I did a deep dive into ReaTune earlier in the year, and there are some interesting things about it. The documentation I've seen seems to suggest that you choose the mode you want to use the tuner for by selecting the tabs, as a tuner, for automatic tuning, or for manual tuning. But, in my experience these are all connected. The window size, overlap, etc in the tuner window all affect how the pitch correction performs. If things aren't working for you, I recommend trying adjustments with those overlap and window settings. Window, I'm pretty sure is the section of time it looks at to determine your pitch, so just be aware that lower notes that take longer than the window time to have a full cycle won't be recognized, and you'll need a larger window. But if the window is too long higher notes the higher notes might drift within the window and I think it has to choose how much to adjust that one window, even if it has varying pitches (i think). Overlap is kind of how it sounds, take a bunch of those windows, and overlap them so the analysis kind of works from previously adjusted windows. If you keep it at 1x, you can experiment with longer window times, and you'll hear the pitch changes step around, because it's just doing 1 window at a time. You can decide what works best for you, but I've typically have run it at 8x, this will add in a bunch of latency, so it can't be used to monitor your performance or in a live situation, but doesn't cause too much of a problem in a studio setting (higher CPU use though, since it's doing 8x the work, but usually not system killing, just print it like Kenny taught if you need to). Since vocals are almost always mono, I make sure the "Stereo Correction" box is unchecked, it's probably optimized to know it's getting a mono signal and to not do the same processing on both L and R channels, but instead of bothering to figure it out, it's just easier to keep it checked off. Always use the elastique 3.3.3 Soloist algorithm as it handles formants properly to avoid chipmunking, and also use it in mono. To be honest, I've moved onto a 3rd party option, but I do think ReaTune is above the "better than nothing" threshold. I really wish the team would take some time to improve the UI with this, and add features to have dynamic settings for your manual corrections. For example letting you choose the strength, attack speed, etc for a given note you put down.
"I really wish the team would take some time to improve the UI" Exactly. That's what bothers me the most! Apart from that poor visual representation, this Utility saved me so many times, like when working on really complex material (for the film), when even the Melodyne failed (though that was about ten years ago). Thank You for the really in-depth comment. Cheers.
@@REAPERMania I think it might be better to use a bad vocal take to demonstrate where ReaTune falls short and some best practice tips. I use the auto-correction when I need very subtle tuning, but I find the manual correction really lacking. Still grateful to have it there, but hope it gets some love in the future.
@@alexanderkhait it's also better to never need to make timing edits, drastic EQ cuts, de-noise, yet here we are on a tutorial page largely for beginners.
We know the drill. !. Kenny posts, 2. We Like 3.We add to Reaper playlist in RU-vid 4.Then watch 5.Someone out there must be working on a SWS script for that .....Thanks again Kenny!
What I really like about ReaTune is that it's very transparent and doesn't completely remove/ruin a good vibrato, as long as you get the attack length just right. However, it also can't do drastic correction without the singer sounding like they suddenly turned into an alien or cyborg mid take. It can make a good performance sound practically perfect, but at the same time make a terrible performance sound like absolute garbage nonsense. If you learn how to get the most out of ReaTune you really don't need to spend money on Melodyne or Auto-Tune Pro. I do wish that Cockos could implement ARA2 functionality in ReaTune sometime in the future though. It would greatly speed up workflow instead of having to play through the whole take to track the pitch.
Dope dope. A lil secret is cleaning up the vocal before hitting the tune plugin. At most I gate, very small subtracive eq clean ups like hpf and removeing any ugly frequencies, and run a desser. It makes a difference in how much tunning is actually needed. But I Def can understand printing it so it's out of the way pc wise. Anyway great video I just wish all vocalist were that close. Today most aren't 😂.
Hi Kenny! First of all, your channel is absolutely fantastic, instructive, and systematic, so I have been free to use it as a primary learning source for practical classes for my university students. Second, the singer in this video is very good, and I think she really does not need any pitch correction. She's so good that even with a 0 ms time window, one can barely notice the plugin's effect. The plugin itself is relatively good, given that it is free. However, I don't like the very dark background, which makes it hard to see anything. When using it, I usually employ both the automatic and manual parts. I think they work together sequentially, although I am not totally sure of it. To me, the Elastique 3.3.3. Soloist algorithm is the best for vocals, with stereo correction disengaged. About the time window selection, I think that the more time the app has to measure the frequency, the better the precision of determining it, thus better the final tuning. (The physicists call that the "Heisenberg principle of uncertainty." 🙂) Then it takes more time to tune in, but the sliding is smoother and void of instabilities that could lead to spurious vibrato. So it is always a trade-off, and one may have to dial it in for each performance (or even use more than one setting for different parts of it). Sometimes, I use this plugin to tune the solo guitar when working with performances with bent notes. I experimented with the speed of tuning, but it should be relatively slow in any case. Believe it or not, it can enhance the level of "emotion" because one can quite subtly affect the speed of sliding into the right pitch.
