@@moldyrefrigerator not worried too bad. I don’t think it’s as big of an issue as people make it out to be. However, I would hope they do a recall, I think that would be the right thing to do.
really? im really excited to see that when i get mine since ive had the pleasure of driving a laguna blue bmw m240 and i was surprised for how good it absorbed bumps on 18in wheels
The thing is upgrades can fix most of the issues with this car (Upgraded short throw shifter, clutch spring, new steering wheel, better tires rims, exhaust etc) besides that it's perfect. RWD, LSD, Manual what else could a man want. Maybe get a supercharger too later if you want more power. The GR86 is a beast and possibly Toyota's best GR vehicle imo. I'm not big on the BMW Supra or the tiny hot hatches like Gr Yaris and Gr corolla so this is the way to go
@@Ryukomytoy Smokes it easily? It barely manages to be a second faster on the track with almost 100 extra horsepower. Not to mention it's heavier, it has understeer and even with the variable ratio dial you can never drift a GR corolla. Lastly it'll always look like your grandmas car from certain angles...the GR86 is a beauty and like I said with basic mods especially the supercharger which will bring it to 360HP it will smoke the GR Corolla on a track...
@@kamikazi5144 Sounds like a cope. You have tospends thousands on your shitty stock car just to make it "good". Enjoy the silicone and voided warranties.
The first thing I did was get an exhaust for this car. I told myself i would wait a few months but I ended up getting one in just 3 weeks. It was way too quiet
This car is a four banger, and for it being that, will never really get that really aggressive note as an 8. Caution on many of the aftermarket exhausts, nothing worse than driving a screaming bee, or a fart can. The exhaust note should have a rich quality sound that enhances the car, not loud obnoxious, trying to sound like an engine it is not. The top exhausts that can deliver, Borla S Catback, the AWE, touring Catback, MBRP axel back, Apexi n1.
@@bmanz8117 i got the awe touring exhaust. Not even close to a fart can, car sounds really refined. Also, the s2000 is a 4 cylinder and it actually has a decent sound from the factory.
@@Carlos.Rivera that would be worse, the Cardboard will sink and let more leaks, for now is the only thing with it what only toyota/subaru could fix because a lot of people doesnt find how to fix it.
How do you feel about the less compartment space compared to first-gen? Have you noticed it? I’m talking about the lack of small cubby space underneath the climate controls, cupholders/armrest that now only fits two drink, compared to first-gen that had extra space behind the cupholders, lack of compartment sleeves on the back of the front seats first-gen had, etc.
I love my Halo GR86 6MT, I know exactly what you mean when you say you still enjoy it every time you get in it. Even just swapping parking spots with my wife is kind of fun. The car is worth every penny.
Yea which is why I’m gonna get the 2024 Type R or maybe even 25 if I can wait that long. I’m sure they’ll make it for a couple years and I wanna give them time to work out the kinks.
Every gr86 - 2022 brz has it from factory, so its better do oil changes when the manufacter paper says and always take a look in the oilpickup and if necesary clean it, nobody can do something, is something what Toyota and Subaru would fix
Had one, one of the best cars I've ever owned. Glad to see there's still some people driving them. Enjoy it while you can and enjoy the move to this one as I'm looking to get it myself as well. Blessings Nismo Bro!
The car is amazing the way it is, some people just like to bitch, it’s a 30k car! They have to cut corners to keep it at that price point. I’m fine with the exhaust, I think it does great on the highway, you want a softer ride then it won’t handle as good. Now people are concerned about the silicone on the oil pan, the car has a warranty, if it blows up Toyota will replace the engine.
Its weird for people to complain about the exhaust when MOST people that gets a sports car the first mod they'd ever do is the exhaust. The silicone issue I believe is a bit over the top when you can simply just drop the pan and remove some of the silicone from the oil pick up and reapply the RTV with less amount. (WHICH dropping the pan WILL NOT void warranty according to Toyota)
@@EnhancedTrashBin True, but you shouldn't have to continually drop the pan when you buy a new car because there were suspect assembly methods. I have a 2002 Tacoma with 320,000 and never dropped the oil pan. I'm waiting for my '23 GR86 to hit the dealership any day now and this RTV crap has really made me question this purchase.
