Asking a Redditor to stay away from Reddit for more than 48 hours is like asking a Twitter user to stay away from spewing an awful take for more than 48 hours.
Completely agree. I’m glad that the only social medias I kept is RU-vid (I love watching documentary videos and videos like Moist’s) and insta were I may not post, but it keeps me contacted with friends I’ve made in South Africa and Canada… people lose their damn minds on social medias and become so obsessed that it becomes their life and it’s so so sad and embarrassing
It really is about the most on brand redditor move imaginable. You gotta remember that most of these mods are lonely and spend the majority of their time patrolling and managing these massive subreddits, and taking that away will of course make them fall back to being a regular user. It's pretty comical to see how fast they folded, it's like they all stood up for the sake of reddit and then when they got threatened of being "fired", everyone backs down. Literally the only thing they had to lose was their self pride and regardless they lost it anyways
I mean, they lose either way. Either they get replaced and reddit reopens or they don't and reddit reopens. They never had any real leverage to begin with. About all they could really hope to do was make waves to bring awareness to it, which they did, and reddit said don't care so thats all that can be done by those people.
@AWanderingSwordsman that's what I was thinking. The fact is, reddit doesn't need them because rhe CEO will just find more people who want to be mods. That's why he's such a dick about it.
@@AWanderingSwordsman Yeah pretty much. Unless they were able to pull off what happened on day 1 then there was a chance of it being successful. But you're completely right, its kind of hard to "overthrow" an entire platform, per say.
So about that turning mods against each other thing. There was a line on the email that said something along the lines that if ONE moderator wanted the sub opened again, reddit would essentially make them King of the Mods and can the rest of them. They really were gunning for these mods to stab each other in the back.
That is the most childish, Scooby Doo villain BS i've heard...and yet it worked to threaten them hard enough? To hell with the CEO and Reddit, but to hell with these mods, too.
The thing about Reddit threatening to replace mods is that it's a total lose-lose situation. You could open back up on your own, quitting the indefinite commitment or you could be replaced with people who will probably agree with the terrible API changes, and the sub will still open back up. The first option is better to still let the subs think of different ways to protest. For example, r/pics now only allows posts of John Oliver in sexy outfits
The fact reddit threatened removing the mods shows it was at least to some level working... That is the point in a protest where you absolutely stick with it and keep going until something good actually happens
I think you would have a better shot convincing Doofensmirtz not to put a self-destruct button on his inators than asking a Redditor not to use Reddit for TWO WHOLE DAYS
What do you mean real tangible change didn't come from 72 hours?! What kind of world are we living in?I Think of the post flair! Would someone please consider the post flairs?! 😂💀
I just got a dab pen and im pretty high but hear me out, we are living in a world where people are fighting a big evil boss on there screens and communicating threats and important information via bird app. We live in an insane world guys
I just want to point out that I went to Reddit for the first time since blackout and holy shitballs, they have promoted posts EVERYWHERE now, so it seems like they're fighting for revenue hardcore which makes me think a lot of people are still boycotting.
Damn. I dropped Reddit the day the blackout started, deleted the app not long after, and haven't used it since. Sounds like communities that are being forced open are allowing NSFW content since Reddit cant monetize those subs.
Man, penguinz0, we all feel you. I feel sad but not surprised. We were all expecting this. I don't understand the heavy addiction to Reddit and other social medias. It's so easy to let go...
Addiction literally means something that's hard to let go, it just means you never experienced an addiction so you don't understand. There's a reason why addictions like alcoholism and drugs literally destroy families, it's one of the biggest unsolvable social problems as humans. It's like telling people to stop doing the one thing they like the most, stop eating pizza forever, stop listening to music, stop playing games etc.
Damn its as if they’re not addicted and can’t admit being weak willed, not siding with the corpos but it’s astounding that these people can’t just use another thing to pass time than use reddit
@@_fruitl00pz I think I understand it. Subreddits are maintained by the mods, and the communities that have developed are put at risk of entirely dissolving if potentially all of the people who have an intimate understanding of their subreddit communities are stripped of their ability to moderate.
The reddit blackout was like when a child threatens to leave home and the parents just let it happen knowing full well they’ll be back in like an hour.
Even the protest itself felt like a child's tantrum. They could have stopped users from posting new submissions instead of privating the entire sub. The point was to get people off the main feed of a sub, which is the only place that ads play. If you stop new submissions, that would remove all purpose of the feed, stopping people from going there, thus no ads would load. . . BUT STILL ALLOW OLD POSTS TO BE VIEWABLE!!!! Like, the "way" most of them were protesting (because some of them actually DID do it the way I said they should have above) was the most backwards "lets hurt users and stop them from actually using the site" method possible of protesting. When you start closing down public roads, that's no longer a protest, that's an outright riot.
