I’d say for definite the 2000 size is better for casting . That said it also matters rod length. 6-7 foot I’d go with 2000 . Less than 6 feet I’d go with 1000 . But definitely 2000 casts further and retrieving is better . Great videos . Greetings from Ireland 🇮🇪 Tony
Yeah I love the Max Z Abu for Crappie fishing it's got a perfect retrieve speed for jigging and it sounds badass like metal bearings grinding doesn't make that plastic sound (which I abhore) like other reels in its price range
I no longer own any 500, or 1000 size reels because of your videos 😂 Sold them all and I have zero regrets. I use 8 lb braid, and the larger spools have eliminated wind knots for me. Thanks for the videos, always good stuff here.
Great wisdom victor. I wish you posted this video when I was more religiously into reel buying. I had to find this knowledge out the hard way. Once I had enough reels I realized that the only difference was the spool size between 1000 and 2000lt reels. I felt like such an idiot. I was stressing over which reel was the lightest by fractions of weight that I probably couldn’t even physically feel. I’m happy with the reels I have. I don’t regret any of my purchases. All the small details and nitpicking that we do comes with experience. You can only line twist so many times before you start cursing daiwa for putting a bushing instead of a bearing. The mathematical proofs were much appreciated. You have a vast amount of knowledge and experience and I respect that. The fact that this info is freely available makes me watch the whole video. Happy to see you feeling better and settling in to your new home!
Excellent advice. I've been obsessing over what action of rod would be best to throw kastmaster's on, when really I should just get out and fish instead.
My 7’6 UL bass pro shops airstream ptc absolutely launches a 1/4oz kastmaster across a lake. It think its slow action. Pretty good backbone and bending curve. Beautiful rod only $60. The only problem I have is the weight of the rod coming in at between 4-5 oz and the guide inserts are just the stainless steel material of the guide. I use 6lb mono on the rod so I’m not concerned about creating any notches in the guide, and tbh I don’t even know if braided line does that anymore either. It just feels a little cheap. I paired it up with a 2000 size bass pro shops signature series reel which is designed by daiwa. Its an awesome setup for kastmasters.
@@ifishcatfish I appreciate your response. I think you have me convinced to try the eradicator, slow taper special rod. I am looking for something to maximize the fun with smaller fish. You are the most honest and straight shooting fishing tackle reviewer that I have found.
"Stop worrying about everything and go fishing" Yeap I agree with you on that. So many people are getting too caught up with the fishing gear they have, they over complicate things. But yet I see it all the time where its not the fancy fishing gear that makes you catch fish. Its your skills as an angler.
: ). I like tackle as much as anybody else but even i dont know when i fish one of my own reels if its 1000 or 2000 size. I dont remember which is which and i dont care. I dont remember how many bearings does each reel have, EVENT THOUGH I MAKE THE REVIEWS. I don't remember these things because they are not important for me. If the reel feels nice I like it, and dont care how many bearings
I'm looking forward to seeing the expanded lineup for the Exist. I saw for the 18 Exist they had a huge JDM lineup of "finesse custom" 1000/2000 size reels with Magseal removed for lower inertia; hopefully they do the same for the 22 Exist. Very curious to see how they stack up against the next gen Vanquish in terms of inertia since the 22 Exist supposedly has lower inertia than previous models.
Great info, I've been looking around for someone that could make my Luvias Airity 21 Magless or somewhere to buy them already Custom. Would appreciate if you could point me that direction. Thanks on advance
@@jso275 Unfortunately, I'm not aware of any service that can remove Magseal from an existing reel to make it lower inertia. To clarify, the custom I was referring to wasn't a customized reel but the FCLT (Finesse Custom Light Tough) series within the 18 Exist family (ex. FCLT1000S-P). I have heard of a few finesse Daiwa LT reels without Magseal currently available: DSLT-2000SS (a thread on TackleTour says it might be a tuned 2020 Luvias LT) and the 21 Presso (caution: a few early reviewers reported inconsistent quality between reels). If you are looking for a great low-inertia reel in general I'd recommend the Shimano 19 Vanquish (plus Victor has thoroughly characterized this reel on this channel so you know what you are buying). If you want the best low inertia reel possible I'd wait for the next gen Vanquish or FCLT 22 Exist lineup to be released. Definitely will be a very pricey option, though. Note: Apparently the FC designation doesn't guarantee that all the Magseals are removed. The Luvias Arity spec page says that the FC model still has a Magseal on the pinion gear.
