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Redesign vs Slugs 100 yards with FX Impact MK2 

Air Rifle Pestings
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Shooting the JSB Redesign 25.4gr pellet vs H&N 23gr Slugs at 100 yards using my FX Impact MK2 with a 600mm slug liner.
It was a pretty calm with slight wind late evening, perfect for long range shooting/testing. My slugs were shooting pretty good before this day with a lot tighter groups that I got this evening. I believe it was due to the velocity lost from 918 fps to 907 fps. I later found out the delrin washer was damaged when I upgraded the power plenum I received in May (Power Plenum DIY video to follow). These slugs need to be pushed faster to obtain better groupings.
But it was a pleasant surprise to learn that the JSB Redesign was hitting tight groups at 100 yards. My slug liner is great for shooting pellets and slugs.
My gear:
FX Impact MK2 with 600mm slug liner
MTC Viper Pro 3x18-50mm
FX no limits mount
Side-Shot Hero 7
H&N 23gr .218 slugs @ 918 fps, 43 ft.lb
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@anthonydefillippis8806
@anthonydefillippis8806 4 года назад
My 23 gr .218 H&N 1/2 at 50 yards. My settings are at 155 bar hammer wheel screwed out to Max and then put on power 4. Impact valve setting to 8.9 mm. Avg of 921 fps. At 100 yards most of the time under an inch. Sometimes over an inch.
@ARP-airriflepestings
@ARP-airriflepestings 4 года назад
Nice setup. I will installing the power plenum next week and I will run the slugs 930-950fps to see if I can get right groups at lower reg pressure hopefully. Thanks for sharing your info
@michaelholt9378
@michaelholt9378 3 года назад
You have definitely found your new ammunition, very very good shooting! Well done. It's not all about killing it's good to watch this kind of stuff, thanks
@ARP-airriflepestings
@ARP-airriflepestings 3 года назад
thanks Michael. it was nice to find out what ammo works for each gun.
@mikerichardson4240
@mikerichardson4240 Год назад
I have tried most brands of pellets and quite a few slugs, and the JSB redesign 25.4 just amaze me with their performance. With slugs it has to be the NSA 24.8 closely followed by the Zan 25gn The rifle also likes a staple diet of the JSB 18gn pellets FX Impact M3 700mm barrel in 22
@ARP-airriflepestings
@ARP-airriflepestings Год назад
yes the redesign pellets are amazing. Good job finding the ammo for your M3.
@ARP-airriflepestings
@ARP-airriflepestings Год назад
I will have to do another video on the Redesign 25.4gr vs the H&N Gen2 25gr slugs again out to 100 yards with my current setup. cheers.
@bartoszpajak2285
@bartoszpajak2285 2 года назад
I had exactly the same experience. The original Monsters had a tendency to destabilise past 40-50 yards when they slowed down so they were pretty useless for longer range, but the redesigned version works really great when shot with the right speed. I do not bother with slugs anymore since I gave them a try.
@ARP-airriflepestings
@ARP-airriflepestings 2 года назад
yes the redesign 25.4gr likes faster speed. My Impact MK2 is shooting them really well out to 120 yards. Please check out "Impact vs Delta Wolf" video. thanks for watching.
@okhouri
@okhouri Год назад
You need to invest more time finding the correct velocity for the slugs in relation to your on barrel. Furthermore, the slug liner is designed for heavier than 26 Grain; so you were using it with slugs that were far too light
@ARP-airriflepestings
@ARP-airriflepestings Год назад
Thank you. I have tuned my Impact MK2 shooting the H&N 25gr Gen2 slugs at 984fps, 54ft.lb. It is shooting very well out to 100 yards now.
@mughram
@mughram 4 года назад
Very interesting but from my experience in field with both : 1- pellet cannot compare with slugs with same setting 2-if you use slugs h&n try 25gr with pellet liner 0.217 Pellet specially redesigned found best results @high speed maximum range 150y beyond that distance go for slugs ... slugs gives me 3 inch @ 200y
@ARP-airriflepestings
@ARP-airriflepestings 4 года назад
Thank you for the feedback. My plenum finally arrived and I will be installing it soon. I will test the 25gr slug vs JSB 25.4gr for comparison once I retune the gun again. I will be pushing 930-950fps.
@airriflehunter87
@airriflehunter87 4 года назад
Fantastic shooting with them pellets. I use pellets only , the 34gr mk2 in .25 cal and 44gr in .30. For the shooting we do we don’t need slugs . Been overhyped I’m afraid . Well done
@giovannihell4895
@giovannihell4895 4 года назад
airriflehunter87 LEE Hello friend, a question: in the .25 caliber, which pellets do the 25 grains or the 34 grains mkII do better? and at what speeds does it shoot them?
