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NOTE FROM TED: Do not look to this talk for medical or mental health advice. There are significant health risks with the substances discussed in this talk. Experiments discussed in this talk should not be performed outside of accredited research settings. This talk only represents the speaker's views and understanding of psychedelics and addiction. We've flagged this talk because it falls outside the content guidelines TED gives TEDx organizers. TEDx events are independently organized by volunteers. The guidelines we give TEDx organizers are described in more detail here: storage.ted.com...
This talk was given at a local TEDx event, produced independently of the TED Conferences. Robert Rhatigan struggled with alcoholism for over ten years. When numerous attempts to overcome addiction through will-power and conventional treatment failed, he traveled to the Peruvian Amazon for treatment from local shamans. After four challenging ceremonies with a purgative, psychedelic plant medicine his desire for alcohol dissolved and a quest to understand his transformation began.
A New York City native, Rhatigan is a Research Scientist with the Geospatial and Population Studies Department at the University of New Mexico. He holds a Master's Degree in Applied Geography from the University of Colorado and a Bachelor's in Environmental Science from the State University of New York. After starting a career on Wall Street, Robert helped build a successful tech start-up, worked as an environmental consultant, published non-fiction writing and delivered mail for the US Postal Service. Sober and craving free for over four years, he still contends with an incurable case of wanderlust.
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@flukeseawalker
@flukeseawalker 4 года назад
I have consumed psilocybin mushrooms for my headaches, depression, alcohol addiction. Today, nearly two years after my first dose, Pennsylvania has one less depressed alcoholic citizen. But now the State wants to Punish me for becoming a better Human Being.
@completelytransparent6320
@completelytransparent6320 2 года назад
tell me more. got caught with some mushrooms? how are you doing today buddy?
@ramonajungwirth8520
@ramonajungwirth8520 5 лет назад
My wife took my three children away from me because I was an abusive alcoholic. It’s been the most difficult time of my life, but I did it. That’s how I quit.
@jonnycash8276
@jonnycash8276 2 года назад
Can you give us a update?
@Mija04.24
@Mija04.24 6 месяцев назад
Sometimes it takes extreme consequences to wake us up to getting help. I’m proud of her. That could not have been an easy decision for your wife or your children. I would love an update on your story judging by the last sentence you wrote I’m assuming it’s a good ending.
@He1boy
@He1boy 9 лет назад
Bravo! Humans have the RIGHT as denizens of our Great Mother Earth to any plants or substances she produces for their use. No prescription, no permission, no "authority" to tell them they can. We have a right and anyone standing in the way of that right is a criminal.
@justinhoffman429
@justinhoffman429 3 года назад
I took Ibogaine 8 years ago and after 30 rehabs, 10 years of AA, therapy and of course medications, I was finally free. I haven't even had a craving since. AA members preach that anything "mind altering" will cause a relapse. They are absolutely clueless and should learn what LSD did for Bill W. I attend AA, but for connection. I dont believe its anything but a nice social club to share your experience with others. As for therapy? It isn't, and I dont know why every rehab in America tells you that its either AA or jail, institutions or death. Theres plenty of other options. The steps are a nice little antiquated tool for recovery, that might help some.. The truth is they do nothing for trauma and anxiety disorders which are usually at the root of "why"
@jacobfide1306
@jacobfide1306 3 года назад
You’re not working the steps properly if they don’t help you with trauma. And once you’ve identified the root problem with a therapist the 12 steps will help u in that arena as well
@justinhoffman429
@justinhoffman429 3 года назад
Jacob, it’s time for AA to be replaced with a program that’s embracing modern psychology a book from 1939 that leans heavy on misogyny, isn’t what this generation wants to be reading as an answer to their problems. AA is going the way of the dinosaur
@jacobfide1306
@jacobfide1306 3 года назад
@@justinhoffman429 how is AA misogynistic??😂 but I agree it needs to incorporate modern psychology. That’s why rehabs exist as well as therapy and sponsors in the program. If u went to a meeting you’d see the “modern psychology”
@markdellacqua1038
@markdellacqua1038 2 месяца назад
LSD did nothing for Bill Wilson. The numerous clinical trials over the decades with LSD have had no success in dealing with the root cause of addiction: self-centeredness. You can't renew your mind and change the heart with drugs. There's nothing new under the sun.
@markdellacqua1038
@markdellacqua1038 2 месяца назад
@@jacobfide1306 Which is why the recovery rate for alcoholics is nothing like it was in the early days of AA. Pop psychology has watered the AA message in most meetings.
