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Rebuilding An Altec Studio Monitor For The First Time 

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Want more? Here's a different edit of this video that is 3 times as long! • Altec 604-8G Rebuild E...
In this video, I completely rebuild an Altec 604-8G Studio Monitor with new parts from simplyspeakers.com. Full disclosure: I make some mistakes in this video. If you're looking for a better rebuild guide for a DIY project, watch the extended edit version. I highly recommend you also watch this video from the Simply Speakers RU-vid channel: • JBL Speaker Repair and...
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@stevemarch5463
@stevemarch5463 Год назад
I like the fact that you’re willing to show the screw ups as well. I think everyone that tinkers likes to see how to get around and fix our screw ups as well as what goes well. Sometimes we learn more from that.
@tuady2958
@tuady2958 Год назад
0p
@reinkansman1081
@reinkansman1081 Год назад
That looked extremely tedious, I am glad you enjoy it and have the patience to see it through. Your customers appreciate it I am sure. Best line, "not now Sadie!"
@Silent-Lucidity
@Silent-Lucidity Год назад
Those are some serious speakers! It was brave of you to use those as your first rebuild, but if you're gonna go, go big! Cheers, sir! Nice job!
@billdang3953
@billdang3953 Год назад
Serious and classic speaker drivers, these demand a top notch amplifier and program material.
@terrym1065
@terrym1065 Год назад
AH👍👍 Most people wouldn't even attempt this type restoration, very involved and delicate work without the proper alignment tools the factory has. They have it easy but you not so much, your determination and dedication warrants praise. Thanks for the great video and patience to see the job through, well done. Enjoy!
@FingerinUrDaughter
@FingerinUrDaughter Год назад
it would have been much simpler if the guy had half a brain, and removed the magnet assembly from the basket via the screws on the magnet, and then took a wire brush to it for cleaning instead of a razor blade like a moron. and cleaning the magnet gaps should have been with compressed air, as all a piece of paper is doing is pushing anything in there down further in.
@quad1000
@quad1000 Год назад
Simply Speakers has great customer service to boot! A+ company.
@MichaelYates
@MichaelYates Год назад
Very nice rebuild, they sound quite nice on the track you played. Good Work as always
@FredCDobbs151
@FredCDobbs151 Год назад
Interesting results using the shims. I have never trusted them in any of my rebuilds and have only ever used active alignment. Great recovery!
@eiddie4108
@eiddie4108 Год назад
Love the channel and work you put into this vintage gear!!!
@benlopez4788
@benlopez4788 Год назад
Props to you for doing a speaker repair for first time. I use a cd with different frequencies to do the alignment and to let it self center. Once again props to you.
@petenamlook18
@petenamlook18 Год назад
These speakers are worthy of a custom cabinet build. You could certainly make them taller an narrower to have better driver height while still maintaining cabinet volume.
@leukostad1592
@leukostad1592 Год назад
Congratulations on the repair, I think those are some good loudspeakers!
@collinwood60
@collinwood60 Год назад
Nice job Aiden! I have replaced the foam covering a woofer on a few pairs of Advent speakers before, but have never tackled what appears to be a complete rebuild. As always thanks for making and sharing these videos. Go Sadie!!
@wayman10
@wayman10 Год назад
Very interesting rebuild. The sound is very clear and detail through my headphones. I hear good amount of bass.
@mikemix1361
@mikemix1361 Год назад
Nice stereo. Good job rebuilding the speaker. I've tried to rebuild a speaker but no dice.
@donaldchamble6897
@donaldchamble6897 Год назад
I must say that you are amazing I love the way you educate us and the audio community thank you for your time and help.
@ReferenceFidelityComponents
Good job for your first try. I’ve rebuilt many Tannoy drive units now and it takes practice before confidence is built up. It pays never to rush centring a voicecoil so I was surprised you rushed ahead with assembly after realising it was out, but you’ve learned for next time. Neat work though so well done.
@noahbrock5350
@noahbrock5350 Год назад
Definitely try them with some tubes. Altecs pair really, really well with tubes.
@tlister67
@tlister67 11 месяцев назад
I had some old advents that had a rub and I flipped the woofer 180 after refoaming. That might be why they worked better installed. Fastening them might also have straightened the cage into alignment.
@bobsmoot8454
@bobsmoot8454 Год назад
I’m surprised you didn’t contact Great Plains Audio, in that they bought all the stock, jigs, and manufacturing tooling from Altec - they are the only ones who can and do remanufacture correct factory parts for Altec speakers. I appreciate you showing how you rebuilt your Altec 604, a great speaker.
