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"Red Napoleon" - The USSR's Military Genius (Mikhail Tukhachevsky) 

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Sorry about the audio mixing issues...
0:00 - Intro
0:44 - Narrated Introduction
1:26 - Context
1:50 - Early life (sorta)
2:27 - WWI
4:02 - Civil War
6:31 - "Brutal as any Bolshevik"
8:35 - Reforming the army
10:27 - Prosecution
12:04 - Aftermath
12:34 - Summary/Conclusion
Intro Song: Slavery and Suffering performed by the Red Army Choir
Song used throughout the video: Dance of the Knights/Montagues and Capulets by Sergei Prokofiev
Outro Song: Souliko performed by the Red Army Choir
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@NotableFigures
@NotableFigures 3 года назад
PLEASE READ!!! My channel just went from getting 24 to 10,000 views per day in the last week, (~12/16/21 for those of you in the future,) and with this new attention I have found that there is a lot that needs to be corrected in these videos. This video was poorly fact checked and I sincerely apologize for that. In the meantime, continue to correct me (but spare my feewings) and I will do my best to keep up! Thanks for your patience. If you liked this video you'll also enjoy my video on Konstantin Rokossovsky. My notes: 0:32 Yezhov was the man who prosecuted Tukhachevsky. 2:50 Donetsk??? 3:37 Remy Roure was a journalist and another prisoner held at Ingolstadt. Much of what we know of Tukhachevsky during that time comes from him. 5:22 Despite the Ukrainian flag here, the previously contested (between the Poles and Ukrainians) city was actually ceded to the Poles some months before Stalin besieged it in return for cooperation against the Soviets. The Poles weren't actually "occupying" the city. (Thanks _Kruczysław_ 501) 5:59 Kalinin, who briefly appears in this scene, was not a member of the Politburo at this time. 6:52 He said the funny word! 7:44 Pictured is the DP-27 machine gun. It is not actually known what specific weapon was actually used, so I just went with this one used in that era. 13:27 I have no morals.
@baryka2015
@baryka2015 2 года назад
Tuchaczewski Army was beaten 1920 by Poles .They crossed border of East Prussia at that time and were saved by "German friends".Dzierżyński was a Pole , but enthusiast of bolshevism and hero of Soviet Union . Dzierżyński chief of CZEKA was responsable for bolshevik teror and deads many innocent people. Dzierżyński in 1921 in Riga ( place of peace took between Poland and Bolshevik state)asked Polish Minister Wasilewski :" What in Warsaw think about him? Polish Minister answered him: "They are hate you ". Dzierżyński asked :"Why I was kiling Russians not Poles.🤣🤣🤣.
@NotableFigures
@NotableFigures 2 года назад
@@bogdan9057 yes
@HistorywithHannibal
@HistorywithHannibal 2 года назад
Loved the music in the first 45 seconds of the video
@drgeorgek
@drgeorgek Год назад
Up and onwards Comrade… great videos
@kimobrien.
@kimobrien. 11 месяцев назад
@@drgeorgekHistroy told from the point of view of a clown.
@power2ix605
@power2ix605 2 года назад
It's a shame he died before Barbarossa, he would have been a good rival to Rommel
@mikefay5698
@mikefay5698 Год назад
He was shot by the Beastial Stalin!
@user-hd1lt1qb3e
@user-hd1lt1qb3e Год назад
почитай про безоткатные орудия Курчевского
@user-hd1lt1qb3e
@user-hd1lt1qb3e Год назад
@@mikefay5698 очередной "эксперт" по советской истории.
@roberttate4943
@roberttate4943 9 месяцев назад
Rommel had nothing to do with Barborassa. He fought on the Western front,and North Africa.
@tomwanks9123
@tomwanks9123 8 месяцев назад
@@user-hd1lt1qb3eStalin literally killed Tukhachevsky, though? Like, are you saying he didn't?
@Fabrissable
@Fabrissable 2 года назад
Tuchachevsky, Kamenev, Trotsky, Zinoyev and Lenin: Mocking Staling for his fuck-up Stalin 15 years later: I'm gonna do what is called a pro-gamer move
@maximmatusevich3971
@maximmatusevich3971 2 года назад
Problem is it wasnt a screw up. If you read the sources you will 1 find contradictory statements and 2 lenin himself order a reinforcement of the south western front. Stalin obliged.
@pilsudski36
@pilsudski36 11 дней назад
It is alleged that Tukachevsky shouted out "I should have taken Warsaw if not for Stalin", a observation that was to cost him and his family their lives during the purge of 1937.
@agentukraine007
@agentukraine007 2 года назад
Mistake: the whites didn’t only fight to put the tsar back, they were a collection of different factions that were United against the reds but haven’t firmly decided on what the future of Russia should look like
@meijiturtle3814
@meijiturtle3814 2 года назад
Agreed. They ranged from the most reactionary monarchists to Mensheviks and SRs
@farerolobos9382
@farerolobos9382 2 года назад
They were like the rebels/terrorists in Syria... In other words, a perfect recipe for failure....
@mikefay5698
@mikefay5698 Год назад
Black Reaction?
@mikefay5698
@mikefay5698 Год назад
@@farerolobos9382 Yes but the Allies sent in 17 Military forces plus the Japanese. Kommisar for War Leon Trotsky defeated them all with the Red Army. The US invaded and Churchill used poison Gas on the Red Soldiers!
