister like that you should know better at your grown age

He doesn't even act apologetic. He's just excusing it and saying that people can think what they think.

Excellent job on this interview! Thank you for not letting him get away with constantly play victim, and instead, calling him out for what he has done and questioning why he doesn’t feel worse about it. Great interview, love Whit and Ry!!

Steve is still bitter and it shows. He's a very immature 45 year old, and it's sad to see. He has not accepted responsibility for his words and deeds, he deflects back at those he wronged! Boo hiss!

A lot was done differently then. I admit that I used to think that kind of language and comments was funny. My guy friends used to talk that way. We're all learning. Im a woman guilty of this. I also realise it is wrong now. This all helps people to grow awareness and work on themselves

Great job Ladies on that uncomfortable interview. In my opinion the more this continues to be discussed, called out, and people then given the opportunity to correct themselves and grow, the better off we will all be. There are very few people who are beyond hope in being able to ‘fix’ themselves, so in general, we shouldn’t give up on them. But some do really need the big push to get there. The few that are beyond hope…. We will know…. it will be obvious. Thank you for this bold and fair interview! And now for the fun… can’t wait for BiP…. that show makes me laugh for 2 hours straight, it’s such a ‘Spring Breakesque’ crazy show.

Thank you for holding him accountable

I think in 20 years it's a little late to rebrand the franchise. It's like the brand is aimlessly searching for a woke brand because of society. The bus left the station when Chris Harrison picked up his final paycheck. I watched since beginning with minimal changes but they are running fast and hard towards "SMUTTY". Its no longer about finding love. The seasons like Firestone, Sean Lowe, etc. Its gone south and all about Instagram followers, landing a job in Hollywood, starting a podcast, on and on.

Thanks for putting his feet to the fire Whit, especially about him not knowing it was wrong, really? In my opinion, him saying it was "acceptable" back then and no one told him it was wrong is just a cop out. Men knew it was wrong, but they were getting away with it... the difference now is they're not!

I don't know who this man is or what he did. I don't flow towards Batchelor Nation because it seems toxic. You guys did a great job of holding him accountable but do not give this creep any more platforms. Love y'all!

the way he talks about demi not acknowledging his apology is as if he feels she is the one who should apologize to him for coming out with her story. like ~HE’S the bigger person for apologizing to her EVEN THO demi did this to him~ and he dances around the situation by rambling on about other topics. “icky” is the best way to describe how he makes me feel.

This was soooo good! This is why I love you guys and did not want to judge before actually watching the interview

Lack of awareness is not an excuse 😒

Love Whit and Ry. ❤ Thank you for holding Steve accountable in this interview.

I love whit ! Way to call him out ! Also He barely spoils anything these days. He’s either gotten so lazy or he lost his sources. He used to spoil things week by week now he’s like “hey here’s the final 4 ok bye”

I have less respect for him now tbh. He seems like he is taking in the victim role. The fact that he is upset that Demi hasn’t responded to him - FYI she owes you nothing and you still don’t get that.

5 mins in Ry taking deep breaths

THIS AN UNPOPULAR OPINION. As a woman I have been in uncomfortable situations too. I think we all (women) have. However, this interaction was over the phone about a stupid dream he had. I believe everything that Demi says about what happened and how she felt, but the bullying that this man is facing seems to me like a huge revenge from people in Bachelor nation. He over shared about his sexual dream, so let’s all make sure we humiliate him and make him feel like a piece of s***. Really? I think we are all better than that. This cancel culture is all about taking things out of proportion. SO EXTREME. This guy is not Weinstein... PS: I bet we would be having a completely different conversation (or not a conversation at all) if he looked like Brad Pitt

Great interview. I think Steve is a lot more defensive because he’s spoken about this so many times already. Same way people said Taylor was defensive but he’s apologized a few times on his podcast, in his columns and even on his latest live and it was very sincere to me. This is an unpopular opinion but I truly believe he’s changed as someone who’s been reading his columns for a while. Whit & Ry did a great job and he even did a great job interviewing them

He basically gave the same excuse as Chris harrisson. « It was ok back then in 2016 » Like no it was not ok ppl just didn’t speak out about it🤦🏾‍♀️

Great job on the interview questions! Love listening to you ladies!

“If you want to accuse me…” “They’re hypocritical & exaggerated” “Calculated” Poor guy…. He’s the victim here…..

Whit & are, I love u guys and you’re doing a beautiful job but I just can’t listen to him have zero accountability. It’s so dumb for him to say he didn’t know any better at 30.

