Lavender forgot the most vital part about the Belgian Lucifer statue. They commissioned another sculptor to replace the existing statue and the 2nd one came out more attractive than the first 😭
@greenapple9477 Yep! The first statue, L'ange du mal, was made by Joseph Geefs. This was the one removed with the baller quote "This devil is too sublime." The second one, the one Lavender showed a picture of, is Le genie du mal, was made by Joseph's brother, Guillaume Geefs. (Ironically, it seems the brothers used the same human model.)
@@melodramaticdragon5826imagine being the human model for a statue of the devil and the church has the statue removed for being too sexy, then modeling for the statues replacement that ends up even MORE sexy. Bros ego prolly grew two sizes
originally it wasn't even the physique of Lucifer that made the churches deem it "too hot", it was the fact that you could see a little bit under the only thing covering his. . .private area
I had no idea she was Japanese. It's not as if Japanese art lacks for demon designs. Why not, at the very least, draw her reminiscent of a centipede yokai?
I like the idea that maybe Lute in this AU still doesn't think she can be harmed after harming vaggie, purely because she believes Vaggie to be "sinful" and therefore no longer protected by God, and so she believes her being ABLE to harm Vaggie means she deserves it in her eyes.
and it'd explain why she didn't immediately twig that angelic weapons can hurt angels and tell the exorcists to stop leaving their weapons everywhere- she doesn't see Vaggie as an angel, so her weapons didn't hurt an angel in her eyes
Yess, even though in her version he's slightly evil that detail alone made him very pitiful and showed that he isn't a cold monster, just a hurt person lashing out, unable to move on from what they've lost.
RIGHTTT?? I like to think that in this AU maybe the reason he's so neglectful of his daughter is because he's still in some kind of denial, and he's constantly trying to appeal back to his angelic form, and sees Charlie as lower than him bc she's a hellborn- and he's not, he'll never be- maybe he's disappointed she doesn't look like an angel- and in his eyes he's still an angel she should look like an angel too- since she came from him- but he cannot see that she's an angel in her heart or some cheesy crap like that- idk I just thought about it LOL thx for coming to my TED talk-
Its not really the wiki's fault. They make a big effort to keep out mis-information and include detailed bibliographies in all the articles, so that people know where they get their information from. As long as you do your research, no misinformation should be spread.
@@palomaroggeri8680It’s not the wiki’s fault they’re featuring misinformation? What’s the point of being a wiki if you don’t moderate and verify the information being submitted to your wiki? Sure, people might spread misinformation, but if they want their wiki to be taken seriously, it’s _their_ job to their research, not the individual person. Also I kinda find it funny how you say it’s easy to avoid misinformation, but this is literally LavenderTowne’s third attempt to redesign this series and despite all of her in-depth research she still managed to be misinformed because of the lack of cohesion and verified sources for Hazbin’s canonical lore.
I swear this fanbase can’t keep the lore & characters straight. Comic book superheroes are more stable than this like with people like Alex Lennen and comic drake can explain nearly 100 years of comic book lore and its real life history. Than a franchise that just came out a few months ago.
2:21 As a spider enthusiast, I'd like to note that those are called chelicerae. It's also worth noting that they are NOT mandibles (pronounced, like, shell-uh-see-ray) Mandibles are used for chewing, while chelicerae are used for sucking (more context in replies) Which is... strangely befitting of Angel.
Damn. Ms. Newsome liked the original comment, but I went back to edit it to make what I was saying more clear (it was kinda repetitive)... and editing it deleted her like... I mean, I get why RU-vid would have that as a feature (prevents commenters from editing comments to make creators look bad,) but it's kinda a bummer for stuff like fixing grammar or spelling mistakes. At least I now know for the future.