@ultimatestuff7111
@ultimatestuff7111 2 месяца назад
Could have been kolchak kerensky or savinkov most likely
@skymaster4743
@skymaster4743 2 года назад
Funfact: Tukhachevsky's grandfather Alexander was an Imperial Russian Army colonel who was killed in Warsaw fighting Polish rebels during the November Uprising (1830-31). 90 years later, he was defeated by the Poles outside the gates of Warsaw.
@memedrop3235
@memedrop3235 2 года назад
Family traditions huh?
@trenttoski125
@trenttoski125 2 года назад
Wow that hits hard damn
@vladimirthegreen6097
@vladimirthegreen6097 2 года назад
And he's family descendent of East polish aristocracy
@greaterbelgiummapping1266
@greaterbelgiummapping1266 Год назад
great grandfather actually but still Nice fact
@mikefay5698
@mikefay5698 Год назад
The Polish Soviet war was lost by Stalin besieging Lwow and insubordinate to Trotsky his boss. He was instructed to break off the siege of Lwow and aid Tukhachevsky. Stalin was rebuked by Lenin and hated by Tukhachevsky reputedly the best commander and Military theorist in all of Europe. Stalin had him shot in the notorious decapitation of the Red Army leadership of 1937. Lenin wanted the Revolution to spread to Germany through Poland. The only time to my knowledge Trotsky and Stalin agreed that the Poles were not ready for Revolution! Still the prize of advanced Germany together with the Russian Revolution was a prize indeed and the end of Capitalism and an eventual Soviet Union of the Planet. Sadly the Planet is mired in the present hideous junk of callapsing Capitalism and Global War in the offing!
@gellertgulyas1874
@gellertgulyas1874 2 года назад
Fun fact: Tukhachevsky was of Pagan belief, remarking that Paganism would have been a better fit rather than atheism for the Soviet Union and destroying christianity, though that was mostly mocked by his comrades.
@wetselsvinopas538
@wetselsvinopas538 2 года назад
absolute bullshit and fake
@benjaminkeys6887
@benjaminkeys6887 2 года назад
@@wetselsvinopas538 "Tukhachevsky's apparent neo-paganism was also corroborated by another prisoner at Ingolstadt, Nikolay Alexandrovich Tsurikov [ru], who recalled that he once saw a "scarecrow" in the corner of Tukhachevsky's cell, and upon asking him as to what it was, Tukhachevsky responded (to what Tsurikov interpreted as heavy sarcasm), that it was an effigy of Yarilo (the Slavic god of vegetation, fertility and springtime), which he had created during Shrovetide." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Tukhachevsky
@arthurg.calixto3338
@arthurg.calixto3338 2 года назад
@@benjaminkeys6887 Dude was way younger and had completely different beliefs later in his life when he said this quote. We can't tell if he really had those beliefs when he became an actual general.
@benjaminkeys6887
@benjaminkeys6887 2 года назад
@@arthurg.calixto3338 If you check out the link, you’ll find that he discussed these things with other members of the communist leadership - including Stalin. They laughed at him, of course. Now if he actually held these beliefs, maybe - but Paganism is actually relatively common in Russia, as well as the Baltics. It wouldn’t be shocking nor surprising, is what I am essentially saying.
@rdallas81
@rdallas81 2 года назад
What came out of it? Israel. Germanys Nazis and Stalins Reds all ended with just Israel as its birth piece.
@GaetanoBonaparte
@GaetanoBonaparte 2 года назад
He could be a new Napoleon, in a bit time he did more than every general in ww2
@Pvt.Conscriptovich
@Pvt.Conscriptovich 2 года назад
не говори чепухи, ты даже русский не знаешь.
@GaetanoBonaparte
@GaetanoBonaparte 2 года назад
@@Pvt.Conscriptovich yes, i don't know russian, anyway i have love Soviet History. Mikhail was a innovator in military theory and a quite good organizator. If you refer about his repretion, i will say that every generals are ruthless.
@user-jn1kr1xo4l
@user-jn1kr1xo4l 2 года назад
can you explain to me what exactly his genius was? In practice, it has shown itself to be rather ambiguous, let's put it mildly.
@GaetanoBonaparte
@GaetanoBonaparte 2 года назад
@@user-jn1kr1xo4l Mikhail was good to learn what happened around him, he was promotor of military mechanization of Soviet army, indeed he was hated by cavalry generals, 'cause he wanted a modernization of soviet mobility.
@matvejgrin4559
@matvejgrin4559 2 года назад
@@GaetanoBonaparte Except he wasn't, lets take Poland by example. His concept of mobility was just rushing without taking supply into account (the most important thing in warfare) and by the time he was advancing on Warsaw he didn't have any suplies left and he took a severe beating there. Then Kronstadt, after Poland he must have learned that just throwing your soldiers at the enemy isn't a good idea, the problem here is that he didn't learn from Poland and he still used the outdated mass charge against the rebels and suffered heavy casualties. Comparing him to Napoleon accounting these facts is pretty problematic. (In case of spelling mistakes sorry English is not my native language)
@MikeJones-qn1gz
@MikeJones-qn1gz 2 года назад
Bet Stalin was missing him in June 1941
@peterthegreat4663
@peterthegreat4663 2 года назад
Not at all. He acted too brutal with bad strategy planning. But there is still a lot of better generals that Stalin could've used that are gone.