Victor nice explanation. Looks like an awsome reel collection. Did pick up a newer 2000 size Shimano Complex already had a 2500 size. Now if the rod ever arrives! Lloyd like you can expand in your new office, think your son will like the size of it later on. Hope weather is nice!
Do you have a preferred backing line? I just got a new 2000 legalis and dont want to fill it with a ton of 4lb fluoro, feels wasteful. Also I have an old 1000 legalis and I like the gold color more but want a 2000 size spool. Do you know of any options in just buying and replacing the spool? Thanks!
i buy the cheapest line i can find on ebay. Also, sometimes I use old line from other reels as backing. But make sure event he backing line is the right diameter. Putting thicker line as backing line will mess up your line lay on top.
Hey victor. I appreciate the videos very informative. When it comes to jdm ul reels. Do you have a favorite reel at the 200 price point and the 300 price point? Looking back at some of your older videos which varivas line do you still use? Don’t do much crappie and white bass fishing in my area. Mostly stocked trout in Northern California for me but see a lot of similarities. Many thanks. Again very informative videos.
U will have to pick between the Vanford reels and Luvias. They have different advantages and disadvantages. Watch my video 'Reel Buying Guide' where i go over the differences. Im not typing all that here. As for Varivas, i still use their Polyester line, thats my #1 for jigging.. and i love all of their monos for float fishing. I did find one bad line though - EOS something... that line was breaking at 50% of strength. Maybe bad batch or something. Everything else has been great.
I just ran across an online store called Scheels that has a line of reels branded under their name but are built for them by Daiwa. Priced at $60, $80, $100 and $130, in sizes 1000 and 2500, and look to be based largely on the equivalently priced versions of the Daiwa LT spinning reels themselves ($60 Regal, $80 Exceler, $100 Fuego, and I’m not sure what Daiwa model would come in at $130). The $60 model actually has a thread in handle instead of the hex shaft with a screw cap. Bearing counts on them seem to be higher than the same priced Daiwa (except in the Regal price range), they are as high as 11 on the upper end model. Also, the highest priced one at $130 shows a photo of it having a cork handle and a super shallow spool but the line capacity specs seem like it would hold a more normal amount of line. Just thought you might like to know.
im aware of these; they've been selling them for a few years now. I was wondering if I should get one for review just to see what are the differences, but the series is too old now and about to be refreshed, so prolly too late..
I asked the Scheel’s salesman why they sell all the Daiwa reels but also sell a store brand reel made by Daiwa? I liked the way they looked, but I wondered whether or not they upgraded as often as Daiwa does. He said they do, but I tend to not believe him. He said that Scheel’s reels made by Daiwa have a better warranty…..so there is that. Still a mystery to me why they exist. I still wonder if theirs are a little better than Daiwa of the same price. Or not!
I’m betting they don’t upgrade as often as the Daiwa reels get updated. Bass Pro Shops has a line of reels made by Daiwa also and some of them are still being sold based on Daiwa designs from two updates ago.
TY for the intersting video! This season I plan to switch from Vanford 500 to Vanford c2000s reel for slightly bigger weights, smth around 1-1.5-2 gramms. If we would try to compare both of them side by side - there is a significant difference in sizes of spools, plus c2000s has different type of mechanism inside of the reel. So I guess it'll be interesting experience for me!)
yeah, the 500 doesn't have a worm gear to save weight. For me the 500 is strictly for ice fishing. To use it for regular fishing... u would have to use extremely thin line, or the coils will drive u nuts.
@@ifishcatfish nowadays in Russia becoming popular great kind of fishing so called .’mormishing’. Its extremely lightweight discipline. Usually it starts from 0,05 grams to 0,8-1 grams. 500 size is cool for that purposes!
