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Region of Convergence for the z-Transform 

Barry Van Veen
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z-transforms of signals in general do not exist over the entire z-plane. The infinite series defining the z-transform only converges for a subset of values of z, termed the region of convergence. Multiple examples of deriving z-tranforms.

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@allsignalprocessing
@allsignalprocessing 11 лет назад
I will try to clarify my use of terms: 1) A causal signal has x[n] = 0 for n
@felixg4785
@felixg4785 8 лет назад
Why can't lectures try to be like you? Thanks, you are awesome.
@allsignalprocessing
@allsignalprocessing 11 лет назад
We say this signal is non causal by viewing it as if it were the impulse response of an LTI system. The impulse response of a causal system must be zero for n
@allsignalprocessing
@allsignalprocessing 11 лет назад
The grt than1/4 applies to the first term alone in g[n] while less than 1/2 applies to the second term in g[n]. Hence for the z-transform of g[n] to converge, we can only include values of z for which BOTH terms in g[n] converge. This leads to the overall ROC being the INTERSECTION of grt than1/4 and less than 1/2, which results in the ring. I think it is easier to figure this out by looking at the individual terms. With a sum of signals the ROC will be the intersection of individ ROCs.
@maristelasantos8714
@maristelasantos8714 9 лет назад
You have such a great talent for teaching. Thank you veeery muuchhh for saving my final exam!
@morto00x
@morto00x 8 лет назад
By far the best ROC explanation I've found. Thanks
@augustoferreira3720
@augustoferreira3720 7 лет назад
in case 3 the plot is wrong. For y[n]=-α^n u[-n -1] , with 0 < α < 1 the sequence should grow unbounded as n decreases.
@Mani_KrSingh
@Mani_KrSingh 6 лет назад
Yes you are true. The sequence will grow unbounded. For the decaying sequence as shown in Figure, it should have been a>1
@joshualiu8551
@joshualiu8551 5 лет назад
Thanks, this comment should be pushed front
@mehrabzamanian581
@mehrabzamanian581 2 года назад
I think it should -a^-n instead of -a^n
@jiwann4213
@jiwann4213 11 лет назад
you should have clarified on how to choose region of convergence in examples rather than in general. I am not clear with the explanation. At 11:46 how and why are they different? : |z|>1/4 but |z|
@KlaskeyProductions
@KlaskeyProductions 9 лет назад
I could almost feel my hair blowing as your explanation at 13:15 flew right over my head lol.
@ShrenikJain
@ShrenikJain 7 лет назад
Klae G's haha 🤣🤣🤣
@adityavinayak3989
@adityavinayak3989 5 лет назад
@@ShrenikJain i saw your videos. well, some people upload for sharing knowledge. and some like u open an online so-called last hours tuition school to make money lol
@bugzo0
@bugzo0 11 лет назад
wait, u wrote my signals book ?
@creatiph
@creatiph 10 лет назад
Beginner here, what's u[n] ? It's in the X[n] equation at the start but it's there anymore when we switch to the X(z) form. Thanks
@nazcov
@nazcov 11 лет назад
Not that i'm an expert either but it's not non causal, its anti causal. A causal system can be past and present values, where a noncausal contains future values. I think the anticausal system is a subcategory for only past values, referring to what mr. Van Ven commented at the top. Feel free to correct me if im wrong.
@r410a8
@r410a8 3 месяца назад
What is the formula of u[n] in 3:26 such the a variable's value determes the value of x[n] such a way in each case,i don't understand. And why in 4:36 when you aply the z transform formula on to x[n] you write Sum n-oo to +oo a^n*z^-n instead of Sum -oo to +oo a^n*u[n]*z^-n suposed the x[n] is a^n*u[n] not only a^n ? I don't understand this neither.
@springbokmarine
@springbokmarine 8 лет назад
Thank you so so much for posting these videos!
@realislamicguidance2375
@realislamicguidance2375 3 года назад
Suppose a signal is growing exponentially. We take its Z transform & find its ROC. So what are we supposed to do practically? Are we supposed to manipulate our O/P by multiplying any signal from ROC such that our O/P converges & system is stable? And what if our signal is exponentially decaying so whats the purpose of finding ROC in this case (except for determing stability/casuality)?
@abedsoubra2453
@abedsoubra2453 7 лет назад
how do you know if a series is converging or not ?
@zoala001
@zoala001 9 лет назад
I kind of got the idea of ROC but I have problem of knowing the casual and causal functions. I mean I can't really say if a series function is greater or smaller than alpha.
@JainamTalsania
@JainamTalsania 8 лет назад
Your videos are awesome, keep doing great work.
@mohamedquabbou5253
@mohamedquabbou5253 7 лет назад
thank you for the for this vid you saved me from failing my semestre
@FatimaHassan-fn1vk
@FatimaHassan-fn1vk 6 лет назад
Why do we assume the radius to be alpha?
@nomadic_rider42
@nomadic_rider42 10 лет назад
Great explanation, thanks a lot for the effort.