@AHFixIt
@AHFixIt Год назад
I did reach out to them. No reply.
@bobsmoot8454
@bobsmoot8454 Год назад
@@AHFixIt I’m kind of shocked - Bill has always responded , maybe not immediately but he always returned my calls, thank the Lord!
@AHFixIt
@AHFixIt Год назад
It's probably because I asked for free parts 🤣
@bobsmoot8454
@bobsmoot8454 Год назад
@@AHFixIt yeah, I can totally understand Bill not responding, he has priced their products with very low OH/P markup to help us music nuts out. My personal opinion is their products, both parts and full units, are beyond reproach in quality and price, the BEST DEAL in audio. I subscribed to your channel based on your willingness to undertake the reckoning of a very expensive piece of audio history, the Altec 604
@rickg8015
@rickg8015 Год назад
@@bobsmoot8454 yeah, a missed opportunity.. Bill also gives solid advice when restoring stuff..
@jimthvac100
@jimthvac100 Год назад
If these speakers are forward sounding even with other amplifiers then It may need the crossover reworked to provide a more flat response at the listening levels you mostly enjoy.
@jimcabezola3051
@jimcabezola3051 Год назад
Wow! I admire your persistence! I wonder, though… You found the scraping sound when you tested the speaker…post reassembly…when it was facing upwards. Would testing it mounted in the cabinet with the speaker pointing horizontally…as in normal use…have masked the scraping problem? I really enjoy all your vintage electronics videos, and I hope you’ll make more. Aloha!
@AHFixIt
@AHFixIt Год назад
I did try that and it still made noise. Plenty more videos coming!
@AllboroLCD
@AllboroLCD Год назад
Theres outfitters that sell "pre-fab" insert, glue n go re-cone kits for these bad boys. You erred with the adhesive on the surrounds. You want the clear type loctite, it allows you to adjust the centering with just a little heat applied. You cant be faulted and this is a great first attempt trust me! My first few tries were incredibly sloppy with the adhesives. Give er another go and youll get it man!
@leetingler619
@leetingler619 Год назад
I used to mix on 604E monitors.a very nice speaker. Great sound 👌 I would of waited to replace the horn diaphragm just to be sure no debrea.
@timothykresko1984
@timothykresko1984 Год назад
It’s not an amplifier problem it’s a compression driver problem. These are not a good choice for rocking out without scooping 2-4khz with an EQ. I’ve owned many pair, from the OG RWB 604 in 605 cabs to Es in 612 cabinets. They all do this. Power was everything from 300b-Threshold. They just bark when you gas them. I love them at low to med low volumes.
@cletusberkeley9441
@cletusberkeley9441 Год назад
Those are rare and wonderful. Had a pair in the late 80s, I built the Altec spec enclosures for them too .....unfortunately they got stolen!😢
@tuckermichael24
@tuckermichael24 Год назад
Thanks Aiden for the video. Very interesting as all you're videos are entertaining indeed.
@dougg1075
@dougg1075 Год назад
I love projects like this. Nice
@chylimzbydzi
@chylimzbydzi Год назад
Nicely done, fantastic speakers!
@TheMazo02
@TheMazo02 Год назад
You should get some turntable for perfect looking dampening layer on the surround....
@jeffstockton534
@jeffstockton534 Год назад
Call that AH-fixed! Your lady must love those in the living room.
@vortexan9804
@vortexan9804 Год назад
Wow, you never recone without shimming the coil, didn't it come with instructions?. I shim when just putting on new foam surrounds!. Always centered in the gap.
@rodericbest7667
@rodericbest7667 Год назад
I had this issue w/ a jbl 2225 reconed it twice at AST Sounds West B-way Mhttn NY. Turns out the pole piece & magnet were out of line. So they gave me a new woofer.
@morayjames92
@morayjames92 Год назад
glad you had a good experience but I believe that having Great Plains Audio rebuild your Altec speakers would have been a much better option as they can remag your magnets insuring they match and recone them to as new as no other company can do with genuine Altec parts. Expensive to do yes but the best way to insure the greatest return in your investment and to make sure your 604 continue to impress over the next 50 years.
@lenbeedle
@lenbeedle Год назад
Lesson learned. Always tune your surround with test frequencies before the glue sets up.
@miguel--rush
@miguel--rush 9 месяцев назад
Excelente trabajo estimado. Gracias por compartir..!
@johndrx165
@johndrx165 Год назад
Quite a task and great end result!
@sudha4128
@sudha4128 Год назад
I have a pair, got them free, thank God I have no problems!