Something about an angel that looks so beautiful and innocent committing violent, unspeakable acts feels so terrifying and uncanny to me, something so pure creating genocide and destruction. Honestly it's one of my favorite designs and I think it would make an interesting dynamic in the show, how appearances and angelic beauty can hide evil edit: I'm not trying to bash the show, and hold nothing against their angel designs, so please refrain from giving me death threats because of it, I'm not trying to be rude and apologize if i come off as such
Don't worry, that guy sending you threats is a bot who does that to everyone. Always report them, check "recent comments on this channel" if you're not sure they're a bot. THEN report them, and have a nice day :)
Honestly, I LOVE your Lute design, the idea of her being super cute and nice but probably killing demons violently with a happy smile because she thinks what she’s doing is correct is SUCH a smart idea and I love it! And yeah I found her design a lot less “heavenly” than the other angels, so I’m glad how your design turned out 💜
While in the Bible that is up for debate, I personally think the forbidden fruit doesn’t exist on Earth, in Hazbin hotel the fruit is specifically a apple. Lucifer and Charlie has used it as their symbol. And because Hazbin is going to do some creative liberties I don’t think it matters much.
@@moondivine2288 I believe before it became popular to interpret the Fruit of Knowledge as an apple, it was commonly interpreted to be a fig instead. Which makes sense, since figs are much more common in the part of the world where the abrahamic religions got started
I remember, when in school people were getting bad grades because they were saying that the forbidden fruit is an apple, because the apple was just used to make the story cleaner for kids (it's the explanation I always get from teachers and well everyone)
I agree. I've even seen other artists on their first redesigns for this show having disclaimers at the beginning, just in case. I feel like if an artist feels the need to clarify to you that their art isn't meant to hate on the show or something like that, there's most likely some issue there. Artists feeling pressured to agree with every aspect of a character design just because it's the official design can very easily limit their creativity or their art itself if it's taken too far. Which is not to say that everyone in the fandom has been pressuring artists or making them feel obligated to clarify things, but some people are. And this is also not to say that every artist feels pressured or afraid of the fandom or something, but some feel the need to be extra cautious just in case.
As a Hazbin fan, I genuinely really enjoy not only hearing genuine constructive criticism of the show but also hearing solutions that would make a lot more sense. Hearing other perspectives that aren’t completely blindly supportive of the show is quite refreshing, and it is such a shame that such a warning is needed on such a politely made video ♥️
I think a simple solution to the 8 limb thing with Angel would be to give him 4 legs, but have two legs in each boot, so he still walks bipedally. I think having him holding 6 things is a fun sight gag, but it doesn't seem worth drawing 6 whole arms all the time. That way, there's still the fun of having multiple simultaneous expressions through his different arms, but it's more of an allusion to him being a spider, and the design doesn't even need to change that much.
I love your change for the angels! I agree that the dichotomy between them looking docile and holy and committing horrible acts would make for more interesting imagery than a visibly evil character doing bad things
@Kat-qf7ov It is, but I feel like that's because it's actually reeeaaally good. Though, I do feel like the the idea of angels being actively the opposite of how they're portrayed in media is also very lovely! It's just a matter of execution really
It is so ominous to think of Angels floating down from the light and killing hoards of screaming people with serene smiles, moving so lightly, in a way that almost resembles a dance
I think Hazbin characters feel more like OCs than official characters. Like, they feel more like doodles in a notebook come to life and I suppose they are, especially Alastor who was made when Viv was fourteen. And I suppose that has its own charm and appeal because this series was built on fans who love the art and design of the series. I guess it's just two different approaches to the visuals and different priorities.
I love that they all follow a similar red and black color scheme and that Lute stands out easily as not being one of them. i like the detail that Lucifer, Lute and Charlie have blonde hair, also setting them apart from the rest of hell which makes sense! Angel was done so dirty in the show too, he's so pretty and unsettling here and definitely reads spider more here (i didnt even know he was supposed to be a spider for so long). love the redesigns!
I knew he was a spider for a long time and yet I didn't find out the freckles under his eyes were actually an extra set of eyes until I saw it in the show. I feel like he just should have had an extra set of eyes 24/7 just like Stolas does.