@ARP-airriflepestings
@ARP-airriflepestings 4 года назад
yes pellets give tighter group overall, but slugs are much better at longer range in windy condition. thanks for watching.
@giovannihell4895
@giovannihell4895 4 года назад
Air Rifle Pestings ok thanks
@safakaswedishairgunforum-n1490
@safakaswedishairgunforum-n1490 8 месяцев назад
amazing results, wonder how they shoot in a old 500 mm smooth twist?
@ARP-airriflepestings
@ARP-airriflepestings 8 месяцев назад
no idea, best to try it out. But these Redesign pellets have great success with lots of shooters.
@javirer.bernardopaul7243
@javirer.bernardopaul7243 Год назад
Excelente 👌 a que velocidad los tira 25g
@ARP-airriflepestings
@ARP-airriflepestings Год назад
Creo que fueron 905 fps en este video, pero ahora los estoy ejecutando a 950 fps y tengo buenos resultados.
@javirer.bernardopaul7243
@javirer.bernardopaul7243 Год назад
Gracias
@PeakyBlinder
@PeakyBlinder Год назад
Great vid by the way
@ARP-airriflepestings
@ARP-airriflepestings Год назад
thank you for watching. I will need to revisit this comparison again and do another video.
4 года назад
Ooh interesting! Never thought that they would beat the slug in that distance.
@ARP-airriflepestings
@ARP-airriflepestings 4 года назад
ya I was surprised as well. I didn't know why the slugs weren't performing that day. I had them shooting very well prior to that day. I did clean the barrel that night and my impact is shooting them well again. FYI 900fps with the JSB 25.4 gr.
@covarrubias736
@covarrubias736 4 года назад
My RAW HM1000X shoots the same at 50yrds at 100yrds it the same one hole on a good day and if I'm doing my part.
@c45pc5
@c45pc5 4 года назад
Air Rifle Pestings nhìn chú giống người việt quá
@georgedeedsnotwords2162
@georgedeedsnotwords2162 3 года назад
My impact didn't like the H&N slugs either . But loved the fx and Nielson slugs . With pellet liner . This is one amazing rifle ! Pellets ir slugs I can usually find a setting that works well .keep up the great videos .
@ARP-airriflepestings
@ARP-airriflepestings 3 года назад
I was able to shoot these H&N slugs pretty good with the older slugs after I got my tune. But recently the new tins gave me all sort of problem. I had to wash and lube them and retune my gun. so far I am getting close to hitting tighter groups at 90 yards but not as good as before. still tuning... thanks for watching.
@MACISUS
@MACISUS 4 года назад
😄 as you know I enjoy shooting the monster jumbo. They work so well I’ve hardly shot my slugs. 👍🏻
@ARP-airriflepestings
@ARP-airriflepestings 4 года назад
much cheaper to shoot pellets than slugs
@AntonioLopez-jg1gd
@AntonioLopez-jg1gd 3 года назад
👍
@ARP-airriflepestings
@ARP-airriflepestings 3 года назад
thank you for watching.
@coreymoyers
@coreymoyers 4 года назад
Come on JSB, we need the Monster hades.
@ARP-airriflepestings
@ARP-airriflepestings 4 года назад
hopefully someday lol.
@trshuster
@trshuster 4 года назад
You are making me nervous with your camera that close to the target. I love the footage though! How are liking the Impact versus the Crown?
@ARP-airriflepestings
@ARP-airriflepestings 4 года назад
lol, I was glad I got good aim lol. The impact is very powerful and lots of adjustments, but it is not a good gun for bench shooting. the Crown is a lot lighter, excellent on bench rest, but power is on the low side. But they both function to my needs very well. I shoot AA 16gr on the Crown (500mm) and slugs on the Impact (600mm).
@Boogerboys1990
@Boogerboys1990 3 года назад
Yeah the slug liner will make those slugs go way further 200 yards lol. 110$ definitely good investment. Pellets won't go much further that 100 + yrds as accurate as this slugs . Faster spin rate 👍👍 good stuff. We all learning. U can improve those slugs 3x easy . U probably know this all by now. cheers🍻
@ARP-airriflepestings
@ARP-airriflepestings 3 года назад
yes I got my Impact shooting the H&N slugs 23gr really well now, thanks.
@christhomas4260
@christhomas4260 4 года назад
Try a little less hammer and 5 more bar it might help the slug groups
@ARP-airriflepestings
@ARP-airriflepestings 4 года назад
thanks. still tweaking in. Getting my plenum this week. will see what happens.
