References To Fallout 1 And Fallout 2 In Fallout 4 

Yeah I keep forgetting that only a few people really know what happened down there. Which is understandable because the sole survivor would hate to relive that traumatic moment every time.

You do realize that you can take that interview with Piper and mentioned what happened in the Vault. I don't remember if you say that you're the only survivor, but you can say that you were frozen for over 200 years.

Just like how they call the Lone Wanderer the Vault Dweller in-game, when he’s called the Lone Wanderer in the narrations.

​@@GoblinFromOblivionThree dog calls you the lone wanderer while on the radio

@@SonTaicario Three Dog does call you the Lone Wanderer sometimes, but he also calls you 'the Vault Dweller' and 'the kid from Vault 101'

i was just thinking that, and i though "Maybe he was working for the Shi by the time of Fallout 2" but no, he would already be 62 by 2241, which kinda contradicts how he looks in-game

​@@lonely_guacamole Shaun was kidnapped in 2227, so Kellogg would have already been with the institute before the events of Fallout 2.

@@Whiterun__Guard yeah i figured that out already

He's also highly modified with institute tech, he probably has a lot of tech keeping him going

Considering the institute having the technology it doesn't really seem out of reason at all​@@lonely_guacamole

No shame in that. I can understand why you would miss that because you’re probably focused on the interactive moments(you know clicking on each character to hear Kellogg’s thoughts). All of us miss some fun details in these fallout games.

Took me a few playthroughs myself to notice it.

I saw it in my first playthrough. I like looking around when I play Fallout games.

Its awesome, but lets be honest, after the first time, you really do want to skip it. Awesome seeing the NCR I will admit.

@@aaronlaughter6471 When I replay games, I usually give a 1-3 year span so most of my memory goes down the toilet and it isn't too annoying replaying stuff. But around the first time, things hit the hardest. I was a younger man when F04 came out and I was screaming when I had my copy in my hands, walking back from the shopping centre because I was so excited to play it. Obviously on retrospect you can see what a turd it is, but I still like it.

@@aaronlaughter6471 honestly I’m kind of the opposite. I’ll never understand how players can just want to skip over heavy story moments in video games on a second play through(especially when it comes to RPG’s). In every Fallout or even Mass Effect games, I always want to replay every single heavy story moment because it’s just that much fun. However I will admit the ONLY thing I would want to skip, is the DIMA puzzles. Ugh I despise that one lol 😂

@Steel-101 you get to feeling that when you played the absolute shit out of a game. Example for me. The Mass Effect trilogy, I love them so much, yet played them so much I can't even stand to play them.

@@aaronlaughter6471 well dude the trick is to take breaks. RPG games are very slow paced and doing a play through back to back will drive you crazy. You have to either do something else like maybe ride a bike or just play a heavy action game. Then come back to it. That’s why I haven’t done the outpost building yet in Starfield because I did it too much in F4. I’m taking a long break from that and then I’ll get back into it.

And the Wasteland Survival Guide.

There's also Mr houses obituary which says he studied at the institute which I'd a reference to the replicated man

Psure it was a reference to Midwest BoS from Ceasar rather than DC BoS

​@@noddy1973Im almost certain it wasn't

Let's hope so

The show also noticeably steers clear from up north, no mentions of Arroyo or the Shi. Instead the show is going further east, while leaving north California alone.

I think fallout 5 will be chicago rouge brothhood to pump the show since there going hard with the BHS

@@johncusack2384 tbh I’d say it’s between Bay Area, New York or Chicago

@@johncusack2384 Why?

Then vault doors in the newer games unlock by going inside with an arm behind them, the original and the custom ones in 4 go outwards

Not rly otherwise they'd respect Fallout New Vegas

@@you-5-iver804how exactly do they disrespect it? I mean I feel disrespected as a fan with the product they’ve put out over the last couple years but, I don’t feel as if they’ve disrespected past games? Maybe I’m Missing something

@@willieb.haardigan8984 they disrespected the lore of previous games by retconning various established parts of the setting, progress made post-war by various organizations from fallout 1, 2, tactics and vegas are ignored to elevate east coast civilizations from bethesda's canon, there's also the infamous chems situation and the over-use of the brotherhood faction unrelated to lore, but definitely worst of all, they made obsidian work extremely hard on one of the tightest deadlines bethesda's ever given to a developer and even though in the end FNV is universally recognized as a better product than 3, 4 and 76, just because at the time it was ONE point off from an 85 metacritic score, they were denied a significant amount of their pay for the project since then, bethesda's guys have made every effort to keep the old fallout dev team away from the IP even though the majority of fans keep begging for it