@ezekieloloriegbe7136
@ezekieloloriegbe7136 2 года назад
Sure.
@dabome4001
@dabome4001 2 года назад
@@peterthegreat4663 when he acted like that?
@madgavin7568
@madgavin7568 2 года назад
@@peterthegreat4663 Like whom? Alexander Yegorov? Vasily Blyukher? August Kork? Iona Yakir? Vitaly Primakov? All competent generals/commanders by Soviet standards who were purged.
@mikefay5698
@mikefay5698 Год назад
Stalin expected to be shot but Molotov and Company were Stalinist to the core. Difficult to think of anything Stalin ever won. He trusted no one except one man Adolph Hitler!
@naseankershaw3071
@naseankershaw3071 2 года назад
This video is now TNO Fanbase territory. Tukhachevsky Gang rise up!!!....
@foundationgamer9771
@foundationgamer9771 Год назад
Tukhachecsky to rival Russian Communist warlords be like: 'All I'm saying is, give war a chance!'
@thegillfishguy1
@thegillfishguy1 2 года назад
I was surprised to see only 135 subscribers, this production quality's already up around the 100k sub mark imo (bar the audio mixing issues you mentioned) Subbed and hoping to see more, keep it up!!
@NotableFigures
@NotableFigures 2 года назад
Thank you! You're very kind.
@davidplowman6149
@davidplowman6149 2 года назад
This is the first of his videos I’ve seen. Obviously, he gets a sub!
@MrErdem95
@MrErdem95 2 года назад
How can you question a man who is extremely brutal when it comes to revolt suppressing. Obviously Stalin's bitterness from 1920 came back and haunted Tukhachevsky to his death.
@WM-gf8zm
@WM-gf8zm 2 года назад
not bitterness but tukhachevskys conspiracy
@mikefay5698
@mikefay5698 Год назад
@@WM-gf8zm What conspiracy? Tell us do!
@ahmetunlu1318
@ahmetunlu1318 2 года назад
Great video, keep up the good work!
@history9034
@history9034 2 года назад
You forgot to say he is the grandfather of Soviet (Russian) paratroopers. He created them. Russia was the First Nation to test with paratroopers during the inter war period. But Germany was the First Nation to use them in combat.
@a.p.3004
@a.p.3004 2 года назад
And the Cretans of Greece were the ones who made sure that the Germans would NEVER use them again. See : Battle for Crete. May 1941.
@history9034
@history9034 2 года назад
@@a.p.3004 But of course still lost and majority of the troops there were British and commonwealth troops. Without them Crete would’ve been taken a lot quicker.
@a.p.3004
@a.p.3004 2 года назад
@@history9034 Majority of troops were Colonial. It was the Cretan's themselves men, women, teenagers that faces the german paratroopers.
@a.p.3004
@a.p.3004 2 года назад
@@history9034 Of course the British forces fought, BUT their government didn't give them enough supplies.
@history9034
@history9034 2 года назад
@@a.p.3004 but of course abandoned Crete because they knew it was over.
@The.Rooster
@The.Rooster 2 года назад
Quick, simple, full of history, enjoyable and of course well made. Thank you for this video
@yeetusdacanible8257
@yeetusdacanible8257 2 года назад
I can’t believe you didn’t talk about his ideological differences, as he believed in a sort of pan-Slavic paganistic socialism, far different from Stalin’s communism and even going as far as suggesting a return of the tsar
@NotableFigures
@NotableFigures 2 года назад
I've heard about the former but not the latter
@arrow1414
@arrow1414 2 года назад
@@NotableFigures The return of the Tsar thing sounds like propaganda to smear him and help justify his execution.
@canthi109
@canthi109 2 года назад
@@arrow1414 yeah
@themolepeople955
@themolepeople955 2 года назад
No wonder he was purged
@UwU-xk5cx
@UwU-xk5cx 2 года назад
His believes changed a shit ton during his life, he went from tribal paganism to pan Slavic superiority paganism, to socialist paganism to trotskyist internationalism and then when he got to be field Marshall he kind of calmed down and decided to follow whichever socialist tendency was used in the Ussr in order to keep his status
@AAR004
@AAR004 2 года назад
We learned about this guy in history class, Soviet history is just really interesting
@dongately2817
@dongately2817 2 года назад
Its like a dark twisted soap opera.
@eikoyaa
@eikoyaa 2 года назад
You definitely deserve more subscribers.
@cheemsburger7261
@cheemsburger7261 2 года назад
I like how tukhachevsky trolled de Gaulle and everyone at the prison
@mikefay5698
@mikefay5698 Год назад
He escaped De Gaull didn't!
@power2ix605
@power2ix605 2 года назад
The civil war was not only the red and white army, there were the green and black armies
@jeffclark7888
@jeffclark7888 Год назад
True.
@mikefay5698
@mikefay5698 Год назад
@@jeffclark7888 Trotsky simply called them Bandits!
@jeffclark7888
@jeffclark7888 Год назад
@@mikefay5698 true.