@@mr.lampshade what i mean is his design has been out for a long time pre release on amazon and i only learned that fact through a video like this one, and if we have to basically be told through the show or creators that he's a spider its not a strong design 😅
i find it so weird that the sole japanese woman (at least i think she is) is a ditzy, child-like house keeper who falls in love with every man she meets
(I haven’t watched the show yet, I’m just going off of multiple sources from the Internet, like tweets and wikis and shit, so please be nice haha) Nifty was never confirmed to be Japanese, it was just that before the actual show came out Vivzie confirmed that Nifty speaks Japanese, a character trait based on the fact her original pilot va was Japanese-American and spoke Japanese, which now that she’s no longer voicing her it’s entirely possible Nifty doesn’t even speak Japanese anymore, and regardless she was never specifically confirmed to be Japanese
I love the lineup at the end! One thing about hazbin hotel characters is that the silhouette works but the lineup kind of feels like a bit of a boring train track due to how many characters have the same kinda tall height and nifty is just the tracks only diverse track. The lineup of height variation is a HUGE improvement! Also i would love to see a redesign of high guardian spice character designs especially since you have experience with writing stories about witches
The “that bad” thing about Lucifer, is that he was COMPLETELY absent for years of her life. His desperation to be involved now is largely guilt related. He’s also kinda trying to pretend everything is totally normal? He strides in like he owns the place, is initially super dismissive, and IMMEDIATELY picks a fight with one of Charlie’s friends. We know that Alastor deserves it, but he doesn’t, and neither does Charlie really. He’s great if you forget the context of him showing up out of nowhere after years of neglect and expecting to be viewed the same as before he left.
As an audience member, I feel like we’re only ever told about Lucifer’s neglect, instead of shown it. IIRC, we only see Charlie reach out and get ignored by her mom, which makes it seem like Charlie just doesn’t want to have a relationship with her dad. We’re also not shown why he neglected her (presumably due to him feeling inadequate?), which could make him seem a lot worse
@@ToyKnives That doesn’t make it ok. We skipped the part of her life where he was absent but we still know about it. And self esteem issue are not a free pass for bad behavior.
@@annataymond9529 I’m not defending the morality of a cartoon character lol I’m talking about effective storytelling. It’s basic “show, don’t tell.” Don’t tell the audience that Lucifer did something bad. Show him doing something bad and its negative effects. Imho, we’re only ever told he neglected Charlie, and we’re mostly shown him giving her his love and attention.
I have a theory that Lilith took Charlie and somehow stopped Lucifer from finding them (I know, like every deadbeat dad claims, but hear me out)- when they're singing together we get a snippet of young Charlie sitting on his lap and them both being happy and loving and then Lilith pulls her away as they both look sad. That makes more sense to me than him acting solely out of guilt (though the guilt probably still factors in heavily as well).
Holy Cow I'm actually blown away by not only the quality of the art, but also the RESEARCH that went behind all of your artistic choices. Angel blew me away especially. Emphasizing Angel's smaller eyes made me extremely happy because it's one of my favorite traits about his original design. The research that went behind the details for Lucifer was just--- *chefs kiss* the golden thread on the horns was by far my favorite touch, on top of the pomegranate for the fruit.
21:41 Minor correction here- Vaggie knew she could be harmed *by another exorcist,* because it was Lute who pulled her wings off. She still didn't know a denizen of Hell could harm anyone from Heaven. And even then, she didn't know Angelic steel was the secret weapon against angels/Exorcists because Lute ripped Vaggie's wings off with her bare hands and without any weapons. As for Lute slashing out Vaggie's eye with an Angelic spear, I can chalk up Vaggie missing this due to being blinded by pain and by the loss of said eye. If I were Vaggie and suffered the same wounds she did, I probably wouldn't remember what weapons hurt me, especially if I were ambushed/attacked from behind like she was by Lute.
exactly!! it really annoys me that ppl act like it's inconsideration on the writers' part bc she didn't think she can get hurt by demons SPECIFICALLY. i think it makes sense for the whole "angels think they cant get hurt" thing that even one who had her wings and eyes literally ripped off is unaware of her own mortality lmao
I think most of the confusion comes from the dialogue and how it was interpreted by the audience. What Carmilla says in the show is "did you know angels could be harmed?" Most people (myself included) interrupted this as her asking "did you know angels could be harmed by anyone or anything?" If Carmilla had said "harmed by demons" there likely wouldn't have been this confusion
As a person in the Fandom, I honestly liked the first video. It needed to be researched a little bit better, but I seriously hope the rest of the Fandom does chill tf out as well.
@@FvckinMacNCheeze I can absolutely agree with that take. I agree, it wasn’t her best video and could have used a lot more research, however I enjoyed it nonetheless. Constructive criticism is great when requested, and I love how people try to do their own spin with things. But people just go completely feral with it and it’s a mess ._.