@PeakyBlinder
@PeakyBlinder 2 года назад
Get your self a micrometer and check the slug diamiter, H and n 217 are 216, the only true size seems to be the h and n 30 grain they are a true 218. FX barrels are made for a 5.5377 slug, Anything smaller will rattle Jsb knockouts are 5.49 don't even go there, Try the 30 grain and definatly micromiter the h an n. You need at least a 5.5377 at least. That's why they opened up.
@ARP-airriflepestings
@ARP-airriflepestings 2 года назад
thank you for the advise. That video was done a while ago. I am currently shooting the 34gr H&N .218 size in my Impact and I have good result out to 100 yards. thanks
@PeakyBlinder
@PeakyBlinder 2 года назад
@@ARP-airriflepestings good job, That was the only h and n that measured 218, That is what I'm trying next time out. Happy shooting.
@ARP-airriflepestings
@ARP-airriflepestings 2 года назад
@@PeakyBlinder thank you. you too.
@Gentleman2019
@Gentleman2019 3 года назад
Great shooing bro, but I guess a lot has happened since May. Please allow me to share my experience using slugs vs pellets ...Now I can honestly achieve much much better groups than that, not bec I'm a better shooter, but simply bec I'm using the correct combination. With 25.4gr knockout slugs using 700mm superior barrel, the redesigned pellets don't stand a chance at any distance! With no wind, at 50m, all 5 holes cut each other consistently with no fliers at all... At 100m i get 0.5 to 0.7 inch groups center to center. Using a slug liner for such light pellets is useless in my opinion. Only use slug liners when shooting extremely long & heavy slugs over 40gr. which require an aggressive twist rate in order to stabilize. The superior 700mm standard barrel (not heavy) will give you much tighter groups at higher speeds than any type of barrel out there! One important rule to remember... Never Ever shoot slugs directly after you've shot pellets, without cleaning your barrel first! Slugs are much more sensitive towards a clean barrel and shooting them after shooting pellets will ruin your grouping for sure. Happy shooting!
@ARP-airriflepestings
@ARP-airriflepestings 3 года назад
fantasic, thanks for the tips!
@user-hh2ul8cq1b
@user-hh2ul8cq1b 2 года назад
Вы используете самые тяжёлые пули H&N? Вы говорите что нет смысла использовать лёгкие пули? Какая скорость должна быть?
@biagiocozza8875
@biagiocozza8875 4 года назад
Great video Alex, have a look at the JSB 33.9 gr redesigned pellets, they shoot very well in my .22
@ARP-airriflepestings
@ARP-airriflepestings 4 года назад
thanks for the info. I might give them a try. I just got my power plenum today, so hopefully I will get the chance to install it this weekend and test.
@PeakyBlinder
@PeakyBlinder Год назад
Another thing to try on them slugs is to reduce the power for each group, Sometimes to much power is bad,
@ARP-airriflepestings
@ARP-airriflepestings Год назад
Yes I agree. more power not necessary better. I find 850-900 fps is best for pellets and slugs.
@user-nz7hn2oy4u
@user-nz7hn2oy4u 2 года назад
你的视频拍的很好,很有用
@ARP-airriflepestings
@ARP-airriflepestings 2 года назад
thank you.
@terrymicalizzi
@terrymicalizzi 3 года назад
My bullpup did the same with 23 grain h&n but slug on slug with the 21 grain in 218 h&n bro try them
@ARP-airriflepestings
@ARP-airriflepestings 3 года назад
great tip, thank you.
@hobar8031
@hobar8031 Год назад
No offense to h&n but fx doesnt like them 😂 i have tried all weights in 5.5 but no luck but in jsb redesigned and ko works perfectly..
@ARP-airriflepestings
@ARP-airriflepestings Год назад
yes the redesign has been very consistent in my guns.
@mohamedabdoola1159
@mohamedabdoola1159 4 года назад
Thanks for this video...very interesting results. What magnification was your scope on? Thank you. Stay Safe, ALB from South Africa
@ARP-airriflepestings
@ARP-airriflepestings 4 года назад
I always shoot at 10x. thanks for watching
@Sc0ooter
@Sc0ooter 4 года назад
Try the 25gr h&n slugs, they shoot amazing through the slug liner. Or put the pellet liner back it shoot the 23gr h&n slugs way better than the slug liner.
@ARP-airriflepestings
@ARP-airriflepestings 4 года назад
I am getting my plenum hopefully by Monday. I will tune to higher velocity and try the heavier grain slugs to see what happens. thanks for watching.
