Sorry to note but you also mistaken Brian Epstein's death date as well. But thank you for saying that Yoko Ono didn't cause The Beatles to break up. An article about The Beatles: Get Back docu-series says that Yoko never caused the band to break up and that she's innocent.
@@isabellaangeline2175 I don't know why anyone feels the need to say this - yeah the media ate it up, I don't know what them "being overrated" changes? In a way, being overrated causes bands to end up being underrated because most of their fandom is surface level and full of choir kids that know like 5 songs by them and just parrot what an authority figure told them. The Beatles are very renowned but most people don't REALLY listen to their music that much so it results in a fan base that doesn't even appreciate the band for what they really are - a lot of them today are stupid conservatives that don't even agree with the messages of their songs in the first place. Now that the Beatles are accepted as a part of "music tradition", they've been co-opted by the very worst institutions. It's not like the Beatles knew how massive they'd get and knew how shallow the average person that would be fans of them would be - I think it's just pointless to make claims of being overrated. You probably also say nirvana is overrated too I'm sure, or Jimi Hendrix.
With CCR, John Fogerty wrote, “Have You Ever Seen the Rain,” where the lyrics metaphorically documented the turmoil within the band, that WAS the red flag for them.
They should have been cool about it and just said calmly, Yes John we've seen rain, tropical, heavy, cold, all sorts.. maybe went on a holiday to rain prone countries, London, Melbourne Australia, Bangladesh and filled this curiosity before it went out of hand and they made a song and dance of it
@@nolesy34 Lol, but if they had not broken up, let alone Tom Fogerty leaving the band, considering their track record, would’ve needed only a decade to be the best band of all time, not many artists can claim that they dropped 3 platinum albums in one year
@@a2zz-gk197 they are great! if not the best despite if not because of the turmoil Tell me any other artist/s seemingly having trouble and dont disband straight away *cough oasis
Deep Purple canceled a show in Cleveland that I was to attend, Winger was the opening act, they still played. My chance to see Deep Purple and it was over before it began
I'm from Ohio. Bath, Ohio near the now torn down Coliseum. I remember that happening because I had a huge crush on Winger's lead singer 😂 That sucks you never got to see them. Boy those were the days back in the 70's and 80's. 😊
I'm 65 and got to go to 4 deep purple 💜 concerts. I saw at least 75 bands at Seattle coliseum. My older brother worked there even scored backstage passes.🤯🤔🤣😂💃🔥
I'm glad it's becoming more and more accepted that the death of The Beatles manager is the most obvious reason they broke up. (not the only reason but it set so many things in motion). It caused them to form Apple, almost out of panic to manage their affairs, which did more harm than good. In order to compensate, Paul became more bossy and overbearing. John brought Yoko to the studio because being a Beatle had become arduous and even boring, he needed some stimulation. George felt more alienated than ever as the structure of the band changed. There's many complex reasons, particularly to do with the Beatles personalities and growing up, but Brian's death seemed to cause the majority of the problems.
I knew it! Many people knew it! As soon as Brian Epstein passed away, the break-up for The Beatles was beginning. Even for Gerry and the Pacemakers *(Another band Brian managed alongside The Beatles)* , they broke up when they heard about Brian's death. The Beatles tried their best to keep it together after August 27th 1967. But they knew other things that only Brian could do would collapse. John Lennon said that they were going to crumble, George Harrison said in part one of Get Back nothing was never the same ever since Eppy passed away, and Paul McCartney said the band grew negative of each other and no one was there to tell them 'Do it' since Eppy passed away in part one of Get Back.
@@sirchromiumdowns2015 - How was Courtney Kurt's Yoko: As far as I can tell, Yoko was and is a brilliant artist. Courtney and Yoko seem to me to be very, Very different artists. (I'm genuinely curious as to what you meant and I am not into causing any kind of antagonistic provocation) 🙂
And how exhausting and annoying it must have been living with kurt. Don't get me wrong, I can't stand her either, just: it takes two to dance tango. They were from the same boot, both addicts, narcissists and deserved themselves. Like sid and nancy. Bad for each other, but couldn't stay away from each other. So both were in there together and what happened wasn't really surprising. I am just really surprised that their daughter seems to be pretty healthy and normal. Poor girl. Everyone forgets the daughter in all of this. She has/had very bad parents. Doesn't matter that they were "artists", they were/are addicts and couldn't even stop, when they had her. Shame on them.