@whosthatgirl69
@whosthatgirl69 9 лет назад
There are many different paths to recovery. What works for one person may not work for others. We need to have an open mind and allow people to find their own path to recovery
@nemesisbreakz
@nemesisbreakz 6 лет назад
whosthatgirl69 I believe we need prohibition.
@davidw.5384
@davidw.5384 6 лет назад
As with anything else in this country, if there is a huge financial machine opposing it, the end result will be failure. Alcohol is arguably one hundred fold more dangerous than marijuana, yet due to the tremendous economic impact on society, alcohol remains, and most likely will remain, legal. I am glad this man discovered something that works for him. Hopefully his zeal for its potential will help others.
@kendrabennett5041
@kendrabennett5041 6 лет назад
whosthatgirl69 true because the reasons are all different, some are lonely some are drinking their pai. or feelings etc. I'm 26 and have been a sometimes binge drinker on and off since 14, I'm currently in the process of quitting!
@randyring1251
@randyring1251 6 лет назад
I like that comment
@kalkiluvslakshmi6532
@kalkiluvslakshmi6532 6 лет назад
wtf is wrong with u
@goddog47
@goddog47 7 лет назад
I'm on my own path to recovery.....I need to be healthy and organised for the rest of life, I've done the alcohol and drug thing but it doesn't bring me any lasting happiness or wellbeing. Feels great to finally let go of my addiction!
6 лет назад
"After 4 ceremonies in the jungle with a non toxic non addictive psychoactive subtance that is illegal to possess or prescribe in the United States, my relationship with a deadly addictive legal drug was OVER."
@karl532
@karl532 2 года назад
Not only is alcohol deadly and addictive and legal but it is the worst drug of them all. It addicts more people than any other drug, it kills more people directly and indirectly than any other drug and it's the only drug that can kill you during the withdrawal phase, other than benzodiazepines. Which coincidentally is the drug they will temporarily prescribe to you too help you go through the withdrawal phase from alcohol.
@jhixofficial7634
@jhixofficial7634 2 года назад
I'm at this point. Starting to trip on around 600 ug at work. I'll dose 3 hours prior my shift so i can ride the come up and peaking at work just makes everything easier for me. Yeah I had drinks when I got home but I'm able to cut myself off and want a good healthy meal and water annnd cannabis
@dickfitswell3437
@dickfitswell3437 Год назад
Huh? What are y'all talking about. 600ug? DMT
@kaptajnsejersen6303
@kaptajnsejersen6303 4 года назад
The tools and people from AA made it possible for me to stay away from the bottle. Psychedelic mushrooms healed the root-problem of my drinking. Anxiety!
@prasert85
@prasert85 9 лет назад
I want to try it!! I watched a programme where people with terminal disease, who were afraid of death, took this psychedelic in the amazon. And ALL were no longer afraid of their appending death. I find it incredible. I am a chronic alcoholic and am terrified of death so I may be on a plane to the amazon soon. The only thing that concerns me is that I suffer with panic attacks and would be scared the drug would induce one that lasted hours.
@CaptianKeyz
@CaptianKeyz 8 лет назад
+prasert85 I would recommend smoked DMT. It's effects last about 15 minutes. Eating it with a MAOI will last for hours. You still may need more sessions because of the trade off of the short duration. At least, smoking it won't make you sick like eating it will often do. I think it might be a better place to start, to better address your concerns. Other psychedelics can have the same effect of "change" you are looking for, as well.
@Kormac80
@Kormac80 8 лет назад
+CaptianKeyz That's a terrible suggestion. You should not be in the business of making suggestions when you obviously don't know what you're talking about. As someone who has engaged deeply with the medicine in its appropriate context and form (drinking tea in ceremony) I am very familiar with the facts. My closest friend of 30 years is a shaman with this plant medicine and anyone who knows about it knows that smoking DMT is nothing like engaging in ceremony. Isolating a chemical compound and ingesting it is NOT the same thing. And it is not the curative and purgative of ayahuasca.
@debbiehorn4221
@debbiehorn4221 8 лет назад
+prasert85 I'm ready to try it also. Time to step out. :)
@Lazarett
@Lazarett 7 лет назад
prasert85 When I'll die , I'll be in orbit somewhere , alone ... all alone .
@seamusdebuitleir20
@seamusdebuitleir20 6 лет назад
Hope you found recovery,try Thamkrabok in Thailand if you havent yet got sober,wish you well.
@gaiasgrowinggarden8603
@gaiasgrowinggarden8603 5 лет назад
3 years sober today! New life here I come!!!