I feel that in your angel redesign it would've made sense to do more 70s themed drag to show that his sex work and drag is something Valentino more forces onto him than his own personal choices and expression
@Apowo16 I know I just feel that having val's decade aesthetic take over Angel's design would show that even though he enjoys what he does, Val still controls his personal expression of that drag and sex work as his boss and abuser
Another fun tidbit I remember hearing somewhere about the devil statue was that that after the first statue was removed for being too beautiful, the church commissioned the original artist’s brother to create the statue of the devil. Unfortunately, his statue was even more beautiful than the one before…
@@Tyranid_Hive_Mind sounds like a skill issue of the people in the church. A huge part is not following lust, It seems fitting the devils beauty and temptations would be a trial to pass lol
Ooooooo the concept for Angel's extra 2 limbs is so good. The more I think about it, maybe they cound function like his chest puffs. Like the puffs looks like boobs and his arms accentuates the illusion of curved hips, making his design even more hourglass for when his in drag. kinda wish his other arms are bigger/humanlike instead of fluff stubs now
I totally agree. I actually thought for a hot minute when I was watching the show that his chest fluff was his extra arms just inside his shirt or something
I'm really proud of you Lavender, I have heard that you have gotten nasty backlash and yet you still continue, the way you have handled it is so impressive and I'm glad you arent really submitting to it you do it girl I believe in you:3
i know right!? I don’t agree with the hate she got, but i did agree that her initial redesigns were made without much knowledge of the show. I’m glad that she was able to listen to the genuine criticism (bc i could understand why she wouldn’t with all the jerks) and make an improved video cuz her new redesigns are so cool and well thought out!! and i enjoyed learning stuff about history and religion too. i think this vid is one of her best videos imo
@@clayr.w1829 Yes, I do agree that the designs weren't great but the comeback was amazing, they look much more thought out and a bit more understandable than the original
Honestly so glad that you’re remaking/making a part 2 to this video! I don’t understand why the OG got so, sooooo much hate😭 it’s not like you have the power to change the show anyways- Edit: just to clear some things up! Yes, the OG video was full of misinformation, but lavendertowne mentioned herself that she was in a tough situation at the time that she made it, which is partially as to why that video had a lack of quality. I just noticed that some people where hating Haley in the replies, which I feel is a bit unnecessary knowing the context to why the OG video lacked in quality
Yeah. The original video wasn’t good, which even I as someone who hasn’t watched the show could tell, but not every video can be a masterpiece. Sometimes you just need to put something out to keep a deadline, for instance. But some fans treated the video like Haley personally murdered their whole family, or something.
@@Acidfrog475Her og video was filled with incorrect information. I love Haley and I’m not a huge fan of Hazbin. I don’t condone harassment of any kind. But she didn’t even get basic info right in the og.
@@Acidfrog475 look I love lavendertowne so much but the old video was horrible. It spread misinformation and used non official sources. She also admitted to not even watching or doing any research on hazbin before making the video. The video was lazy and just poorly made.
The Hasbin fandom had to wait a long time to have the show so I guess the old fans became sorta obsessive over it? It makes their reactions over the top at times.
i know this is a really minor detail but;; i love that you gave charlie and lucifer three horns or more and all the others have two. it js makes them feel more special as they have something in common that the other character's dont. which makes sense, as they are the king/princess of hell and they have more power than the other characters. love the colour palette as well,, it still has the red/white theme of the original hazbin hotel show but it's way easier on the eyes and has a lot of other shades instead of the bright, highly saturated red. all of ur ideas are insanely creative!! lowk i wanna see this versio of hh animated as a short or something. thx for continuing ur work despite all the backlash
I love Lavender'sa exorcist design but the sad part is that is not anything revolutionary. Hazbin tried to be different but in doing so and avoiding the classic angle design they made it worse. I do think that using Crusaders as inspiration was pretty clever though
I think the fandom kinda misrepresents niffy a lot where she is evil but personally I think she has just got a lot of trauma and would love to see her backstory
They don’t misrepresent Nifty the show does 💀 she’s an obsessive blood-lustful woman-child in the show, it’s the wiki and outside sources that expand on her character. Not really the average watchers fault that they see her and take her at face value. I get what you mean though, she could be super interesting!