@@goranyordanoff3638 Yep, I definitely agree this RTV stuff can easily be resolved if they either lessen the RTV or just not actually use RTV at all and actually have gaskets and not this crap. Honestly, you're better off just hoplding your purchase off until they resolve this or just wait for another 1-2 years just to be safe.
don't get rid of the interior sound. I love it. Its based on the in car and live engine harmonics, whilst it is reproduced and cuts out bad harmonics and strengthens good harmonics its still based on the engine - its not some completely fake sound like you might get with an electric car or a completely simulated video game - this is still rooted from the live physical behaviour of the engine.
I kept the engine speaker plugged in for the first month of ownership. Didn't mind the sound. Then I decided to unplug it. Just wanted to try hearing what the natural engine note sounded like. That speaker is never getting plugged back in!😂
Geez man. I daily a IS200t. More power, faster but not quicker. Idk man I feel like the GR86 won’t be drastic enough of a change from my 200t to warrant me getting it. I REALLY want one tho. I’m just not sure how I’d feel long term about it. I can cut corners and such in the 200t(although it’s not as fun as the GR and is a lot heavier). I’m trying to get away from my current car as it’s really heavy and not a fun car to drive really at all. And unless I’m going 120+ it’s not beating anything in any race lol. I’ll see man I really appreciate the review. A part of me wants to get closer to that 300ho range as I’m currently at 241hp. This has like 13less but with it being lighter it may make up for it
Love this car. My only complaint is the interior cabin noise at highway speed. And before everyone bashes me LOL, I know this is not a luxury car, its a sports car, but the interior cabin noise almost sounds like being in my friends Miata with the top down.....:(
"They will not be making cars like this much longer" . You are so right and what a shame that is. It's also a shame that the manufacturer cannot produce enough cars to keep up with demand. For me, no electric car can match the sound of a gas engine powered car going through the gears. Subaru/Toyota, listen, keep it RWD, no turbo option, give more exterior and interior color choices, fix the dogshit sound system. Also make the flat screen display, more customizable. Subaru/Toyota corporate listen up, you are really pissing folks off by allowing your greedy dealers to sell at above MSRP.
The Toyota GR86 excels at being a $30K Porsche x Miata everyday affordable sports car. The Toyota GR86 falls a bit flat in MPG because it struggles to get 25-30mpg highway compared to Tedward’s manual Honda Civic Si getting 48+ mpg on the highway. The old first Gen Scion FRS/BRZ/86 got 34 mpg highway.
@@PhuPhillipTrinh I agree. With gas at $10 a gallon usd, the well documented 48+mpg highway Honda Civic Si starts looking a little more economically responsible than the Subaru BRZ/Toyota GR86.
Do you find the fuel range annoying I heard ppl only get 250-270 on a full tank that’s pretty low and a big downer if you always have to be at the pump. How’s your experience? Thanks
Install a stage 2 turbo kit replace the injectors and upgrade the fuel pump whilst doing an e85 conversion. I did that all at once on mine and god damn it's insane, you won't regret it
@@Jmarzx Well now if it were me I'd get the si. From what I'm hearing they might recalls the new 86 brz because of rtv silicone gaskets being found in the oil pan. That's happening without boost. I have the first gen 86 and it's not an issue
Have you re checked that pick up tube to see if if it’s a continuous problem so don’t starve the motor of oil crap Subaru motors are know to be not of good quality
Really different cars , price points and it depends what you want the car for. The GR86 is a scalpel while the Supra is more like a bowie knife, both get the job done.
