Reiger Model 1889: Quick-Change Revolver Clips!

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Edwin Reiger was an Austrian designer who took the basic mechanism of the Passler & Seidl ring trigger manual pistol and added a sort of revolver magazine to it. Reiger used a drop-in 6-round clip very similar to the Blake rifle clip. Only two examples of these pistols are known to survive, and this one has a very striking brass frame. Very cool!
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@spyronos 3 года назад

This looks like what 1850 thought 2001 would look like

@dhotnessmcawesome9747 3 года назад

@@peterclarke7240 For two.

@Immopimmo 9 месяцев назад

Retrofuturism!

@dickdastardly4236 3 года назад

It's bizarre how ridiculously complex some of the old guns are compared to how crude so many SMGs and semi auto pistols are. It's now easier to build a machine gun than a pistol like this one.

@Gloin79 3 года назад

I wonder why that is, doesn't seem to be much diffrence in required technology between something like a sten gun and this.

@francoisrioux5869 3 года назад

@@Gloin79 It mostly comes down to cartridge technology. Even if we forget about all the issues around black powder, the metalic cases themselves were hard to manifacture and far from being as reliable as modern brass. So yeah, they had all the technology to fabricate a sten-like gun but it wouldn't work well with the ammo they could make.

@loneghostone6883 3 года назад

@@Gloin79 To design a blowback firearm without going through an incredible number of prototypes that wont work and have to be scrapped (or may explode even), requires a knowledge of spring-mass-damper systems that humanity did not have in the 1800s.

@Scapegoat-po2ou 3 года назад

@@Gloin79 if I remember correctly, the main technological barrier from full auto weapons in the 1800's was the lack of smokeless powder. Black powder doesn't really produce enough energy that could be harnessed efficiently for an automatic firearm, and even one did make an automatic black powder gun the barrel would foul up really quickly anyway.

@d3faulted2 3 года назад

@@francoisrioux5869 Don't forget the ability to manufacture high quality magazines in substantial numbers.

@Shit_Shooter 3 года назад

I don't even own a gun, and I have watched hundreds of your videos. 👍👍 I am a mechanic of all things old, particularly motorcycles. The mechanics involved in early firearms is just fascinating.

@kgkbuugj 3 года назад

Get one before it's too late...

@Shit_Shooter 3 года назад

@@kgkbuugj I'll just make one!

@claudiodiaz9752 3 года назад

I didn't have one when I first started watching it.

@notyermama1597 3 года назад

I didn't own a gun when I first started reading Ian's original blogs. I enjoyed the photographs, but his videos are so much more comprehensive and enjoyable to me. I now own two handguns and several rifles and shotguns. And I think I owe it all to Ian's rather infectious enthusiasm for these fascinating pieces of mechanical engineering history. I am now an avid shooter as well! Thanks Ian!!!

@kgkbuugj 3 года назад

@@Shit_Shooter thays even better

@c1ph3rpunk 3 года назад

Market for real version: 2 Market for repro version: 1 That’s a 50% market for repro, tell that to investors!

@77gravity 3 года назад

Judging by the other comments, you'd sell repros as fast as you could make them.

@johnathansaegal3156 3 года назад

I would buy a repro if it was not too expensive, so market for repro (including others here) is higher than there are actual pistols in existence!)

@REXOB9 3 года назад

Each ring trigger video is more and more steampunky. That quick change clip is amazing. Looks like a small jet turbine.

@davidherbst 3 года назад

This is so cool it made my magnifying monocle goggle fall off!

@Turn.Colors Год назад

Right? I nearly crashed my airship.

@MichaelPoage666 6 месяцев назад

I was so taken aback, I lost the hat on top of my hat that was on top of my other hat!

@matthewspencer5086 3 года назад

Yet another rare and wonderful Austrian pistol from the 1890s that is not in the Fireplace Collection. Yet.

@marvindebot3264 3 года назад

Maybe he owns the other one . . .

@Tallmios 3 года назад

The developers from DICE would have a field day animating the reload.

@thespecialbru 3 года назад

I was thinking about how great you could make this look in a video game, first person loading would be just 👌

@1r0zz 3 года назад

No, too sexist... They would not animate it.

@Tallmios 3 года назад

@@thespecialbru Reminds me of the way Maliwan revolvers reload in Borderlands 2. Plop it out, plop it in.