I have avoided any interaction with ReaTune because I hate the autotune sound bad vocalists get, but you have given some great use ideas! Thanks, Kenny, for continuing my education!!!!
I love ReaTune, a lot of times I can get quicker and better results with it compared to using Melodyne. Plus Melodyne crashes my computer at times and I never have that problem with ReaTune.
Wow! I had no idea that reaper had a built in pitch correction plug-in. Once again thank you Kenny for your brilliant teachings and to Cockos for providing the resources for free 🙏🙏🙏
I rarely use a DAW on my recordings and never have used vocal correction of any kind but it was an interesting video . I'm new to reaper and your videos are excellent . Thanks CAMCURSE
WOW! Where were you all this time? If I knew about this few months ago, I wouldn't have bought the Wave tune. Thanks a bunch for this tutorial. Reaper is indeed awesome. Thanks for this tutorial, I have just manually tuned my vocal.
Thanks Kenny for the video! I find that sometimes the pitch tracking gets “too precise” and you get many artifacts in the red line in Manual mode. I tend to fix this by changing the Window size parameter in the Tuner window to higher values. That gives a smoother line for the pitch detection, what makes the correction easier for me.
@@iainmackenzieUK In the Tunner tab there is a parameter called Window size, in milliseconds. I guess that the plugin averages the detected pitch in this time window.
I would add one thing - if you use the reatune this way, the corrections will be relative to the track so you cannot move the vocal media item otherwise you broke the corrections. The best way for me is to drop the Reatune as FX right onto the mediaitem (you can add FX to the item) so you can move and shuffle the vocal items as you wish.
Such a handy plugin, nice video! It would be nice if you could overlap the correction window with the MIDI grid editing so you can fix against the arrangement.
This actually blew my mind! Granted I've not studied audio post prod as it relates to music production, but damn this is cool! Makes me wonder if there could be a practical application in voiceovers to really tighten up a performance, cos this plugin seems really transparent in its adjustments 🤩🤘🏻
The one existing product that comes to my mind is that iZotope RX has a module called Dialogue Contour, which seems to be marketed toward a voiceover application.
I think that drawing the pitch gives you not a good control of it at all. An approach like in cubase where you can drag the pitch line to the desired pitch gives you so much more control because you can see where the pitch is going. With all the vibrato and slides etc. I wish reaper would do a simlar approach to that plugin.
@@REAPERMania Ah, good news for me, as I don't have AutoTune! ReaTune has gotten the job done for me when needed, but I am going to play around with the settings more sometime and see if I can do even better. Thanks for the video, as always!
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ReaTune is a great tool. It's only drawback, to me, is the lack of grid visibilty/snapping in manual correction mode.
ReaTune uses the same colors as the midi editor, so you can change the colors of the midi editor and it will change automatically.
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@@arthursoghoyan3471 I don't see the point of your anwer. I'm ok with the pitch grid/colors. I talking about horizontal grid visibility/snapping. It would be great to make notes length adjustments easier.
People don’t know that reapitch is most natural and best pitch correction tool available till now, not unnecessary features but great sounding ever tested any daw and software also it melts melodyne u don’t know ❤️❤️😂 Only interface of the whole software and this plugin is not eye catching beautiful, plz improve the interface 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
I don't get the obsession todays producers have with perfection, especially vocal perfection. I believe that the most interesting thing in music is its uniqueness as described by the sound of each singers instrument, not the bland monotony of every note being pitch perfect. And when this perfection of sound is done with digital aids it just adds to the phoniness that pervades pop music today.