Honestly while Niffty is pretty off the wall compared to the rest of the characters (plus she seems to be accquainted with Alastor) I don't really see anyone in the fandom saying she's "evil."
Not evil, and I do think it could be worth to get a glimpse of her backstory. I don't think she's OCD just because she likes to clean, but the interaction with Angel at the club does point to her obsession with cleaning having deeper roots.
I personally just think she's a chaotic clean freak who is short, obsessive, and friendly. I also find her to always be doing her own thing with a love for bloodlust. The only time she needed someone was while drunk
I think Charlie’s issues with Lucifer might actually be more down to Lilith. In the flashback, it looked like she was taking Charlie away from Lucifer, so he might not have been seen as neglectful by Charlie because he’s just that kind of person, but rather because of outside forces. He also has depression which can make you want to hide away and cut people off, even when you love them.
Its obvious in the pilot he had said hurtful things and neglected charlie on purpose even after lilith left even if hes closed off why did he go to charlie right away when she called? Why was he SO nice?? In the pilot it was obvious he had said damaging stuff to her but in the show hes so SO nice and patient w her literally the first episode he appears
@@erastiesa They probably changed their minds about the direction they wanted to take the character. Similar thing happens between the pilot and the show with Stolas in Helluva Boss.
About Lucifer being a contradiction, you CAN have parents that are very overprotective and still grossly negligent. My parents where like that. My parents were like that. Incredibly overprotective to the point that I was sheltered and very socially unaware but incredibly emotionally and physically negligent to the point I had to live with a very treatable infection for years and almost passed because of it. I do agree that it could have been better handled, as you said.
As a fan of the show I wish the fandom wasn’t so salty about redesigns. While I personally enjoy the tumblr sparkle dog energy of the original, I understand that the designs are very flawed and I enjoy seeing other artists takes. I’m also able to acknowledge how flawed the show is and I enjoy hearing other people’s takes. Ignore the side of the fandom who harass you for this, they’re just… the loud minority of the fandom. I can guarantee we aren’t all like this 😭 you’re my favorite artist honestly and I adore your takes!
Personally I really like Angel's design I personally would have given him a bit more spider elements maybe give him 4 legs to give more of that siloute but dunno if that would be too hard to animate. Also I am a massive fan of the series and I never relised his dots where supposted to be eyes since they look exactly like freckles in visis's style
I like the addition of more clearly spider-like elements to Lav's version of Angel Dust; However male spider creatures in her universe have 2 legs and 6 arms, while females have 4 legs and 4 arms. His twin sister Molly is designed that way in early concept art and in the show (she's in Heaven.) One set of her arms is retractable like Angel's lower arms. I'm also wondering why Angel doesn't have a spider's abdomen/lower body? In "Poison" he's briefly shown wearing a fluffy white "tail" attachment that I think looks really cute and I'm not sure why he doesn't have one. Molly doesn't have one either, and you'd think that since female jumping spiders have bigger abdomens than males, she'd have something that would look adorable as a fluffy skirt. I'd also LOVE for them to have something on their body that resembles pedipalps, which are a small fuzzy set of appendages real spooders have near their mouth. Molly's bangs look like those pedipalps, so I think Angel could have a fuzzy "shirt-collar" or "choker" around his neck for his pedipalps. (Val has white fur on him that's part of his body bc it's on his wings, but looks like it's clothing because his wings look like a coat/cape when they're retracted.)
Slight correction: that statue isn't the one that was taken down. There was a hotter, even sexier statue that it's referring to. The one you showed in the video is the replacement (that seems sexier to us, but at least alludes to his fall)
@@Tyranid_Hive_Mind if that's the case the version I heard is that the first one was taken down for being too sexy, but then the second one ended up being even sexier, but by then they had already spent too much money on this and just left it 😂
2 things (preface: i greatly enjoy your work and think these redesigns are excellent) 1. Angel does have a couple scenes where, when he gets really mad or aggressive or whatever, his six freckley eyes open so you can see that they are in fact eyes 2. there's a pretty popular theory that the reason Lucifer is set up to be this awful deadbeat dad but doesn't act like it is because Lilith, Charlie's mom, forced him for some reason to not be able to see her while she was growing up. Anyways, great work as always!
for the first one tbh it's like.... barely noticeable. i think it would be more interesting to make those eyes more visible at all times rather than the once or twice he gets really mad for 2, that is just a fan theory, it's not canon. and imo lucifer is shown to be neglectful even outside of lilith's influnce
@@AstronomicalJelly That's fair, and i completely agree. there's a lot of fun to be had in animation with details like that and i do wish they went further with it.