@@powerguiller I agree! Any touring band needs to consult a nutritionist. They are doing an athletic level performance every night if they play pop or rock. You can't sing, dance and play guitar without refilling with real food.
As far as the Yardbirds, that was what ended Clapton's run. He wanted to stick to pure blues, but their manager/A&R reps wanted pop singles. So when he left, and Beck came in, that's when they recorded the handful of radio-friendly songs.
I read somewhere that The Doors' post-Morrison albums' sales were decent, and the actual reason why they broke up was due to artistic differences. Keyboardist, Ray Manzarek, wanted the band to delve into jazz-infused rock, while the other two band members wanted to remain a mostly hard-rocking band.
Have you heard them? They certainly pale in comparison to the Doors albums and as to their quality it depends on your definition of "decent.". They exist because the Doors contractually owed Elektra two albums and rather than replace Jim, they handled things as a trio. The best I can say is that they are not horrible.
@@frankfrank7921 they should hire someone with a similar voice tone. The songs would still be the same, but at least with a better singer it would be slightly better
Cream was dysfunctional from the get-go. Three great musicians but atrocious and/or obnoxious human beings who could barely get along with anyone else and certainly not each other - especially Bruce and Baker.
I always forget Jim McCarty was in the Yardbirds, I've seen his act several times in 2 different bands, and one time he was in line behind me at a local music store, I never knew he was so big time famous. At the time I was watching Jim, I was not aware of his long long career and fame..but I always thought "he's way to good for this little shit hole bar".
Many stories around the disaster that was CCR's Mardigras. The one I read is that Cook & Clifford weren't "allowed" to contribute, they were "forced" to contribute. John Fogerty was angry about the band's contract that gave an equal share to all members of the band despite him writing (and singing lead) on the vast majority of the songs to that point. So he decided if he was going to continue only getting 1/3rd of the proceeds he was going to write and sing on only 1/3rd of the songs. He (and the band) had signed a bad contract and he further signed a bad addendum to the contract (giving up ownership of his songs) in order to get out of the deal.
Actually Morrison left The Doors for Paris shortly after LA Woman in December 1970 and died July 3rd 1971 It is debatable if he would of ever come back at all as he was totally burned out
@@holstorrsceadus1990 they sure did.. the sound was there it just was catching on I can imagine the first grunge sound And will ferrel busting in and saying I like that Kurt cobain starts drawling AND THAT.. BUT COMBINED
One group that SHOULD be on here is the Rolling Stones. All the drama of a band that should have quit decades ago. It appears that one Glimmer Twin is determined to outlive the other.
Yoko gets unfair blame for the breakup of the Beatles. All of them have said she was completely unresponsive for the break up, that was just a sexist media creation. You can say what you want about her - you don't have to like her, but she had no part in breaking up the band. Her presence in the studio was a symptom of their already growing apart, not the cause. Also, Nirvana didn't kickstart grunge - grunge isn't a genre for 1, they are all just rock bands heavily influenced by hardcore punk and other more avant garde acts. The existence of grunge is also a media creation that no one ever accepted back then. But nirvana was the last of the big four to join in on that scene - pearl jam technically formed later than Nirvana but half of the band that formed pearl jam was in the Seattle scene since like 1982, Nirvana wasn't even CLOSE to being the first "grunge band". Of the big 4 bands Soundgarden was around first - if you want to go and give credit to specific individuals or groups, green river were "the first" along with maybe the Melvins - but a few members of green river were also the ones who formed pearl jam so that's why I still hold that nirvana was essentially the last of the big four despite pearl jam forming after.
Lord and Paice called Quits before Coverdale said he has enough in fact Coverdale went to see Lord and Paice and said I'm leaving the Band Lord replied there is no Band to leave
She didn't make he had multiple attempt s before they even met and what about Rome 60 Rohypnols that had to punched out if she wanted him gone she could have walked away instead of reviving him nobody would have known but she loved him Kurt's childhood messed him up
A shout-out to Van Halen. Those Brothers tight-knit their entire lives. If they did have disagreements, they kept it behind closed doors and kept it unified in the eyes of the public. But other bands, such as Creedence Clearwater Revival, and The Kinks, also have brothers in the band. And childhood animosity always kept a rearing its ugly head in band matters.