@cannedbread3125 3 года назад

@@1r0zz what the fuck are you talking about? lol

@killerqueen6054 3 года назад

@Andrew K DICE is a video game company that made the WW1 shooter game Battlefield 1

@toooldfortwowheels2048 3 года назад

Love how aesthetically pleasing these pieces are.

@waste_disposal1066 3 года назад

I feel like opening a company and just sell replicas of these obscure and fascinating weapons

@benjamindavidovichwaals2899 3 года назад

it would bring a lot of money, probably

@DH-xw6jp 3 года назад

Dont forget to offer a whitney wolverine or a bergmann's no5.

@sabo55 3 года назад

@@DH-xw6jp Once Powder printers get cheap enough it has the potential to really open up the antique firearms research side of things. Well that and 3D scanning which also needs to prgress alot to be commonly useable but still one day :)

@carloshenriquezimmer7543 3 года назад

can I pre-order some?

@JB-dm6zt 3 года назад

@Zane Blaire I'd easily buy this pistol if I could get it for $450-$600, a lot of other would too.

@keithc904 3 года назад

This is very much a Firefly weapon, I can see any one of Malcolm's crew or rivals owning one of these.

@kmech3rd 3 года назад

Shiny!

@daathseverus 3 года назад

Would definitely be on the hip of one of Malcolms crew. I miss that show.

@J.DeLaPoer 3 года назад

Brass frame! Ring trigger! Bird's head grip! Octagonal barrel! Unusual mechanism! Weird yet beautiful Victorian aesthetics! This checks pretty much every awesome-antique-gun-feature box out there. Love it.

@longboweod 3 года назад

Ian wants a reproduction, I want a reproduction, who else wants a reproduction? Let's get a Kickstarter going.

@TheOdst219 3 года назад

To the machine shop!

@ketchman8299 3 года назад

I would also like one. Wonder if .32 acp would work?

@kschleic9053 3 года назад

It's mostly brass, you could sand cast it...

@Kremit_the_Forg 3 года назад

@@kschleic9053 Farmcraft101 needs to see this!!!

@burleydad 3 года назад

I want one!

@boingkster 3 года назад

Quick? Change? R E V O L V E R?? I love this stuff. Keep it up Ian!

@daathseverus 3 года назад

Good way to get around the gun grabbers when it gets worse.....

@lbh002 3 года назад

I love this! It is part bolt action, part revolver, and part Ruger 10/22 rotary magazine.

@davidcruz8667 3 года назад

Love this comment. 👍😎

@jackdaw7792 3 года назад

I've been thinking about a design like that for the past 5 years. It's wild to think that something as bizarre as what I was imagining actually exists already in reality, let alone being over 100 years old. Though to be fair that period was absolutely overflowing with short-lived but unique actions.

@RodrigoFernandez-td9uk 3 года назад

When I was 10 I invented the external combustion turbine. Later I learned in the Web that it was already invented.

@Govanmauler 3 года назад

This is my favourite of these so far , that mechanism is very pleasing

@earlyriser8998 3 года назад

what a clever idea to have a replacable circular "clip' that couldbe dropped and replaced.

@AM-hf9kk 3 года назад

The en bloc clip version makes more sense though. If it had been a top loader, it easily could have been a viable option next to the Luger and C96. This rotary clip looks like a nightmare to manufacture and maintain tolerances.

@Khetamine 3 года назад

@@0neDoomedSpaceMarine Yeah these cylinders seem expensive, large and heavy relative to clips. I would rather have clips for weight and size alone. Having more ammo is very useful in a military role and weight and cost are important in civilian.

@ScottKenny1978 3 года назад

@@0neDoomedSpaceMarine I don't think that these were intended to be 100% interchangeable, like modern magazines are. Get 2-4 per gun that work with that gun and serialize them. Crud, even the Soviets had a hard time with that, the SVD mags are serialized to the weapon. And that was 1960s/70s!

@mrjockt 3 года назад

These would make fantastic “Steam Punk” accessories, as Ian said they are a very “Steam Punky” design.

@iamsmartacus 3 года назад

That was my first thought. This gun screams steampunk. It looks like something that would be wielded by a character from an H.G. Wells novel.

