Recumbent Bike Vs Road Bike: Manon Challenges Hank To A Race

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Recumbent bikes are the fastest type of bicycle thanks to their aerodynamics and low position. But just how do they compare to a road bike? Manon took on James around Castle Combe race track to find out in a time trial challenge.
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@dariuslankarian3282 3 года назад

Credit to GCN for not being anti recumbent and anti ebike, 2 traits I see with many hardcore roadies.

@silverburn55 3 года назад

To be fair, most roadies only get annoyed at 500-1000w E-bike riders taking their Strava KOMs. Old boy needing some extra help getting to the shops? Rock on - better he’s on an E-bike than in a car.

@stajp67 3 года назад

To be fair, GCN had a few laughs at recumbents over the years prior to Hank taking the challenge of learning how to ride it.

@cokebottles6919 3 года назад

I don't actually know any roadies that are anti either of those. Taking KOMS is the only irritating part, but I see more getting taken by people in cars forgetting Strava is still recording. E-bikes are great for a lot of reasons and for a lot of people. Recumbent bikes look a bit dorky, but lets be honest, so do most roadies. People getting outside happy and healthy is all that really matters. I'd love to be able to share a climb with a significant other if an e-bike is what makes it possible.

@douglasburnside 3 года назад

Of course we hard-core roadies are disparaging of recumbents. I mean, they're different from what we're used to, so they can't possibly be any good! 😀 I was a semi-serious road racer for upwards of 40 years, and for half that time I rode a recumbent to work on a daily basis. Loved both of them!

@woutervanr 3 года назад

@@silverburn55 Or a young woman cycling 30km to work and back. Or and e-cargobike to move children or loads of other stuff. Everything is better than a car. Sure, the batteries are still an issue, but space is as well and there are already way too many cars. a recumbrent is nice for the same 30km trip if you want to stay dry(er) and not use any electricity.

@VandimFerreira 3 года назад

I couldn't stop laughing when I heard Manon dropping the f bomb in that curve. I swear that it look like a Pixar movie rating 18+.

@workingguy6666 3 года назад

0:14 Manon arrives like a Bond villain. Could we have the first female Bond villain right here, right now?!

@Mgoblagulkablong 3 года назад

nah, not black enough...

@Catcrumbs 2 года назад

So Rosa Klebb, May Day, Xenia Onatopp and Elektra King were with the good guys in your eyes?

@o0musique0o 3 года назад

Strange hearing Manon getting 'bleeped' 🤣😂

@jesseheath7718 3 года назад

Brilliant! Love the experience of a recumbent bike!

@daniele_go 3 года назад

Nice video! More recumbents please, they are faster, girls are happier and you can stay warmer inside 😉

@whatyoudo9773 2 года назад

and sweaty and we dont get to see their cute butts in tights...so, theirs that.

@Obsidian72 3 года назад

Hank hit 1100 watts what the fu-

@marchamlin8936 3 года назад

Manon gets extra credit points for getting into that thing and not having a horrible, disfiguring crash on the turns!

@kufman01 3 года назад

You can't fight physics. The aerodynamic drag of that "velomobile" is probably 1/4 (or less) of any upright bike. 10 uprights in a pack would still struggle to keep up if there was equal power in the velo.

@percyfaith11 3 года назад

Until you add hill climbs into the picture.

@kufman01 3 года назад

@@percyfaith11 Yes, hills will be a problem for the velo but not for recumbents like Cruzbikes.

@percyfaith11 3 года назад

@@kufman01 why is that? Is the velo geared higher than cruz bikes and uprights?

@kufman01 3 года назад

@@percyfaith11 No, the velo is heavier and does not have a moving bottom bracket which is the best for hills (in my opinion). Even a light velo will be 40+ lbs for the most part. Maybe a tick lighter but regular recumbents will be closer to 22lbs or lighter.

@bensonc627 3 года назад

I would not surprise if there will be tons of recumbent flying by on my riding route trying to take the kom...

@BruceWayne-jk1lr 3 года назад

Keep up the recumbent videos please

@scottfuller3401 3 года назад

Always rooting for Manon!

@beholdiamglamdringsbane89 3 года назад

There are recumbent bikes that don't have a shell around them. There are similar shell attachments for road bikes. A truly fair comparison would be one where both bikes have them or both don't. The thumbnail where one bike has a complete shell and the other doesn't told me everything I needed to know about the results and I was not wrong. I've seen lots of recumbent bikes tootling around the park but I have never seen a full shelled outfit b/c those are ridiculous for the average rider who is saving their knees or back or what have you to use. I would like to see a comparison of no shell recumbent vs a shelled road bike please.

@bhayes777767 3 года назад

Love Manon’s energy!!

@Simonisms 3 года назад

That recumbent is 😍😍😍

@johnp.6692 3 года назад

That road bike looks stunning

@GunganWorks 3 года назад

I have been looking forward to this!

@CT37BN 3 года назад

Top aero from that recumbent! Just thinking what if they borrowed the Lotus 108 pursuit bicycle, how different would the results be?