@@noahsylvester1754 "retconning various established parts of the setting" Such as? New Vegas and Fallout 2 have also retconned established parts of the setting. "progress made post-war by various organizations from fallout 1, 2, tactics and vegas are ignored to elevate east coast civilizations from bethesda's canon" How should anything that happens on the West Coast have any impact on what happens on the other end of the continent? You're not making any sense. And then you go on to complain about BoS being featured heavily in Bethesda's games, even though it's literally an example of a West Coast faction progressing and having impact on the East Coast. And they also mention NCR in 3 and 4 and it will be featured in the TV show, so they definitely don't ignore it. "infamous chems situation" Such as? Even Fallout 2 stated that Jet existed before Myron supposedly created it. "over-use of the brotherhood faction" You literally mentioned Tactics, a game that is centered around the Brotherhood of Steel and shows them conquering Midwest. And did you forget about Fallout: BoS? Another game that is centered around the Brotherhood? Or how about the planned Fallout: Extreme, that would've showed BoS expanding all the way to Alaska? Maybe Bethesda just keeps the trend going because BoS is one of the staples of this series? "they made obsidian work extremely hard on one of the tightest deadlines bethesda's ever given to a developer" This is pure BS that has been disproven by the actual Obsidian themselves. Bethesda didn't force the deadline on them, Obsidian agreed to it. Obsidian's problem has always been poor time management, something that they have also admitted themselves. "just because at the time it was ONE point off from an 85 metacritic score, they were denied a significant amount of their pay for the project" Again with more BS. They weren't denied anything. Getting 85 score would only earn them bonus pay, something that Obsidian didn't even ask for. Bethesda offered it themselves. They didn't meet the requirement and so they didn't get the bonus. What's the problem exactly?

They like to rewrite history

I know right? Merry Christmas

Thank you, I will! Merry Christmas

Man id love another isometric fallout with the original art style, or see more of the original style worked into the new games, just something about 1 and 2 that hasnt been matched yet, with only nv coming anywhere near them (since it was pretty much fallout 3 itself)

@@soundabyss yet more glazing... touch grass my brother

@@ASlickNamedPimpback nah fo1 and 2 are great, you should give them a try

@@soundabyss im not talking about 1 and 2, im talking about NV

@@ASlickNamedPimpback ah, i mean it is the closest to the atmosphere and design of fallout 1 and 2 since it litterally takes place pretty close by where they did, fo3 and 4 just feel like theyre missing something and i dont really know what it is, hell even nv isnt quite a perfect match either honestly but its the closest and i wonder if it genuinely is just the perspective of the 3d games

not unpopular at all lmao

I loved 1 and 2, and I think the FPS approach is fine. However, if I was a fallout fan from the 90s I would hate Bethesda and everything they stand for.

@@mebruh5684 When Fallout 3 came out, I was looking forward...but was a bit disappointed (but I had high hopes, so my bad). I still though 1 and 2 are much better. Buuut that was somehow poink glasses of nostalgia and 3 fared a bit better (it was more approachable and finally no time limit as in 1 and 2 - but I think it was becuse of coding to prevent erratical behaviour of program). Then New Vegas was MUCH better than 3 and finally 4 is my most favourite. I had a lot of fun even with 76, which suprised me if I can be honest :D

Youre right it is unpopular, because most have actual critical thinking brains paired with actual taste. Fallout 4 is and always will be a pile of shit

@@hoesmad8626 Maybe and that´s fine. But critically overthinking everything may lead to constant discomfort, bad mood and never happy whenever something isn´t according to their will.

Womp womp

Bro it's on the other side of the country 🤣 you should be grateful they added this

im never greatful@@MrMadre

@@thecolourrose9022 Merry Christmas!

merry christmas? @@Tattle-by-Tale

Glad you liked it!

Fallout 4 as a whole is just wasted potential. The game's writting, in general, is completely lackluster.

@@bickboose9364On top of this everything Fallout 76 has *added* to the lore of the world has honestly completely shat on the pre-established lore of the first 2 games.

I'm dumbfounded by this information 😯

@@Johnny-zn5ld how so?

He’s a shit writer. Even I’m better at writing a starting quest. I know that the minutemen should be able to be killed

Not anymore! NATE THE RAKE

and he backtracked on it, so its unconfirmed now

You too! Merry Christmas!

Even if they allow Obsidian to make a new game, it's no longer the same team from 2010 and it would be a lackluster

just remake fallout 1 and 2 into 3d games

@@Santi-vr6rmThen Just hire Sawyer and Avellone dammit we don’t ask for much

@@Santi-vr6rmno, but Tim Cain and Leonard boyarsky work there and they created the original fallout. Be nice to have both them along with sawyer and avellone on the team for the next game. Would’ve been nice if they were involved in the show which I’m sure is going to ignore a ton of lore and the story of the early fallout games too.