It seems that a 1000 and 2000 reel size is just a marketing scheme since the differences are so minimal as to be negligible. This is probably the only case I’ll ever see where the cosmetic difference outweighs the physical difference.
Another thing I had been thinking about is with the 1000, later in the cast the angle between the line and lip increases faster than a 2000. Im not sure if you ever watch "the reel test" but he said BFS reels cast just as far as spinning reels but used a 500 sienna for comparison. I said he should use a 2000 and he basically hated on all the commenters that said it was an unfair comparison.
if you are talking about casting a 1 gram jig, i don't think what you are describing would make a measurable difference. But if you are casting 1 ounce weight at over 100 meters, then - yes, the angle with the lip can make a difference. But for 1 gram jigs it would matter more if the lip of the reel is clean and smooth, or is it dirty with water deposits and scratchy. The Reel Test is a complete idiot though, and all of his 'tests' are completely ridiculous
@@ifishcatfish from memory he was testing 4g and maybe even 7 at the end. He did I think 3 weights. In one video he said he has more reels than most viewers have IQ points. I wonder what God thinks of that...
I always buy 2500 size reels. In the past I've gone all the way down to a 500 size reel and man, the wind knots on those...Either way, I still prefer the 2500 is all situations. I also use the buy the lowest gear ratios I could find but I hated the fact that the handles were shorter, so I stopped doing that as well. In my experience longer handles = lower inertia :)
@@ifishcatfish Hey Victor, you should also let them know that it’s not always best to go with the lightest reel, it’s best to go with the weight that balances the rod & reel.
Love the video and glad you were able to provide excellent psychotherapy for the troubled. Loved that shot of the deer and salt lick. You should get a few more and attract a few more.... maybe a small herd. The more deer you have the more deer ticks you will have and....the better chance at Lyme disease. It's probably ok since your kids will not be playing outside much. I've starting to get into BFS baitcasting. It's tremendous fun but addictive.
my kids do play there. I play there with them too.. I practice casting BFS right there... I have like a 100 meter shot from one side to the other. Gives me a chance to respool my line
Two questions regarding interchangeability Victor, would a Shimano C2000 spool fit a 1000 body in the Shimano range say Vanford? Wouldn't the rotors be different between a 1000 and C2000 reel? I have a 1000 Vanford and want to buy a separate spool (C2000) from Japan and want to know if I'll have issues with fitment...
it will fit, look how much extra space u have under the rotor. It is the travel that is important, but because the body is the same, the travel up and down is the same. The only reel that i know that has a different rotor is the Vanquish. Maybe some stellas... However even on the Vanquish i still think the spools are interchangeable because the travel is the same. So i think 1000 and 2000 spools are always interchangeable
Idea for some of the next videos content can be reel maintenance, where to put oil and where grease, which type of grease and do we need to calculate which type do we need to use according to the way we expect that reel work. I did some research about this subject and I have my own opinion but I'm looking forward to hear yours 🙂 best regards! ✌️
Realistically, IMHO, if we want efficiency and fun during fishing, its best to have a balance set.. that is, understanding the best pairing between you Rod - Reel - Mainline - Leader - Lure for your target fish. 1000 v 2000, the difference may not be necessarily felt significantly during actual casting or hook up. Only Things that will change / increase slightly are - spool size, resulting in increase of line capacity and casting distance.
And the c2500 is also the same body size? In my case i have the vanford c2500shg and i want to use it on ultralight only by changing spool to 2000, is it possible?
Just found this video. I have a Vanford C2000SHG and bought it because it is ”compact”. The salesperson told me it means the body is the same size as 1000, which is technically correct, but what is the difference to non-compact model? How is it smaller?
there is no noncompact 2000 model. They are all 'compact'. On one had it is redundant. On the other hand, it is like a tag for all reels where the body is one size smaller. C3000 means 2500 size. C5000 means 4000 size. In their defense it is difficult to put size of all components into one model number. Same body size can have different spools and even different rotors. There are 1000 size body reels with 2500 size rotor (C2500SHG). How do u put body/spool/rotor and gear size in one number? Even if you do it, it will be confusing. The only way would be to report them separately
@@ifishcatfish thank you, I thought there was. I went for shallow 2000 for casting distance with small lures, and the line capacity seems to be enough too. I love my Vanford and just bought an Ultegra (1000) after I saw your review on that. I bought both from Japan, Ultegra was about 80 euros and Vanford was about 140 few months ago, both a pretty good value for money. Maybe there was a little language barrier with the salesperson about the specs.