@PsyKeks 3 года назад

If the velomobile keeps being ridden by an untrained and inexperienced rider (specific to recumbents and velomobiles), it might be closer / reversed. It Manon was trained for recumbent riding, she would still smoke that thing.

@jorstvondoom684 3 года назад

How would that particular recumbent perform in a crosswind? Looks fun.

@kjeldsloot 3 года назад

Roadies have more problems with crosswinds. It makes the velomobile even faster. But you will swerve a little bit when you don't expect the wind.

@Rockbinkie 3 года назад

Recumbent vs Blake Sampson... in a game of BIKE 🤔

@leratomawela 3 года назад

@2:40 I think Hank meant to say 50 - 34 gears and not 54 -30. I was confused for a bit there......

@gcn 3 года назад

Yeah slip up from Hank there! Not even sure a 54 would've saved him!

@mattiasandersson3444 3 года назад

Cool but i had thoght it was a little offshore race boat if i didnt knew it was a bike :)

@GregCantori 3 года назад

Well that's going to blow up some cycling myths - namely, that bike weight is so important - An untrained lower wattage rider with a heavy machine can smoke a highly trained higher wattage rider on a light machine. All about the aero - And she was nice and warm too!.

@GerdLinden 3 года назад

Heat is problem in fully enclosed bikes since 80 % of your energy is heat and there is almost no cooling air.

@hoekie3652 3 года назад

Heat isn't a problem. There is as much cooling air as you want it to have. Footholes, aero air intakes. You can adjust cooling/heating to your personal season preference. And an added bonus: you can ride in cooler shade.

@GerdLinden 3 года назад

@@hoekie3652 I ride a Milan SL. Heat is a problem! Unless you ride only 30 km/h. I ride almost completly naked no matter if its summer or winter and minus 10 degrees. In summer you will sit in big lake of sweat. Yes, it will be much better with big air intakes (you won´t recongnise small ones), but you have to pay for this with some speed (but even faster than on a roadbike).

@nonfictionone 3 года назад

can't believe his gearing? 30/54 and 11/30 I don't need a 54x11 I guess to be honest a 30x30 would be nice from time to time. I thought my 34x27 was small.

@McDanielGrant 3 года назад

Would love to see these bikes oftener.... there looks like fun, and there are not much good videos out there.

@kjeldsloot 3 года назад

There are a lot good videos about velomobiles actually. But you need to search for them. And when you find some good velomobile channels you can subscribe to them.

@jason200912 Год назад

The dogma is a climbing endurance bike, it's not a very good aero bike.

@missjobra 3 года назад

Yay Manon!

@BTcycle 3 года назад

I think Manon found her new bike.

@Hunter_Bidens_Crackpipe_ 3 года назад

simon's TT vs the recumbent

@Butts0hboi Год назад

Now this is pod racing!

@djdeliso7949 3 года назад

simon's TT vs the recumbent

@AndriiA939 3 года назад

simon with the recumbent vs 5 with TT bikes

@manon-lloyd 3 года назад

👀

@sebastianop.1590 3 года назад

Not one TT but two.

@simonowen1144 3 года назад

He'll still get whooped unless the five of them get a fast start and then block the track.

@JanneRasanen2 3 года назад

@@manon-lloyd Do it you know you want to :-D

@craigfirman1809 3 года назад

Here in Australia we actually race recumbents (HPVs) in massive endurance events. You should come down under after Covid and enter the HPV Murray Bridge 24 hour as the GCN team. The Murray Bridge event has over 500 teams competing and would be great for you guys to come and race in. I'm sure my team wouldn't mind having you guys join if there's only 1 or 2 of you coming. upvote so they see this plz.

@AlanGoodman47 3 года назад

They were lined up to do the 24 hour pedal car race at Shenington last year but Covid got in the way...

@matejlieskovsky9625 3 года назад

Can we please get HPV racing in the EU? I ride Audax organized by a local group of recumbent riders and watching the huge cruise missiles thunder past you on the slightest of downhills is a sight to behold.

@roymacdonald6774 3 года назад

@@matejlieskovsky9625 There are the World Championships being held in Amsterdam this year in July.

@alfredogatto6012 3 года назад

@larsbee 2 года назад

after covid? not sure if that ever hapoens unless most people got it

@olamarvin 3 года назад

The one thing a recumbent doesn't nail - slow mo shots.

@matejlieskovsky9625 3 года назад

I was waiting for Manon to take a turn a little too fast and the slow mo showing the bent on two wheels :-D But yeah, not much to see on a velo like this, up a steep enough hill you can barely tell they are doing anything!

@chasman9662 3 года назад

Hans Device? No.

@KandiKlover 3 года назад

You can get an even faster 2 wheeled low racer that looks cool leaning in the turns.

@TimpBizkit 3 года назад

@@matejlieskovsky9625 yeah on a hill it just looks like it has a weak electric motor moving the thing.