Sorry, gals. I tried to watch the whole thing and thought you did a great job interviewing, but I couldn’t finish this. He very well may mean well and not know better, but it still makes me sick to listen to him.

Hey guys! I didn't click on this at first; for many reasons-- but decided to listen to 1 min. and then (of course) ended up watching the entire video. Thank you so much for doing a GOOD (and fair) interview here. Your questions and tone were perfect. I had followed Reality Steve for years (even attended his first Vegas bday party when he turned 40.)-- but really stopped interacting or regularly going to his site around 2016 (ironically, since that's the timeframe he notes as where his tone shifted.)-- I actually found that with the addition of his podcasts his pandering to contestants (in an effort to encourage guests I'm assuming) felt SO disingenuous from the person and writings he'd long established. I didn't want to read some ABC 'sanctioned' write up of a show or contestants; I wanted his perspective (minus the shaming and other aspects that I just wrote off as typical frat/ sports guy writing.) But once he wanted "Bachelor nation" approval, he clearly sanitized his overall tone and I found his podcast in particular unlistenable (is that a thing?)-- and I also stopped reading his site then too (also the popups on his site are next- level early 2000s and not fun to read as a result.) Anywho! I really love your youtube channel and reviews-- I'm glad to have found you both (for exactly what I used to get from Steve.. honest recaps (with added hilarity)-- it's just that simple.

18:07 Steve: "I've involved myself with a women's shelter" Me: stares blankly at the screen -- can't he involve himself without announcing it to the world? It would be more genuine.

Excellent interview. Hes a horrible man who won't take responsibility. Getting so offended by that Joe comment yet he made comments about jades SAssault Edit : if anyone hasn't watched chatty broads interview with Jade and Jenna you really should. It affected them so much

Great interview, ladies! Love the authenticity of the questions as usual. Respect his honesty as well. Can’t wait to watch y’all’s BIP videos

Great interview. You held his feet to the fire and didnt let him diminish his actions. Well done ladies

Love that you didn't let him off the hook

Proud of you both, Whit and Ry, for how you approached this interview. Was concerned when you mentioned interviewing him with everything that he's done and went down with the Chatty Broads. You both held him accountable and didn't let him manipulate the story to make himself the victim. Even if he doesn't understand or isn't willing to see himself as anything other than the victim, you still stood your ground and that is really nice to see.

Long time bachelor fan and reader of Reality Steve = he has apologized and had the courage to come on your podcast. If you have read his recent work it's totally different and he exposed much of the behind the scenes producer manipulation. Check out Game of Roses podcast if you want an incredible break down of the game that's also critical. Thank you for giving him an opportunity to apologize. Love your podcast!

By the way. Of all the channels, podcasts, you ladies are managing to stay safe in a very touchy landmines filled time in entertainment. Keeping it up an up without getting controversial. Been watching you for a while now and still comfortable to watch.

“You were in your 30s, Steve” 💀💀💀

I can’t believe you don’t have 100,000 subscribers yet!!! Good job!

Thank you for not canceling him. What happened with Demi wasn't just creepy but WEIRD. But in no way shape or form does it seem like his normal personality. I was surprised he had a girlfriend at the time, because it sounded to me like he very wrongly thought he had an in with Demi and was using the story as a poor choice of a tone-deaf flirting technique.

You two did great! Always love watching you 💕 My boyfriend and I anxiously await your videos (I secretly watch them without him first tho) 😂

I've been reading reality Steve for a good 8/9 years, I'm not new to this all. He is right in saying some things he said was more "acceptable" back then, doesn't mean it's right, but it deemed as fine. Now? Ppl can't say many things because everyone takes offence. Even if it's nothing or a light joke. Did he do wrong? Yes, can we all move on, give him a second chance and see if he will change? Yes. reality Steve always had this type of personality where he is a bit non chalant so for the ppl who don't know him, he may across a certain way, but if you read his blog he's also done good. Thank you ladies for this!! Really appreciate it ♥️

I hoped you’d address his strange behaviour towards Tayshia. In the description it doesn’t mention you speaking about this (still watching)

Well this shows that he doesn’t care what he posted. He’s just making excuses. I’m glad I never watched/listened to him.