@caesar349
@caesar349 4 года назад
Excellent!! Hope all is well
@milescarr8524
@milescarr8524 3 года назад
You got this!
@ravindrasinghkushwaha1803
@ravindrasinghkushwaha1803 3 года назад
What was the experience of first month of recovery
@stilesdiego8531
@stilesdiego8531 3 года назад
Check out mycodext on Instagram for some Healing psychedelics products. He got quality shrooms, lsd, dmt and others. He's discreet and very reliable.
@jags3352
@jags3352 2 года назад
His presentation skills are very good!!
@stephenransley9377
@stephenransley9377 Год назад
well done and it's bad how they treat this medicine the world needs it now
@FrankEmmanuel799
@FrankEmmanuel799 Год назад
I’d appreciate your comment
@FrankEmmanuel799
@FrankEmmanuel799 Год назад
I got some from an online supplier
@FrankEmmanuel799
@FrankEmmanuel799 Год назад
FROM TRIPWITH_JEFF
@FrankEmmanuel799
@FrankEmmanuel799 Год назад
in instagram
@katiefaint9228
@katiefaint9228 8 лет назад
This brings up a lot of very interesting topic for which much debate could occur. The sad part is the pharmaceutical companies would most likely bring about horrific hurdles as they line the pockets of the majority of politicians everywhere. I have dealt with alcoholism for 12 years and I have currently been sober for 32 months. It took a 16 month prison sentence for me to get over my own denial. I would not wish that upon anyone. However, now I am actually in school and my major is Psychology, my intentions later down the road, are to become a substance abuse counselor. I do hope that in the future we can make progress in shifting addiction treatment away from the prison systems which is where most addicts/ alcoholics end up assuming they do not first die or find recovery on their own. Even then, through prison systems there is still a revolving door. It is really sad. With the heroin epidemic which is impeding upon the world, I do hope that research efforts will progress and lead to better recovery options for those who will be needing it.
@seamusdebuitleir20
@seamusdebuitleir20 6 лет назад
Hi Katie,a question are you still sober? I mean free from all drugs legal and illegal and chemical straight jacket? Cheers!
@goskateboarding1412
@goskateboarding1412 Год назад
Psychedelics encourage neurogenesis - the growth of new brain cells, as well as neuroplasticity - the brain’s ability to modify/change/adapt. If you are looking for a savior, get up and find a mirror, you can do this. Be well.
@teacherrobin3192
@teacherrobin3192 6 лет назад
Excellent talk! Yes ... to shift right into heart and more and to stay there.
@keeza333
@keeza333 6 лет назад
great wish the world were open to this working on trying to win my battle.
@carljarvi2914
@carljarvi2914 10 лет назад
thanks for sharing ..
@erinnortonlovely
@erinnortonlovely 10 лет назад
thanks for sharing....
@maestrofathom8524
@maestrofathom8524 4 года назад
13 months clean and sober
@tmiexcursion
@tmiexcursion 7 лет назад
Bill Wilson's "spiritual experience" was a psychedelic compound in the belladonna/brugmansia family
@garyratoff8080
@garyratoff8080 7 лет назад
tmiexcursion was that about the time he started channeling entities from dimensions beyond this one and penned the so called Big Book in a matter of days ? 😉
@garyratoff8080
@garyratoff8080 7 лет назад
tmiexcursion don't want to be messing with the devils trumpet ... trust me on that ... it's a deliriant not a true psychedelic and has the potential to not only kill you and blind you but potentially Drive you permanently ... loco !
@tmiexcursion
@tmiexcursion 7 лет назад
Know someone who tried and does not recommend it. A true dissociative. BTW, brugmansia, not jimsonweed, is Don Juan Matus' datura. You can also read about it in McKenna's "True Hallucinations."
@ryanhughes2459
@ryanhughes2459 5 лет назад
Bill Wilson wanted a 13th step...LSD
@AyaSkye0
@AyaSkye0 3 года назад
“Distilled Spirits” on Kindle. Excellent read. DOS: 4-1984.
@fabulouswoman5068
@fabulouswoman5068 7 лет назад
DMT worked for me in my addiction even though that is not why I took it.
@chicodaboi174
@chicodaboi174 3 года назад
What addiction did DMT cure you from?
@markdellacqua1038
@markdellacqua1038 2 месяца назад
@@chicodaboi174 Probably reality.