@lanaharlow2515
@lanaharlow2515 2 года назад
First of your videos that I've serendipitously found. Keep up the good work; just subscribed
@stefanthorpenberg887
@stefanthorpenberg887 2 года назад
Tukhachevskij was the highest commander in the sovjet/polish war, 27 years old. Already there the differences between him and Stalin can be seen. Attacking Warzaw and invade Poland could be a step to start an attack against Berlin, where german workers were supposed to support the Red Army. The idea of an European revolution was the base of Trotsky’s permanent revolution, which doubted that russian peasants should support the revolution. Instead support was necessary to get from more advanced countries and the developed working class there. Stalin instead put forward the idea of socialism in one country. Things didn’t go Tukachevsky’s way; polish workers didn’t support the red Army and they lost outside Warzaw. The trial in 1937 against Tukachevsky was probably (?) built on a false rumour planted by Gestapo (?) that he had tried to negotiate support for a coup d’etat that should take down Stalin. The murder of 600 000 citizens, almost all of them could mpletely innocent, after the killing of Tukachevskij is a national tragedy for Russia.
@mikefay5698
@mikefay5698 Год назад
Excellent Comrade Thorpenburg. Carrying the Revolution to Poland was Lenin's idea to come closer to the German Workers. To my knowledge it is the only time Stalin and Trotsky agreed that Poland was not yet ready. Stalin's insubordination to Trotsky's explicit instructions to move from Lviv and aid Tukachevsky probably caused the Catastrophy. With a German Russian Soviet World Revolution was quite possible. The Neo Con terror of a possible United Europe is possibly the cause today of the Ukrainian Horror. Still as Lenin noted it is impossible for the European Bourgeois to Unite Europe only the Working Class can achieve this Union with Socialism!
@mikefay5698
@mikefay5698 Год назад
Excellent Mr Thorpenburg Bravo!
@vaporwave2359
@vaporwave2359 2 года назад
RIP Tukhachevsky
@TheRedKing247
@TheRedKing247 2 года назад
I do think Zhukov is the better general of the two, especially considering Zhukov never resorted to the brutal methods Tukhachevsky. However, it's undeniable that Tukhachevsky walked so Zhukov could run.
@brandonstevenson9592
@brandonstevenson9592 2 года назад
Eh the battle of Rzhev would dare to differ
@lukaskuraj8635
@lukaskuraj8635 2 года назад
@@brandonstevenson9592 the battles tukachevsky won during ww2 would date to differ
@MrRrusiii
@MrRrusiii 2 года назад
tno brained
@bartdamesworth5406
@bartdamesworth5406 2 года назад
Zhukov never resorted to brutal methods? Lol baby. He would march infantry over mine fields to clear the mines - but actions like this were consistent with the Stalinist system of terror and the total disregard for human life, so he was a product of the system he lived under. Zhukov's disastrous Operation Mars in late 1942 resulted in 500,000 Soviet casualties, and nothing to show for it.
@MrRrusiii
@MrRrusiii 2 года назад
@@bartdamesworth5406 It's easy to hold a moral high ground when it's not your towns, villages and cities being torched and your people and national identity facing extermination. It would be immoral to lose the war. It would've been immoral to be as pathetic and vulnerable of a state as Russia had been at the end of the first world war. It is the ultimate narcissism to imply that you would have done any better in the same position, when you more than likely would have cocked it up
@barryobee1544
@barryobee1544 2 года назад
Good video, very interesting. Learned something Thanks!
@javierortiz2640
@javierortiz2640 2 года назад
Keep up to great work!
@LucasCastro-ox6qi
@LucasCastro-ox6qi 2 года назад
a very good channel, subscribed and wish you grow to the hundred thousand /million subscribers till the end of next year
@saooran7364
@saooran7364 2 года назад
Kudos for providing sources! There is unacceptable number of large historical channels in youtube that expect to be taken for granted.
@Fryepod3628
@Fryepod3628 2 года назад
Damn this is a good video. *subbed*
@alpharius6206
@alpharius6206 2 года назад
White army was quite heterogenous in terms of their beliefs, and often confronted each other due to that fact. Monarchist part of them was perhaps one of the least popular. So it would be more correct to say that white movement was for reinstating the parliament "Uchreditelnoye Sobranie" ,which was arrested by the revolutionary council during the winter palace assault. But even these "republican" forces of white army were different in their beliefs. According to emigre russian philosopher Ivan Ilyin, the leaders of these republican factions were supporting something more like proto-fascist state, rather than democratic institutions, and it would've been more likely for Russia to become one of the first fascist states, be it a military junta like Spain had, or a classic dictatorship.
@Tonyx.yt.
@Tonyx.yt. 2 года назад
better than stalinism anyways...
@WM-gf8zm
@WM-gf8zm 2 года назад
@@Tonyx.yt. nah
@elemperadordemexico
@elemperadordemexico 2 года назад
@@WM-gf8zm yah
@kittycap420
@kittycap420 2 года назад
this is amazing
@boder9092
@boder9092 2 года назад
Great content
@richardshiggins704
@richardshiggins704 2 года назад
Short and to the point . Well done . A barbaric system that ruined the lives of so many . Tuchachevsky was a product of this 'dog eats dog' system . His fatal mistake was to criticise Stalin for the Warsaw debacle ; Comrade Stalin was vengeful and even worse had a long memory .
@ihavenomouthandimustmeme
@ihavenomouthandimustmeme 3 года назад
This was a great video, congrats! I hope you keep making them, this channel could really blow up, well done!
@NotableFigures
@NotableFigures 3 года назад
Thanks! That really means a lot.