Love you guys and loved this interview. You guys asked the tough questions and called him when you thought his answer wasn’t fully believable. ( you guys are more hard hitting than Oprah was in her Harry and Meghan interview😂😂) I also love your new opening!!🥰

“I had the humor of a 20 year old” and yet younger women will still think older men are more “mature.” Steve just proved you wrong

Love your channel and your recaps, but I’m 10 minutes in and I honestly can’t stomach the rest. It’s the lack of both accountability and demonstrated growth he has, with a taste of gas lighting. I’m happy you’re not letting him off and maybe he redeems himself later in the video, but yeah my mental health first.

“HAHA none of this is even gonna affect me at all because I don’t work for anyone”

I just watched Dave Neal recapping your interview. I love Dave and respect him so much and he said to let you guys know so here I am. I enjoy both of your shows. Loyal fan! Keep up the good work!

I don't know what he said that was offensive, but is he really dissing his victim for how she called him out? I'm not buying what he's selling.

Great interview ladies!

Awwwww poor Steve. It was “CALCULATED” and he’s a VICTIM.

i was gonna try to watch this whole thing but i couldnt get past him saying as a 30 something year old man he “didnt know better” and “had the humor of a 20 year old” … too cringy edit: i watched more and got so much more uncomfortable when he talked about joe calling him a loser who spoils the bachelor for a living and he said "i could call him a loser for going on the show" WHAT????

What a great interview! Thanks Whit and Ry 💗

the franchise sexualizes its own contestants. he isn't apart of the franchise. if the people in the franchise care about women.... then why did they not denounce coltons actions when the story came out. People being upset that katie brought a sex toy "sex positive" saying its a family show but they don't bat an eye when the "favorite sex position" questions are being asked.. c'mon... so much needs to change in this franchise. Also no one on that show is there for the right reasons!

👏 for the pushback!

Would love you to do an episode with Dave Neal

“I didn’t know any better.” - LAME & PATHETIC.

and whit you killed this interview !! loved they way you questioned him after his bs

“I’m sorry” with a “but” isn’t an apology. Like everyone else is saying, he clearly still doesn’t understand why what he did was wrong. He’s constantly trying to shift focus to other people being “calculated,” etc. he may be taking baby steps in the right direction, but he’s still at the core unchanged. And as someone who used to read some of his page, even as recent as Matts season he was making comments about Michelle being a teacher and being sexual that really rubbed me the wrong way. He’s just learned how to fit in the language of the culture, I don’t believe he has changed. I appreciate Whit keeping him accountable with a few of the comments he was making and ways he was trying to turn the conversation to other people. BUT, it felt off in the same conversation to immediately shift to Katie’s season, after a conversation where he hasn’t really accepted accountability. I also wish Whit and Ry would have ended the conversation differently. To say “we were shocked, we never had that experience” also feels disjointed. I think there’s a way to say that (which is truth in their experience with him) while also acknowledging the lack of accountability and acceptance he showed, and end with acknowledging the victims of the behavior instead of ending with highlighting him and his platform both with the end of the conversation and with the end of the video itself. It was tough to watch

I wish chris Harrison would have had the opportunity to apologize and discuss everything like this and then could’ve come back as host but producers were not loyal to him

I'm glad you guys have shown that RS can work/speak with women & isn't a misogynistic pig ppl make him out to be. You guys have softened the situation if you know what I mean and all in good taste/manner!👍👍 :)

That was brutal but fair interview! Congrats ladies👏🏿👏🏿

Thanks for giving Reality Steve a platform. We all mess up. We all learn and grow.

Steve was trying to make underhanded comments about Demi again saying "maybe she'll leave engaged again like the last time" and Whit stopped him from going further. He's not 100% sorry from my observations.

Great interview!! About Steve... If I did something like this and I CHANGED I'd address it very differently, and be so much more apologetic. Now, some people are defensive and not everyone knows how to answer to criticism functionally. Some people don't even have the emotional tools to be able to speak well about their mistakes. But I do wonder if he changed his language and stopped doing what he was doing (at least so far) simply because it clearly was no longer profitable to carry on as he was because of the way society (and our rhetoric) has changed. I can't help being skeptical when someone is talking about it the way he is; his behaviour and language doesn't help me give him the benefit of the doubt.

Whit I love your shirt!!!! Where did you get it? You ladies did a great job!!! ❤️

Love that Whit was candid and direct! However, Steve did not once seem remorseful! It was more of like, “I’m sorry I got caught” kind of attitude. He wanted to get back at them by saying, they had a “narrative” and “motive” but not once did he take full responsibility! And it wasn’t just the Demi thing, it’s what he did and said to Jenna and Jade! Idk, you ladies can obviously be acquainted to him if you’d like, but I can do without having to hear this poor of an excuse of a man ever again! The only reason I watched it, is because I really love watching your recaps and love you ladies, and wanted to know your thoughts about the situation. But honestly, I will skip future videos where you have him on as a guest.