@DAKOTA56777 3 года назад

@@iamsmartacus You should google the Bittner pistol if you want a really steampunk manual repeater.

@colinjohnson5515 3 года назад

Far too functional for steam punk! Needs more random clock gears.

@DAKOTA56777 3 года назад

@@colinjohnson5515 Related, you should lookup the song "Just Glue Some Gears On It" by Reginald Pikedevant, it pokes fun of that trend of steampunk and encourages people to do better. Usually I'm not a fan of steampunk for that reason, but occasionally you can find actually well thought out and interesting designs by steampunk artists who know their stuff better.

@Hawk1966 3 года назад

1 of 2 in existence? The Fireplace Collector Signal is lit!

@mrb692 3 года назад

Joke’s on us, it came from his collection

@boxfoxscoot1614 Год назад

to be remembered for an obscure gun modification you did over a hundred years later is something incredible. edwen reegar probably has gotten more recognition in this 130k video than he ever did in his life

@thelastjohnwayne 3 года назад

Just when you think that Ian could not possibly find anything more strange or interesting after so many years

@fancyultrafresh3264 3 года назад

When Ian is in the process of showing an already beautiful collection of manually operated pistols then says the best was saved for last.

@moconnell663 3 года назад

I'd love to see the sequential stamping dies they used to make that clip/magazine.

@User_Un_Friendly 3 года назад

Why do I believe that Ian is planning to make a bid? 1) It has an insane operating mechanism, 2) It was tested by the French, 3) It looks super cool with a highly Steampunk style. He’s in love. 🤣

@VeraTR909 3 года назад

Love the look of these guns, no straight lines in the frame, it's all just beautiful curves, very organic looking.

@not-a-theist8251 3 года назад

These are a fascinating dead end in small arms design. Never would have seen them anywhere else propably

@timberwolfmountaineer873 3 года назад

4 dislikes are from the people who tried to chamber the broken cylinder.

@sawyere2496 3 года назад

This man plays the long dark

@daathseverus 3 года назад

Nah. They were just drinking Natty Lite and got pissed because It wasn’t the “lords caliber”. 😂

@timberwolfmountaineer873 3 года назад

@@daathseverus Hehe, good one, Mike! Wait, which one is it again? The 7,62x39mm, right? JOKING!!!!! It's .45 Government. pls no #cancel Forgive me FUDDER, for i have sinned...

@2packrm781 9 месяцев назад

My only wish is for Ian to test fire that impressive piece of history at the gun range. I'm so impressed by the design, planning, forethought, engineering, pioneering, & its development from the ground up. The guy who made this has my respect.

@CurtHowland 3 года назад

"Quick change revolver clips" That reads more like Feinswine legislation!

@jamesparker2413 3 года назад

The progression of rarity and beauty of these manually operated pistol videos is such a treat. I'm in love with the mechanics of them and that brass frame is killer. Thanks Ian for sharing them with us!

@weldyhammerboi4382 3 года назад

I wonder if you could make those little "clips" out of plastic? Being it doesn't have to hold pressure like a revolver cylinder, be cool to see a modern interpretation of that mechanism

@AxLWake 3 года назад

I don't think it would be very durable. All the friction of the steel hand that rotates the "cylinder" would eventually (maybe quite quickly) wear the back of it. And it would not turn anymore.

@AndrewAMartin 3 года назад

@@AxLWake If they're cheap enough, they could be a disposable, one-time-use thing. Run out? Just 3-D print more...

@AxLWake 3 года назад

@@AndrewAMartin True. And I think you definitely could use them more than once before they wear out.

@SteamCrane 3 года назад

@@AxLWake There is "plastic" and "engineering plastic". There are plenty of hard strong plastics that would work and wear well.

@AxLWake 3 года назад

@@SteamCrane Yes there are many different kind and quality of plastics. But you generally don't use them in a situation where they have to rub again and again against a steel piece. They WILL wear no matter the quality of it.

@deanhankio6304 3 года назад

looks in a better shape than the other one .. especially the security lock at the back

@Ngutovi 3 года назад

That's such a pleasure to look at.

@Bzhydack 3 года назад

This gun is literally awsome. Isn't overly complicated like others manualy operated guns, and is easy to operate. Really shame it didn't catch up.