I think a shout out to ACDC is in order as well,Angus and Malcolm Young were also really tight knit,I'm s7re they argued like all siblings but they worked in harmony for years
@@davidmellish3295 yeah but i was thinking of the origin of the song Like he went to a goth club in his blue singlet The bouncer was like hey you can't come in here like that! *5 minutes later IM BACK IN BLACK!
I reckon you're absolutely right about Yoko not being the reason for the end of The Beatles. I'm glad to see that as it's become tiresomely common to blame Yoko for having that amount of power and influence over those chaps who grew up together. 🙂
Same here. I actually read an article about Yoko Ono during the time when The Beatles: Get Back docu-series was coming to Disney+, it said that Yoko was innocent and she never objected anything on what the boys were doing. It took people many years to know this and all they did was blame her for the band's breakup even after John Lennon's assassination. She was mourning the loss of her husband, and she had to suffer the hate until 2021? People these days... John Lennon was right about what he said after Brian died. They were done and it was the beginning of the end. In part one of Get Back, George Harrison said 'Ever since Mr. Epstein passed away, it's never been the same.' Paul McCartney agreed with George and he added in that the band became sour at each other since Brian passed, causing them to become sick of the group because they were lacking discipline and no one was there to tell them 'Do it'. They were like four brothers without a dad or father-figure to look out for them.
@@lisettegarcia7013 - 100% understood and I mostly agree although sadly since 2021, she still does get a massive amount of negativity put towards her. What happened in 2021 that made you think the hate lasted until specifically that year and what was it that made you think it stopped? (Please excuse me if I'm being dim and have misunderstood something about that part, ha ha!) 🙂
@@NOWtheband Thank you for agreeing with me on my comment. The reason why I thought that the hate and blame on Yoko ended in 2021 was because on the website where I found the article *(I can't seem to remember what it was, I might have to look up my web history)* , there was a little paragraph that said before reading the actual article said *(Don't quote me on this)* : _'Reading this article will have you people change your minds on Yoko Ono being the reason why The Beatles broke up and after watching Get Back'_ . Even if you and/or many people might not take me seriously, please give Yoko a chance and stop blaming her. P.S. I thought people would finally stop blaming Yoko as soon as they finish watching Get Back.
@@lisettegarcia7013 - You're most welcome. It's always good and refreshing to see positive words towards Yoko! Ah ok, fair enough. I didn't see the article and as far as I could tell, there was no let-up in the negativity projected towards her in 2021 or since. I am a massive fan of her, so I began giving her a chance in the early 90's (when I first heard "Why") and have in fact never blamed her for The Beatles break up. (I wrote this particular paragraph because you addressed it to "you", i.e. me, so I felt I should set the record straight about my feelings towards her) Oh, it would have been wonderful if something as simple as a documentary could change people's mind but it evidently hasn't, sadly. It's a lovely thought though! 🙂
@@NOWtheband You're a very nice person that I've met to put positive words towards Yoko. I appreciate your kind words and I want to share something to you: I actually watched a video on here that has Yoko at a art gallery and she sang one of her screech songs, at the end she wrote a note and stick it on a tree with the other notes. Ever since I saw that and decided to respect Yoko, I began making my own screech song(s). Whenever I see Yoko on screen in Get Back or other videos where she's with John, I just smile and chuckle. I also want to say to you for saying these kind words and respecting my opinion on Yoko: You have earned my respect and you get some Peace and Love too! ✌&💗 I agree, if only people did change their minds after seeing a sort of documentary/docu-series like Get Back. The world would have been a better place.
I have no doubt that creative differences also had something to do with the breakup of the Beatles. John Lennon was reported to want their music to be more politically active rather than the "silly love songs" that Paul McCartney liked.
So is it the tension destroys the song writing or the crappy song writing causes the tensions. IMO Deep Purple died after Machine Head. They could not come close to that album. And when Gillian left the situation only got worse. I saw Tommy Bolin live, but he couldn't fix the Purple. This on the whole was a pretty good vid. I usually don't think well of this type of video, especially since I lived thru many of the events that get discussed. .
You didn’t include Badfinger and there money sucking manager Stan Polley that resulted in the death of Pete Ham. After reforming in1979 and two lps latter, John Cass did his destruction that resulted in the death of Tom Evans.