@matejlieskovsky9625 3 года назад

@@TimpBizkit I was once catching up to two Quests up a hill on a brevet. Trust me, "weak electric motor" is an understatement of how unimpressive their movement appeared. I could barely tell they were moving and I am no fast climber myself. Seeing one of them thunder past me at a ridiculous speed down the slightest of downhills a little later was a different thing entirely...

@Vokunos 3 года назад

whos faster ? 5 Presenters in an Recumbent Bike vs SI on an Aero Bike

@magguscrow 3 года назад

Only for Ollie to get dropped a third of the way in because he brought his light-weight recumbent instead of the aero one.

@ruan13o 3 года назад

5 presenters in just one recumbent? That will be quite the human origami exercise.

@Vokunos 3 года назад

@@ruan13o we need to spice those challenges up, thats why. Also Ollie cant get dropped that way... maybe...

@roichir7699 3 года назад

@@Vokunos He can fall out.

@gcn 3 года назад

@@magguscrow 😂

@-P-Z- 3 года назад

next: Manon vs Hank's dad on e-bike

@suryamullapudi9274 3 года назад

yes

@workingguy6666 3 года назад

Manon in this recumbent vs. Si on his time trial bike (that the four others couldn't catch).

@enthusiastswarehouse330 3 года назад

Manon in the recumbent AND Hank's dad on an E-bike vs. Si on his TT bike. And if that fails,Anyone on anything vs. Si on his TT bike as Si's head will be so big from winning so often that his aero advantage will vaporise.

@Hunter_Bidens_Crackpipe_ 3 года назад

EMBN already did this on a track

@TimpBizkit 3 года назад

It would have to be an e-bike that doesn't revert to human power mode above a certain speed threshold of say 15 or 20 mph, otherwise the e-bike only has an advantage in a slower uphill race.

@redsnappa7338 3 года назад

6.8Kg full carbon Pinarello beaten by a 20Kg bike. shows that areo is more important then bike weight and that the most un-aero part of the bike is the rider.

@wilfdarr 3 года назад

On the flat it's no contest. Wouldn't want to climb a bike like that though, and in the mountains a lot more time is spent on the climb than the descent, so that's where time is made. "Horses for courses" as they say.

@paddyotoole2058 3 года назад

@@wilfdarr Yep, would be a totally different story in the hills.

@matteodiluce9387 3 года назад

@@wilfdarr In 2019 in the Trans America Bike Race a velomobile won easily despite the 65.000 metres vertical (210.000 feet) and overtook the leader on an uphill. So, on a mixed course the velombile will always win.

@honza-galla 3 года назад

@@matteodiluce9387 They are also way more comfortable which is very important while doing long-distance racing.

@matteodiluce9387 3 года назад

@@honza-galla Exactly, no sore butt, wrists and neck. Just reclining with a drink and putting out a hundredsomething watts in the flat and 300something uphill. I've done more than 400 kilometres in one day in my Milan SL, and I used to be a sprinter formerly. If I can do that ... 😁

@steeptachanka2867 3 года назад

I feel like they sleep in their cycling kits

@matteodiluce9387 3 года назад

... in the Milan SL. Which is super comfy, BTW.

@dieabsolutegluckskuche5174 3 года назад

Absolutely not, haha, they're just going for 80 kph

@TheNeelonRokk 3 года назад

Top notch. Now put in someone who is used to riding those velomobiles. Try and 5v1 that. And remember, keep smiling. 😎 👍

@appa609 3 года назад

n vs 1 wouldn't help. Someone who knows how to race that milan will breeze past the world peloton.

@martinveale3239 3 года назад

I'm an novice cyclist on my Raptobike Low racer recumbent and regularly try and do the Castle Coombe circuit in Tuesday evenings during the summer hours. I was intregued about the video and time comparison. Don't do long distances or training, just get out when I can. Personal lap time of 4min 21 and top speed 34mph. It's the acceleration that is the most outstanding thing though, as well as the comfort. It's not for everyone mind you.

@TheNeelonRokk 3 года назад

@@appa609 O I know. I'd be a hoot to see them try though. 🤣

@matteodiluce9387 3 года назад

Yes, and have Richard Schaffenroth or Matthias König ride the velomobile when they are in shape. That would be a fun workout for the pros ... till they get lapped ... for the third time ...

@amightysailingman 3 года назад

A long time ago, there was the account of a racer (experienced but not world or Olympic class) in an HPV lapping a four-man pursuit team in a velodrome.

@LouisHv2 3 года назад

I'm so pleased you made another recumbent video 😍

@adrianzajdel165 3 года назад

You should do recumbent vs 2 road cyclists ?.

@thelonesculler 3 года назад

Ah s***, here we go again

@o1s2e3l4p5o6s7e8l9 3 года назад

recumbent vs 2 TTs

@burntbread9367 3 года назад

@@o1s2e3l4p5o6s7e8l9 great idea

@4nz-nl 3 года назад

I've tried that a few times by occasion (I ride faired recumbents more or less similar to this one). Depends very much on the wind then; with a fat tailwind, a group of experienced TT-riders will beat me, as I have no advantage off them and no advantage from the tailwind. Into a headwind, I have never lost a battle against anything other than another recumbent (that includes E-bikes).