@@Hadeks_Marow There would still be old content on your feed though, right? By fully privating the subreddits they fully reduced a huge chunk of traffic on the site which is just another layer to the protest
@@Hadeks_Marow >When you start closing down public roads, that's no longer a protest, that's an outright riot. That is how all protests have to be. The idea of a peaceful protest is nonsense because a peaceful protest is a protest with no power.
The only thing that frustrates me is the fact the CEO laughed in their face, literally saying "Nah trust me, they're addicted, they'll be back in a few days" and these dudes proved him right. He must have the biggest smug right now, ugh...
Of course they did, the kind of people who would be reddit mods are resentful no life nerds with no actual power, control or influence IRL. Being able to ban people arbitrarily from using a website is like crack to these people.
Reddit mods were just given the greatest opportunity they'll ever have to prove the "Reddit mod" stereotype wrong, and instead they reinforced it. Truly poetic.
@@flashmozzg what are you talking about, a lot of those subs are back up, and the posts on top and hot are still getting 50k + votes. protest did nothing. it failed. the mods of subs are actually following admins orders to open subs back up. its fucking funny.
@@BottlebitzReddit admins removed head mods the refused to open subs, assigned whatever other people that complained about subs being shut down, and opened subs by force
You really got to hand it to Reddit's CEO. He stuck to one idea, found every excuse for refusing to budge, and blamed Redditors for all of Reddit's problems. He really is a Redditor, through and through.
To be fair, every stereotype has been challenged over and over again and no one cares, just sticks with the stereotype. Jesus Christ himself could descend from the clouds and personally denounce a stereotype and people would still believe the stereotype
Redditors not being able to stay away for 24 hours is a perfect example of why Facebook will never fail no matter how much people claim they hate it and will leave it
Everyone just needs to get into a court case lol, that's what did it for me 😅 my attorney recommended deleting/closing social media accounts while I was fighting workers comp, took 1.5 years, but now that I can use it again I just have zero interest in it... now when I get on I'm like ew why?? 😂😂
not to mention that has alot of boomers with the cliche black and white picture with either two things, "cringe inspriational messages" or "i'm glad i'm not a liberal durrrr or a conservative durrrr, political scapegoat kinda post"
I think this is a good example of the danger with monopolies. If Reddit had a good competitor, all users would have left for it and Reddit would have inevitably backed down. This was a prime opportunity for a platform to position itself as competition to Reddit.
But there are competitors, like saidit. It is just that the prime reason to use reddit is content. And reddit has hit critical mass such that no other site will have enough content to compete with them, and thus moving to those other sites will not be worth it.
@@MassiveDestructionSP Well during the blackout, reddit basically had 0 content, so however little content on a rival platform would still be better. Not to mention 48hrs is enough time to generate a decent amount of content, at least/especially for the bigger subreddits, who would also be the ones to cause panic for the company the most.
@@Xicor.We've seen this attempted and failed before, happened when that woman CEO got into power a few years back. The problem is that the alternatives created never lasted, they peaked as quickly as they dropped. People forgot about it
There are a ton of competitors. Forgive me for saying this, but ignorant people like you just don't bother looking for them. The level of naivete is staggering. What you _really want_ is a place that your friends tell you is cool, meaning a place that is already popular. That doesn't "just happen" overnight, you have to put in a small amount of effort and look for a place to make it popular over a long period of time. This kind of mentality is what led the "protesters" to go back to Reddit in the first place; you're no better than they are.
@@MassiveDestructionSP Reddit literally has no content by definition, unless you consider the text posts themselves to be valuable. There is no system in place for Reddit to serve files. It's literally just a text forum with links to other websites in every OP.
This is actually hilarious. Not only did it not work even a little but they actually just proved to the CEO he could do whatever the fuck he wanted by proving they are so easily controlled.
@@RobotronSage I've thought about this a lot. I hate corporations but my hate for reddit mods is actually higher. I consider this a win. The reddit CEO can force the reddit mods to sing and dance by threatening their mod powers 😂🤣🤣😂
Did they really have the power to make a change though? Reddit would have just gotten new mods & reopened the subs lol. Obviously being a reddit mod is something plenty of no-lifes are foaming at the mouth for (especially the high-profile subs), so it would have literally been an easy spring cleaning replacement. Either way, Reddit was going to be back online by the end of the month, business as usual.
@@KevinJohnson-cv2no nah mate this is the downfall of reddit. The site is definitely going to lose some users after this. The site API will be worse, place will be filled with bots and toxicity. Then after some more time the will find a way to cut down on something else to make more money making more people leave. This signed the end of reddit. If all or even most mods left with tools, it would be hard for redit to find mods because those mods would suck and make the platform even worse pushing even more people away. It will never be business as usual, it will be business in a dying site.
