Red Alert 2: Yuri's Revenge - Building Multiple Structures 

Just imagine the announcement for Kirov when you build them at maximum speed. Like "Kirov reporting, Kirov reporting, Kirov reporting" every sec. It would be epic.

the fact that this guy still makes vids about this game just goes to show how timeless this masterpiece is...❤

Seriously been playing this game since it came out and never realized that number of production buildings affect unit production time. Thank you so much.

Map: Has 3 ponds. Also Map: Yeah this is a great to allow shipyards to be built in!

LOL at the Conscript-disguised Spy at the beginning!

Finally a youtube channel that tackles old forgotten rts gem

for real, how much this game holds details and secrets? that's unbelievable!

9:45 careful buddy! mummies are stealing ur crystals on the right! never mess with the mummies

Friend:What's up with all these construction yards? Me:I wanna build my superweapons as fast as conscripts. Friend:.....

Darn, I wanted to see Kirovs being built at Conscript speed. "KiroKiroKirovKiroKirov Reporting"

You know i don't look at graphics that much but Red Alert still holds up with some games nowadays.

Literal decades of playing this game (only got back into this last week) and had NO idea this was a thing. Thank you!

Finally, I didn't understand why others players build so many factories until now

Imagine losing your Nuke silo and rebuilding it before the flying debris from the destroyed one has even settled yet

*In all my years of playing, I didn't know that. :D*

Red Alert 2 Yuri's Revenge is a gigantic experimentation RTS game at this point that is still going on for a long time. That's something not many other RTS games or videogames in general had done.

Important to note: the buildings you build don't have to be side-specific. Instead of spamming only Allied Barracks, you can make things prettier by adding Soviet and Yuri Barracks into the mix. 9:37 shows it nicely. It also shows a bug: when producing units and checking which "Factory" to kick the unit out of, only Factories of the same ID are checked (if a Allied War Factory, ID GAWEAP, is set as primary building, only GAWEAP buildings are checked). A little third-party "patch" known as the Ares DLL fixes this. What should be tested is whether or not multiple Naval Yards impact vehicle production from the War Factory and vice-versa. It looks like we're dealing with two types of "Factory" to the player, but both are listed as being a vehicle-factory in the code, the only difference being one is "naval", and the other is not.

When I learned that multiple barracks will train units faster, I felt my mind being blown but damn the AI is brutal, sort of wish it was an optional difficulty setting for RTS around 2010, aside from BS tier difficulty

2 values other than the cost of the unit contributes to the build time. 1. BuildSpeed=.7 ; general build speed [time (in minutes) to produce a 1000 credit cost item] 2. ; production & power effects MultipleFactory=0.8 ; Ick. This is now a straight discount multiplier that is cumulative. ie at .8 you get 1, .8, .64, .512 instead of 1, 1, 1.25,etc ;gs factory bonus for multiples [1=full bonus, 0=no bonus] (def=1)

For I surprise by the chrono legendary max speed.. for real quality video ❤️

You sir, are awesome for making these videos. I've been having "Yuri fests" at my house since about 2003. 1 to 3 per year, with a couple exceptions during divorce or really busy years like a move and house renovation. In fact I just bought 9 new machines (new to me) that are much faster than my old ones but still cheap. Got a fresh install of XP on all of them and Yuri installed and the Clonezilla image created. Time to dust off all the monitors keyboards and mice. Ready for this October! :)

It's great to see this fully explored. I knew about the holdback if build too fast but now we know more. Great survey!

Wow... I didn't know building multiple of same structure makes building unit faster...

18 Years after seeing my dad playing and tried it for myself, never thought that this mechanic was exist. oh god...

little C4 knocking at ya door. still 1 of the best lines

Haven't played RA2 in years. Man now I feel like playing

Just a tiny little bit of C4 knocking at your door :)

Maan this is incredible! Also, YOU are incredible.

So much joy comes to me when I watch your videos. Keep such ideas and videos coming, Love you from Egypt ❤

This guy is dedicated.

I love playing this and I didn't know that you can fast up the building and creating time. Wow! And I am still in love with the game's graphics.

Very very useful for a few maps with near infinity ore/gems. Very informative, keep it up!

I have only recently began experimenting with the number of structures for the time reduction, even though I have played the game for years. Just found this channel earlier tonight and have learned a few things I didn't know about this game. Thanks, mate.