@user-dk8nt4dy8h
@user-dk8nt4dy8h 2 года назад
Really nice video. I love your music taste. It also fits the theme
@gofar5185
@gofar5185 2 года назад
how he escaped in a german special prison for problematic prisoners make him an intelligent wizard...
@LeftistUprising
@LeftistUprising Год назад
What is the name of this classic song playing intermittently?
@NotableFigures
@NotableFigures Год назад
Dance of the Knights- prokofiev
@mikemikeetoo9094
@mikemikeetoo9094 2 года назад
The end song is beautiful
@dlf7789
@dlf7789 2 года назад
A reminder that even if Mikhail had taken warsaw with aid from Stalin it likely would have fallen due to lack of defensive measures and manpower. Stalin made the correct choice to retrieve a smaller but more tactically valuable location while Tukachevsky wanted a crippling blow which was not fully possible due to the fact the Red Army was fighting with not its entire military capability. Arguably a slower more methodical approach would have likely secured the war in Soviet favor instead of expending unessicary casualties in a bid for a politically valuable target. Of course, with Trotsky being a military superior to Stalin we can begin to understand why Lenin despite having no military experience up to that point would side with Trotsky and his associate, despite Trotsky's proficiency at managing supplies and troop movements he like many early Russian military leaders were extremely wasteful with their resources and manpower, its the same reason struggles like the Kronstadt rebellion were such bloody battles, there was little care for how soldiers actually faired once they reached combat. Also minor nitpick but Stalin was not the dictator of the Soviet Union but more or less a figurehead outside of his role, there were far more powerful people in the Government such as Beria, the main reason we get the idea of dictatorship from Stalin is the fact that he was so popular with people during the war as well as having a strong historic connection to the countries creation, despite the fact he often attempted to resign from his position.
@peterthegreat4663
@peterthegreat4663 2 года назад
Beria had more power than Stalin? Always thought Stalin had the most power.
@dannya1854
@dannya1854 2 года назад
Tankies writing essays on RU-vid again to repeat Stalin apologist talking points.
@dimasakbar7668
@dimasakbar7668 2 года назад
Beria had more power than Stalin? Now thats a wild claim. If you said Zhukov i may believe you, but Beria? Thats a long stretch. Stalin merely tolerate Beria, for he was useful at the time, until he was not.
@maximmatusevich3971
@maximmatusevich3971 2 года назад
@@dannya1854 Mega cope right there buddy.
@maximmatusevich3971
@maximmatusevich3971 2 года назад
I disagree with Beria's role but what was not mentioned was lenins directive to reinforce the southwestern front, with stalin obeying the request.
@krzysztofr899
@krzysztofr899 2 года назад
4:50 Polish Army simply cut off communication lines , and read all messages sent to Russian commanders. Pilsudski wrote about Tukhachevsky :due the war he sent orders like there is no reality.
@piotrekmajkowski5422
@piotrekmajkowski5422 2 года назад
Lwów-sowieckie miasto okupowane prez Polaków. Gość nie wie co mówi. Nie zna historii.
@wolfgang6517
@wolfgang6517 2 года назад
The white army did not fight to restore the Czar. The white army de facto goal was to overthrow the bolchevikes, there wasant really anything else that united them besides that
@DzondzulaKarakondzula
@DzondzulaKarakondzula 2 года назад
the audio in the video is so obnoxious, keep it even, it get's too loud...
@sssleyer
@sssleyer 2 года назад
Can you please make the music sections louder and the speaking sections more quite - I like to have this commercial feel to videos!
@raylast3873
@raylast3873 2 года назад
Regarding the Invasion of Poland, it is crucial that this was a counteroffensive to the Polish attempt to invade the USSR, and not a unilateral attack on the part of the Soviets, something which the Soviet leadership of this time would never have considered given their extremely vulnerable strategic situation. Even so, the question of whether to follow up the successful defense with a counterinvasion was extremely controversial: Trotsky was against it, Lenin was in favor, mainly due to the strategic possibilities a victory would have opened up, especially the possibility of linking up with revolutionary forces in Germany.
@FreeYourselvesGloballyProject
@FreeYourselvesGloballyProject 2 года назад
I don’t know if voroshilov was the one advocating for cavalry, I think the one doing that was Budonny.
@NotableFigures
@NotableFigures 2 года назад
I believe both of those two supported cavalry primacy before the war, Voroshilov just adapted quicker.
@ohnoa2
@ohnoa2 2 года назад
i read that buyonny tried to get voroshilov to back him on cavalry but voroshilov actually was in favour of mechanization but he had personal beef with tukachevsky
@FreeYourselvesGloballyProject
@FreeYourselvesGloballyProject 2 года назад
@@NotableFigures thanks for the answer
@MrRjh63
@MrRjh63 2 года назад
Not sure why anyone would advocate for cavalry anymore after WW1 showed just how horribly dated they were.
@troysnell9547
@troysnell9547 2 года назад
@@MrRjh63 Cavalry remained effective on the eastern front of WW1. While the western front bogged down into the bloody stalemate of trench warfare, the eastern front remained a war of movement with cavalry used in many of their more traditional roles.
