Morley Safer reports on the rising trend of "redshirting," delaying kindergarten until children are 6 years old. Will this make these students more successful in school and life?
Redshirting is fine as long as the 6 year old will remain 6 throughout that year. With my 2 cents, a 7 year old is much too old for kindergarten. You may as well skip over kindergarten then. If you haven't taught your kids the basics before age the age of 6, that's your problem.My nephew could be redshirted and that wouldn't surprise me. He has some behavioral issues and is immature for his age. He can easily start kindergarten at age 6 since he has an August birthday. He'll either enter kindergarten next September or be redshirted. And if he does, that wouldn't really surprise me. Entering at age 6 may be far more benefiticial for him than entering at age 5
I have an October birthday. My parents redshirted me and I hated it. Being the oldest in class does not guarantee that you'll be a leader at all. Rather, all your classmates expect you to be a leader. I mean, true glory is when you're smarter than kids in your own age group, not smarter than kids a year younger than you. I felt so humiliated. There were a lot of kids in the grade above me who were younger than me. Kids would always ask me why I wasn't in the grade above, and what was I supposed to tell them? It's not like it was my decision. And look at it this way. If you send your child on time, and then later, see that it was a mistake, you can always hold them back a grade. However, if you redshirt your child, and later, see that it was mistake, it's too late to fix that. So send your child on time and that way, you still leave both doors open.
I have a question. Were you redshirted the year when you four and about to turn five, or when you were five and about to turn six. If it is the former, then you started kindergarten when you were five and the later, when you were six. For example I was born in December 1997, and I started kindergarten in September 2003 in Georgia. I was supposed to start in September 2002 when I was 4 years old, but the cut off was September 1st, so I had to repeat pre-school and watch my friends go on to kindergarten. I then moved to Massachusetts in 3rd grade, and where I go to school, the kids in my grade started school with a December 31st cut off date. With that it meant I was one of the few kids in my grade born in 1997. This made me feel so hurt knowing that most of my classmate were born the year after me. Of course even though the cut off was December 31st, a few parents with children with birthdays from September to December waited until their kids were five before letting them enroll in kindergarten. This means that I'm not the only kid born in 1997, which makes make happy. With that said a lot of parents enrolled their kids with fall birthdays when they were fours years old, and because of that I know kids who are almost a year younger than me. Because of that, I sometimes still wish I had stared school in 2002 and be in the "correct" grade. Still, I only wish of it sometimes. That's because if I was in the class of 2015, and not the class of 2016, I would not be friend with most of the kids that I'm with now. P.S. If you read this, don't forget to answer my question. Also sorry if there are typos. It's 12 in the morning ad I don't feel like editing.
+pokeplatinum50 I had a similar experience. And I didn’t like that at all. Would you rather be in the grade you were supposed to be despite having a late birthday in winter or a younger age to have the same birth of year?
As a Mother I agree with you completely and so would my 23 year old son. I was pressured by the teachers and held back my son and he hated it. He was bored out of his mind and by the time he hit 11 years of age he figured out he was the oldest in his class each year and wondered why. Redshirting did NOT help him become a leader, it did not give him an advantage at sports or "dating" girls (hated sports and girls fell at his feet left and right, that was not thanks to REDSHIRTING) and he didn't drive a car until after age 18. The biggest problem we faced as a family DUE TO REDSHIRTING, was that he could not be held back another year due to failing grades, since he already was behind. From 5th grade to High School, it was a struggle to keep him advancing and made life miserable. My advice to all parents out there is either have kids in the winter or keep your children in the grades they are supposed to belong in and if their grades fail and they fall behind one year it'll be from their own doing. That is HOW KIDS MATURE ACADEMICALLY. It is a GREAT life lesson that their actions or inactions will have consequences they need to face. You can't make that decision for them.
My birthday is Nov. 21 and I was the youngest, and I always had the highest grades in my class. It's because I worked hard for those grades. I was a leader as well. Why? Because people looked up to me and I would always help people who needed it. I moved to New York City from Afghanistan in the summer and then started 3rd grade at 7. Even though I barely knew English I was one of the highest achieving students in my grade (the highest in my class), and I loved the fact that I was the youngest and could do things as well as the older students, or sometimes better. I started college at 17 and loved it. I didn't graduate a valedictorian though because I chose hard classes for the challenge of it, and it ended up being a lower average, but I prefer challenge. I am 19 now and a sophomore and I love college and I will be graduating this year, because I took college classes in high school.