@jhixofficial7634
@jhixofficial7634 2 года назад
Humanity has been doing psychedelics since the beginning of time
@DetaoMakesMusic
@DetaoMakesMusic 5 лет назад
Considering an ayahausca journey for addiction treatment. Has anyone else had luck with this way of treatment? What should you expect? How did you feel afterwards? And whats the longevity of the treatment afterwards?
@godsmack1716
@godsmack1716 2 года назад
I know someone very very well whos currently microdosing to help with their recovery and its been a God send....if you're willing to do the work its amazing ....
@lighttheway4694
@lighttheway4694 Год назад
Update?
@theotherway1639
@theotherway1639 3 года назад
Cool vid. I also enjoyed the book "30 Days to Sobriety" by Harper Daniels.
@debbiehorn4221
@debbiehorn4221 8 лет назад
I'll be a study case.
@christinebadostain6887
@christinebadostain6887 4 года назад
Sounds compelling for sure--altered states of consciousness have been sought after probably since the dawn of humanity, however, there will, come a time and it is already happening, when one will just have to dig in and see oneself without ANY altering agent---just raw honesty---ouch!
@peterspace1342
@peterspace1342 8 лет назад
also check out Rational Recovery by Jack Trimpey
@3dge--runner
@3dge--runner 8 лет назад
great talk from this alcoholic (that would be me). thank you
@mdmehedihasanrocky7648
@mdmehedihasanrocky7648 8 лет назад
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@joeyakkary6018 8 лет назад
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@ernestcox3677
@ernestcox3677 7 лет назад
+joey Akkary veg . ctr c.f. c t
@vampire1111pitbull
@vampire1111pitbull 4 года назад
I know why people drink. I get it. Its the only relief there is from the pain this world and this life provides unlimited.
@eunahchang2740
@eunahchang2740 8 лет назад
pharmaceutical is going bust baby.
@peir77
@peir77 6 лет назад
Definitely not ready for addiction recovery. Would like one or two nights without alcohol.. but in no way could I imagine my life without it.
@dj3ecuador100
@dj3ecuador100 4 года назад
Dj DOM he left out that while your addition will be gone you will be able to social drink
@danieloconnell2978
@danieloconnell2978 3 года назад
No, you won’t be able to socially drink, not if you’re an alcoholic. A problem drinker might be able to do so but an alcoholic can never safely drink.
@MaryLopez-kb7xp
@MaryLopez-kb7xp 2 года назад
@@danieloconnell2978 I agree
@clintonlunn4357
@clintonlunn4357 Год назад
Him going to a shaman and taking pschycodelics may sound radical, but have you ever watched someone drink themselves to death?
@darinandwendybrockman7049
@darinandwendybrockman7049 Год назад
Yesssss.
@Byrian420
@Byrian420 3 года назад
I want to volunteer for New Mexico please. I'm an alcoholic and would like this type of recovery!
@stilesdiego8531
@stilesdiego8531 3 года назад
Check out mycodext on Instagram for some Healing psychedelics products. He got quality shrooms, lsd, dmt and others. He's discreet and very reliable.
@mdk12mdk
@mdk12mdk 6 лет назад
10 years on it🐶
@Rhat860
@Rhat860 10 лет назад
Great job. So proud of you!
@jerrysullivan9659
@jerrysullivan9659 20 дней назад
2/5/84❤ using the 12 Step Model.
@jacehendrix3194
@jacehendrix3194 3 года назад
What about withdrawal?
@casey9917
@casey9917 4 года назад
4 ceremonies. Must have gone to Arkana. Everywhere else only does 3 ceremonies for the week. Being that he went to Arkana I wonder if he smoked the 5meo dmt as well. That stuff will change you
@Claudestclaire
@Claudestclaire 10 лет назад
Yes, how many times must a man see his mind, before psychology is freed? The answer my friends, is blowin' in the wind, the answer is blowin' in the wind.
@timkmolloy
@timkmolloy 10 лет назад
10/10 would read this comment again.....
@monsterjesse
@monsterjesse 5 лет назад
nailed it!
@joelaguilar7115
@joelaguilar7115 Год назад
I’m headed to the jungle
@mk-jm5tv
@mk-jm5tv 2 года назад
what drug did he take?
@Lone_Star86
@Lone_Star86 2 года назад
Ayahuasca.
@cherylthomson4361
@cherylthomson4361 7 лет назад
I could use that
@burtons828
@burtons828 9 лет назад
self-awareness consciousness different kinds of events happening the principle a synchronous stickly always a cause for transformation but anything is possible and it doesn't necessarily require psychedelic therapy or anything other than self awareness kindness reflection
@ClandestineMerkaba
@ClandestineMerkaba 7 лет назад
Oh definitely true, but wouldn't you take the shorter path if it was proven to be safer AND more convenient? Not to mention quite the scenic experience, if ya know what I mean!..