@indefiniteregent
@indefiniteregent 2 года назад
Thanks for making these videos, it’s a huge relief from all the typical “Churchill and FDR saved the world against evil” perspective that seems to permeate particularly the American historical narrative in my experience. Not to say that the Nazis weren’t evil, but that evil and good are more nuanced than people think and the world is a complicated place with many diverse cultures with vastly different views on everything from morality, legality, spirituality, and so on. While morality certainly plays a part in it all, I personally see figures such as Mikhail Tukhachevsky as essential pieces of the puzzle in the grand scheme of things. Stalin, Napoleon, Genghis Khan, they all seem larger than life, but the truth is that these men had their own thousands of administrators, generals. captains, merchants, engineers, and a host of so many other events behind them that led them and their empires/peoples to greatness. Life in general is so vast and powerful that to try to think of every single event, person, and deed that led to this one single piece of history is impossible for the human mind to even attempt to not only comprehend but visualize and understand.
@YUZ123
@YUZ123 2 года назад
Awesomw videos! Keep going you're doing it right🙏🙏
@redrusski7180
@redrusski7180 2 года назад
There's a few things I think need correcting in this video. 4:46 Tukhachevsky was fighting in the Caucuses, not Crimea at this time. 4:56 I don't really think going so fast you can't supply your army is really that "genius" of a move. Especially since he would get his ass handed to him at Warsaw, which also puts his genius into question. 8:14 The chemical weapon thing is a huge exaggeration. They were used a total of 3 times and never really had any big impact. 9:16 It is a myth that Tukhachevsky invented deep operation, it was actually Vladimir triandafillov who did l, Tukhachevsky just helped spread it.
@user-if7wd4dy7x
@user-if7wd4dy7x 2 года назад
Tukhachevsky was not that great . He simply was the only one supporting the industrialization of the red army , Voroshilov and budyonny wanted a Cossack like army thats why tukhachevsky is considered a "genius"
@NotableFigures
@NotableFigures 2 года назад
Hi, thanks for bringing these points up! I published this video more than half a year ago so a lot of my knowledge on this topic has since fallen out of my head, but I'll do my best to address some of these points. 1. To my knowledge, this is the same event. Tukhachevsky was fighting in January of 1920 in Kuban (the Caucuses) and Denikin's forces retreated to the Crimean peninsula. (The two regions are adjacent) 2. Chemical weapons are still weapons of mass destruction, and whether or not their use was effective is (to me) secondary to the fact that such weapons were used against his own countrymen 3. The degree of Tukhachevsky's involvement in the development of deep operation theories is still contested, so it was wrong of me to speak so definitely. However, because Tukhachevsky fell out of favor with Stalin and the Soviet government, it's not unreasonable to believe that the lack of documentation on both sides was a result of his achievements being undermined (as was common among purge victims). Regardless, Tukhachevsky certainly pioneered the idea. Again, thanks for bringing these up. There's always a possibility that I'm wrong about these so if I am I'd genuinely appreciate being corrected. Thanks for being civil as well!
@desolatortrooper7196
@desolatortrooper7196 2 года назад
I do believe it was because Stalin wanted to take Lwov before Thukachevsky take Warsaw. Meanwhile the poles launched a desperate counter attack and won against a lot of odds. Should saud to Budienny (wrong spelling) to help Thukachevsky then he would probably have won. But i'm not an expert so i can be wrong
@stroqus3830
@stroqus3830 2 года назад
Bullshit, all your points are false
@user-if7wd4dy7x
@user-if7wd4dy7x 2 года назад
@@desolatortrooper7196 no it was Lenins fault that the polish campaign failed . Unfortunately the red army was not well organized
@alinebaruchi1936
@alinebaruchi1936 2 года назад
It's not as easy as you may think. People fight a lot about religious politics. A LOT
@EdVarkarion
@EdVarkarion 2 года назад
Lwow was actually at the time a Polish city.
@UwU-xk5cx
@UwU-xk5cx 3 года назад
I’m pretty sure most people who know him come from hoi4
@NotableFigures
@NotableFigures 3 года назад
I've heard of the game before but haven't really gotten around to playing it, I might try it some day.
@UwU-xk5cx
@UwU-xk5cx 3 года назад
@@NotableFigures it’s a pretty decent game if you like map games, the community is rlly memey tho, so if you don’t like historical events being memeified I wouldn’t recommend it, although if you like dark historical humor and of course strategy games it’s a pretty decent game
@NotableFigures
@NotableFigures 3 года назад
@@UwU-xk5cx hoi4 now in steam library lesss go
@grugamersriseup7299
@grugamersriseup7299 2 года назад
@@NotableFigures PS!!! After you download hoi4 the focus get a girlfriend and go outside are locked
@NotableFigures
@NotableFigures 2 года назад
@@grugamersriseup7299 Much to my chagrin, the "RU-vid Channel" and "get a girlfriend" focuses are already mutually exclusive.
@soolking8970
@soolking8970 3 года назад
great video my friend ;)
@NotableFigures
@NotableFigures 3 года назад
Thank you my friend (next one coming soon by the way)
@Deibi078
@Deibi078 2 года назад
Very cool
@NotableFigures
@NotableFigures 2 года назад
thank u kanye
@janslavik5284
@janslavik5284 2 года назад
4:52 That is cursed beyond all limitations XD
@michaelmallal9101
@michaelmallal9101 2 года назад
I think Stalin styled himself Generalissimo.