I used Reddit daily and after the 48 hour blackout I realized I don’t need it. Since the reddit ceo hasn’t reversed their new policy I’ve decided to quit using their site. The only productive use was keeping up with national and local news, but I’ve just switched to Apple News. I also switched to twitter for sports stuff and left everything else cause it was a waste of time. After leaving Reddit I can finally touch grass, thanks mr shite CEO
The best part about the blackout to me was that it got me off the site too, and I've found replacements for everything I got from there. But with the added bonus that I don't waste hours upon hours just mindlessly scrolling through there anymore. I at least do something, be it playing a game, reading a book or web novel, or just getting off my ass. Seriously, this limited strike might have reinforced the worst qualities of the people on the website, but it also freed the better people who actually want to live their lives like you or me!
@@l1ghtd3m0n3 being a fan of Arizona sports teams is perpetual hell and that’s the only thing I follow on twitter, so I’m not really losing anything except when posts give me hope they’ll win anything. So fuck, you’re right.
The whole point of a protest or strike is to boycott a service/company/person/entity indefinitely with the threat of permanence until said entity is willing to change/compromise/meet demands. A scheduled protest is the safest and non-impactful thing possible. These people can't stay off a single website for more than 2 days, good lord.
now there are ones that came back as nsfw so they can't get ads, reddit users is still in full fight mode, but the only way to know is to be on the actual app. r/interestingasfuck is now nsfw.
Same, the mf reddit mods are some of the most pathetic people on earth. This is why I used boost to block their subreddits but with Third party apps going away. I'm afraid for what's to come.
Another day, another overblown 'internet boycott' that fails pathetically because the people most involved in it lack any kind of willpower or desire to do anything but feed their addictions. Colour me shook.
It's funny because they are working for free and yet they wanted to strike, but went back to working for free for Reddit whilst it spat in their faces. Imagine being a mod
Fkn seriously. They should've called the corporation's bluff, then if reddit stole their 10k+ subs the mods would have popular opinion on their side again, continuing the protest in other ways 🤦🏼♀️ can't believe they just folded lol, so lame & a bad example for others protesting in the future.
@@SRFAAI don't think anyone ever assumed reddit mods have any sign of intelligence, quite the opposite actually. But a lot of people on reddit are experts in a particular hobby and there are threads like r/askscience where there is always some kind of expert you can find on a topic.
@@g.3521 Yeah, but I mean it's not like people who are actually experts were represented by this protest or something. The protest was mainly led by a specific group of moderators, and not by the majority of Reddit users or the smartest ones.
TLDR: Reddit: "we are taking away your liberty" Redditors: "give us liberty or give us death" Reddit: "death it is" Redditors: "yo yo we were just playing, no liberty and no death, yay!"
@@yolkthosenuts Reddit also isn't having a direct dialogue with Redditors, nor are they actually threatening Redditors with death, if any of that helps you understand the point of my comment that at least *1500 other people have gotten without issue.
I had purged myself of social media except for Reddit. This blackout was the perfect opportunity for me. I didn't go on for 3 days. I went on yesterday, and after maybe 2 minutes I realized that I hated it and closed it for good lol. I guess I don't care what anyone else does but for I'm glad to be purged of the last social media site that I was using.
@@nik-challengeman383it kinda is though depending on what your definition of social media is, I mean like other social medias here I can also communicate with you like this by replying to your comment
If we consider every site that allows you to read and respond to someone's comments to be social media, then sure. That would mean New York Times, Investing, Ebay, Indeed, JCPenny, Amazon, porn sites, Walmart, etc etc are actually social media sites. My definition isn't that loose, but I can't argue with someone if that's the definition they want to use.
for anyone who doesnt know about what "turning mods against each other" meant, they made it clear that if one mod was willing to re-open the subreddits, they would become the head mod and the admins would remove all the other mods that want it closed. edit: no im not a mod. it was just talked about by the mods on several different subreddits
Even then , forcing reddit to do that for every protesting subreddit would have been such a bad look for Reddit , not to mention an absolute dump truck full of effort to replace all of them. (Which I think is good , make Reddit work for it and take the L they created instead of giving up )
@@st2udent_650 most people on Reddit didn't even care most of my subreddits were pissed they thought they could even go against the company they can very easily just replace them modding isn't hard
the mods are getting a taste of their own power tripping medicine, Id say deserved, espeically when they showed they will come right back regardless of being angry. They are noise.
I don't like the change, but I think reddit has an unsurprising reason for the change. Ultimately, redditors are the product and the advertisers are their real customers.
It's not for no reason. Reddit only has two sources of income, advertisements and awards. People using the 3rd party apps don't see the adds, cutting out half their revenue (or probably more than half).
I actually stopped using reddit at all. No, I'm not a moderator, or anyone special. I'm a simple user, less than a digit on reddit's spreadsheet. But what for me started as a protest against the removal of 3rd party apps lead to me finding out how addicted I was to scrolling that f*cking app. Just dropping it altogether made me discover how much free time I was wasting to the "online engagement monster".