Lucifer’s redesign is definitely my favourite (I love the dragon aspects so much - I don’t see that in a lot of modern lucifer art!! And the string-halo is heartbreaking) , but I disagree with his character notes the most. I think him being a distant father that doesn’t know how to parent, while still genuinely loving his kid, is a pretty good depiction of how children can still end up traumatised even if their parents didn’t outright abuse them. Though I do agree that the redemption premise would be more interesting if the cast had a few more blatantly “bad” characters. Hopefully we see that with Alastor next season!
Adam comes to mind when she talked about blatantly “bad” characters. His whole personality is Lilith’s toxic ex but, he has the material to be more complex. Eve was tricked into eating the forbidden fruit and he probably ate it too. They saw evil get into the world and kicked out of Eden. I don’t care if Valentino doesn’t get redeemed because there are some people that will never change and that topic is valid.
I’m currently a college student in a design major, and as I struggle with actual design elements your videos are such a good resource to learn from! The way you clearly explain your research, thought process, and why you choose elements for your designs is so inspiring and helpful. Thank you!
The way your Lucifer redesign had me BREATHING HEAVILY. You made him so gorgeous and when you look at him you can just TELL that he's the king of hell. If not, then you can tell he's a very important demon who's separate from the hotel. Lucifer is my favourite character from the show, but I'm willing to admit that his design didn't really give off the vibe that he's the king of hell. You gave him just what he needed!
I find Hazbin to be cool idea! Edit: I haven’t watched Hazbin but god do I love your redesign of Angel! I like the concept of him being a drag queen in hell as well lmao
I love your designs! Angel, Vaggie and Nifty look so good! I don’t understand how people can send hate if they dislike someone’s options on things that really don’t matter 😅
Nifty's design is fire hello??? I love bugs and I ADORE how you incorporated them into your design sm!!! ❤❤❤ also yeah I agree that animal features should be made more prominent on characters that have them
Oooh the Lute/angels change is so much more interesting now! Like Lute in the show knows what she is doing is bad and looks antagonistic. But this redesign now is so much more intimidating. Like imagine these celestial beings killing you, with no emotions cause they truly believe they are doing good. That is more intimidating to me than an antagonist character.
Fun fact: The difference between a pentagram and a pentacle isn't the orientation of the symbol but rather that a pentagram is the star itself whereas the pentacle is the star inside of the circle, whether it is upside-down or rightside-up. The confusion comes from a misunderstanding started by Christianity and doubled down on by counter culture Satanists and similar groups. Anyways, loved your redesigns for these characters. Great job as always.
I want to see you do Helluva Boss now. It’s funny what you said about Lute reminding you of Hellborn because I thought the same thing about her horns, they look like the Imp’s horns
Every redesign you make is so beautiful, thoughtful, and well researched. You articulate the reasons behind the changes you make so well and they're all aesthetically amazing. I agree one thousand percent about Angel giving stickbug vibes, lol. I love what you did with him especially. Thanks so much for the amazing content and inspiration - doing this kind of stuff with Hazbin can be so hard in terms of backlash but everything you did with it has been super awesome.
I think it's absolutely fine if we're harsh on a product, especially if it's a product we love, because it means we care all the more. What's not ok it's going against each other and insulting each other on our own opinions! I like Hazbin hotel enough and I'm fine with most of the designs, but there are a couple I absolutely despise and I don't agree with some of the common outfit choices Viv makes with her characters! I don't like how the characters don't represent clearly how they died and the time period they're in (you showed quite clearly this even in characters I didn't know about), I don't like how half the cast has a padded formal jacket/tailcoat, a bowtie and/or a tophat, on characters that would make no sense! Like, half the cast shops from one singular shop in all of hell, they dress the same! And this necessarily implies that the silhuettes are all similar to each other! Anyway apart from this I like the show, we can hate some things and love other things, no? (edit) Oh btw I loved your designs to bits!!! You reimagined the characters fixing all the problems I had with them but they are still recognizable! You fixed wonderfully especially Lucifer, which is the ONLY character design I absolutely hate in its entirety, it's giving water, air, nothing, and you made him so compelling, filled with beautiful imagery!!!