Dear Victor please end my misery, do you think the 9’ presso ultra light would survive trout trolling? We regularly catch cutthroats 18-24” 3-5 pounds. My current go to rods are a 9’ 5/6 weight fly rod and a 7’ med light shimano convergence spinning rod. The spinning rod isnt as supple as my fly rod though and i kinda want to see how light i can get away with. I dont totally hog the fish in, i do fight them and let them run. I agree that is the fun of it but i dont want to be too worried im gonna lose the big one cause my rod snapped. Thanks
I think the 9' Presso is the ULTIMATE trout trolling rod. There is no better rod on the planet for that. It will fight a 4 pound trout perfectly fine, loaded beautifully. The only thing you have to watch is the drag. U need to make sure u use around 0.5 lb drag while trolling. The only thing that can break the rod is YOU. If you forget to losen the drag and snag somewhere, or catch some catfish or something..
@@ifishcatfish haha thats quite the endorsement! Ive been flirting with trying ultralight and it sounds like the 9’ presso is a winner! Luckily theres no catfish around here and i know the shoreline quite well at both my usual lakes so it probably has a pretty good chance of survival
Ok, because I spend too much time reading Japanese fishing blogs rather than actual fishing... The 22 Stella and 23 Vanquish have a dedicated rotor on the 1000 and a 2500 rotor on the 2000, 2500. As such, interchangeability may not be possible. Only of concern for a few people but there it is!
i saw that too, but it may still work. All they did was make a smaller rotor for the 1000 size. But at least the 1000 size will be able to fit in 2000 size reel.
Hi Great video. I have a shimano vanford 1000. So I could buy a replacement spool for the shimano vanford 2000 and I could change the spools with each other. Would it work? Spool 2000 on the body of reel 1000? Thank you for your response
I just bought one 1000size from Japan. I would like to put Daiwa Presso sensor 2 + Si 0.3 on that reel. Is the daiwa presso pe as good as other light pe?
I have most of varivas trout pe. This time I hope to try the Daiwa presso sensor 0.3 pe. Since it has the same orange color and looks good. I just want to know what's your view on Daiwa's presso line.
Thank you for the great video! I have a question, how size of the reel interacts with a length of the rod? If i fish with a bolognese rod of 5-6 meters on float with light bait, is it ok to use 1000 or 2000 reel or it should be at least 2500.? Thank you in advance.
My channel And all of my experience is with ultrslight fishing. I have no experience with these superlong rods. My rods weigh 45 grams and need a light reel. But if u have a 5 meter rod that weighs half a kilo, then i dont see the point of 1000 size reel. Might as well go to 2500
@@ifishcatfish thank you very much sir. These rods are weighing 7 meters whip pole 244 grams and 6 meters bolo 233 grams, they’re too light for their length. I thought you were from the Balkans! like us and hoped you fished with these types of rods, like fishing skobar, mrena etc. However, keep up good videos! With respect!
@@visarshllaku2149 I left Bulgaria in 2001. There were no such rods back then.. But 245 gram is still very heavy. this is 5 Ultralight rods, but you have only one handle, and most of the weight is in the handle. I know those rods but i just have no experience fishing with them. But a Daiwa presso air ags 6'1 for 44 grams, and fish it for a month, and come here and reply again to this comment : )
HI Victor, Thanks for this Video! Gear ratios for Shimano models like Vanquish and Stellas would make a small difference I think.. I notice 1000ssspg are the only ones with low gear ratio 4.6:1 and 2000s only come in 5.1:1 and higher. 1000SSSDH also 5.1:1 but different handle. If your using hard baits it could make a difference keeping your lure on desired water column. But I could be wrong.. 😁
do u even fill your spool all the way to the top? Adding a little more line to your 1000 size spool would make it into 2000, if so you prefer. However I dare you to tell in a blind test if you are using 1000 or 2000
@@ifishcatfish hmm so this must be why the 21 presso is not called a “real” presso by many. I had assumed it would be of similar size to the 14 and 17.