@edoardobaia7927
@edoardobaia7927 2 года назад
Wait those guys in the politbiuro where tukachevsky, Trotsky, kamanev, zivanyonev(i can't pronounce his name) and lenin
@bazzatheblue
@bazzatheblue 2 года назад
Zinoviev,possibly?I forgot him.
@art5169
@art5169 2 года назад
This video is gold
@gerddergaertner5071
@gerddergaertner5071 2 года назад
nice fanfiction you present there
@NotableFigures
@NotableFigures 2 года назад
me when the
@jurgeeen
@jurgeeen 2 года назад
It's a common myth, Russian army (White) wasn't a monarchist force, in fact most of them were democrats and socialists aka SRs. They fought for uniting Russia and establishing an order of "All Russian Constituent Assembly" which will decide future state system and other things 4:18 please, check the banner you used, I'm sure sure you can understand what's wrong by your own 4:30 Denikin wasn't in charge in Crimea, he was demoted and untill the evacuation Russian army was commanded by Pyotr Wrangel 7:43 It's a DP-27, ww2 machine gun. t's completely irrelevant, don't want to look like a nerd, just mentioned in case you're unaware Still a great video, I wish you good luck!
@jondr1ky
@jondr1ky 2 года назад
Да я слышал про Тухачевского. Хороший генерал в Hearts of Iron IV
@TempestLM
@TempestLM 2 года назад
Ещё бы не умирал после пары фокусов
@istredd3465
@istredd3465 2 года назад
@@TempestLM Вполне можно спасти
@TempestLM
@TempestLM 2 года назад
@@istredd3465 при Сталине нельзя, а это самая сильная ветка
@user-qw9ek3hb4r
@user-qw9ek3hb4r 2 года назад
И в чем его сила в игре?
@_kruczyslaw_501
@_kruczyslaw_501 3 года назад
your channel is so underrated
@bluewho4071
@bluewho4071 2 года назад
i dont know much about what your plans are in this channel, but please take a look to Hipólito Bouchard and San Martín, maybe you wont make a video about these subjects, but might be interesting for you. nice video btw
@ozzo1542
@ozzo1542 2 года назад
How can you have such few subs ur good
@johndoe5432
@johndoe5432 2 года назад
The circumstances of Tukachevsky's death are deliciously ironic. If there is a Hell I'm sure he and Stalin have much to discuss down there.
@RLF1949
@RLF1949 2 года назад
English community: Red Napoleon, another man die under Stalin madness Chinese Community: A butcher and mustard gas lover. Great job Papa Stalin
@fryingpancakes8445
@fryingpancakes8445 2 года назад
黑吃黑, nuff said
@gvbrandolini
@gvbrandolini 2 года назад
interessante
@seath3976
@seath3976 2 года назад
Suvorov my dude
@bbcmotd
@bbcmotd 2 года назад
0:35 says Тукачевский however his last name is Тухачевский. Х instead of K.
@NotableFigures
@NotableFigures 2 года назад
Lol this was such a stupid mistake, my apologies
@bbcmotd
@bbcmotd 2 года назад
@@NotableFigures Happens to the best of US :) No worries, great video and series!
@maxpaxe5677
@maxpaxe5677 2 года назад
Really good video, but its really quiet
@NotableFigures
@NotableFigures 2 года назад
Thanks! Hopefully my later videos solved that issue.
@holdfast453
@holdfast453 2 года назад
Commissars purges were nothing that we do not see today, albeit a murder is replaced by sackings. You get the sack because your boss doesn’t like you, classic in genre
@mikefay5698
@mikefay5698 Год назад
We all get the sack or redundancy at one time under Capie thraldom. Keep them insecure the Bourgeoisie reckon!
@alinebaruchi1936
@alinebaruchi1936 2 года назад
What? I study every option available.
@TheCaptainSplatter
@TheCaptainSplatter 2 года назад
Kind of looks like Napoleon too.
@alexsveles343
@alexsveles343 2 года назад
The man that created operational art. Just ask guderian…who happens to have done secret warfare inovation T khazan…secret Russian German war school.This is where your modern way of war was developed
@comradekat6394
@comradekat6394 2 года назад
Going down The Center in HOI4 like:
@lani6647
@lani6647 2 года назад
More like a Red Guderian
@pedrokantor7972
@pedrokantor7972 2 года назад
Russian civil war uniforms are real Drip
@peterbreis5407
@peterbreis5407 2 года назад
You did not show anything significant that would justify the title of the "Red Napoleon".
@williamsmeds1368
@williamsmeds1368 Год назад
Wonder how his presence could have changed ww2 if he wasn't purged by Stalin.
@hobartw9770
@hobartw9770 2 года назад
I think genius would be a stretch. He didn't care about his men and had to many personality flaws. Im sure he was highly intelligent though. I'd say red Napolean is very fitting monicker.
@andrewryanwasright
@andrewryanwasright Год назад
Am I the only one that thinks he looks like Rodney Dangerfield ? He certainly didn’t get enough respect.
@frereanaktom99
@frereanaktom99 2 года назад
the red napoleon was nguyen vo giap
@vuongtuan213
@vuongtuan213 2 года назад
Yes..I think nickname"Red Napoleon" General Võ Nguyên Giáp
@Tantibus9
@Tantibus9 2 года назад
I liked this one the best of all your videos Tukhachevsky was based
@bosnianchiaki1992
@bosnianchiaki1992 3 года назад
Good vid on a fairly unknown figure
@NotableFigures
@NotableFigures 3 года назад
Thanks!
