Mad respect to Stone for intentionally casting A-list actors as the conspirators in order to make a complicated, yet probable scenario more understandle and easy to follow for a majority of the audience who weren’t acquainted w/ these events.
Underrated quality of this scene: the sound design. Every snap-click-clink of the lighter, Pesci mashing those cigarettes - it gets your nerves tingling. Electric
"They're a wise bunch of birds." - Is a direct metaphor, for the folks he was working for. Man, the layers of cover up relating to the assassination, is uncountable.
David Archer I'm aware of that. This film should in no way be taken at historic face value. If anything, this movie shows how people lack in writing original compelling stories so they either borrow from what works or they take history and spin the facts over with fiction.
Jerry don't waste your time with these disbelievers, coz they are pigs and when you fight pigs you get dirty but they like it. You seem to have done your research (homework) : ), keep up the good work! thank you for the upload
Want the real explanation? These guys were proteges of Mae Brussels who was on Jim Garrisons legal team: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-RTjeU5MGSKs.html A related list: ru-vid.com/group/PLgRoK-eyLjokNbuTECBm-MWhOa0fa0yhV What they dont mention in the movie is Gehlen Organization/Vlasov Army White Russians. Oswald lived in Minsk Belarus. Study and cross refference and you'll realize its true.
Helicopters saw limited use in WW2, but that wasn't what Jim stated. "Grasshopers" www.americanheritagemuseum.org/aircrafts/piper-l4-grasshopper-rosie-the-rocketer
Not helicopters. Grasshoppers. The L-2 airplane. Could do extremely short takeoffs and landings. Used for mostly military liaison and reconnaissance during world war 2.
I haven’t seen the whole movie. But if someone came into my office & told a story like that, I would let them go. Simply because no one lies THAT badly and I would assume it’s some sort of red herring to distract me from the truth. I would be like “The real conspirators found this guy on the street & gave him a hundred bucks to take an obstruction of justice charge to buy them more time to cover up their tracks”
Want the real explanation? These guys were proteges of Mae Brussels who was on Jim Garrisons legal team: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-RTjeU5MGSKs.html A related list: ru-vid.com/group/PLgRoK-eyLjokNbuTECBm-MWhOa0fa0yhV What they dont mention in the movie is Gehlen Organization/Vlasov Army White Russians. Oswald lived in Minsk Belarus. Study and cross refference and you'll realize its true.
Joe Pesci gives a terrific and memorable performance here. But this scene shows you how Oliver Stone manipulates the movie audience into thinking that David Ferrie was part of some vast conspiracy against JFK. In real life, David Ferrie was an oddball character. But he was not part of any conspiracy. First of all, it *has* been established that David Ferrie knew Lee Harvey Oswald. When Oswald was a teenager, he joined the Civil Air Patrol, and David Ferrie was his instructor. There is a photograph from that time period that places them together. However, there is no evidence that Ferrie had any contact with Oswald *after* Oswald left the Civil Air Patrol. There is certainly no evidence that Oswald and Ferrie were ever involved in any conspiracy together. On November 22, 1963, David Ferrie and two of his friends took a road trip from New Orleans to Houston, Texas. Immediately following that trip, Jim Garrison interviewed Ferrie. But Garrison was later able to confirm the details of the Houston trip with Ferrie’s friends. Ferrie and his friends left New Orleans by car early in the morning on November 22. At that time, they didn't know what was going to happen later that day. It was only in the evening, when they turned on their car radio, that they heard what had happened in Dallas. When they got to Houston, David Ferrie and his friends visited an ice skating rink. Why? Because Ferrie had recently received a $7000 settlement from Eastern Airlines, and he was thinking about *buying* the Houston ice rink as a side business. His two friends confirmed that this was the reason for their visit. (Ferrie later decided to use the money to open a service station.) The following day, Ferrie and his friends went out to a marshy area near Galveston that was known as a good spot for goose hunting. But they didn't do any hunting that day, because they hadn't brought any guns with them. Why not? Ferrie and his friends told Garrison that they hadn't brought any guns with them on the trip, because they didn't know if it was legal to transport guns across the TX-LA state border. Also, they weren't sure if their Louisiana hunting licenses were valid in Texas, or if November was an official hunting season in Texas. So why does David Ferrie seem so nervous and unsure of his story in this scene? Because Oliver Stone is manipulating the audience here! In real life, David Ferrie did TWO interviews with Jim Garrison - one in November 1963, just after his Texas trip, and one in 1966, when Garrison was investigating his wacky JFK conspiracy theory. This scene is based on a transcript of the 1966 interview! In that interview, David Ferrie had trouble recalling the details of his 1963 Texas trip, which had taken place *three years before!* But following his earlier 1963 interview with Ferrie, Garrison was able to confirm the details of the Texas trip with Ferrie’s friends. In 1966, Garrison *knew* from his earlier interview that David Ferrie had not been involved in any JFK conspiracy - but he still intended to prosecute him anyway! But then David Ferrie died of a stroke! (It was not a “forced suicide” as depicted in the movie.) Left without a defendant to prosecute, Jim Garrison turned his attention to New Orleans businessman Clay Shaw, whom he hated because Shaw was homosexual. Garrison brought Shaw to trial, knowing that his “Clay Bertrand” case against Shaw was a total crock! Shaw was acquitted, but the trial ruined his life! All so Garrison could justify his phony JFK conspiracy theory. And Oliver Stone later made a movie that perpetuated Garrison’s lie!