Great looking car...one of he best looking cars out there...but the lack of power kills it for me. For about $5 k more...Ill wait for the Civic TR...not as sporty looking...but much more power and practical
Thank you sir for such an informative review. Still waiting to get mine. It’s funny because I’ve owned quite a few fine automobiles. Some you will still find in the deserts of an undisclosed country.
Awesome catch on that CN Tear 4 Gevo. I've been on a waiting list forever for the GR86. I finally got to test drive one. It was a great handling and nimble car I just think for the money I'm better off getting a used Porsche Cayman or a Cayman S.
Scion was a dog, too slow. I own a 2022 GR 86, I like mine, nice handling, pretty good on the looks stock. Lowering the car improves look, as well as handling. Adding spacers can become a safety issue, they are known to break. The Alcantara will wear quickly, on the door will get wet opening doors on the rainy days leaving it open for staining. I prefer the 17 wheels, as well as the less aggressive duck bill. Toyota needs to step up the HP still. This car should be at least 275 hp, and it will thrill, compete with Porsche Cayman, Nissan Z, Mustang ecoboost. I get alot of looks and comments on mine, in the steel silver. Toyota needs to dump the Supra, it's ugly, and too expensive fior what you get, leaving sales down. Stay with GR 86 and make it the best possible on way of looks, handling, and quickness 0 to 60, with a price point that is within reason. Toyota needs to come up with a few different interior colors as well. The quality of materials in the cabin need some improvement as well. The seat belt reminder chime is so annoying, tone it down please. I also think all sports cars, muscle cars, and super cars should have a analog guage,, looks better. The exterior on the GR 86 looks really good except from the front, which falls flat. Needs to be a bit wider, needs some fog lights as well. Al in all it is a car that will please, and excite every time you get in a drive it. Enjoy
Well if you care about HP that much may as well wait for turbo kits for it, get an entire exhaust set up, get an aftermarket air intake. I personally find then front looks great, Not obnoxious and its very clean where the styling of the car isn't random plastic crap like with the last gen ESPECIALLY with the last gen civics. Interior colors are unnecessary for something meant for just driver experience....
I wish I had more good twisty roads to drive on. I have the 22 BRZ and am pretty disappointed in the performance. I cannot wait for tuning and forced induction to be available. I have owned several mustangs in a row so the BRZ has turned out to be much more of a performance downgrade than I expected.
@@Carlos.Rivera I would but nothing GM will ever be in my garage. Fords and Japanese cars only. I am actually in the process of building a miata with a coyote 5.0. Best of both worlds.
Different strokes for different folks. The BRZ is something I think about at work all day, and I couldn’t care less about a Mustang. I’d hate driving a car so common that I see another one at every other stoplight, and most of the time Mustangs are pretty obnoxious so regardless of the car’s performance, they’ve always been deemed irrelevant to me. I also don’t trust Ford as a brand much either.
If you don't plan on doing track/autocross events, I probably won't bother. Only reason I would trade the GT in would be if the manual transmission is starting to go; those things are god awful. Most people just want horsepower and torque and an 86 is the complete opposite of a Mustang in that regard. Really depends on what you want the car to do.
I found that lowering an inch and half on the twins without dialing back the rear camber. The car would pretty much just understeer everywhere on track. Personally lowering it with an inch seems like the sweet spot if we dont have Rear LCR.
Only plus about this car is that it’s light and can turn a corner good that’s about it for the price u can get alot of faster cars with more potential I just don’t get the point of buying this car
Not sure what cars you're gonna get that are gonna handle as well with a better power to weight ratio without spending at least 10k more than this, on the new market anyway.
I showed the things I like ( a lot) and the things I don't like ( gas gauge , no oil pressure gauge, useless hp graph, no exhaust noise and bad infotainment) which I have not mentioned before ( nobody has mentioned how bad the gas gauge is ).
Yea which is why I’m gonna get the 2024 Type R or maybe even 25 if I can wait that long. I’m sure they’ll make it for a couple years and I wanna give them time to work out the kinks.