The Doors didn't end when Jim died. He was burned out some time before that! A skidmark sheriff in Florida decided to make a name for himself by prosecuting Morrison for obscenity. (Multiple photographers were taking pictures at that show, and NO, Jim didn't expose himself). Jim had a trial looming with potential jail time. He left the US after singing the tracks for LA Woman, and eventually ended up in Paris, with his love-hate girlfriend Pam Corso feeding him drugs. He had walking pneumonia and looked unrecognizable, puffy and sick. Then dead. Mysteriously dead. Surprised Fleetwood Mac isn't on the list. That band has been breaking up and making up for decades, with Lindsey Buckingham going in and out like a jack-in-the-box and getting his final goodbye notice just a few years ago. Christie McVie quit permanently some time back, and died in Nov 2022. CSN&Y didn't so much break up as deflate. Neil Young left a note on a hotel dresser and just up and disappeared, which apparently isn't all that unusual for Neil. Major musical legacy for a brief 1.5 yrs of playing together.
That's how Louis Prima had the inspiration to write yes we have no bananas, he went to the fruit bowl and was like GUYYYYS Aww come on Aww well, *writes song
I just got done w same issue from time i was 12/13 , i was writing comedy and stuff on tape, in 94 i hooked up w my friend from tech school, and wrote wit him for almost 30 years. until this last feb '23 . things started falling apart. he was at new job almost 9a-6p hos time. we in different time zones , hes a big mammas boy and has paranoid family w google and facebook. start this march i didnt feel well in a store, and when i told him on skype he rather hang with is bro, WHICH HE LIVES WITH, he lives w his WHOLE family . another issue was the vaccine and covid, they REFUSE the boosters and i cant have him here, i live w some older/elderly people in my building, as well his dad jumping up down on skype in '20 i wont let him visit durring lock down. he also was drinking wine when told not to because hes on meds. i just couldnt deal w his behavior anymore
1) Led Zeppelin-actually, Bonham's death wasn't the reason for the break up, more of an excuse. Robert Plant just wanted to experiment with music and didn't want to be locked into being in THE leading hard rock band in the world (EVERY band wanted to be Led Zep from 1973-91). 2) CCR-heard this from Fogerty himself: "Why am I writing 90% of the music and only getting 33% of the profits?" As Fogerty's post CCR string of hits proves, the man can write great music. 3) The Doors-like the fictional band, Eddie and the Crusers, The Doors were famous because of the collaboration of Ray (lyrics) and Jim (music). Without Jim, there wasn't music any more as post Jim albums proved. Jim just had that "Midas touch."
I think you mean Jim (lyrics) and Ray, Robby, and John (music). Morrison wrote the lyrics for nearly all of their music. Robby Kreiger wrote some of the lyrics on Light my Fire, but mostly it was Jim.
I agree with you about Zeppelin. After Bonham's passing, they still had concerts to play. They did them with Carl Palmer. If they really wanted to keep the band going, they could have done it with him, as he was as good as Bonham. By the time Out Door was recorded, Jones & Plant were writing most of the songs & they didn't sound anything like the earlier ones...
Marc Stevens Carl Palmer was as good as John Bonham? I hope you were chuckling as you wrote that. No disrespect to Palmer but he was no Bonham and could never have filled in for him.
@@lyndoncmp5751 No, I'm actually being serious about this. Although Bonham was a great drummer in the late sixties and early seventies with Led, after Graffiti, neither him, nor Page had much working for them. It would have been great to hear what Jones/Plant songs would have emerged in later years, had they stayed together, with whatever drummer. Really wasn't crazy about Bonham's drumming. Thought he would have fit better in a hard rock band, rather than a blues-based one. It's only my opinion.