Totally agree! Had to switch back and forth a few times to hear both "raw" and "tuned" version. I must say the difference is rather small in general, but the "tuned" one has lost a bit of "life". But anyway - great video to explain a powerful tool! Now it's up to the rest of us to use it - or not.. :)
I get asked about this a lot when working. I guess my answer would be this. Imagine one of the world's great female vocalists, undoubtedly a unique talent, but also reputed to be less than easy to work with and something of a diva. Anyone come to mind? I'm not sayin'! Anyway... She's just laid down the vocal to end all vocals. It's a stunning bit of music; one of the finest female singing performances in history. People in the studio have tears coursing down their cheeks; others are in stunned silence at what they've just heard. It has power, soul, dynamics, melisma... the full gamut of things that you'd perhaps expect the world's greatest female vocal to need. She looks at you and everyone around you. She's steely, determined. She's the world's leading artist; she sells millions a year, and who are you? You're some sound engineer! If you expect to continue to work in this industry at all, you damn well better say and do the right things. Now is your moment. You listen back. It's everything you hoped for, drama, emotion, power, passion -- it might be the finest take of music you've ever heard. And then -- one single, solitary, flat note. Not much -- maybe in the seventies and eighties you'd accept it. But this is the 21st century. Even without knowing it, and whether we like it or not, the listnership at large expects everything to be in tune. You keep listening, again and again, praying to the gods of your future career to "please, please... make that didn't happen..." Meanwhile, Awkward Diva Lady has already got her coat on and is air-kissing her team, thanking them in that special patronising way for being there, "mwah... mwah... oh I'm sooooo glad you could make it..." while in reality she's soaking up the glory. Are you going to be the one to say, "I'm sorry Ms ; I think we might just need to just quickly do a drop in at around 2 minutes 43....". No, you're not. Coz you like your job, you want to keep it, and you're in no way stupid enough to utter such a thing. What do you do instead? You wait for everyone to leave, you fire up ReaTune and you squeeze that naughty flat note up a few cents just as Kenny G describes. You tell no one, you keep working in the industry you love, and your client has a Grammy winning number 1. All good. The serious point I would make is you can't auto-tune charisma or talent into a vocal. You can use it as a special effect, of course, but mostly, it's a studio tool like an EQ or a Compressor. It works best when polishing the already-brilliant -- and usually they're very happy for you to do so! I see it entirely that way. And ReaTune is great for it.
@@siddienam846 "listnership at large expects everything to be in tune" if "listenership at large" means the audience, then only a minority are pitch perfect and if the deviation is as minuscule as "a few cents" the majority won't even notice it
Hi Kenny!!! Thank you for the very useful video, but tell me if there is not such an option that after scanning the vocal by selecting the desired note you pressed the note on the midi keyboard and it became in place, ie corresponded to the note that you pressed on the midi keyboard, it would be very easy to correct the vocal. There is such an option in Vari Audio in Cubase, you just press a note on the midi keyboard and the note will fall into place.
Great video, as usual. Quick question: What happens if you freeze the track and then remove the plugin? Will it go back to the unedited/unfrozen file, or will it keep the frozen version? What if I add that plugin again after deleting it? Will it pick up from the edited version, or will it recognize the track as a new track - after the frozen edits? Also, is there a way to see which tracks are frozen? Thanks and keep up the great work 🙂
Thanks Kenny. I use the auto correction feature quite a bit for ahem, my pitchy voice. Couple questions: (1) What are the settings on the bottom such as elastique and soloist? Sorry I’m not sitting in front of Reaper right now. (2) I split vocal tracks on songs with key changes to separate tracks if I need to auto pitch correct the two. Is that preferred or is there another way? Thanks!
1. Those choose the algorithms to adjust the pitch and stretching. You can try others but the default is usually the best. 2. You could automate the key if you want.
Kenny is Doctor Zeitgeist. Hrm what is everyone wondering? I'll just throw up a 10 minute super clear video that explains everything to click/use and WHY.
At 8:33 the voice sounds a bit glitchy to me after the tuning. Does that mean I want to lengthen the attack time some more? How do you correct that without changing the rest of the vocal take that sounds good with the attack set to 100ms?
I've been looking for a way to tune an audio track to given midi notes (other than vocoding or effortful manual correction by note drawing with ReaTune), but couldn't find any tool/effect/settings. Any ideas?
Kenny, I'm a fan. I use your vocal riding method and your vocal time alignment method. What do you reckon would be the best order for a full vocal treatment, with all three steps, including this Reatune processing?
Hi! Do you offer any consulting services for people using Reaper? I've just bought and downloaded Reaper and am having lots of problems, however the company isn't responding to ANY of my emails. Maybe they're out of business? I just need some help. Let me know. And thank you for the helpful videos!
I wish there was an option to change the dark gray background to white or some lighter color. This dark gray background with the red and blue lines makes the work very difficult.
"people in therapy are often (blank) with people in their lives that wont go to therapy..." is this a jingle for better help? how fulfilling is this job if you need therapy? 😂🍻
Gli strumenti di reaper sono ottimi ma l'interfaccia grafica è la cosa peggiore (uso reaper da 10 anni). In modalità Manuale è assurdo uno sfondo grigio con una linea blu poco visibile per definire le correzioni. Passa la voglia di utilizzarlo. Stessa sorte per altri effetti stock che vanno molto bene ma non hanno buona interfaccia grafica che renda comodo l'utilizzo.