@Pvt.Conscriptovich
@Pvt.Conscriptovich 2 года назад
ахуительные истории как всегда.
@19MAD95
@19MAD95 2 года назад
Calling Lviv a Soviet City is a bit of a stretch.
@trenttoski125
@trenttoski125 2 года назад
RIP GOAT
@user-ed8yx1lk8k
@user-ed8yx1lk8k 8 месяцев назад
"U were purged."
@syahmiAimann
@syahmiAimann 2 года назад
Maybe, he and stalin not have blaming each other after their defeat in battle of warsaw
@CatnamedMittens
@CatnamedMittens 2 года назад
He did get bodied by the polish tbf
@duncancurtis1758
@duncancurtis1758 2 года назад
Ol Bug Eyes Comrade Tovaritsch!
@gamingjamie9415
@gamingjamie9415 Год назад
I dissagree that Thukachevsky was a good military commander. He was personalisation of what would become the Soviet Wave tactic. Altough a myth in ww2, durring the revolution Thukachevsky extendedly used such means. Two victories mentioned were result of several major defeats, preety much, Thukachevsky won it by sheer brute force amd funnily enough almost got several times encircled but saved by Frunze (who imo is the ACTUAL best Soviet military commander before ww2). I agree absolutely he was brutal af but he was also as such in his tactics. His advance in Poland as you said was so fast that logistics were made a problem. Imo both Stalin and his ruthless aproach to advance made him loose. Stalin left a unit to defend Thukachevsky's flank, a small unit. Any sensible commander would have fucking stopped the moment her realised his flank was shit. But in standard ram the enemy fashion he uses he continued on and got himself almost encircled for like 5th time now. His theoretical contribution is deffinetly great altough I dissagre Voroshilov was exclusively pro cavalry such as Budyony was seeing as Voroshilov oversaw and supported the motorisation of RA durring 30s. Thukachevsky didn't just propose combined warfare of tanks and planes he outright deemed them only things necesary. One of his famous ideas in 30s was that USSR should produce 100k tanks *YEARLY*. He wanted dissolution of cavalry (which funnily enough was actualy extremly good on the eastern front and Soviets actualy had a problem where they had to reintroduce cavalry divisions from 12 active to 20 I belive. He also supported idea of rocket proppeled artillery, and not in like Katyusha tipe in like way that an artillery shell is instead a rocket. He liked rockets. He also stopped the expansion of the mortar artillery industry which made Stalin fucking hate him lmao. In the end he died due to charges of helping German planned coup (thus why was his family jailed). It is very very likely Germany outright forged the evidence to make him look guilty altough there is no definitive answer. And his ideology deserves a fucking book how wild of a trip it is.
@zdemaskowany6336
@zdemaskowany6336 2 года назад
Lviv was soviet city in Polish Soviet war?
@hayleybabyyu1282
@hayleybabyyu1282 2 года назад
Wasn't Comrade Tukhachevsky also of Polish origin? (You're video was great by the way).
@Razgriz032
@Razgriz032 2 года назад
I thought that was Konstantin Rokkosovsky
@pedrokantor7972
@pedrokantor7972 2 года назад
@@Razgriz032 both Tukhachevsky and Rokkosovsky had Polish origins, and they both came from the nobility
@hayleybabyyu1282
@hayleybabyyu1282 2 года назад
@@pedrokantor7972 thank you very much Pedro.
@harisnuman3538
@harisnuman3538 2 года назад
Napoleon? No less ,
@paulmattt
@paulmattt 2 года назад
Lwów was a Polish- Ukrainian city and had nothing to do with Russia nor the Soviets.
@MrDonboston
@MrDonboston 2 года назад
You play stupid games you get stupid prizes , if he couldnt see the evil of the Soviet communists that means he was just as evil and got his reward for it
@andrewwiley176
@andrewwiley176 11 месяцев назад
Woods Map
@Tundra1919
@Tundra1919 2 года назад
You forgot to mention his "pagan" tendencies
@NotableFigures
@NotableFigures 2 года назад
Lol I was going to but cut it because it wasn't that relevant. Quite the svarog fan
@bettycrocker6692
@bettycrocker6692 2 года назад
Excellent historical overview, but please learn how to pronounce Russian names.
@rafamieczkowski9913
@rafamieczkowski9913 3 месяца назад
Lviv in 1920 was not a Soviet city. The Soviet Union captured this city for the first time in September 1939.
@krzysztofmichniewicz6247
@krzysztofmichniewicz6247 2 года назад
Very good educating and also fun material, what is important igriedient in such "heavy" subject as history. Only one blunder I've detected is that mention of Lwów/Lviv as a soviet city... We can argue if it was Ukrainian or Polish, but it definitely was a soviet city untill 1940. And before 1919 those city was except of partitions being an integral part of Polish kongdom since 1360's until the 1772 (Ist partition in wich it was taken by Austrians and holded by them with short pause [1809-1815] and 1914-1915 untill 1918). I watched also about Lermonrtov and Rokossowski materials, and there were no blunders, so grat content. Of course i am not any authority ;). Are You making only about soviets figures? Only about Russian figures? Or Notable figures in your opinion at all? Thanks for any kind of your attention on my comment. With regards Me. :D
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