Man your videos are so useful... Thank you man 👍😊❤️

We used to play with a custom map with tons of resources. It got to the point where we were launching out kirovs at about 1 per second. The animation of a kirov coming out of the war factory was so long that they end up coming out from multiple war factories.

We can do the same for Air Force Command Centers with Harriers and Black Eagle Jets, but you can get an easy reference from the other buildings. Good idea for a video. :)

Great effort ,Thank you

Another game by the former Westwood devs, 8-Bit Armies/Hordes/Invaders has the same mechanic. More production buildings will put a *x bonus over your main factory for every x factories you have.

Thank you so much for the tip, It is somehow useful.

Today I learned that I wasted potentially hours, nah scratch that, potentially years trying to fill the map with grand cannons... when I could have just built 17 construction yards.

Dude, I don't know if you're reading this your content is always great. However, there is one point you should have pointed out, some units if you maximized the training speed you will have less troops than what you have trained. E.g guardian GI

I love it when multiple war factories allow your vehicles to come out of more than one war factory

Thank for spend time to explain

According to the wiki, the cummulative production in vanilla Yuri's Revenge is decreased when you construct more production buildings. For example. Building a second barracks will produce units 20% faster, but a third barracks will change that bonification from 20% to 36%, so the multiplier will be reduced 4% constantly until it reaches 4%. Newer barracks from this point will only improve construction speed to 4% until all unit production speed matches to a conscript. Producing a Chrono Commando requires a bonification of 88%, so 12 Barracks will be required. In the mod Mental Omega APYR, this feature was nerfed, because building a second barracks will produce units 15% faster (instead of 20%) and the third barracks will change that bonification from 15% to 28%, so the multiplier will be reduced 2% constantly until it reaches 2%. Newer barracks from this point will only improve construction speed to 2% until all unit production speed matches to a conscript. If in Mental Omega APYR all vanilla units wasn't changed their production cost and speed for balancing purposes and the Chrono Commando were available, it would require to construct a total of 18 barracks to have the same bonification of 88%, the same as vanilla game. In both cases, since it requires a lot of resources, it would be preferable constructing just 5 production buildings, since its bonification would be 60% (56% in Mental Omega), and it would be enough to change the course of the battle.

1 barracks: a little C4 Knocking at your door... 5 barracks: A little C4 knocking at your door... 11 barracks: *A l--- A l--- A l--- A l--- A l--- A l--- A l---*

Awsome video!!

There's a reason Seven is accepted as the best number for war factories. Fast enough that you can amass your army quickly, slow enough that you can control which factory they come out of. It's also a great speed for expending money at, as too fast can ensure you never have enough funds.

I didn't hear these building sounds for about 15 years. Nostalgia tsunami.

I'm playing ra2 for like 20 years and never knew that. I always thought building multiple barracks is just for you to choose where to spawn your units.

I thought you were going to include the build time per number of buildings. Ex. 3 secs/ conscript at 1 barracks etc.

now every noob in this game knows 0.01% secrets of this game thanks to the genius youtuber, god how i used to love keeping my own secrets and smash the opponents and starts to yell and cry

"A product of a tortured brain..." and "Your feeling of helplessness is your best friend, savage" really do apply here... :D

nice tactic, its gonna be helpful!

This kind of comparison needs a Spirit of the Law treatment of Excel Spreadsheets in order to truly see the benefit of having multiple buildings. It does seem like a flat bonus that is proportional to the original cost of the unit/building, but it is difficult to see in this video.

i've played this game for over a decade and this is new to me keep making moar videos oldfags will love this

Seems like mostly no one knew about this. This also works on C&C 64. I just got the origin collection since my discs are all scratched. Gotta love the Shake it baby!!!! 😀

Ideas for tests: 1. how hill advantage affects damage/range 2. how durable are different garrisonable structures 3. cheapest ways to kill an apocalipse tank 4. test the walls :D

That's one ballsy conscript.

Wow, I had no idea that units and structures could get produced faster if you had multiple production buildings :o This game is so awesome! :D

Thank u for the info. friend.

very good thanks

& its on steam now Glorious

Imagine if all kirov just says 'kirov reporting!' and some will stuck at the other war factory

Me building my base peacefully and fortified my building. Making armies and tanks. Then A RAPID SCARY VOICE FROM SOVIET I KEEP HEARING AND THEN. You've been defeated. Soviet: "KIROV REPORTING"

that's one reason I like rocketeers: it's so easy to max out their build speed by building a few barracks.