@taufikabidin412 3 года назад

@@4nz-nl you need to use RANS sail trikes on tailwinds

@Damian_Hunt 3 года назад

Manon, I don’t think the race was the only thing you won, you also won most swearing ‘bleeps’.

@deercreeker 3 года назад

Thanks for adding velomobile content and please continue featuring this terrific human powered technology. More velomobile content please!

@jeremyyork3538 Месяц назад

Yes, I agree but the 'roadies' won't like it!

@szajkaj 3 года назад

Hank: Trying to get as aero as possible Drops: Am I a joke to you?

@CBMaster2 3 года назад

On the hoods with bent elbows is the most (safe) aero dynamic position on a road bike

@Ob_Bashar 3 года назад

@@CBMaster2 it's also much more comfortable

@moaningpheromones 7 месяцев назад

@@CBMaster2 blah blah blah getting down on the bars sucks but it sure is quicker.

@SayMcGillicuddy 3 года назад

great to see more 'non-standard' bikes on GCN. Would love to some of you massive-armed presenters try a handbike. Hank vs Para-athelte?

@nt2883 3 года назад

Thankyou GCN for once again highlighting just how good recumbents can be. Would very much like to see more velomobile and streamliner content as it is an exciting area of cycling that is dying to be fully embraced by the cycling community

@RoScFan 3 года назад

I'd quite like to see upright velomobiles, or enclosed road road bikes. They'd probably be the best of all world. Imagine that also with e-assist. Would make cars seem useless.

@JanneRasanen2 3 года назад

@@RoScFan I have seen pictures of faired upright bikes but the glass house effect of 100 % transparent fairing made them too hot to ride. I wonder if they forgot to put in air intake holes :-)

@matteodiluce9387 3 года назад

@@RoScFan No, enclosed road bikes would fall over with the least bit of cross wind.

@matejlieskovsky9625 3 года назад

@@RoScFan The increased frontal area is a big problem for uprights. What do you think is the downside to bents?

@chrisperceval193 3 года назад

@@matejlieskovsky9625 They weigh more - certainly mine does... Only an issue on hills really. I have a velomobile (not the Milan) on order at the moment...

@rhein228 3 года назад

Nice. There’s just one statement that needs correction: The velomobile‘s natural habitat is not the closed circuit, but the open road - just like the road bike. Compare the two over a 200 km track with 1500 m of climbing or so, and put trained riders on both machines (that is riders trained for the specific bike).

@ray076NL 3 года назад

their natural habitat are flat windy countries. it would win.

@TheAegisClaw 3 года назад

@@ray076NL you should check out @rhein228s videos...

@ray076NL 3 года назад

@@TheAegisClaw stupid me is allready subscribed to him, doesn't mean i'm wrong, it means i'm from the netherlands. i have never seen a velomobile being beaten by a racing cyclist. ever. I now think his suggestion is great though, but put mark beaumont against john williams over a longer distance.

@tianyi05 3 года назад

Yes its faster, but so are some e-bikes and nearly all motorcycles. Who cares? Its all about what you want to ride. If you want to go fast get an Audi RS8.

@TheAegisClaw 3 года назад

@@tianyi05 that's one of the most stupid comments I've ever seen on RU-vid. Well done!

@taufikabidin412 3 года назад

Manon sound just likr me when I was a totally beginner on the recumbent. the muscles are different and the time can still be much better

@RoScFan 3 года назад

How are the muscles different!??!?!

@JanneRasanen2 3 года назад

@@RoScFan He worded it unclearly. Human physiology does not change but since the legs are up on the pedals in some models well above the bum and the gravity works differently on different muscle groups due to the different leg position recumbent riders tend to emphasize different muscle groups. Some beginners tire out mid ride without any warning I hear in the first few months. It did not happen to me ever so YMMV. I guess my background in several sports helped me avoid adjusting problems. Starting in cold weather I found climbing in a a lot of clothing that restricted movements and muscle contractions made climbing tougher than on normal bikes. Once the weather warmed up and I got more riding in and was able to use less restricting clothing climbing became equal to a similar weight regular bike. People make too much of a fuss about recumbents climbing. They climb just fine.

@taufikabidin412 3 года назад

@@RoScFan I dont know, but I feel the difference when riding an upright and a recumbent, the place where you feel tired is different. And there is the difference of heart height compared to lower and upper body so there will be different blood pumping and perfusion

@SkyhawkSteve 3 года назад

very true. I spent about 7 years on 'bents only. I'm back on upright bikes mostly now, and just can't get my 'bents up to speed like I used to.

@TheAegisClaw 3 года назад

@@RoScFan a lot of the minor muscles Involved are different, it takes several weeks to many months to go from a fit upright rider and convert that into a fit recumbent rider.

@gamby16a 3 года назад

Manon swearing like a sailor is the real victory here!