Todd is open to the idea, but the Obsidian higher ups would likely turn them down. They're the ones that denied the developers the extension that Bethesda offered to Obsidian to finish Vegas, after all.

Wow are you Nostradamus

yes, it's a channel on youtube.

I have bad english lol

@@jogs2217 better than americans!!

I think that's one of the tracks from fallout 1 and 2

Tell me you've never played Fallout 3 without saying you haven't played Fallout 3.

​@@hermos3602Bugthesda bad because Creetosis and hbomberguy said so.

All of the writers at Bethesda like Fallout and made a lot of suggestions for the game, suggestions that were ignored by the main writer who recently tried to say that Nate was a War Criminal.

@@starhammer5247 Yeah ik it's wierd. You can clearly tell his only interaction with Fallout 1 is the 420p intro reupload on youtube & he wanted to look smart

Glad you like it!

Most of it isn't canon.

They mention the brotherhood having airships in the Midwest in 4, so that part of tactics at least is canon

in bethesda fallout they're junked up psychos, plain and simple

Basically yes , the t-45 was invented in 3 Moreover the t-51 was stated to be the state of the art power armor before the enclave came with their advanced power armor, only for the t-60 to be inserted into the series but now they have sort of changed it as a refurbishment of the t-45 with the t-51 still being the better suit.

T-51 was the only pre-war power armor in 1 and 2. Enclave power armor / advanced combat powered armor as Sgt. Dornan calls it was invented by the Enclave in the 2200's (there are some Enclave soldiers on the oil rig in T-51 armor and T-51 can be used to disguise yourself as a member of the Enclave). 4 retconned it to be X-01 experimental armor developed 15 minutes before the bombs dropped or whatever.

Have you not played Fallout 3?

And it wasn't

​@@VegetaLF7it did

let's hope it never releases

It will, but youtube channels with bitch and moan that it's not out yet. @@noahsylvester1754

Bethesda has made it very clear that Elder Scrolls 6 is most likely their top priority after the new Fallout 76 update and the Fallout 4 remaster, don’t know where you’re finding these “clowns” but the fans are surprisingly more patient than you think

@@audiovisualcringe Not F4, F3 and Oblivion.

This is false. Within three hours, the guy that made that statement walked it back and said it was his headcanon.

@@starhammer5247 Darn you Bethesda

that's just Bethesda's head writer having a mental breakdown

To be fair he did kill our player characters spouse.

​@@Pigeonwhogotburnt Yeah fuck him. Dude kills your wife/husband and then kidnaps your baby.

Lol We Americans love our 'unique' interpretations of foreign accents. You should hear our Scottish, Russian and German if you think Curie's bad

@@ClericOfPholtus yeah my english teacher told me American people loves french accent but in the Curie voice, she don't make any effort to hind the accent.

Like what?

It's funny because even Fallout 3 had multiple references to Classic Fallout. It even has references to Tactics. It just shows the people who think Bethesda ignores the original games don't pay attention themselves.

so cool they made references 2 the past games! lets completely forget all the other stuff they retconned!!!

​@sanchez right now i can only think of the creation of jet, which can be debated on because myron was a fucking smartass and he could easily had found pre war jet and reverse engineered it to make it again then proceeded to never mention it already existed

​@@wagnarsanchezThey didn't really retcon shit. Only retcons I can think of are so small that they're completely forgettable.

If there's "plenty" then can you list at least some of them? Let me guess: you'll mention Jet, X-01 and T-60 even though they have clear explanations?

​@@Lazy_Sloth1138the x-01 already existed for a long time with the enclave in fallout 2 but with the t-60 but what is this sh it the good thing is that there is a mod where it repairs that inconsistency by placing the old t-51b the x-02 is a retcon and then with the design of the enclave in 2, in comparison the x-02 is uglier

@@Lazy_Sloth1138Exactly. I can't even think of one good retcon Bethesdas made.

@@Lazy_Sloth1138Jet is so weird. I kinda like the idea that Myron didn’t make it though, just to get one last little “Fuck you” to him.

T51 didn’t exist in fallout 1 and 2

Let's not go that far

Careful there, you'll attract the Vegas fuckboys.

It's pathetic how much these games live rent-free in the heads of manchildren like you.

It's not though.

@@hermos3602Stay mad *puts shades on*.

@@hermos3602IIIIGOR FETCH ME THE BRAINNNN

@@Based_Stuhlinger I'm not though. People that say that are usually projecting.