What hotkey do you use to select the ready building before construction?

Good job

Nice

After 20 yrs I did not know you could build units faster with more buildings. dang.

Fun fact, when the AI have multiple construction, the function independently, but behave the same. In other words, If they have two barracks, they can train two soldiers at once. If they start with 5 contraction yards for example, they'll build 5 power plants first, then 5 barracks, then 5 ore refinaries, and so on. Also, when you destroyed one of their construction yards, they'll build 5 new contraction yards from the ground (just like other bases). If you let Yuri mind control a construction yard while the don't have the grinder, there's a high chance that this phenomena will happen. In conclusion, having multiple bases doesn't make they're building/training faster, instead, it help them build/train multiple buildings/units at once

Awesome, but I still have a question left. What if you have 4-4-4 war factories from each faction and you try to train grizzly, rhino and lasher tank one after the other? Will they be trained 12 or (indivdually) 4 WF speed?

It's a tactic that is seldom seen a lot of the time outside of experienced players. Two Allied Barracks' you basically can get GIs fast out the gate Sure they're expensive but GIs are overall the best all rounder basic infrantry compared to the competition, and in an early game rush or small maps, you can really run someone down with a large group of GIs. Deploy them folks and boom.

Gonna go back to play it again..😁

Ok so 17 conyards.then 12 barracks then 13 subyard.and 13 War factory.ok thx

The myth buster of ra2

10:45 legend has it that champ is still on the run since his independence day)

so many people didn't know this back then??? and here I thought it was pretty much a well known fact and common sense... O_O

OMG I've played this game for years and i did'nt know that!!

Thanks to this video I able to defeat Brutal AI easily Back then I can't even beat them ;v;

Is there any benefit at all for multiple battle labs?

Now it's explain why in the middle of the game, it take short time to buid base, I always have 2 base (sov and all or sov and yuri

I remember when i accidentally realized this as a kid, never knew the limit until now so back then i just random guess when it is enough.

wow nice video

But by having let say 5 war factories, it can only produces 1 tank out of it at a time yes? Let say i have 3 WF at Location A and 2 WF at Location B, Location B i set as Primary. So when i build IFV, it will only come out at Location B from only 1 WF at a time right? How do you exactly make the IFV to simultaneously come out all 5 from 5 different WFs at the same time?

Westood, how bad we need you back!

The build time of anything only depends on the cost of the unit/building and number of buildings can produce that unit/building. So it does not matter if it's buildings, naval, infantry or vehicles. cost 1000 -> 9 buildings. cost 1500 -> 11 buildings. cost 2000 -> 12 buildings. cost 2500 -> 13 buildings. cost 3000 -> 14 buildings. cost 5000 -> 17 buildings.

Now this i like

SO MUCH NOSTALGIA!

I remember when under low power unit build speed is also lowered, would multiple buildings can eventually offset the low-power speed penalties?

Damn!Never thought this is true,so I never attempted it...Thanks for the sharing!Do you play Red Alert 2 from Origins?

1.If we low power then the production will be slower right? Then how many production structures your need to build to gain maximum speed back? (In case lost MCV and you build more 12 same production structures. ) 2.Can industrial plant affect to production speed?

Its like 15 years since i started to play this game, and i didnt even know multiple buildings = faster training time.

I Needed That

So, it doesn't matter what side of a production building you have, only the quantity matters?

Huh, somethings I actually knew! Actually kinda surprised people didn't know about this but I can't remember how I found out tbh Edit: lmfao, that ending gag was class haha

Can you give me the link that you can use all buildings?

i have been playing at a disadvantage all this time Damn it

That's... actually a very good thing to test as a suprise. Thanks. Also shows, that cheats aren't the only thing that make vehicles arrive constantly. P. S.: Like a Boss... until first shot from them. P. P. S.: What's next though?

Fun fact, when AI has that number of barracks, war factories or construction yards, they will instantly build a single building multiple times as many as their producing base 😂😂 for instance, they can clone Tanya or Yuri Primes depending on how many barracks they have 😂

I never knew about this until now.