@ray076NL 3 года назад

Before seeing the vid, recumbent wins

@andrewc0128 3 года назад

Same here. I only watched it to see how much she beat him by.

@JohnR31415 3 года назад

I was marginally concerned when it was only two miles (a distance I would often wheel in my chair rather than breaking out a pedal powered machine).

@CyberdyneSystemsSkynet 3 года назад

2:40 "54-30 on the front." New Dura-Ace range is impressive, 24 teeth! :D

@Cabomccabe 3 года назад

that inner chain ring doesn't look like a 30. I'm running a 52-34 and it shifts fine, but can be a little clunky. i can't imagine a 50-34. Is that right? Is that some special pro set up?

@xCrugixX 3 года назад

I guess it's 54 at front, 30 at back

@andrewduty2228 3 года назад

@@Cabomccabe I think he misspoke, it's labeled 50-34 on the chainring

@TimpBizkit 3 года назад

I have a 50-34 so it must be that. I have a 52-42-30 triple also, though in the quest for the ultimate hill climber bike it got replaced by a 44-32-22 with a 9 speed 42-11 cassette. I'm not sure whether the braze on derailleur will handle the smaller chainrings though so I've kept the originals just in case.

@JmanEspresso 3 года назад

@@Cabomccabe 50-34 up front is standard... well no.. common. It’s usually called compact. You’ve got 50-34, 52-36, and 53-39. More and more you’re seeing bikes come with a compact up front, and minimum 11-28 rear, if not a 32 or even 11-34. Personally, I like a 50-34 up front and 11-34 in the rear. For me, the climbing range is more important that having 5 gears from which to choose my perfect cadence on the flats. The beauty of options!!

@arcticrunning8370 3 года назад

More Manon please!

@enthusiastswarehouse330 3 года назад

Having more female presenters in general would be a good thing.

@GarySolomon 3 года назад

Awesome, comparison! Loved the race and that beautiful velomobile. Do you have a link to Velo-ads?

@xMithras 3 года назад

Hank would have won if he didn't have the extra drag from that label dangling from his scarf

@arnoldligtvoet3220 3 года назад

When the next Battle Mountain WHPSC (world human powered speed challenge) occurs you guys should send out a team or hire me as your special reporter. Fully streamlined recumbent racing on a closed of section of highway reaching speeds close to 90 miles per hour! Usually in September when there is no global pandemic.

@rwenger567 3 года назад

Next the ultimate showdown: Manon in the recumbent vs Si on the TT bike vs 5 GCN presenters working together.

@billinhouston3291 3 года назад

This right here. On the Castle Combe course, so the 5 presenters have some kind of chance.

@todd4471 3 года назад

When Manon dropping f-bombs and cursing you know she means business! Hank didnt stand a chance.

@_PATRlCK 3 года назад

Make more With that velomobiles 😍

@heavyrat 3 года назад

Why aren't we all riding recumbents? So many positives. Can't think of too many negatives

@matejlieskovsky9625 3 года назад

They are expensive, heavy (which makes them slow to get moving and up hill) and the visibility in cities is miserable (not a good city bike). And they were banned by the UCI, which might be the biggest part.

@ikimarcos 3 года назад

@@matejlieskovsky9625 Heavier and generally more expensive, yes. Not all recumbents are terrible in the visibility aspect. And yeah, UCI banned them, and that has helped making them less appealing.

@matejlieskovsky9625 3 года назад

@@ikimarcos I meant all of that generally. Average upright will be lighter, cheaper and have better visibility than the average bent. The same will likely go for the extremes - an upright city bike is pretty much without competition from the recumbents simply due to the head not being far enough forward. But yes, highracers are decent for a city bike. Not that I'd want one - horses for races and all that. But you do you!

@ikimarcos 3 года назад

@@matejlieskovsky9625 Cool, man. I indeed ride a recumbent in the city, and while it has its shortcomings like you stated, it also has unexpected advantages. Namely, being such an unusual sight that cars will actually ride way slower just to check what it is - increasing safety. I rode uprights for years and had never such an experience.

@MetalMachineShop 3 года назад

I've been waiting for another velomobile video! Brilliant! How about a race over ten or 100 laps next time? (No, I'm not volunteering!)

@MarcoRuga 3 года назад

Manon reached 44 km/h average and Hank 42 km/h. The best recumbent rider can reach up to 60-62 km/h average speed on a similar circuit, standing start. Here are the results of the 2018 HPV world championships: www.bhpc.org.uk/Data/Sites/1/media/events/events18/wc2018/02-tt/TT-WC2018.html

@katcorot 3 года назад

Next race John in his velo or Neil, they'd leave you two upright riders in the dust. Can take over 3 months to train the extra muscles recumbents use, to be able to fully go fast with them.

@ray076NL 3 года назад

took me a few years to get to peak power on a recumbent

@philipcooper8297 3 года назад

160 W to go 50 km/h, now that is efficiency!

@VEC7ORlt 3 года назад

That and your ass doesn't hurt!