I love that you made the forbidden fruit something other than an apple. The show clearly tries really hard to be different, but they still represented it as an apple. Also as a ginormous Lute fan, I LOVE the design you gave her
I love that you researched historical drag for Angel's redesign! I know Pride's almost over, but I'd love to see you do a video designing drag personas/outfits inspired by different things. Your character designing videos are my favorites!
I have my own personal headcanon about Lucifer’s contradictory behavior. Mainly that 1: he has some sort of social anxiety/autism on top of his depression (there is no way in the world he is neurotypical) and 2: he’s the kind of neurodivergent who requires prompting and direct instructions in day to day life. He does care about his daughter, he just has no idea how or when to interact, on top of his lack of motivation to do anything non rubber ducky related due to the aforementioned depression.
Lavendertowne, I love how detailed your videos are! It almost feels like you spend more time making one-off designs than the show creators (/lh). When I need inspiration to draw, I watch your videos!
It's insane how much better and more thematically appropriate all of these designs are. Like, i felt even from the pilot that there was something kinda off about the designs but other than angel dust which really doesn't look like a spider i couldn't quite think of what it was, but literally everything about how you explained your thought process behind these designs makes it so obvious why the hazbin designs just feel a little odd.
17:20 "and i have a little golden thread tied to the tips of all of his horns to look like he's tried to reattach the Halo to his head" MY JAW LITERALLY DROPPED IRL AT THAT SMALL BIT OF VISUAL DESIGN STORY TELLING
just a little thing about the "Vaggie knows that angels can ne harmed" thing. Its 100% the show's fault for not explaining things clearly, but the angels know they can be harmed by other angels, what they didn't know was that ANYONE with an angelic weapon can harm them. Thats why Vaggie was suprised to learn that the residents of hell could fight back against angels, despite having been hurt herself. But honestly i feel like things like this are things the creators wouldve wanted to be in the show but couldn't because of their time requirements, which is why the moment is so confusing in the show. This is also why a popular critique of season 1 is that it feels rushed, they didnt have the time to fully develop what they wanted to do i think
If they knew that angels could harm them with angelic weapons… why on earth would they ever think they WOULDN’T be harmed by those exact same weapons if anyone else was wielding them?
@@alexbennet4195 because in the show, there are so minimal angels who were harmed. For the longest time, everyone think angels couldn't be killed, so if one was harmed (like Vaggie), it's much more reasonable to think it's because the person who harmed them were supreme in power instead of thinking angel as a species can be harmed.
I LOVE YOUR ANGEL REDESIGN SM! At the beginning when you explained your idea for the extra limbs I was wondering how would that work and then you showed that drag outfit and I completely fell in love. It reads so much more like a spider, well integrated balance of human like and creature like, it doesn’t look cluttery and THE BURLESQUE INFLUENCES AAA🙏✨
Ugh i LOVE Lucifer’s design here because my biggest critique on his design in the show is that it seems like an afterthought to Charlie’s design. He design to me reads “we needed Charlie’s dad” and therefore much of his character becomes “Charlie’s dad” instead of the complicated character they’re trying to portray. And your design gives homage to Charlie, but ultimately it gives him more mystery and conflict as a character that doesn’t revolve around Charlie
The show's take on morality was very disappointing to me. The question of "can a demon truly become good?" is interesting, but the only answer the show is comfortable with is "yes... only if they were always good to begin with!" Most of the characters the shows considered redeemable aren't even that horrible to begin with, and the characters were thought were truly horrible turn out to have always been good deep down inside. It's a very... binary look at morality. It doesn't feel like the characters change and grow, it feels like we're just told they were always like this but are now showing it.