That's like the easiest thing to say in the entire world when you aren't involved or responsible. Like there is nothing more paper thin that can be contributed to this entire comment section.
@@Linixion it's the easiest thing to say because it's the truth. A majority of these people aren't even paid for what they do, they simply cling onto online power. What's the point of protesting if you cripple at the SLIGHTEST hint of losing a title on a website? Although I wasn't claiming to make any sort of ground breaking comment, so I don't know where you got that idea from lol. Ironically enough you've made your own comment just as paper thin and misguided as you claim mine is
To be fair though, say a subreddit mod does forfeit their position for the strike, then what? They’d be replaced by someone who doesn’t have the subs success in mind at all. Truthfully I think the way to successfully strike Reddit is for people to just uninstall the official app en masse, and just stop using Reddit. Users and mods alike. Just boycott by simply not using the website
@@roguewave5187 I'm not making a groundbreaking statement either, I'm very simply - without expectations for anyone to give a shit - expressing my frustrations at people sitting around making lame jokes. Almost any situation where people take sides and start blasting people in general terms they have contributed to the failure by being unsupportive, overly critical, and less concerned with accountability than their own fart of a joke at things they have nothing to do with and no stake in. Also I try to learn from people even when they say things that make me uncomfortable or that I naturally feel dismissive about. Kinda gives life more meaning, you know?
100% agree. Most people don't end up going against their boss though (unless they get pushed too far). Most people are servile workers, who will often place their work over their own interests, even when they're legally able to refuse.
I used to be a redditor, and i really liked the way the site was structured. Too bad reddit refuses to change, I've been looking for a "good" social media platform since.
The sad part of this is that it exposes just how addicted people are to platforms such as reddit, Twitter, etc. They can't go more than a few hours without their fix before they start tweaking.
tbh I haven't actually liked reddit in months, and this dumb decision finally woke me up and I got off the platform. Honestly feeling a lot better since I got rid of it
to be fair, there are only like 6 websites around anymore and reddit has the most distilled communities of any other platform. you can scroll through hashtags or facebook groups for a show of game you like, but guaranteed reddit is the place where the most actual discussion is had or useful info is given. it sucks, i miss forums, but i get why the users came back
The "turning mods against each other" is that if any of the mods of a sub agreed to reopen, the reddit admins would remove all the others and put that one mod in charge. Reddit dangled a carrot of the ultimate power trip and it worked.
I don't get why everyone seems to have this take. Reddit didn't just threaten to take away the power, they have already done it to a select subreddits, effectively saying that "If you don't stop protesting, then we will take away your power to protest" and the way everyone is saying "lol mods just gave up" is infuriating. Largest example I caught before I went to bed yesterday of a mod change was r/piracy which had a mod removed, forced opening and got a reddit added mod.
@@MigranBTWdon't you understand what you just said? It is exactly what Charlie and everyone has said, Reddit do have the power to change the mod and reopen the sub, the take is that they *gave up*, the mod team are so afraid that they're going to be removed that they open the mod themselves, no one ever said this is an empty threat, everyone know that the mod can be removed and reopen, the thing we make fun is the fact that they're so afraid to lose the mod position
@@ScileScexactly They can go to any other forum platform, collaborate, market it to grow users and make bad press for Reddit Instead they decided to undermine values they claimed to have and continue working... FOR FREE
@@roachdoggjr7020 "Scab" is a derogatory term for opportunistic people who break union picket lines and take over their jobs during protests. They scab over the wound left by protestors so the company doesn't bleed money. _Nobody_ respects scabs.
i think the problem is these mods actually now have sunk so much of their time into being a reddit mod that the threat of having that simply ripped away from them is TERRIFYING, this truthfully is their life’s work.. and of course the ceo knows this, hence why he made that threat and didn’t even attempt to negotiate💀
Completely agree and see Charlie is being real close-minded by just minimizing a Reddit mod to a loser. Sure, there are mods like that but if all mods were like them, don't you think Reddit would have failed a lot sooner and this whole issue wouldn't have this much pushback if they were as bad as you assume they are? Also, it's kinda uncool to kick someone who's down. I've been on Reddit for over 10 years and have met mods that run cool, niche subs that have conversations and built relationships, bonding over their sub. Those are and the reason why I use Reddit. The default subs are shit but the ones with the loudest voice and make the most noise while us "normals" get boxed in with them. Honestly hate that everyone puts all Redditors down, in general.
We can see a similar thing happen with discord or twitch mods. It's one of the super unhealthy obsessions over "responsibilities" as if we would need a title to make other people on the internet respect us. Literal powertrip that's built on nothing but sand and dreams
I understand what you're saying, but imagine if you made a subreddit and then you were told it was going to be taken off you because you showed dissent against the company.