@uniqueaakash14
@uniqueaakash14 7 лет назад
you are a life saver
@oath0703
@oath0703 10 лет назад
Hi Sir, in the last example, when you rewrite, is it x[n] = u[n] +delta[n] - (-3/4)^n*u[-n-1] ? isn't it x[n] = u[n] - delta[n] + (-3/4)^n*u[-n-1] ? From your notation, two ways(before rewrite, after rewrite) of expression x[-1] will be x[n] = (-3/4)^-1 , x[n] = - (-3/4)^-1 I'm a bit confused on this stuff. I really do love your videos. Thank you so much
@allsignalprocessing
@allsignalprocessing 10 лет назад
Note that at 13:15 the expression is x[n] = u[n] +delta[n] - - (-3/4)^n*u[-n-1], that is there are two negative signs in between the delta[n] and (-3/4)^n terms and thus it is effectively a +. In your equation above you missed the second minus sign. You also have a - in front of delta[n], and that should be +. We can check as follows: x[-1] = - - (-3/4)^(-1) = (-3/4)^(-1) which agrees before and after the rewrite step. Also, x[0] = u[0] +(-3/4)^0 u[0] = 2 (before the rewrite step) and x[0] = u[0] + delta[0] = 2 (after the rewrite step). I think the algebra is ok as written, but that is a good question - you are paying very close attention.
@oath0703
@oath0703 10 лет назад
Barry Van Veen Ohh,, I see now. It wasn't tricky. I was just missing one negative sign. Thank you so much Sir. I wish more students and people can find this channel and benefit from this great lectures. I found a month before the final which is tomorrow while have been suffering for couple months from ...well. Appreciate your great effort.
@seimela
@seimela 9 лет назад
Barry Van Veen thank you for explaining ......got confused also
@joshuasalvador8785
@joshuasalvador8785 9 лет назад
How do I know if its case 2 or 3 when I'm doing the inverse z transform table look up?
@augustoferreira3720
@augustoferreira3720 7 лет назад
You must check the ROC.... if |z|>|α|, it is a right sided sequence α^n u[n]. if |z|
@danel5726
@danel5726 9 лет назад
Hi! This should be obvious, but in Case 2, why is x[n]=0 for negative values of n? Is u[n] a predefined function? Thank you!
@ashishgupta9332
@ashishgupta9332 8 лет назад
yes
@SamriddhaDhali
@SamriddhaDhali 9 лет назад
THANK YOU SIR. best VIDEO FOR UNDERSTANDING ROC
@kousik_das
@kousik_das 7 лет назад
Thank you sir, very nicely explained
@priteshparikh9324
@priteshparikh9324 9 лет назад
at 14:19 i did not get the roc condition. shouldnt it be z> -3/4 our only condition for infinite geometric series is that it should exist ...i.e denominator should not become zero or negative?
@ShrenikJain
@ShrenikJain 7 лет назад
pritesh parikh see it's |z| and not just z. so you are right z >-3/4 so..... |z|
@AnumitKaur0211
@AnumitKaur0211 8 лет назад
great video. really helpful. thank you!!!
@toiibooy3335
@toiibooy3335 7 лет назад
thank you very much sir for this explained
@Deep00Rezom
@Deep00Rezom 9 лет назад
helped me a lot.. thanks
@tstamir5981
@tstamir5981 7 лет назад
very accurate and choice. i'm officialy a fan
@ninepuchar1
@ninepuchar1 8 лет назад
why did delta[n] appear at 13.24? could anyone explain that properly? thankx
@erbazkhan266
@erbazkhan266 4 года назад
- A non causal signal has x[n] not equal 0 for some value n
@NorahIK
@NorahIK 8 лет назад
thank you so much.
@spyroscvrs1651
@spyroscvrs1651 6 лет назад
thank you
@milongitom
@milongitom 10 лет назад
Thank you !!!
@FatimaHassan-fn1vk
@FatimaHassan-fn1vk 6 лет назад
Alpha can be complex so it would be better if you had written |alpha|
@kestonsmith1354
@kestonsmith1354 4 года назад
ty so much
@milongitom
@milongitom 10 лет назад
Great explanation .!! can you tell me on 13:15 ... why are you using DETA ?
@ritishmaram3326
@ritishmaram3326 4 года назад
Hi, To convert sequence2 into a "anti causal sequence". So anti causal sequence is a sequence where there are values only for n
@WithWaqas
@WithWaqas 8 лет назад
helpfull thanx
@manjumaldakal1598
@manjumaldakal1598 7 лет назад
thanks a lot sir :)
@lalitverma5818
@lalitverma5818 6 лет назад
Not clear seen
@itemushmush
@itemushmush 7 лет назад
It's ZED, no "Zee"
@ShrenikJain
@ShrenikJain 7 лет назад
James it changed over period so now it's zee
@abnereliberganzahernandez6337
@abnereliberganzahernandez6337 3 месяца назад
you sck bro
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