It was decades later photos of Ferrie with Oswald emerged. It's on record he said he did not know Oswald, though he obviously must have. It's comically unlikely to die of a stroke in your 40s if you have not had an accident or medical misadventure beforehand.
As I said in my previous post, it has been established that David Ferrie did know Lee Harvey Oswald when they were in the Civil Air Patrol together. The photos that you reference prove that connection between them. It’s no surprise that Ferrie lied to Jim Garrison about knowing Lee Harvey Oswald, given that (1) Ferrie had an arrest record and a well-known history of “sexual deviancy” with young boys, and (2) Garrison was hell-bent on finding a conspiracy in the JFK murder, whether there actually was one or not. If Ferrie had said, “Yes, I once knew Oswald, but I haven’t seen him in years,” Garrison would have refused to believed him. Think about it! If YOU had an arrest record, and it turned out that some teenage kid that you briefly knew years ago had grown up, assassinated the President of the United States, and was now the most hated man in America - wouldn’t YOU lie and claim that you never knew him? I’m guessing you would! It’s important to know that Garrison’s information about Ferrie’s “involvement” in a JFK conspiracy came from Jack Martin (played by Jack Lemmon in the movie). Jack Martin was a drunkard and a well-known pathological liar, who claimed that his former partner, Guy Bannister, was also involved in the JFK plot. But Martin made a bunch of outrageous claims, i.e. that Ferrie had hypnotized Oswald to make him assassinate JFK! Ferrie died in February, 1967, a few weeks before his 49th birthday. The autopsy showed that he died of a brain aneurysm. The coroner’s report said that there was no evidence of foul play, and the only drugs in Ferrie’s system were non-lethal drugs that he took for a thyroid condition. Ferrie was NOT a healthy man when he died. His thyroid condition was what caused all his hair to fall out. He was a hyperactive, paranoid chain smoker. And Garrison was relentlessly harassing him, convinced that Ferrie MUST have been part of some “JFK conspiracy.” With all of this, it's not "comically unlikely" that Ferrie suffered a brain aneurysm. It's noteworthy that GARRISON lied as well. Soon after Ferrie’s death, Garrison claimed that his office was about to charge Ferrie with being part of the alleged “JFK conspiracy.” But attorneys in his office later said that Garrison knew he didn’t have any evidence, and only made this claim AFTER Ferrie died. Garrison even pressured the New Orleans coroner to declare Ferrie’s death a suicide, but the coroner refused! But you’ll probably tell me that Oliver Stone is correct - that the conspirators broke into Ferrie’s house and force-fed him an undetectable poison, in order to silence him! When choosing between a logical explanation and some cockamamie conspiracy theory, gullible fools like you always choose the latter!
@@LTPottenger I have a photo of myself from 1969 at a party with my university friends. One of them became a communist terrorist in 1978 and was implicated in the assassination of President Aldo Moro. I wouldn't even remember his name or his face if I didn't have that photo. For this reason can I be accused of being the accomplice of a terrorist?
@@CaptainTrips560 No he's not. Joe Pesci is giving a great performance, but that's all that is happening. It's a manipulative scene that has nothing to do with real life. David Ferrie was innocent, the victim of an unscrupulous D.A.'s vendetta.
Not really. The evidence is in a myriad of sources, but you have to find them as it is dispersed over many places. There was more then one shooter. That's it.