@hobar8031
@hobar8031 Год назад
Whats the speed for mk2 redesigned??
@ARP-airriflepestings
@ARP-airriflepestings Год назад
It was 900 fps. I am running them 950 fps currently in my MK2.
@nigelbase1196
@nigelbase1196 4 года назад
Try using a smaller aiming dot instead of trying to aim at the centre of a large target...makes for more accurate shooting and better groups..
@ARP-airriflepestings
@ARP-airriflepestings 4 года назад
believe me at that distance, the dots looked very small. lol. thanks for watching.
@airgunsonmymind2989
@airgunsonmymind2989 2 года назад
Slug liner....is it the superior heavy?
@ARP-airriflepestings
@ARP-airriflepestings 2 года назад
no. it was the regular slug A liner
@stewartgash5090
@stewartgash5090 4 года назад
it was just that FX produce slug and pellet liners and your slug liner shot the pellets far better.
@ARP-airriflepestings
@ARP-airriflepestings 4 года назад
my current setup since I upgraded the power plenum has given me better accuracy with H&N 23 gr .218 running at 945 fps and AA 18 gr pellet at 990fps.
@gigagiga4172
@gigagiga4172 4 года назад
great shoots!!! it is slug liner ?
@ARP-airriflepestings
@ARP-airriflepestings 4 года назад
yes 600mm slug liner. thanks.
@jennysok
@jennysok 4 года назад
What is your speed with JBS 25gr?
@ARP-airriflepestings
@ARP-airriflepestings 4 года назад
it was 905fps at 135 bar, setting 4
@bowhunt9968
@bowhunt9968 4 года назад
Clearly your barrel doesn't like either projectile very much or you are not running them at their ideal velocity because those groups were pretty sad, and are no where near what that rifle is capable of. That last 100 yard group, with the JSBs was phenomenal, but does not seem to be the norm. A 250 bar fill should not make your POI "jumpy" as you said. The Impact is regulated and all shots should be consistent, as long as your regulator is working properly. Try some 26 grain NSA slugs and experiment with higher velocities (above 900 fps)
@ARP-airriflepestings
@ARP-airriflepestings 4 года назад
agree. with the new power plenum installed I can now push the slugs 23 and 25 gr up faster and see if I can find the optimal speed to obtain tighter groups. So far my gun seems to prefer the H&N vs NSA.
@jrlayneoliver
@jrlayneoliver 4 года назад
did you install the power plenum yet? also, what was the fps of each?
@ARP-airriflepestings
@ARP-airriflepestings 4 года назад
My plenum should be here by Monday. JSB 25.4 gr at 900fps; H&N 23gr at 918fps. Impact MK2 600mm slug liner, 135 Reg pressure, HS set at 4
@adventure8319
@adventure8319 3 года назад
Slugs need power , higher FPS. Try shooting in between 950-980 n see the result.
@jacebigelow
@jacebigelow 4 года назад
👍👍👍👍
@ARP-airriflepestings
@ARP-airriflepestings 4 года назад
thanks.
@GillesQuennevilleGQ
@GillesQuennevilleGQ 4 года назад
Maybe your liner is not a slug liner but a pellet liner....that happen that some guys have got the same delivery from FX distributors,,,,they received the pellet liner instead of the slug liner.
@ARP-airriflepestings
@ARP-airriflepestings 4 года назад
hi Gin. It was a slug liner. This gun was tuned to shoot the H&N 23gr slug really well out to 120 yards a week before this video. I found the C3 delrin bummer that I had replaced from factory was crashed partially when I took the gun apart while installing my new power plenum. I also checked and found the velocity had dropped from 917fps to 907fps. I know slugs need to run faster so perhaps that was why the grouping for the slugs were terrible that day. I am currently retuning my Impact with the power plenum and hopefully I can push the slugs faster and find the optimal speed it prefers to shoot sub MOA again. Thanks for watching. have you seen my coyote2 vid yet?
@GillesQuennevilleGQ
@GillesQuennevilleGQ 4 года назад
Air Rifle Pestings Yes i did see your coyote2. Very good shot. Bravo.
@ARP-airriflepestings
@ARP-airriflepestings 4 года назад
@@GillesQuennevilleGQ thank you.
@jovicmonpolizon5606
@jovicmonpolizon5606 4 года назад
You cannot compare groups with different projectile with same tune settings.
@ARP-airriflepestings
@ARP-airriflepestings 4 года назад
Agree. But I was testing my set up with the ammo I was using to see what I can do at 100 yards. I understand slugs need to be pushed faster but the test result was a positive surprise to learn the JSB redesign can obtain good accuracy with the right combination of reg, hammer spring and speed.