@matteodiluce9387 3 года назад

With a bit of tuning you can reduce drag even more and only use 135 Watts to 140 Watts at 50kph. cW can drop to 0.072 in record trim. It is quite astounding.

@barmouthbridge8772 3 года назад

problem is she said she averaged 270 watts yet her top speed was 35mph or 56kmh. don't quite add up.

@Simon_is_not_sure 3 года назад

@@barmouthbridge8772 Don't forget she wasn't going straight in that race

@gogocro1 3 года назад

@@barmouthbridge8772 she probably did the max watts at the start, and for the top speed she used like 200w

@daharkkjw 3 года назад

Manon Lloyd still Queen of the Track! Loved this

@strawhousepig 3 года назад

Wish you would call it a velomobile rather than recumbent since every velomobile is a recumbent but not every recumbent is a velomobile.

@markusmencke8059 3 года назад

Would like to see that again with a flying start, to offset for the acceleration differences. Probably going to be worse for Hank.

@merckxy54 3 года назад

Yep, dont know how long Manon took to get up to speed but it would show how slow a bike really is against a recumbant

@billinhouston3291 3 года назад

5 v 1 v recumbent, with a flying start.

@photocreation34 3 года назад

@@billinhouston3291 *5 TTs

@whatyoudo9773 2 года назад

they should also mix it up with reality, have them both stop and carry thier respective machines on their backs for 10 yards. ;]

@wladpolyanzew6141 3 года назад

We need Si on tt bike versus recumbent

@monkeysrightpaw 3 года назад

Ollie might be able to keep up in that up turned trike in a bath tub.

@Gigadenza 3 года назад

This video needed to be an hour long!!

@JanTrenson 3 года назад

Great stuff! Please cover the Human Powered Vehicles World Championships in July (in Amsterdam!)

@PsyKeks 3 года назад

Or any recumbent racing. The Britisch Human Power Club does them all the time, I think. Or actually they do races where any human powered vehicle may enter, but upright bikes just don't have a chance of winning. 😉 Would be a great chance for GCN to just enter a few riders on their uprights and get smoked by fifty-year-olds. 😁 Not much hassle with setting up the event, either. Then there are the crazy Australian velomobile races with lots of contact and rolling over. 😄

@ashj1390 3 года назад

@@PsyKeks You don't roll once.....it's like 2.5 rolls and a slide lol. Then you're yelling at a Marshall that you're not hurt (ego is) and to hurry up and put you upright again to get out there. Murray Bridge is our 24hr endurance race, madness but so much fun.

@ΘάνατοςΧορτοφάγος 3 года назад

Castle combe 2,977 km Road bike 4:16 = 41,86 kmh avg. Recumbent 4:02 = 44,26 kmh avg.

@SirTobiDerKINGderH 3 года назад

did you remember to smile, Manon?

@jimmyzhao9748 3 года назад

I 'get' the comment. 😁

@larsulveland2690 3 года назад

Thinking of a track day with Manon, this was not what I had expected, but definetly a fun surprise.

@Larsie538 3 года назад

0:40 "You're not going to *beep* win this"

@honza-galla 3 года назад

If you want to know more about recumbents in general, you can visit www.recumbent.news

@karlInSanDiego 3 года назад

Manon on ICE VTX vs. Alex on Greenspeed Aero vs. Hank on Bachetta Carbon Trike 2.0 vs. Connor on Catrike 700 vs. Ollie on classic WindCheetah with fairing vs. Si on Orbea Ordu TT

@_PraveenSingh_ 3 года назад

I am so happy the recumbent won, after all those aerodynamics simulations the engineers have to model to create that shape.

@srenkongstad2992 3 года назад

Manon is having so much fun in this! Good job!

@paulsmith1552 3 года назад

Never heard Manson let they language fly so much. That was funny.

@supernoodles908 3 года назад

Considering Manon does car racing, I'm expecting some tight lines

@ViveSemelBeneVivere 3 года назад

Manon absolutely bombed it, she took the apexes like a pro car racing driver.

@Mattventuring 3 года назад

Yes she was much better at taking the racing line

@AlanGoodman47 3 года назад

Always great to see HPVs featured! Result was inevitable, but an experienced rider in the Milan would knock 30+ seconds off that time.

@Shellewell 3 года назад

HPV?! You can get a vaccine for them you know...

@thomasmore260 3 года назад

@@Shellewell HPV=Human Powered Vehicle HPV=Humane Papilloma Virus ==> HPV≠HPV

@Shellewell 3 года назад

@@thomasmore260 I mean... yeah. It's called making a joke.