Thanks for sharing this interview and asking these tough questions! The “acceptance” of this in previous years is the same point I feel Chris Harrison was trying to make but wow it came out so wrong for Chris. Just this GA Guls opinion. I am forever a Chris Harrison fan. Love how Reality Steve admitted in his 30’s he had humor of 20 year old. I totally get that. Not a creep. No need to be cancelled. Appreciate y’all bringing this to light. And yes Chris will be fine. Whit & Ry - do y’all recap BIP? Please say yes 🙏 please say yes 🙏 please say yes 🙏

This was a good interview ladies. You made Steve answer some questions. I used to read RS more after 2016, not as much before - but i do remember reading before and thinking this guy has calmed down and changed is style. I just chalked it up to it seems that he took the job a bit more seriously or maybe someone had called him out on how much fun he poked at the show and contestants before. I wish you guys asked him more about Tayshia as he did seem to go after her a lot and had her ex husband on his podcast. I think GS Joe was just trying to stick up for his cohost Tayshia in name calling RS, but not a mature move, but RS admitted he was not so mature himself. RS could have presented himself better than when he says Demi had "motivations" for coming out when she did. Also it makes more why Nick was so hard on RS when he was his podcast, "The Viall Files" Nick & Demi are good friends. Thanks for the interview though ladies!

Thank you both for keeping him accountable in that interview! I just hope that you won't affiliate with him

He told a woman (he didn‘t know) about his sex dream? Is he out of his mind? Even if it is a some time ago. I didn‘t like how he handled all the situations, back then and now in the interview. He obviously does not have a feeling, ethically or morally, no compass for what is ok or not ok, and for his position and power. I choose to not look at and read his work anymore. Great interview from the two of you! You are very good in this.

This was great.

I have followed Steve for many years. He has changed a lot for the better. He has also helped a lot of people which is going unsaid. Steve has made bad decisions in the past, but overall, he's a good guy.

whit and ry - I love you guys and your channel and I want to continue to support your Bach recap vids, but I would be remiss if I didn't say I was sad to see you guys interview RS. I don't think RS should be given a platform at this point after seeing everything he has written and the way he reacted to Chatty Broads making the OG video. watching through the video it's clear RS doesn't really 'get it' and while I understand he might not write that way anymore, he doesn't really take any accountability without also trying to defend his words. I will say, even though I'm sad you gave RS a platform here on your channel, I'm glad you give him some heat in this interview.

Excellent interview!

I couldn’t finish this interview

He's not going to comment on anything Demi does. He is just going to talk shit about her with clear disdain on podcasts 😄

Don't think he's a bad guy

So happy you did this interview..he’s changing how he doing spoilers and people need to move on and give the guy a second chance.

Good job keeping him on task Ladies! I’m giving you my fancy delicate bravo clap which I reserve for only the most deserving 🥳

I clicked fast than reality streve being canceled 😂😂🤣🤣.

I judged Steve after I saw his girlfriend and how attractive she is(I don't know if they are still together). I thought, 'if looks are so important to him why is he so ugly'? He must see women as objects that have to be sexy to be valuable or interesting. But apparently he doesn't feel that men have to conform to that standard. Ewww I just got to the part where he says he told his now EX about his Demi sex dream. Yeah, I'm sure she thought it was real funny. Good luck to my husband if he wakes up tomorrow and tells me about the hot dream he had about someone else, and that he wants to text her all about it. yikes.

This guy still doesn’t understand nor acknowledge the severity of his actions. Just FYI he himself called out the chatty broads podcast and then people started sending them screenshots from his website. The bald-faced lie he told about not profiting monetarily off of what he did to jade and Jenna bruh go take a look at his website it’s literally flooded with ads. This is just bullshit. He shouldn’t have been a guest if you guys weren’t making excuses for him. Look at how defensive he got when he said that he’s not gonna report on Demi anymore, women speak up and then get punished, she complained about his creepy ass sexual dream and he said "oh well too bad for you I’m not gonna talk about you anymore" completely minimizing that what he did wasn’t normal reporting.

Great interview, Whit! Steve still has a lot to learn, but you gave him enough chances!

Did Reality Steve remove the 2016 stuff after he was called out or before?