Whoever thought of this redshirting absolutly disgust me. You must be a sick person for even thinking its ok. I was redshirted and was always confused and bullied. I was always asked why im older than everyone. Plus i was going to graduate highschool by age 19 by 19!. I almost wasted my whole 18th year being in highschool. Luckily i dropped out and paid money to get my highschool diploma. And always remember kids will learn and catch on eventually i mean cmon they believe in santa until you tell them he isnt real. If you have kids and the school wants to redshirt them remember theyll graduate at age 19 or before they turn 19. Your birthday shouldnt stop you from going into the next grade.
Same dude im in middle school qnd i was held bqck and im older then everyone in the grade and this redshirting is horrible I was really badly bullied and other problem and now I'm home schooled at my dad's but I'll be with my mom soon at school so if I anymore but I do are with you tho
I think your birthday was too early in the year for you to be redshirted because my birthday is july 30 and I’m gonna graduate when I’m 17. I also wish I had been redshirted because I’m an athlete. Don’t let your bad experience lead you to believe “you must be a sick person for even thinking it’s ok”
@@negrusarticulus3852Redshirting is bad if the child is ready, if they’re not I could understand. All redshirting does is make the kid think he’s stupid because he’s the oldest and majority of the other students are not even born in the same year as them. I know your comment is 3 years old but I had to say this.
The guy who says there’s no advantage and outcomes are 50/50 proves to be a liar in his final sentence by saying “it’s inequitable….. it can’t be 50/50 and unfair. The guy obviously doesn’t like that it’s unfair so he made up some BS that it doesn’t make a difference.
balljulia2424 I disagree with redshirting on every level, but what you have to remember is that the redshirted child had no say in when they started school. I know that if it had been up to me, I would have gone to school on time, and I'm sure most redshirted kids feel the same way. Your parents could have just as easily made the decision to redshirt you, and then you'd just be attacking yourself. We didn't chose to be villians.
Hey, not every 5 year olds are ready for kindergarten. Mainly behavioral and social reasons. My nephew who is currently 4 may have to be redshirted and the way I see it, having him have to enter kindergarten at age 6 would be far better than having him repeat it. Some 5 year olds like my nephew will be next August, may not be intellectually mature enough (delayed) if my nephew enters kindergarten next year, I'll be surprised.
I would have thought that mother's message to all parents would be: "Spend time with your child, help them with their homework, and teach them social skills so that they can be the best they can be, no matter how old they are compared to their peers." Not "conceive at a specific time so you can beat the red-shirters at their own game." Public school is trash anyway. I'm going to home-school. That's the best way for kids to learn at their own pace. Like the video said, kids develop at individual rates, so I'll work with that, not against it.
I find it funny how people give only their individual accounts of red-shirting. And by all means if it doesn't affect you and your successful then all power goes to you. But if you read outliers you would know that the cut off date had a huge impact of success rates in professional sports. In Czech, nearly all of the hockey places had birthdays Janurary, Febuary, and March; this is because the cut off date was on Janurary, which meant that kids had a higher chance f becoming successful because they were stronger and more athletically capable then someone who was only just a year under them. The statistics don't lie, your birthday has a huge impact on whether you will be successful.
I was sent into kindergarten 2 weeks after I turned 5. I can honestly say that the kids held back in preschool always had an unfair advantage. It took me through sophomore year to catch up with the other kids. Maturity and academically I was always behind the older kids. The oldest in the classes seem to have higher gpas and better chances of getting into college. I'm currently still 16, with 18 yr olds in my class. It is just unfair.
Holding your kids back doesn’t make the problem better, it makes the problem worse. I heard It’ll make them feel like they won’t make it in life and they could end up dropping out of school or coming down with depression. So if I were the parents, I’d just let my kid move on to the next grade, no matter what
it should be u have to be 5yrs old by Feb 10th way that way when Kindergarten starts Aug 10th then EVERYONE is 5.5 Or 6. bam issue solved. WHY aren't we doing this?!?!!!
I was held back because I wasn't old enough and all it did was make me feel bad about myself.. especially since I was the oldest in my class.. how can I be too young to be in the grade above if I'm the oldest.. I just finished the 6th grade and I'll be 13 really soon..
I know this is 5 years old but I feel the same way, I was born on December 2007 and my parents said I was definitely ready for school that year but the school said I had to wait another year because I was born “late”, so im the class of 2026 instead of 2025. Sometimes I think about I could’ve been in 11th grade and how my life could’ve been different. I hope you’re doing good anyways bro.