@@orga7777 People don’t want to do that though because there is genuinely useful things archived under a lot of subs, if not, historically significant posts. Nuking a sub would just be bad for everyone involved.
@@apenguininthemist855 LMFAO CALLING ME A CORPO YOU DONT EVEN KNOW ME. By historical events I mean peoples reactions to big world events as they unfolded in real time. A decades worth of tech help. Theory crafting and discussions for different series as they run/ran, and more. Would hurt Reddit, but would also hurt online preservation even more. Literally everyone who is continuing to use Reddit throughout all of this is displaying indifference to this entire scenario and has a certain level of enabling this. If you want a machine to stop working, then all parts have to stop doing their functions to make it stop working. This includes people still using the website and official app. We’ve seen this time and time again because of the communities need to consoom. This isn’t isolated to just Reddit communities being unable to stay off the app either lmfao. People still line up to empty their pockets to Activision Blizzard because knowing all the stuff that has came out because communities feel a need to consoom instead of just simply stopping and moving elsewhere. Now I’m not gonna blindly name call like you did, but can you at least see where I’m coming from?
Oh no, someone will take away their Boy Scout badge! Watch them give up on their morals and beliefs. Let’s hope none of them become politicians. We have enough of those types as it is.
This is what i was thinking. It took only the slightest notion of an inconvenience to them for them to give up on their personal beliefs and what they were protesting about. It really goes to show you how people value power and clout over community and the general good. Pretty sad for them.
@@SacredLiquidand actual skills. If I'm stranded outside I'd rather have a former boy scout with me then some mod that thinks he's an intellectual because he runs some shty subreddit.
It's hilarious watching Reddit moderators treat surrendering to Steve to save their subreddits like it's the French surrendering to Germany to save Paris
Except one would cost even more thousands of lives and cause unrepairable damage to one of the cultural hubs of an entire continent, and one is some obese pedo not wanting to lose a title on a single part of a single website
I know the whole France-Germany thing is kinda a meme but honestly at least with the French they were surrendering to literal nazi's, whereas with Reddit Mods it's just pathetic, since they didn't even have anyting at stake.
Do note that for a lot of these subreddits, they're being opened back up so that they can continue protesting. r/Pics and r/Gifs, for example, both now only allow John Oliver. This is definitely a better outcome then those mods being replaced with anti-protest mods who wouldn't allow protest material at all.
Oh I thought those new rules were because the OG mods got replaced by new ones or smth, I didn't know they were still protesting with John Oliver content.
I’m in a subreddit r/ILPT and now every time you post you have to include any image that has a sock in it😂 these things are getting out of control lmao
This is such a reddit mod move from the reddit mods to be able to bring so many people to your cause and on your side only to backtrack at the thought of losing your unpaid power
I thought my complete and utter disrespect for reddit mods couldn't be greater, but apparently, it can. Some fights are just evil versus evil, we don't really have a horse in the race.
My favorite is the antiwork subreddit that is so anti work that they decided to bow down to their corporate overlords and continue their free work. I guess the tiny amount of power was enough to give up their principles. Weird that money is not enough but being a reddit mod is.
The dichotomy is the empowerment of maintaining control and thus revolutionary direction, or losing it through rash dedication to a single avenue of protest. If you believe yourself to be a mouthpiece for the "essence" or ambitions of a community or movement, why abandon your position to what is essentially a puppet team of moderators who contradict the ideologies of the community itself when you could reevaluate a different way to protest (e.g., the malicious compliance of r/pics, r/gifs, r/iphone, r/aww, r/steam, r/wellthatsucks, etc. in an attempt to further disrupt the IPO of Reddit)?
As someone who casually uses Reddit just for some smaller communities, I did follow what was going on and supported the cause. But seeing the posts talking about why they weren’t going to go offline indefinitely, as well as all the comments agreeing saying they couldn’t handle not using Reddit was honestly so baffling and sad to me. It wasn’t just the mods, clearly even the users couldn’t handle being off Reddit for even 48 hours, they were so mad about the new policies but they barely did anything because they’re so reliant on it. Truly a Reddit moment
I'm not an avid reddit user, but I can't count the amount of times that I had an issue or needed some information and could only find it on reddit. While I am annoyed that I can't find what I'm looking for sometimes, I still support the protest. even still, when I go to find an answer to something on reddit all the posts that have the answer I need are blocked. It is a very effective protest in my perspective and I hope that it works.
Yeah; it's disheartening. Looking at the reopening threads or in subs that didn't go offline (e.g. the team-specific subs for r/nba), there are basically two types of comments: those that say that the mods chickened out of an indefinite private mode because they were missing their power trip and those that are furious that they couldn't use reddit for 2 whole days and the entire private mode was a mod power trip to begin with. Regardless of which side of the argument people were on, they all but ignored the original problem itself and focused on blaming the mods for everything. Reddit has spoken and the message is clear: "we don't care about corporate greed and will gladly take it as long as we can farm karma and meme on the mods".