@ridinrocks
@ridinrocks 4 года назад
You may need to push the slugs a bit faster or slower to tighten up the groups . If only jsb made .25cal 33.95gr hades!!!!
@ARP-airriflepestings
@ARP-airriflepestings 4 года назад
I agree. I have my power plenum set up now so the speed is higher. Will need to do another video to test the accuracy at 100 yards again. thanks for watching.
@ridinrocks
@ridinrocks 4 года назад
@@ARP-airriflepestings thanks for sharing
@bern7918
@bern7918 4 года назад
Perhaps the barrel liner needs cleaning.
@ARP-airriflepestings
@ARP-airriflepestings 4 года назад
yes I thought so too. I cleaned the barrel that night and it was very dirty. I did some shots a couple of days later. I hit what I was aiming at, although not at 100 yards.
@airsharpshooting2858
@airsharpshooting2858 4 года назад
This is not correct comparison. Pellet choice is basically 3 version. jsb 16gr, 18gr and redisaign. Slug choice is more then pellet, at last 15-20 version and accordingly finding best result is more hard. and second one. slugs is better up 100-120 yards. It has more Ability to resist wind. If you are hunter or varmint shooter, your choice will be slug.
@ARP-airriflepestings
@ARP-airriflepestings 4 года назад
thanks for the comment. I was just testing how my gun performs with each different projectiles. Obviously the speed plays an important role here.
@airsharpshooting2858
@airsharpshooting2858 4 года назад
@@ARP-airriflepestings Yes that's true.
@ARP-airriflepestings
@ARP-airriflepestings 4 года назад
@@airsharpshooting2858since I upgraded my power plenum, I am able to shoot the H&N 23gr .218 at 945fps which gives me the best grouping thus far. I haven't had the time to retune for heavier slugs or higher reg pressure because I don't want to mess with the gun at the moment. too many starlings to shoot lol. When things slow down, I might retune or test different weight and speed.
@erwino024
@erwino024 3 года назад
What is the fps on jumbo redesign?
@ARP-airriflepestings
@ARP-airriflepestings 3 года назад
925 fps with the redesign. thanks for watching.
@hadibakalm3516
@hadibakalm3516 3 года назад
Which scope? and which sight shot cam?
@ARP-airriflepestings
@ARP-airriflepestings 3 года назад
I used a Canon G16 at the box and my side shot GoPro 6 with an after market lens as my scope cam.
@hadibakalm3516
@hadibakalm3516 3 года назад
@@ARP-airriflepestings thank you
@ARP-airriflepestings
@ARP-airriflepestings 3 года назад
@@hadibakalm3516 you are welcome.
@eldairfirmiano7181
@eldairfirmiano7181 4 года назад
fps jsb 25.40 Brasil ?
@ARP-airriflepestings
@ARP-airriflepestings 4 года назад
907fps with the JSB 25.4gr
@ac07milan
@ac07milan 4 года назад
fps for the redesign plz
@ARP-airriflepestings
@ARP-airriflepestings 4 года назад
900fps with JSB 25.4gr 918fps with H&N 23gr .218
@ammepcpbg4517
@ammepcpbg4517 3 года назад
vietnam helo 👍👍👍
@ARP-airriflepestings
@ARP-airriflepestings 3 года назад
thank you.
@stewartgash5090
@stewartgash5090 4 года назад
very confusing
@ARP-airriflepestings
@ARP-airriflepestings 4 года назад
as in? if you referring to my shot gun pattern groups, then yes, lol.
@antj211
@antj211 11 месяцев назад
Those slugs shot horrible
@ARP-airriflepestings
@ARP-airriflepestings 11 месяцев назад
lol, yes this video was old. Please check out my newest video where I shoot the H&N 25gr Gen2 slugs.
@antj211
@antj211 11 месяцев назад
@@ARP-airriflepestings With the accuracy of those pellets why would you want to shoot slugs?
@ARP-airriflepestings
@ARP-airriflepestings 11 месяцев назад
@@antj211 I shoot slugs over longer distance and windy condition. Pellets still work well in my Impact up to 75 yards and calm days.
@antj211
@antj211 11 месяцев назад
@@ARP-airriflepestings lol you just showed pellets at 100yds smoking those slugs but to each his own
@ARP-airriflepestings
@ARP-airriflepestings 11 месяцев назад
@@antj211 Yes, back then I didn't tune my gun to shoot the slugs well. I am currently shooting 25gr slugs at 984 fps and I get good accuracy out to 100 yards now.
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