With the Beatles there were 6 main reasons for the breakup 1 Death of Brian Epstein. Brian Epstein's death in late summer 1967 was a hard blow for the band. He was the glue that held the band together, and he helped arbitrate differences among them. With him gone, and no one replacing him, the Beatles were set adrift alone. Projects such as the Magical Mystery Tour film would likely have been reeled in, or at least given a different direction. The formation of their own production company the next year would also likely have been more grounded. Perhaps the Let it Be film would have been postponed and not set so close to their last album. The pressure to come up with and record material in a matter of month, and having no real idea of what the finale was to be, added to tensions already brewing. 2 Yoko Ono. The members of the group had rows in the past. McCartney walked out on the recording of She Said She Said in 1966. But the actual period where the Beatles began famously not getting along coincided exactly when Yoko Ono came in the picture in mid 1968. Ono was very manipulative and loved what the Beatles did for Lennon but also despised the band for how she wasn't a part of it. She seeded a growing negative attitude in Lennon about being a Beatle, and introduced him to heroin which further distracted him 3 Apple. The Beatles jumped head first into the world of business when they set up their own production company Apple. Almost immediately they began hemorrhaging money with frivolous pursuits. They approached it with rose tinted glasses, tossing cash at anyone who had any idea or little idea at all. The start of Apple also coincided with Yoko Ono's appearance, and so could also have been responsible for the bands discord at that time. 4 Allen Klein. A feud began in the band about who their new manager would be. McCartney was out-voted 3 to 1 in favor of Allen Klein, a slick tough talking New Yorker. Klein promised them higher profits but was really something of a con-man. His appointment created a further wedge between the two band leaders. 5 The Toronto Rock and Roll Revival Festival. Lennon was convinced to board a plane and headline the Toronto Rock and Roll Revival festival on short notice. He was very nervous and going through the pains of heroin addiction at the time in September 1969. It wasn't a chance that a week later he announced his departure from the band, and never returned. Playing with other musicians gave him ideas about his own independence, and he now felt confident enough to act on his previous unhappiness with the Beatles. 6 Phil Spector. John Lennon was pleased with Phil Spector's work on his Instant Karma single in February 1970. Up to then, Spector had been somewhat of a recluse. With this in mind, Lennon persuaded the powers to be to appoint Spector as the new producer of the as yet released Get Back album, which would soon be renamed Let it Be. The Bulk of the recording had occurred more than year earlier, and although the Beatles had moved on and recorded new material, they still wished for the album to be mixed and released. The slow process of the film's progress also shelved the album and pushed back it's release. Spector, without consent, added flourishes to various songs to mixed reaction of the members of the group. Lennon was somewhat pleased, as he had misgivings about the material and it's chaotic mess in his opinion, and thought Spector had pulled off an impossible feat of salvaging the album. McCartney on the other hand was furious. He hadn't worked to the heights of his achievements at the top of the industry to be told what he can or can't do in his own music. Refer to number 4, when Klein backed up all of Spector's embellishments, and turned a deaf ear to McCartney's complaints. This only compounded things further, and coupled with Lennon's absence, McCartney felt the band could go no further.
The fact that kid rock can mow down a row of cans with an automatic weapon is not impressive. I'd like to see him try that with a single shot. I bet his aim would be shit considering how high he looks.
Not to mention there is obviously someone else on the right also shooting at the cans, and seeing how they both missed two cases..... he's a pud whacker.
The fault lines were massive even by 1967 and Sgt Peppers. It’s remarkable the band made even the couple albums they did after that considering how sick everyone was of Paul.
@@PastPerspectives3 they got banded into a studio and were at it for hours... making it seem like work probably gave them a target so they concentrated on it not thinking about squabbles for a rare few hours What im wondering is how those post Sgt pepper hours dont seem robot like and not connect
@@nickkontos By 1977 they were pretty much doomed. The arguments and disagreements had become common and big enough to where they couldn’t really recover.
@@NBrixH Yeah I don't disagree with your point, but after Roger they had a pretty successful run imo. Of course it can't beat 1973 - 1981, but still they kept going strong, despite losing the most important member.
@@PastPerspectives3 First of all, I couldn't care less, let alone worry about it. I just would expect "an authority" on the subject to know certain basic facts. I'm sorry that you don't agree or care about details like that.
Dont blame the Pixies at all. Open for the 2nd most boring band of all times ( Coldplay are on the top),its not a good thing to do to for your brain cells and sanity. Poor Pixies,have to endure thousands of Boring people watching their act,must take a lots of courage,for sure.
Ch Ch Chelmsford. The so called (because it doesn't apply to the coasts where we also pronounce the Ch) American pronunciation is for hillbillies who don't live anywhere near a Chelmsford of any note.
And we're friggin glad👍👏👏👏!!! No Limeyland people, for us!! It's bad enough we're stuck, with the British descent RepubliCONs, screwing everything up here.
The Beatles sensed that music was as changing faster than they were, and that their creative spell was coming to an end. 1970 is a sharp line in modern music history. You can play almost any song and ask anyone, before or after?
@@rogerrendzak8055 Anita Pallenberg and Brian Jones (Rolling Stones) - both drug users. Keith steals Anita from Brian, Brian gets kicked out of the band, on July 3, 1969 Brian found dead in his own swimming pool.