I feel so vindicated. The idea that the handful of reddit mods were going to give up their own illusory power, which is probably all they have going on in their lives, was ridiculously naive to begin with. Add to that the fact that redditors are completely addicted to the site, and you have a recipe for the most useless protest since Occupy Wall Street.
That’s crazy. Steve literally told them, “there is literally nothing impactful you can do, because you all NEED this site.” What’s crazier is that Steve was 100% right.
I’m always reminded of the anti work mod when I think of Reddit mods. If they wanted to really protest they should have all immediately quit their mod positions and let the subreddits collapse. Prove their perceived value and the value of the API
If the Redditors kept it up for a week or two, that would definitely upset the CEO because of the loss of ad revenue and maybe there would be slight changes. Oh well.
That is still not enough, should be at least 9 freakin months Eh, never mind, if they locked out all the subs for too long, the CEO would force open all of those and kick out all the mods just to replace them with extremely violent "power mods"
@SihamHamda47 Memes Then they should've started to sabotage the Subreddits, making sure that even if it opens, the experience terrible, maybe try banning all the people from even entering it in the first place for a long time, that would've definitely still make it a hassle for people to return, had they stick with their guns and started shooting when the CEO started to get rid of mods they would've absolutely damaged the site irreparably for a long time, plus with most of the moderators leaving, it would be very great to start posting... Some unsavory materials for their advertisers, it would've been a second wave of protests, 4Chan and so many others would definitely take advantage of the chaos to make the advertisers lives hell and would give that autist loking Steve a punch to the face.
@@Broomer52 Not only dumb, the majority of people don't even use 3rd party apps, so it was a dumb protest by some terminally online minority. Truly a reddit moment.
I didn't expect it to work because it was just a really shitty plan. Their entire thought process was "to protest Reddit we'll cut it's traffic in half to show Spez we're not fucking around" but that was never going to change the fact that Reddit is so big and is used by so many people for solutions to problems that aren't answered by Google or Quora.
These Reddit mods are the equivalent of Eric Cartman. Give them a smidge of power, they'll abuse it maliciously and you can't pry them off it with a crowbar
I dont use Reddit so I’m not invested in this situation but it just pisses me off that people go on strikes where they could literally lose their jobs but these people can’t go without their Reddit for a few days
It's sad. As an avid Reddit user, I'd happily, and have before, not touched Reddit for weeks at a time, especially if it stops a company from being proven right
@@clint-thenormalguy-rockwell365 Exactly, I literally just go there for literal shits and giggles, like I pretty much get my daily memes from there, and if it meant showing a company to stop their bs then hell yeah I’m willing to stop that indefinitely. It’s a shame these other people aren’t able to do the same and literally caved in at the mere mention that they’ll lose any power over others.
People seem to think Reddit is only for cat pics or girl boobies. There are hundred of subs for sharing information on really niche subjects and if they go on protesting forever, people won't be able to access those information.
Yup he’s not wrong. I remember in one of the Reddit subs a mod was like “we can’t close this sub because a lot of people depend on the information from it”. I was like “People can live without Reddit trust me 😂”. After some backlash they closed only for 1 day and no one was impressed with them 😂. These mods wholly believe that their subreddits are like the most essential thing in the internet and that no one can live without them. I can’t blame anyone for hating them because they take themselves and their subreddits way too seriously.
Lol absolutely! Although, in their defense, the only way I'm even able to get decent answers to questions on half the search engines out there is to add "reddit" at the end of my query, so at least reddit is helpful to have around.
@@zeppelins4ever I'd like to ask what queries you are asking. Or perhaps request that you reflect on the solutions you got and re-examine whether they were actually good. Because every time I get answers from Reddit, it's shit. Stack Exchange does the answers thing, but better. Still has the piss-ant mods and communities though.
@@CrizzyEyes same as what Mariebun said, usually when it comes to niche, obscure stuff, reddit is most helpful (though I do try to find other sources to verify, I'm not just going to outright trust an answer without some sort of proof, but again, reddit tends to lead me in the right direction at the bare minimum, even if I have to look at some of the less upvoted comments). Stack Exchange is very helpful though, and much more thorough, I will agree! But they don't always have the exact specific info I'm looking for.