@AvnerRosenstein-ULTRA-LXV
@AvnerRosenstein-ULTRA-LXV 11 месяцев назад
Every time I see a video about Altec Speakers I get sad. They made some of the most top notch speakers ever made...especially for Guitar amps like 417 models. Somebody needs to do a professional video explaining what exactly happened with Altec making quality speakers for monitors and guitar amps....like an actual documentary. Great Plains Audio claims they are the direct descendant company of that branch of Altec but they're stuff is ridiculously priced. Great video bringing an Altec back to life!
@briangoldberg4439
@briangoldberg4439 Год назад
usually when i do this, i do the "pump test" before i take out the shims. moving it up and down will help center the spider and then the cone around the groove the voice coil travels in rather than the outer ring (which are usually not perfectly concentric. i screwed up a couple cones before i started doing that. i think everyone pooches their first rebuild in some way
@AHFixIt
@AHFixIt Год назад
I wanted to do that but the magnet gap on these speakers is so small that the shim held it too tight to allow easy movement. Check out the extended edit if you're curious, I show a lot more in there. If I were to try this again I'd try to find a thinner material to use as a centering shim and maybe that would help.
@briangoldberg4439
@briangoldberg4439 Год назад
@@AHFixIt Right on. I've never had the kit come with the shim material actually. What I usually do is cut some plastic from the cylindrical part of coke bottle (or similar). you can find different thicknesses that way and get something that is a bit free
@socksumi
@socksumi 10 месяцев назад
The 604 sounds a little crude but it's also very efficient. The Model 19 was a serious attempt by Altec to refine their their earlier stuff like the 604 and A7 VOTT. Altec voiced the Model 19 extraordinarily well eliminating the peaks and dips of other Altec speakers. Combining a complex well thought out crossover and their brilliant 'tangerine plug' they smoothed out the response from the big horn and substantially improved it's dispersion and uniformity of sound. They sacrificed a bit of efficiency but what a speaker. The Model 19 may be Altec's best design ever. Ruler flat in response yet resolving, efficient and dynamic. No other Altec, (especially the A7 VOTT) measured as well or sounded anywhere near as accurate, uncoloured, refined and precise as the Model 19.
@rc52
@rc52 Год назад
Wow, had similar size Altec Lansing speaker's (with a 10-12 inch woofer?) and a 5 inch midrange/tweeter? Al I did was replaced the wires inside & the capacitor's . The bass response on those speaker's would rattle my window's (not my intentions), that's how powerful they were! I still have the tweeter's by the way that weigh like a pound each?
@mariocesarbugs9777
@mariocesarbugs9777 Час назад
Cara, tu é muito relaxado fazendo pra demonstração.Imagina qdo faz pro cliente sem filmar. Credo!
@hksunchaser1
@hksunchaser1 6 месяцев назад
good job and a tube amp will make it perfect!
@hippydippy
@hippydippy Год назад
Sweet! you need to try them with a tube amp. That would be way cool.
@hoobsgroove
@hoobsgroove Год назад
The plates can shift to the basket should have been unscrewed it then shim it in there and then screw it back with some blue loctite it's probably been dropped Plus you gotta cleaned up the gap with some wet and dry 800 grit paper and the magnet chamber area could have been clean properly always use compressed air as well
@D2112-o8f
@D2112-o8f 10 месяцев назад
i have similar speakers i removed driver for cabinet refinishing. when i reinstalled it had woofer rubbing because the basket bends if u dont screw in with equal pressure
@michaelcates5339
@michaelcates5339 Год назад
You should buy yourself a manual screw impact tool for removing those stubborn flat drive screws. $10 at harbor freight. FYI only way you can take the screws out of old Honda motorcycle motors. You should also put an appropriate glass fuse in-line to the tweeter in order to keep from burning up the tweeter.
@donaldchamble6897
@donaldchamble6897 Год назад
Dear Sir do you have a scheduled date for your project video during the weekday or weekend.
@セイちゃん-y8f
@セイちゃん-y8f 7 месяцев назад
この時代では、ウエスタンエレクトリの規格で日本音響電気株式会社(旧マクソニック)で15インチのフィールドコイル型の同軸スピーカーを制作しました。 コーン紙はアルティクの604-8Gと同じハーレー社製。 フィールドコイル型のクオリティが高く抜けの良い音質はアルティクの604-8Gよりも優れていましたよ。
@rbrand44
@rbrand44 Год назад
wow, great. regret trading my Altec 604s for JBL 4313. though I also have 4333b now too. but still miss my old 604's
@ralphups7782
@ralphups7782 Год назад
the paper part of a speaker, over here in england uk we call it the Cone.