@aprilstafford1041
@aprilstafford1041 Год назад
Im awakened but cant into natural dmt.
@jameslopper6911
@jameslopper6911 3 года назад
I can hardly afford the computer I'm watching this video on let alone the plane ticket. and all other expenses involved in going to a shaman in peru. We need these drugs to be free and administered by trained people in the US today because most addicts can't afford it otherwise.
@Lone_Star86
@Lone_Star86 2 года назад
Go volunteer in South America. There is a way.
@lighttheway4694
@lighttheway4694 Год назад
Consider microdosing psilocybin. It is legal in the state of Oregon.
@dawnmaher6165
@dawnmaher6165 5 лет назад
The guy makes sense but how do we get these 'cures'?
@stilesdiego8531
@stilesdiego8531 3 года назад
Check out mycodext on Instagram for some Healing psychedelics products. He got quality shrooms, lsd, dmt and others. He's discreet and very reliable.
@dustyramirez3964
@dustyramirez3964 6 лет назад
not everyone can go to peru to get treatment. good that you can. happy for your privliage.
@igabobalushi
@igabobalushi 6 лет назад
That's why he's talking about it tho, so everyone can have access to this medicine
@frasersnell6304
@frasersnell6304 5 лет назад
You don’t need to go to Peru for this ceremony.
@eliciagarcia8857
@eliciagarcia8857 2 года назад
I think he’s saying the psychedelic he took was the cure. Psilocybin.
@vampire1111pitbull
@vampire1111pitbull 4 года назад
Government depends on the kickbacks and taxes from alcohol sales and toll roads. And its only going to get worse. Bet on it. American political greed.
@evelynbaron2004
@evelynbaron2004 5 лет назад
I am a recovering alcoholic and have heard stories similar to yours. I mean no criticism but the work done using psychedelic drugs during the 1960s, funded by the CIA was not aimed at curing addiction. The well documented denunciation of this practice in Montreal, which used people at the time on a Form 1 which then meant total revocation of human rights resulted in suicides so numerous that records still may not be accessed. I am also aware of the testimony of Sting and his experiences in South America, and Russell Brand that fiery beacon beckoning people to join 12 step recovery. (if my language was irritating my job was done. Russell Brand is insufferable.) Of course I've read Doors of Perception, Aldous Huxley wrote much more widely than his dystopia. Sartre experimented with LSD in the early '30s and was followed on and off by large crabs and lobsters for the rest of his life. I don't respect you. I don't like quick fixes. And, your stand-in Russel Brand interviewed Rupert Sheldrake who was absolutely accessible during their talk. I got lost when Sheldrake talked about visiting on walking tours cathedrals with his son. Brand was unutterably rude. The essence of his final reply was old man your days are over, magic mushrooms are the answer. So much for the 12 steps.
@dimitrioskultukis2358
@dimitrioskultukis2358 3 года назад
Bill wilson took lsd extensively
@garyratoff8080
@garyratoff8080 7 лет назад
He failed to mention that "for some" cannabis can be addictive .
@Vitus1855
@Vitus1855 6 лет назад
Gary Ratoff Cannabis has never been prooved addictive. People may develop a dependence, thinking for instance they need it to sleep. Any urge can be perceived as addiction, we crave water....
@christinebadostain6887
@christinebadostain6887 4 года назад
@@Vitus1855 water is essential to life. Pot is not.
@Jessica-ii8fy
@Jessica-ii8fy 6 месяцев назад
So can eating
@Jessica-ii8fy
@Jessica-ii8fy 6 месяцев назад
Pot helps give us oxygen 😀
@j.rebekah8605
@j.rebekah8605 Год назад
From one drug to another.
@St.Calamity
@St.Calamity Год назад
You're very naive if you think psychedelics are addictive.
@deaner1722
@deaner1722 8 лет назад
aspirin has never worked for me for treating any sort of pain.
@chrispilutik7474
@chrispilutik7474 8 лет назад
oh
@kenfikeo1648
@kenfikeo1648 Год назад
reemergence
@nemesisbreakz
@nemesisbreakz 6 лет назад
With so many stories like these, so many stories of trying everything to stop drinking... Why do we not prohibit the use of alcohol and other drugs?