Dude redditors might take the cake for caring about subs, i didn’t mind if it was indefinite cuz either they actually solve the problem or i lose my addiction but SOOO many people we’re seething at the mods when they reopened, for closing in the first place Entitlement seems to run deep amongst mods and users alike
I have some insight into this "turn moderators against each other thing". What I think happened based on some threads I saw last night is that they implied that if anyone on the mod team of a sub was willing to play ball that they would promote that mod to top mod. The moderator list is like a ranking - if a higher mod disagrees with a lower mod then they get the right to overrule that decision. The person with all the power on a sub is the top mod - their mod actions cannot be overturned by the other mods. So basically this implication was that lower mods could "usurp" higher mods if they agreed to reopen. Sidenote: I was permabanned from a default sub yesterday for telling the top mod he didn't deserve to get paid and that he was power tripping. Instaban lmfao.
Basically neo-feudalism. Feudal lords weren't paid by the king (at least not formally) but ran their portion of the realm for the power it granted them (and sometimes a sense of duty and obligation). And if they got too uppity they could be replaced.
bruh i knew redditors were pathetic but having a fucking leaderboard for moderators? no wonder why the site has a god awful mod culture it literally bakes competitiveness into something that should be a colaborative effort.
I said this before the boycott started and I’ll say it again: If you have a pre-determined date for when your boycott ends, especially if it’s literally just two days after it starts, then you’re not doing the boycott because you believe the issue needs to be resolved, you’re just doing it because it’s the popular thing to do and you’re jumping on a bandwagon.
@@MbitaChizi Your parents are well known in the community for their false promises. It's why they're not allowed at the PTA meetings. Don't get your hopes up, squirt.
“Please! It’s the only thing I’ve ever had responsibility over. I have the power to ban people and I feel important. I was bullied my whole life and this is my calling, don’t remove me!”
@@TheProphegy it’s more like, “please do not destroy the community of half 1 million members that I’ve spent building over the past eight years”. It wasn’t just threats they actually replaced mods.
@@RiverBaine An online community, it literally means nothing. They can go literally anywhere else and restart the community if they don;t like it. Or they can, y'know, go outside and meet real people instead of living in their echo chambers of reddit. Plus let's not forget that they spent the last eight of their years WILLINGLY building it. Reddit wasn't contracting them out to put together the subreddit, it was purely a hobby that they took far too seriously.
Reddit mods are an absolute joke, I've been banned from a page for replying to a mods comment, all I said was "Boooo". Apparently that is harassment lmao, they're just propped up by their fragile ego
RE "turning mods against each other": This is because the message reddit sent out was basically "Hey, is there any lone dissenter who wants to be made into the lead mod in your subreddit?", because they basically said if there's even a single mod who wants to open the subs, they will make them into the lead mod who can override all the others, and that's what they've done. A number of the subs reopening have basically had someone dissent and turn on the other mods and got reorganized into the leader of the sub mods.
that's what you THINK happened. but in actuality no one knows, and it's safe to believe exactly what charlie said happened, that those spineless little turds folded as soon as they heard the news.
y'know. I honestly believed they would go through with it. I uninstalled Reddit and deleted my account. Turns out, not everyone is willing to keep promises. :(
Meh, I uninstalled it because it was bad and am heavily reducing how often I visit the site. There's some info there that isn't anywhere else with people keeping on top of the current status. Maybe eventually a decent competitor (free/cheap) will show up and I'll jump ship
As someone who really enjoys using reddit but no longer has a chronic dependency on the internet, I have to admit that I honestly knew nothing about the strike because apparently I did my part by... not checking for 2 days??
I think the next step in a situation like this would just be to delete the entire subreddit. If extremely popular subreddits just started disappearing, wouldn't that send a pretty heavy message to the CEO?
_Can_ they delete a subreddit? I'm not sure if moderators are actually able to do that. But even if they did delete the subreddits, they can just be recreated. They'd lose all the old content (unless Reddit keeps backups), but a replacement would still do the job.
I highly doubt that something the size of a popular subreddit can just be deleted without any option to roll back the changes within a set duration like a few days. If i delete my empty firebase project, it allows me to retrieve the content within 30 days lol.
@@Cenentury0941You are both correct. Subs can’t be deleted. And anything that CAN be deleted, is SOFT deleted for a measure of time, before being permadeleted.
@@THEFlea1991 exactly. They have VM containers for exact entire site backups, probably up to a few minutes. Subreddit disappeared? It can be restored instantly and “fixed” to just remove the problem mod. There is nothing they can do.
@@derf93 I'm sure he's worried he's lost the respect of DERF. He'll probably be crying, as he bones your wife, mother, whatever you have that he can bone.
@@numnaut1314 What were the mods really gonna do? Get replaced en mass with a decent chance the fresh mods fuck shit up? Its a lose lose situation. Either they came back or Reddit Corpo will scrape up the nearest methhead, gas em up, and let him go apeshit. Shits fucked.
A mod banned me from a subreddit for an "offensive" comment on the Hogwarts game. They kept banning me from any other subreddits I commented on for no reason because most of them mod multiple subreddits. That's when I realised Im becoming a proper redditor and stepped in some dogshit I don't need in my life. Deleted the app immediately and I don't regret it. The mods on reddit are never going to give up their position in protest.