@donnieray746
@donnieray746 Месяц назад
New speaker surrounds can be totally different from original. Original were designed for a moment in and out on the voice coil that may differ from new
@blueovalOdell
@blueovalOdell Год назад
Wow. Sounds pretty good
@charliewilliams9811
@charliewilliams9811 Год назад
Run the tones as you position the diaphragm.
@azoique
@azoique Год назад
Sounds great. Good job.
@sudha4128
@sudha4128 Год назад
Great job!
@davidbramley6730
@davidbramley6730 Год назад
Try a pair of retro Lentek Monitors. Filing cabinet size transmission line. I got a pair of minters. Dave Uk
@vortexan9804
@vortexan9804 Год назад
Those black caps are crap electrolytics. Glad you replaced them. Also, much easier to pull a knife under the gasket than push.
@fabieneldridge3414
@fabieneldridge3414 Год назад
I really like you young man. If you owned a pair of La Scalla’s then you are screwed because those Altec won’t hunt with the big Klipsch. I run k- horns with a set of Belle’s together ! A Marantz 2325 that needs restored . You remind me of my 25 year old Son. He does cars and motorcycles. He is finishing a 1980 900cb , 10 speed for me to start riding. He has it rocking, they are painting it. I’m close to riding but it’s still cold here. Not all of you are WOKE ! The Truth is I live in a small town in Tennessee and we don’t do WOKE , at least I haven’t seen it or heard of any. My kids are 21 to my step daughter 34. But even around they I see good kids like you. Now my youngest daughter has a few freaks for friends but she knows better. And doesn’t believe in it either. We need more like all of you. WY to go young man . Your very talented and will do fine. Keep Rocking your Marantz ! The Sansui is nice had one in high school and it was impressive.
@tombrennan6312
@tombrennan6312 Год назад
I think LaScalas sound like Skilsaws. I owned 2 pair as a young horny, Cornwalls too, before I moved on to Altecs which I think have far better tone. Started with 605s, later Model 19s, A7-500 VOTs and A5 VOTs.
@jimdickinson3686
@jimdickinson3686 5 месяцев назад
@@tombrennan6312 Klipsch's are made with cheap mass produced parts, un like the ALTEC's which are much higher tolerances. you can hear it the Altec's have much higher details in performance, The bass horn in the La Scalla, is much too small to go too low, unlike the K horn which is limited by how big the room is. Put an ALTEC 416 in a Khorn, use a damped 511 with a Universality LD 60 for the Mids, anda ab a Eminence APT 150 for the highs, with custom crossover, and you'll have something that will blow away the K Horn.
@protekprotek4207
@protekprotek4207 4 месяца назад
Hi, the cost for one speaker kit please, Thanks 🙏
@blightborn87
@blightborn87 11 месяцев назад
When using the shim. You should cut its length so it does not overlap. That was where you screwed up.
@noahbrock5350
@noahbrock5350 Год назад
Austin Healeys, Pioneer receivers, and Altec speakers? Are you me?
@datdudeinred
@datdudeinred 9 месяцев назад
I just don't understand when you already noticed the noise way before gluing the outer stuff why you didn't just fix the coil.
@780hardcore
@780hardcore Год назад
What was it that you spread on the outer edge of the cone? At about 10:25
@rickg8015
@rickg8015 Год назад
You should invest in a good small “work turntable” to evenly “center” stuff.. But you really have steady hands for this type of work.. You just rushed in with the job too fast in your excitement😅.. The hardest part for me is installing the Aluminum Phragms, it’s not as simple to do with vintage Drivers.. I hope you at least used Dayton Poyprop caps and not Mylar caps (for both L and R crossovers..).. And yes, sturdy lowish Pedestals are needed for your ported 604 Monitors… Your electronics might also have too much gain that’s why it sounds harsh in louder volumes..
@greenlanternseven
@greenlanternseven Год назад
Nothing gets past you Gregory. ...lol but thanks for sticking up for the kid lol you is either Astra Mollech or BAAL lmfao
@gregorybond2859
@gregorybond2859 Год назад
😉
@BobbyG77
@BobbyG77 Год назад
youre crazy awesome dude!
@TheJediJoker
@TheJediJoker Год назад
I would guess that these were designed to be soffit-mounted, so they may not sound as-intended unless mounted on an "infinite" baffle, be it a real or false wall.
@BadUncleIke
@BadUncleIke Год назад
Good job.
@margix1172
@margix1172 Год назад
It's incredible how so called "vintage" equipment is much better both aesthetically and sonically than lots of so called "modern" crap.