@kpflugshaupt 3 года назад

Manon: I WON SOMETHING!! 😆

@iambennyboy 3 года назад

Might I advise you guys to checkout the Australian HPV Super Series, you're seriously missing out on the big racing scene of these recumbent bikes

@seppoinnanen5577 3 года назад

Some people tend to think that velomobiles are meant for flat roads. But I really enjoy riding my DF on a hilly terrain, too. The momentum that you get when going downhill takes you far to the coming uphill, and with the speed that I have never experienced with an upright

@budwyzer77 Год назад

I've got a Velocity Velo that I rarely take out because I live in a hilly area. There's no worse feeling than having to stop that beast at a stale red light at the bottom of a giant hill. At that point you have to come to a dead stop and only get two seconds to catch your breath! Fortunately I just got a refurbished Lightning R-84 and I love it. It *eats* hills.

@hutchmusician 3 года назад

I know everyone’s said it, but you know we need Manon in the recumbent and the Siborg on his TT bike!

@matteodiluce9387 3 года назад

Great video, guys! Hats off to Manon for taking the velomobile around the track so quickly! But just imagine someone actually used to riding that thing, who can take the turns at the limit and then do ten laps ... ... ... no, let's not imagine that ... that would be utterly devastating and frustrating for whoever from the GCN team gets destroyed. ;) )

@scottmcelhiney323 2 года назад

Just ignore that the 24 hour record was set a few years back by a 56 year old Austrian gentleman at over 30mph... for 24 hours... again for those in the back... averaged over 30mph for 24 hours straight. In a basically stock Milan like she was riding.

@matteodiluce9387 2 года назад

@@scottmcelhiney323 I don't ignore the fact that the 24-hr-record was set by an amateur gentleman from the North of Germany (that's where Christian from Ascheberg, RIP, was from) in a highly optimised special edition Milan SL CAS on a very fast track with no tight turns and. Still 50.8 kph or 31.57 mph for 24 hours is unbelieveablely amazing!

@budwyzer77 Год назад

@@scottmcelhiney323 Remember that a "stock" Milan still retails for about $13,000. It's a human-powered racecar.

@matteodiluce9387 10 месяцев назад

@@budwyzer77And remember that a much slower top-of-the-line stock road racing bike these days costs quite a bit more.😂

@scottmcelhiney323 8 месяцев назад

@@budwyzer77 Racecar/commuter/grocery getter/getting pulled over by the police because they think it has to have an engine....

@hebrews11vs5 3 года назад

I want one. If people were really serious about the environment, society would commute in one of those. It would be great if one day there was infastructure to safely ride one on the road.

@PsyKeks 3 года назад

The infrastructure is basically there, it's just blocked and demages by cars. 🤣

@wladpolyanzew6141 3 года назад

Amazing job, guys! Great video! Always glad to see recumbents on the channel.

@Steve-og3cr 3 года назад

I've got a trek madone, a Phantom Lightning recumbent, and a Performer Low Racer. Of all 3, I love the low racer the best. Absolute blast to ride. On my Madone over 20-30 miles I average 18-19mph usually. On the low racer I average easily over 22mph on 30+ miles. On winding trails (paved) it is a real thrill. I have also crashed on all 3 bikes. Typically weather related...madone (patch of ice), P.Lightning was dark and hit sand, on the Low racer it was a sudden downpour around a turn. The recumbents are FAR better to crash on LOL.

@taufikabidin412 3 года назад

Do you have the F22 fairing for the phantom?

@Steve-og3cr 3 года назад

@@taufikabidin412 I don't have any fairings on anything. On the lightning phantom I'd average easily 18+ on the same rides as the madone. The low racer is just a beast on flats and downhill or headwind.

@scottmcelhiney323 8 месяцев назад

I've crashed on my 1985 Ciocc AND my Tailwind on the same spot with badly designed railroad crossing grabbing my wheels. That accelleration towards the ground from a road bike hurts a LOT more than from a much much lower recumbentt. Plus my Rans Tailwind seat protected me as I was sitting IN the seat rather than on a seat in my crotch.

@andrewmckay2959 3 года назад

Would like to see Hank give his best effort in the recumbent to see how his figures compare to the road bike effort.

@MrBJPitt 3 года назад

Riding in a condom doesn't look very fun.

@iang9746 3 года назад

@@MrBJPitt Ironically the advert in the middle of the film was for Durex!

@MrBJPitt 3 года назад

@@iang9746 hahaha

@daveowns3 3 года назад

this is really random but i'd really like to know how fast and far pro cyclists can go in a pedalo

@1234doodle 3 года назад

160 Watts to go 50 kph? That sounds like something that could make cars in the city obsolete to me!

@4nz-nl 3 года назад

It does, even outside of the city. I commute in the bigger version of this (because I'm tall); the Milan GT. It's a little bit slower than the SL, but I actually lower my commute times between cities considerably with it. On one ~62 km (40 mi) ride I quite consistently match it; the drive by car is longer (over highways) and there's always a traffic jam.

@JanneRasanen2 3 года назад

You can fit more velomobiles than cars on the same road so less congestion...

@PsyKeks 3 года назад

But city needs a lot of accaleration. City is the velomobiles weakness. (Unless you have a route and timing, that allows you to ride kilometers without stopping.)