@Gojiro7 2 года назад

something about that sliding panel to load the gun coupled with its over all smooth exterior is giving me major 50's toy gun vibes XD

@oldesertguy9616 3 года назад

This series of weapons has been awesome. Thank you.

@slutmonke 3 года назад

no detailed documentation like there usually is, seems like this pistol truly is a forgotten weapon.

@bryanhall9034 3 года назад

I’ve waited 130 years to fire this. Go ahead punk make my day.

@quatro_quatro 3 года назад

On a side note: If it's "REIger" the name is pronounced "RYE-ger" If it's "RIEger" (which is more common) it's "REE-ger" Same goes for "Wiener" (correct spelling of the infamous sausage) and "Weiner" (correct spelling for someone that cries a lot).

@TaxiServiceMods 3 года назад

i'm sorry but do you mean whiner?

@quatro_quatro 3 года назад

@@TaxiServiceMods Weiner = Whiner

@fortusvictus8297 3 года назад

Thats the German rule, but was it the same for Austria-Hungary?

@quatro_quatro 3 года назад

@@fortusvictus8297 Yes

@VeraTR909 3 года назад

Reiger means Heron, it's the same spelling in Dutch. (Reiher in German). And the "rye" version is more correct yeah.

@timclark1707 3 года назад

Awesome videos, I’ve been watching for at least two years 🤘

@fensoxx 3 года назад

This is the coolest pistol I’ve ever seen you show. Man I want one.

@mtslyh 3 года назад

Loving this series!

@brianjett5718 3 года назад

Even Steampunks wearing stovepipe hats and goggles would look at that gun and say, "it's a little on the nose."

@ostiariusalpha 3 года назад

Nah, they'd sniff "Where are the outside gears and pressure gauges? Glue some on."

@borjesvensson8661 3 года назад

@J M and gay means fun😉🎩

@DH-xw6jp 3 года назад

@@ostiariusalpha thats my biggest gripe with the steampunk aesthetic honestly, i mean, what are all those tiny gears _do?_

@ostiariusalpha 3 года назад

@@DH-xw6jp That's not really the genuine Steampunk aesthetic though, it's what you get when people start becoming involved that have no understanding of the Victorian Retrofuturist core of the design philosophy. So they think that just adding goggles and gears and such makes something "Steampunk," when in truth, a sleek repeating pistol like the Reiger is actually what real Steampunk is supposed to look like.

@DH-xw6jp 3 года назад

@@ostiariusalpha sure, but the authentic steampunk cosplayers are few and far between.

@DH-xw6jp 3 года назад

Another ring trigger gun? Ian, you are spoiling us! Keep it coming.

@Vaultmon 3 года назад

The more I see this style of pistol, the more I want one

@Govanmauler 3 года назад

I dont know why but I have a burning need for one of these and a single shot civil war carbine

@pluma8547 3 года назад

Ok i get it ian, the mysterious red table man has given these to RIA and you got your hands on all of his collection

@portinari76 3 года назад

Ian, thank you. I love your channel.

@rayp.8364 3 года назад

Ian literally has a dream job...

@thomas_jay 3 года назад

The number of different operating systems for pistols and rifles is just amazing.

@llamallama1509 3 года назад

I love these weird looking late 19th century sci-fi handguns

@karenripley3678 3 года назад

SteamPunk/BlackPowderPunk ?

@OblateSpheroid 3 года назад

I love the shape of the clip. It looks beautiful.

@GuitARPlayr100 3 года назад

This is definitely the coolest ring trigger gun so far. I would LOVE anyone who decided to make a repro of this. Way too awesome to resist.

@AxLWake 3 года назад

It does look really cool.

@scullystie4389 3 года назад

The pistols you've been having for the last few episodes are fucking wild

@loupiscanis9449 3 года назад

Thank you , Ian .

@wormyboot 3 года назад

Were I alive during this period, I'd absolutely carry this.

@shawnbeckett1370 3 года назад

Awesome as always

@alun7006 3 года назад

Amazing. I can't wait to see how the final one tops this!

@TARider2 3 года назад

Thats a really cool innovative design for the time! Almost like a little lever action. Very cool

@capt.bart.roberts4975 3 месяца назад

I love these byways of gun development which are always interesting.

@webtoedman 3 года назад

Nice thing about this is that it is effectively a double action, but the actual trigger pull is separated from the cocking movement, so presumably light and precise like a single action. I stand to be corrected as always.