@bobsmoot8454
@bobsmoot8454 Год назад
I have to admit, it was brave of you to undertake this project, and to admit your initial attempt was not successful. Might want to investigate alternative crossover designs available on the net that can help tame the midrange to upper midrange
@andrewstewart8704
@andrewstewart8704 Год назад
It's funny how you aligned the surround while a signal was on the second time, That's the only way I've ever done it
@yeahnewman
@yeahnewman Год назад
I don't think you need that other sub anymore! Haha Wouldn't you want to redo the other ones to keep the hours the same?
@myturkishlife1777
@myturkishlife1777 Год назад
That was a great video 😁👍
@donnieray746
@donnieray746 Месяц назад
The outer noise was coming from over extending the voice coil outward
@williamsarver2491
@williamsarver2491 Год назад
Nice job
@tonys623
@tonys623 Год назад
Glue cone to the coil 1st and let dry. Then glue cone to the frame. Never both at the same time.
@gw4pjq
@gw4pjq Год назад
The problem is you didn't centre the speaker at all, didn't they supply three centering shims. While I was watching you I was shouting at the monitor lol. Also you shouldn't have glued the dustcap to the horn just to the cone. I ve rebuilt many of these drivers. Just enjoy the fruits of your labour.
@Brendalo1
@Brendalo1 Год назад
small vacuum during dis & re assembly?,
@cuoops
@cuoops Год назад
Great video
@mattmoreira210
@mattmoreira210 Год назад
"I think I screwed up" _[continues reconing the speaker]_
@mikedisher30
@mikedisher30 Год назад
I love your cat so dam cute 😂
@WelkySchullin
@WelkySchullin Год назад
great job a and some luck cheers
@paulnichols2233
@paulnichols2233 Год назад
Great like shop class
@greenlanternseven
@greenlanternseven Год назад
Dear Gregory : Not a jerk just telling it like it is you have to do the research before waisting your time and money...Mike Holmes motto " Do it right the first time " lol have a nice day
@gregorybond2859
@gregorybond2859 Год назад
I guess you can tell it like it is and also "Come off like a jerk" lol have a great day!
@johnmorris1266
@johnmorris1266 Год назад
You should have cut the shim and ran them down from the top, not circular with overlap.
@6-Iron
@6-Iron Год назад
Denatured alcohol will save you a lot of time.
@ИванП-ъ2ю
@ИванП-ъ2ю Год назад
Так вот что значит сделано на коленке
@artysanmobile
@artysanmobile Год назад
I have four 604 drivers, two 604E and two 604G in UREI 811A speaker systems. All HF are new and fine. All LF are rubbing or have surround deterioration. I am selling all and need a skilled recone tech in Fort Lauderdale area. If anyone reads this and can make a referral, I’d appreciate a response.
@robertmailhos8159
@robertmailhos8159 Год назад
Now you can get your boom boom on nothing like that great bass sound
@waynepollard6879
@waynepollard6879 Год назад
Bad job ! You need to start over !
@thomasschafer7268
@thomasschafer7268 4 дня назад
😅😅😅im Traum würde mir nicht einfallen das auf dem Fußboden zu machen. No nichts versaut im Leben. Was?
@greenlanternseven
@greenlanternseven Год назад
Using the tone geneator at 50 hrtz after using the glue for surrounds and letting cure for two minutes it will self adjust....perfect alignment nice try though lol it sucks when ya don't do enough research hee hee p.s when are ya gonna let me buy those Alters?
@gregorybond2859
@gregorybond2859 Год назад
nice try though lol Sucks when ya are a jerk!
@jeffdamakedaddy
@jeffdamakedaddy Год назад
Check the capacitors on the untouched speaker to be on the safe side.
@dungbongcuoi9026
@dungbongcuoi9026 Год назад
Where are you from
@trumps-not-rightfor-us5603
@trumps-not-rightfor-us5603 Год назад
I BROUGHT A PAIR OF I'LL TAKE LANSING MODEL ONES WAY BACK IN 1975 WHEN THEY WERE NEW OH MAN THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL BOOM BOOM BOOM LISTENING TO THE ALAN PARSONS PROJECT TALES OF MYSTERY AND IMAGINATION THROUGH A PAIR OF THOSE IS A DREAM THEY MAKE A SMALL ROOM FEEL LARGE I'LL CHECK LANSING IS PRETTY COOL AND IT'S DAY BUT NOT ANYMORE THEY'RE MUCH BETTER MORE SONICALLY PERFORMING SOME OF WHICH REMODELED ON THE ALTEC LANSINGS
@aarongunter5582
@aarongunter5582 Год назад
Good job
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