@frasersnell6304
@frasersnell6304 5 лет назад
nemesisbreakz is that a serious question? I think the average alcohol consumption per household was significantly higher during prohibition days. Portugal has decriminalized all drugs and focused their government tax dollars on education and treatment. They have had success with this
@aliciam6725
@aliciam6725 8 лет назад
What did the shaman know that we in the west do not?
@ivanbarreras9445
@ivanbarreras9445 8 лет назад
technically we're north not west. but we did know that. from peyote, toads with DMT and muchrooms. It's just people don't look around or talk about it.
@flowgo5299
@flowgo5299 7 лет назад
alicia andsisters well the war on drugs for one thing. its is commerce from convicts. But its not really war on drugs, its a war on addicts. So basically a war on sick people some with some serious mental health issues. perhaps shaman's are less judgemental, lol, and spiritual in a way that a capitalise society can not be
@ivanbarreras9445
@ivanbarreras9445 7 лет назад
***** I don't know if that's completely true. I know people who have had life changing experiences and got rid of a cocaine addiction. And they had no shaman and no one to sing icaros. Just layed in the grass in silence on 3 occasions
@ivanbarreras9445
@ivanbarreras9445 7 лет назад
***** thats a fair point. Thank you for the clarification. Sometimes it's hard to read intention. Best of luck.
@savedfaves
@savedfaves 6 лет назад
They know plants.
@nemesisbreakz
@nemesisbreakz 6 лет назад
Only reason it worked for him is because he was able to escape the environment he was in. He took a trip. Which allowed him to detox and not have old environmental influences provoke him. Not everyone has the same luxury.
@justinhoffman429
@justinhoffman429 3 года назад
Wow thanks Dr. Great insight. SMFH.
@jannorris4140
@jannorris4140 5 лет назад
it must b nice to have money..
@JaffaGaffa
@JaffaGaffa 3 года назад
Na...
@mirusso
@mirusso 9 лет назад
As a 19 month recovered alcoholic with everlasting addictive tendencies, how is it proved that I wouldn't or couldn't fall to the grips or dependency of psychedelics? "Treating addiction with drugs, that's like rearranging furniture on the Titanic" - Russell Brand
@bboschboi
@bboschboi 9 лет назад
The idea that someone would get dependent on psychedelics is absurd. "Drug" is a somewhat confusing term here because potentially addictive drugs like depressants and stimulants have almost nothing in common with psychedelics other than being psychoactive. I think Russel Brand was referring to the use of drugs like methadone to treat addictions to drugs like heroine because that was his problem.
@shiningdawn8578
@shiningdawn8578 9 лет назад
Using the host of this talk as an example, his Ayahuasca experience wasn't the most pleasant. It requires courage, and many people say that they need to work some things through before they're willing to go back there.
@Synchrodipity
@Synchrodipity 9 лет назад
Nicholas Mirusso I'm 28 years in NA and have no intention of trying this approach ... Addiction is about the person and not about the substance, and while it may not be addictive, the fact that it's an"instant gratification" approach to spirituality is massive issue here.
@shiningdawn8578
@shiningdawn8578 9 лет назад
Cruelty Free Cockney There is nothing "instant" to the gratification of these substances. It's not "Poof! You're healed!!!"It's much more like... "You know all of that pain that you've bottled up your entire life? Well, now you're going to FEEL it and learn how to let it go." It's not exactly easy and most certainly does not provide an "escape". Brazil has been trying this approach with some prisoners. They go to the camp and participate in ceremony. While under the influence, they end up facing their victim and also have to face (come to terms) with what they've done. It's painful healing. Don't let the speaker in the video lead you to believe that his experiences were all roses as to how he was healed.And... I didn't know there was a patented approach to being "properly" spiritual. You are aware, aren't you, that spiritual masters for millennia have partaken in these substances in order to achieve their insights, are you not?
@Synchrodipity
@Synchrodipity 9 лет назад
HeartOfSky DCUO Possibly true with everything else you said - but just because people have been doing things for a millennia doesn't make it right - just look at the history of warfare or the way people treat animals for example.
@plusbonus1165
@plusbonus1165 4 года назад
Sorry but this chap doesn't look like a pisshead. More of an educated stoner . Just saying.
@havaianas5780
@havaianas5780 2 года назад
How can a highly tobacco addicted chain smoking shaman be entitled to heal someone else's addictions? That doesn't make sense.
@St.Calamity
@St.Calamity Год назад
You'd have to find out yourself.
@petergonzalez1909
@petergonzalez1909 9 лет назад
Recovery my ass!
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