The Curious Case of J.M.W Turner's Later Works | Raiders Of The Lost Art | Perspective 

I totally agree hat Turner should be considered the first Impressionist, how could he not be? Monet admitted that he was influenced by him.

he definitely could be but since he is not regarded as one so i understand your teacher's disdain, still calling that " ridiculous" is a bit rude and uncalled for...

There are those that are taught to teach and then there are those that know there subject (they are not the same)- Turner is obviously a forerunner of the Impressionists who adopted his style as theirs, therefore I totally agree with you that he is the first Impressionist. However do bear in mind he is English and lower class therefore he cannot be either creative or avant garde - only the French can be that.

Yes, a dogmatic art teacher could stifle discovery, the whole purpose of art.

We've all be exposed to short-sighted teachers. Their stupidity stays with us for a lifetime.

I can fully accept that! As someone who has been myopic all my life, Turner is just painting what We see. The cataracts are definitely likely.

Yes. I read that maybe 40 years ago. Makes sense but he still put small details in the widest pictures and white paint goes yellow with age. The ophthalmologist might have been referring to paintings before restoration - the effect can be very dramatic.

​@@cuebjsmall details could be like how deaf people can still make music and deaf piano players can go on to play. He already had the knowledge imagination and the hand But if he was seeing a white sky as yellow he would make a mistake, but not if he couldn't really see a bird properly

I have ptsd and these are interesting and relaxing I need peaceful educational videos there's too much noise in the world art is a sanctuary for the brain and soul

OMG this is exactly what I am doing right now!

Geez as a composer I gotta say dude that's all you got?

@mike adan klliklk

David Roberge. Great analogy

@Syd McCreath Welcome to, RU-vid?

It was provoking I must agree.

T S Go back and listen to the narrative of the expert from Tate. He was deliberately vague; however, the thieves were identified and arrested, but they had already handed off the paintings to unidentified person or persons unknown. If you listen, you will hear the man say that the Tate put out the word, sub rosa, that they would pay a finder's fee for information leading to the recovery of the paintings. They received many leads which were followed up and eventually first one painting and then the second was returned. Presumably finder's fees were paid, but the exact details will probably never be known outside the art world.

@@kathleenmckenzie6261 I assume there must have been some sort of agreement between the Tate and the "finder" that the details of the transaction and the identity of the "finder" would remain a secret. What I can surmise from all this is that the "finder" may have been in some way involved with the theft, or, at the very least, was familiar enough with the black market that they were able to broker a deal between whoever had the paintings and the Tate. Which means that this person, whoever they are, could be guilty of crimes related to theft or sale of stolen art, or something to that effect. My guess is that the Tate would rather pay the fee and allow that person (and any others involved) go free, rather than risk losing the paintings forever. It's a bit like paying a ransom to get a loved one back, really. The only problem is that, as someone in this documentary correctly pointed out, this sets a precedent and encourages potential thieves to "kidnap" works of art and then ask for "ransom money" to return them to the museums/galleries they were stolen from.

@@babablacksheepdog Exactly! You explained it much better than I did. Thank you. It's amazing the fraud and theft that goes on in the art world and the public seldom, if ever, hears about it.

@Syd McCreath oh so very clever of you. Did your mom not breastfeed you as an infant?

@Syd McCreath how did you know, are you spying on me ?

Are you one of the learned people asked to appear in this show?

Exactly!

Madness

You might fancy art historians also having some musical taste, alas.

Why do you say that? Maybe he grew as an artist and saw past just reproducing scenes and found a new vision of the world! No imagination at all!

@@catofthecastle1681 Actually, dear, those of us with poor eyesight think that all the time! If you want to fantasise, carry on! But I have Turner's Every day of my Life when I take my glasses off. I don't need to 'Imagine' Ain't I lucky? Actually I am. I see light differently without glasses to with, so I can flip from one to the other, no 'imagination' required. It is there, in front of me! For example I have a street light across the road. If I look at it through my glasses it is a street lamp If I look at it without glasses it becomes a bright nimbus surrounded by an aura of rainbow light. Maybe that is what Turner got too. Sorry to burst your poetic bubble

Not to mention tossing his ill mother into one of the worst asylums.

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Melodramatic, exactly.

Ever heard of uBlock or Adblock browser extensions?

Art isn't for stumps like you.

No Adblock or uBlock browser extensions, ignorance about the worldwide commissioned art-theft business and wrong spelling of Januszczak's name (whom I myself abhor for his constant attempts of smuggling pro-catholic propaganda he was unlucky to be fed as a child into every possible documentary he's ever in). Dislike to you too.

@@OstblockLatina Pretty sure there's an H somehere in the name, so you aren't doing that great either. And no, definitely have no feelings for world-wide art theft business, and definitely not going to watch any fear-porn related to that subject. Adblock on youtube is stealing from the youtubers, so this F is for U.

@@OstblockLatina I've watched pretty much all of Waldy's major art films and have seen no Catholic propaganda and I'm an atheist who was raised by a Roman Catholic so I'm on the lookout for that sort of thing. Just relax. Deep breaths.

You complained about ads, then defended them. 😂 ok

👋 Bye

Perspective is a great channel

Good