@@jordanrawlins3994 No, thats not the reason. The reason is because it sux, it is just an orange Luvias. Either way, back to the video, you are trying to use it all wrong. The video doesn't say that different reels of same size are the same. It says that if you take ONE AND THE SAME REEL, in size 1000 and 2000, the only difference will be the spool.
@@ifishcatfish I understand, all I meant was that the presso seems to be different when comparing lt1000/lt2000 and 1025/2025. It just seemed weird that a presso 1025 and presso lt1000 are much different sizes. I think we agree. It’s an orange luvias and not a true presso like the 1025 before it.
@@jordanrawlins3994 Even back then that presso was a special size. Daiwa had a size called ABS or something like that. All reels from that size had wider spools than shimano, but the body was same like Shimano. Daiwa abandoned that strategy as it was making the reels heavier than shimano. It was never a Presso thing per se
Shimano vanford comes in 1000 and 2000 and that’s not the only reel lol. There is definitely a different in size between 1000 and 2000 reel size. Buy what you feel comfortable using.
I did not find the reel comparison between 1000 and 2500 size, did you managed to release it yet or not ? That’s the only option now available here where I am and I think it begins to be a little big for a 7ft UL rod ? Thank you in advance,
2500 is just a different size, everything is bigger, there is nothing confusing about it. However most people think that 2000 is bigger than 1000 and it is actually not, except the spool diameter. In high end reels even 1000 and 2500 size reels don't have a big weight difference, but in reels under $100 the difference between 1000 and 2500 size is huge
but ur fish go over 20" sometimes... so u not really in the UL business : ). You not even in the Light business. You are into Medium business, i would say..
I see the sedona saharas have same diameter spool on the 1000 and 2000S size. 42mm, just less line on the 2000S, which is stupid, I prefer more line much more flexible as you can cast more line out when need to, the 2000S would reach all the way to no line and possibly snap and loose all line and hook sinker if I cast little harder.
Sedona-Sahara - good one : ). I used to think that many years ago, but i changed my mind, and so will you, one day. You really don't need more than 100 feet of line when u fish, not 100 meters.. When u fish Ultralight anyway.
@@ifishcatfish i need to cast 3/4oz a few months a year and saltwater bank fishing once a while, further the better. the rest of time is ultra light, so more line is needed. you're on a boat thats why no need to cast far, you gotta think like most fishing ppl who cast from bank and all kinds of fish.
@@user-oc5ry8pp1p 3/4 is WAY TOO MUCH for tiny ultralight gears! I recommend people to go to larger size for lures over 5 gram, and 3/4 is like 20 grams.. Also Sedonna is the worst Sahara, and has no seals for saltwater. I am afraid you need two different reels. One 2500 size Nasci for saltwater and for heavy stuff, and one 1000 size ultralight for freshwater ultralight
I'm a 4th grade teacher. I keep telling my students we need to drop the customary system and strictly use the metric system. It makes so much more sense, but most Americans are stubborn and won't give it up.
No. What I mean that you can take ANY PART from one reel and put it on the other reel. ANY PART, NO EXCEPTION. I tell people no exception and they still ask me - what about this and that? There is no exception.
Hey Victor, do you find it annoying when someone (Americans) says for example 1.5 inches...I just think to myself, just convert to metric for God's sake, don't use a decimal point on an imperial measurement haha
This is a 32" monitor with 4K picture. There is no space for 2 of these on my desk, and even if there was, i would have to move my head left and right 30 degrees. Alternative is two small monitors with 1080P but i can't see well on those, particularly for editing. For work i prefer two small ones, because detail is not important. but for editing i was a big monitor with high resolution. Try it and then go back!