@williamhart4896 3 года назад

Cool mechanism in that pistol so old school and very much cool

@jasonwells7246 3 года назад

Love to get my hands on this one.

@c.s.6203 3 года назад

Thank you for posting this video! It is great to see reviews of these old austrian handguns. You should definitely visit the HGM if you are vistiting vienna. They got a lot of very interesting guns in their collection and maybe you could arrange to make some videos there!

@therugburnz 3 года назад

More rotation makes me more interested ! Thanx Ian.

@juanpedropedraja1614 3 года назад

It is pure fantasy, I find it wonderful to be able to see these gems of engineering from other times in these videos.

@mannsaab9416 3 года назад

One of the best and cool vintage revolver, people are very clever those days without internet.

@billburns9260 3 года назад

Man o Man!!! I Agree Ian! They Need to Repro This Design! Brass & All! This one's Just Absolutely Badass!!.

@Getpojke 3 года назад

1889 "Jetsons" pistol! Such a lovely looking design & fully thought through too.

@mr.dakkadakka2845 3 года назад

This kind of gun really makes me wish there was a vr game with a lot of the obscure and rare firearms featured on this channel in it.

@unternehmerA7x 3 года назад

Hey Ian, just wanted to let you know that this is a RIEGER 1889, named after the inventor Erwin Rieger (just looked it up in „Vom Ursprung der Selbstladepistole“). Greetings from Vienna!

@SoMDHarleyRider 3 года назад

Love that thing! Very cool!

@jcastle614 3 года назад

I agree Ian , would love to have a modern made copy of this pistol. One of the coolest firearms ever!

@kohinarec6580 3 года назад

That's one elegant handgun.

@Fathernsonadventures 3 года назад

Omg I want a modern firearm like this that would be amazing.

@randywatson8347 3 года назад

A protagonist steampunk revolverish gun, cool. That sight.... it's so ahead of it's time!

@JohnSmith-by5ed 3 года назад

I would love to have a working remake of this gun I always love guns with these type of never seen again designs to them

@lithium1770 3 года назад

That is a beautiful gun.

@boozeandbullets2084 3 года назад

i would like to see the new owner of that 3d print a bunch of those clips and use it

@eliasschroder9967 3 года назад

i would hate to see that. the gun is so old, shooting it is not worth the risk of damaging it in any minute way!

@comiketiger 3 года назад

Thanks for following up! So many cool ideas in the past. God bless all here.

@garykubodera9528 3 года назад

This is a very cool pistol!! Ian is right about the steam-punk look! It would be fun to shoot if someone reproduced it in this day!

@mahobgood30 3 года назад

This one has fantastic sights especially for the time

@theJellyjoker 3 года назад

I like the look of that one!

@crazyfvck 3 года назад

That thing is both beautiful and awesome :)

@curtisnewton895 3 года назад

insane gun

@davidatchison9245 3 года назад

What a cool design.

@vencelsiecks5995 3 года назад

That's so Powder-Punk! Love it!

@zakk143 3 года назад

I love how inventive and weird (in a good way) so many early cartridge firearms are designed. This design in particular is so interesting - from the ring trigger to the open bolt to that cool cylinder-clip. It's like looking at a snapshot of how clever humanity can be when we start forging into new ideas and territory!

@higgydufrane 3 года назад

Amazing firearm.

@jm9371 3 года назад

Yet another WOW gun.... thanks.

@strelok_mechenyj 7 месяцев назад

Потрясающе! Револьвер и пистолет 2 в одном. И внешность - шикарный стимпанк.

@palarious 3 года назад

I'm a simple man: I see forgotten weapons and a revolver and I click watch.

@FernandoHernandez-jw4yy 2 года назад

In terms of style, those experimental late black powder "steam punk" guns, are among the coolest ever made.

@michaelm9211 3 года назад

That’s very cool. Thank you for sharing with us Ian. I want one. Show it to the guys in khyber pass Afghan, and they can make some lol.

@daathseverus 3 года назад

The riser for the elevated rear sight looks like an “almost” modern combat sight and I feel if I were carrying or using one of these pistols, I’d usually employ it in that fashion. I love it! And very Steam or Diesel Punk. 🤘🏻