@4nz-nl 3 года назад

@@PsyKeks Depends very much on your body and training. I'm much more of a sprinter than a tour-beast, the velomobile lets me get away with it. Actually, up to this day, I haven't lost a sprint from standing start (again: counting in legal E-bikes too). Also: If you ride a velomobile, consider just riding between cars in the city (if legal - here, it is).

@JanneRasanen2 3 года назад

@@PsyKeks Recumbents accelerate all right and some faster than race road bikes. It is more true the higher the speed is to which you accelerate.

@mikemowett7401 3 года назад

Speed comparisons for myself Recumbent (Morciglio M1 Lowracer) 28.6 mph avg. Cervelo P3 aluminum with 808 wheel set: 24.4 mph avg. Steel cross bike, 700x32 knobbie, flat shoes, shorts: 21.4 mph avg Same course (Belle Isle 5.44 mile loop in Detroit) at “maximum effort”. My recumbent was built by my friend John Morciglio. It would be good to see a comparison race between a decent racing recumbent and a top quality time trial bike on GCN! 😀

@Goodman-4525 3 года назад

Nice to see Velo-ads going from RJ to GCN

@mlsauron 3 года назад

A nice video‼ But I keep using my 600€ bicycle, use infinity of W's rather buying some new tech inter-galactical-cycle.. How much is it - 10 grands?

@Se0what 3 года назад

That "400 watts c'mon" brought me flashback of jeremy Clarkson screaming POWERRRRR

@moaningpheromones 7 месяцев назад

And JC calling them 'bicyclists'? With the mocking tone?

@LeoInterHyenaem 3 года назад

55 miles an hour in such a bulky, heavy, 3-wheel (of which 2 are not even semi-aerodynamic!) muscle-propelled vehicle, ridden by a sweet, but cheeky girl??? That's ca. 90km/h top speed on the flats, achieved by a woman! Quite the shocker! What also defies belief - is that if the lad on the Dogma completed the track in 4:16 (i.e., 14 seconds slower than the girl in the sealed 3-wheel bath tub that achieved 90 km/h at one point), then surely he must have come close to 70-80 km/h, if not faster) max speed. Unless the 90 km/h for the bath tub -riding girl was a very rare outlier and her sustained speeds were under half of that. How do you ride a road bike that fast??? You ought to swap the bikes on a second try to help us fully appreciate the merits of riding a 3-wheeled bath tub.

@kaboom555 3 года назад

370 for 5 min? I'm impressed Hank!

@666Dejmien666 3 года назад

Not even 5 minutes. I would expect more from an ex pro. Many amateur riders can hold over 400 W for 10 minutes or more.

@ivansemanco6976 3 года назад

@@666Dejmien666 Are those guys vegan?

@666Dejmien666 3 года назад

@@ivansemanco6976 I hope not! The hell with that vegan bullshit.

@michaelkennedy9064 3 года назад

@@666Dejmien666 What's your FTP?

@666Dejmien666 3 года назад

@@michaelkennedy9064 Can't test that without power meter.

@nigel_9361 2 года назад

Let’s watch Manon getting absolutely WRECKED By a 100cc engine Go-Kart

@timtran3595 3 года назад

So obviously the aerodynamics from the frame/chassis of the recumbent really cut down on the time... I am curious though: Is it harder to put out wattage just because of how she's positioned? (not being able to push down on the pedals w/ gravity) Loved the content btw!

@snogfesthosebeast 2 года назад

I am not qualified. I believe the riding position would only be a disadvantage with sprinting (out of the saddle).

@matteodiluce9387 10 месяцев назад

Yes, it is harder as you cannot get out of the saddle and work with your body weight. Plus accelerating the heavier bike is harder. But once it's up to speed ... On a 2.5 kilometre lap in the Netherlands with a few tighter (at that speed) turns I averaged around 55 kph/34.4 mph for 3 hours. So it's easy to keep the speed high. But accelerating out of the slower turns at 400+ watts every time became hard during the last hour.

@siehmichjetzt Год назад

I wish we could have seen this challenge with a velomobile rider whose muscles are actually accustomed to the specific work loads in a recumbent riding position. I have read of riders averaging ~55 kph on open roads in excess of 2hrs of riding time. As much as I enjoy my racing bike and dislike some of the klutzyness of handling velomobiles in general, I am convinced of it's superiority as a human powered vehicle, the Milan as pictured here in particular.

@MaxMustermannnnnn 3 года назад

In my area is such a „bike“. The owner is an old man. He must be 70+ years old. On straight roads he is way faster. But if there is any slope he is slower. Overall I‘m faster. But if he was younger and stronger I would not have a chance. Its extreme fast.

@deKampeerwijzer 3 года назад

Up the hill, slower, yes, because these bikes weigh 27 kilo at least. But down hill, you can’t beat him, even if he’s hitting the brakes.

@MaxMustermannnnnn 3 года назад

@@deKampeerwijzer I‘know. I saw a video about such bikes. In this video they say the calculated topspeed down a hill (cant remember the gradient but I think it was 10%) is around 270kph because of its aerodynamics 😵😵😵