I was going to tell you to seek help in the first half. But I'm genuinely surprised. A commenter actually sought help 🙏🙏 may the Lord, the universe, Allah or Xenu bless you on your journey good sir
What did you say that made them ban you in the first place?
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Or you could realize that the entire platform is not defined by the actions of one mod? That's like deleting Facebook, because you got kicked out from a group.
This needed to be a full fledged boycott, and nobody had the guts to do it and put down Reddit in definitely. That they put a time limit on the strike, showcased their addiction is and how their "subreddit is too important to close. It's where I hang out." There is excuse after excuse to actually hurt reddit vs maintaining it. They gave in and suddenly everybody forgets about Apollo and has to ensure their bots stay live to make sure the subreddit goes on as planned. Unbelievable.
My favorite was r/nba mods. They made it sound like the protest worked & they were actively communicating with the higher ups at reddit & felt it was appropriate to reopen r/nba bc they were satisfied with what the admins were going to do to resolve the protest.
Remarkable how the mods were smart enough to realize the effect they had on the website as a whole, but as soon as their power was remotely threatened they completely caved in. Really on-brand for Reddit too, a group of people who are smart-ish except in situations that actually matter. People are saying "ohh giving the site a specific timeframe was a blunder", but part of me thinks that even with an indefinite protest, Steve making that one threat would've still been enough to get many subreddits back open.
As much as I want to give the subreddits that opened after a mere 2 days shit for being this dumb, yeah, ultimately those that are higher up on the totem pole than just subreddit mod will absolutely have the most power here. If it had anymore of an effect to the point where the CEO got more desperate he really would just force the subreddits open himself, with no regard to how. We've seen the internet's response when it comes to these things, start some topics, bitch and complain, but continue onward like nothing ever happened, so it'd absolutely work, people would still flock to subreddits with scab mods.
steve only made the threats to subs that didnt reopen after 48 hours so you're probably right, but i there are still a good number of subs that are privated / restricted still which is good. its about half of the big ones, and i dont think its over yet but the ball is defintely in the process of being fumbled.
Few days later, they're not done yet Some subs have decided to have very wild specific rules, r/memes has decided to make itself entirely medieval themed and others have started marking their subs as NSFW to prevent advertising So we'll have to see how this goes
@@EasyBakeEpix1365 I agree, the addiction is seriously maladaptive, but the addiction isn't going to be curbed by banning nsfw posts on all social media. That's just going to punish those who make a living making it and the people who enjoy it casually, the people who can separate fantasy from reality.
It’s like when a child stops breathing as a tantrum, a parent knows the kid will either stop or pass out lmao. Redditors can’t stop their natural body functions
I'm absolutely baffled that they cannot stay away from the site, it's like reddit is their whole universe. They *had* the self-respect to "protest" but now completely lost their collective dignity for folding so hard.
@munkydreads The difference with reddit is it seems like redditors have real cognitive dissonance where they think they've achieved peak human performance by being in a reddit thread daily. A lot of people on Twitter are at least somewhat aware it's garbage, but still use it
I use reddit once in a blue moon to see the dumbest people on the planet, like I'm visiting a zoo. You're right on the money with saying Reddit is their whole universe. The amount of times I've had idiots reply to me on Reddit with something along the lines of "No one is going to give your comment likes here!" as if that matters at all. They self censure there to pretend they're popular and it's very sad.
Its sad how they easily could've redeemed their names for being Reddit mods and actually fight a just cause. Too bad they immediately pulled out once they heard they're power was going away.
Even though i knew where this whole fiasco was going, it was still the funniest shit seeing it happen. Reddit mods immeadiatly bending over the moment they are threatened with losing their mod status is comedy gold.
Tf were they going to do? The 2 options were opening the subreddit yourself or be replaced and have them open anyways. The smart thing to do wasnt to die on that hill. It's stupid to call them cowards for that
@@pirilon78 nope. Way smarter because reddit would collapse without the og mods. They wouldn't even have enough people to replace them. A total bluff that only idiots would fall for.
@@measlesplease1266 Yeah I had a feeling about that. I also had my own takes on it on what would be the possibilities, first possibility is "og mods" assigning one of their own in that community which is like 10% possibility, the second possibility is likely because I guarantee that they probably won't even assign a real person and would just abandon that subreddit to die. But honestly in your opinion how much of a bluff is it really?
As soon as any company tries to become publicly traded it immediately goes to shit. That's what happens when you're bound by law to make as much money as possible as fast as possible.
Not exactly how slavery works, since it’s usually UNWILLING work, but the sentiment that it’s thankless and unpaid makes Reddit more of an overlord and the moderators peasants