I was always the youngest in my class (I started school early) and I was fine... it's not like I was behind the other kids or anything, even though I was always closer to the age of the kids in the grade behind me. If anything, it made the other kids think I was smarter because I was the youngest there Plus I'll graduate sooner than all the other kids my age which is nice Edit: Another bad thing about redshirting I just realized is that you have to be in a different grade than your friends- my best friend in preschool was redshirted and that's how our friendship ended, I went off to kindergarten and she had to stay back
I’m a senior in high school now, my birthday is july 30 and I’ve always been one of the youngest in my class. I was a really bright 5 year old so academically my parents didn’t have much reason to hold me back. But now I’m being recruited to play division 1 athletics, and I can’t help but think about what that year of maturity could have done for me. A lot of the schools recruiting me want me to redshirt as a freshman or take a postgraduate year at a prep school. In my opinion there’s no disadvantage to redshirting as long as your kid’s birthday is past May or so
hi there if your birthday is within 1 month or 2 of the cutoff And then you get redshirted i doubt anyone will even notice. But when you are the youngest kid by a month or 2 everyone always seems baffled you aren’t in the previous grade.
I was youngest but NEVER a follower. With that ignorant statement it’s clear she doesn’t believe in her own child’s abilities, she is only projecting her own insecurities onto others. That’s sad. I graduated at 17yrs old and didn’t struggle academically nor socially. Maybe she shouldn’t try to speak for everyone? No parent should…
Holden Corby is the lucky one. A parent with both the common sense and the Intelligence to understand nonsense when she hears it. What I hear in Barrett's mother's voice is that famous "high rising terminal" in her speech made famous by Valley Girls and other superficial, not-so-deep thinkers. Kindergarten is the introductory lesson to life at school and getting along with other kids. Kindergarten is not a place where the school plays host to a parent's vicarious ambitions.
this is despicable. That makes it unfair for the other students who have to compete with students a year older. That baseball mom just ooozes her self esteem from the knowledge that her son is bigger than all the other kids.
1. Redshirting = keeping your kids from the hard lessons of failure. This means they will not learn how to deal with failure. They won’t develop tenacity. I posit that it can be highly beneficial for children to come up against adversity. Napoleon was little throughout his life. I don’t think anyone will argue his leadership abilities, or his accomplishments.
So, the opposite happened to me. I was a 5 year old in a class of 6 year olds. I was held back “officially” because I was having trouble with the curriculum. Unofficially, they told me I was held back because of my August summer birthday. So, what would I be considered an “unredshiritng”?
I had never heard of this until this year. My son is 5 and in Kindergarten with a July 24th Birthday. We are retaining him because of his maturity level when it comes to his work. He can read and write but when it comes to certain things like writing stories, he struggles to put it to the paper. When i saw the work that he will have to do next year I thought it would be better just to retain him. i dont want to see him struggling and hating school. I think i made the right decision.
Redshirting. For real. Parents should look at both sides.If you hold your child back and they start at six, they may be in school with 4 and 5 yr olds who may be just as smart if not smarter then their child. The child may also feel like their in a room full of babies. They also may come off as the class bully. My child started KG the week she turn 5 and is smart as a whip. Honor student in the 10 gd.and never held back. We all want the best for the kids.I'm just saying. Redshirting.REALLY !!!
Where I'm from, a 4 year old wouldn't be enrolled in kindergarten. And I'm sure there aren't a whole lot of 4 year old kindergarteners. I can imagine they would be quite disenvantages by a slew of reasons.
In Japan kids start kindergarten at the age of 3. The truth is the earlier the better. As far as in the African American community percentage wise the ones who graduated at 17 are more successful. which would be considered by most lost unadvised lazy parents to be to early. I think as Parents we might as well look at school for our kids like the foreigners do especially the Asian kids. Most Asian kids never are redshirted and most are in the top of there classes. If you are a parent and are thinking of redshirting your child. Do not do it.
Is it different than retaining a grade, failing and/or holding one back? And is it only kindergarten? Can this be applied to later years/grades like third? Is it something that can be opposed or is it required? If it is retaining/failing the stats here are almost complete opposite of others I was previously told.
If you are redshirting your child..... the parents are lost unadvised and are lazy Parents. And sports wise its always been the kids who played against a lot older kids and learned the sport earlier percentage wise are more successful.... and its the same with academics percentage wise...... Kids in Japan start kindergarten at the age of 3...... As far as the African American community the kids that graduated at the age of 17 percentage wise have been more successful