The show isn't even that edgy tbh. It's 'safe' edgy, like the sort of humor where teens online joke about committing tax fraud or arsen. I enjoyed this show a lot, much more than I was expecting since I went into it expecting it to be bad as I hate helluva boss. but I think it very much shows this story and it's characters have been in her head for so long that she won't cut characters/ideas even if the show would benefit. Like maybe this is controversial but showing a character like Valentino is not a good idea when another main idea your story is trying to push is 'everyone deserve a chance at redemption!!' while directly showing us someone who would never be welcome in the hotel where 'everyone' is welcome to try redemption. but she'd never cut valentino/angel or dumb down their story because it's her OC from when she was a teenager lol. it also could have been interesting if his character was used to show Charlie yeah, some people suck and don't deserve a chance + teaching her to be more assertive since she is literally princess of hell and that seems barely relevant ever? which is totally the direction I thought that episode was going in but instead it was Charlie learning to not overstep boundaries :/
I mean we haven't really seen much of any actual horrible person getting redeemed. The only thing we really have seen is some goofy person who did work on it a lot. If someone is truly horrible then they probably won't care enough to try to be better anyway.
As much as I love Hazbin hotel and the original designs, these slap SO much harder. Like I honestly think these designs make more sense than the originals, especially when you read the character descriptions on the wiki and they clash severely with the designs. So honestly this is rlly well done! 💕Would you ever maybe redesign Adam or the Vees, or maybe the Seraphim?
going nuts over your nifty design! shes so cute!!!! I absolutely love the way you go about character design, you're so thoughtful, meticulous, and creative and are so inspiring to me as an artist who is passionate about character design myself
I lov the way you designed lute so much, the exorcists looking completely holy and perfect makes for an oddly scary villain and it represents the messages in the show so well
I’m so glad you included Lute!!! You did an amazing job making her look “holier than thou” and seem more confident that they are doing the correct thing instead of a soldier who’s geared up to be fought against.
These redesigns all look great. 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 I particularly like the Angel, Lucifer, Husk, Dotty, (I think that’s her name? The bug) Vaggie, and the angel. I think that those could honestly pass into the main show perfectly. I love your other designs and how you highlighted the character design elements that were missing. I think I personally, if I was working as ViziePop’s crew I would tweak Alastor’s design not having a black suit for more color variety, and some additional “this is someone who you don’t mess with” elements… and maybe a smidge or two changes onto Charlie to make her seem more like a Hotel Host. But yeah, I love these designs, and as an AU there work amazingly. 🤩
I absolutely LOVE your angel design :D he is my favourite character and one that I hold super close to my heart and I’m super glad that you went for historical aspects for his drag persona
i love what you did with angel dust’s arms. from the sketch, i immediately knew what was going on! perfection. honestly, great designs all around 😄 also, i was JUST thinking of u and ur designs the other day and then see this in my feed!! woo!
Hear me out, Hazbin Hotel as an anime but with these character designs. It can still have the same plot/same writing. But like with these character designs and Demon Slayer combat and movement animation.
I’m thinking of doing something like this with my best friend! The artstyle is gonna be kinda inspired by yap1co and plastiboo’s art :3 we are probably gonna call it damnation rehab!
As a big Hazbin fan, I’m insanely embarrassed that you have to have constant disclaimers to avoid the fandom throwing a hissy fit over someone having a different opinion. I personally also have a lot of criticisms about the show, but as someone who loves over the top designs and has had issues with religion in the past, there’s still parts that really speak to me. But it is DEFINITELY not perfect and the fans need to realize that it’s okay to acknowledge that. Absolutely LOVE the designs by the way! I never really had much of an issue with Angel’s design before, but your vision is so fun and I frigging love it! And the Lucifer design with the fake wings and halo is genius! 😭. And Lute might give me nightmares 😳👏🏻.
God these comments are already so annoying. “Erm actually you forgot this minor detail!” “You got this part wrong!!” Like ohhh my god I’m genuinely convinced nobody can ever attempt to redesign these characters without someone saying they did it wrong. How do yall expect someone to know all the details of hazbin when like half the character info was mentioned in an off tweet or an interview. It’s not that serious and it’s just a fun redesign video jfc
Exactly!!like how do you expect her to know a VERY tiny detail mentioned in a live stream from like 1683 let the girl do what she wants it's her redesigns
Firstly, people can give feedback and constructive criticism. Secondly, she'd just have to watch the show, no need for livestreams. A lot can be taken JUST from the show itself. Redesigns are fine, but let people give feedback to HELP creators understand the characters.
I am IN LOVE with these designs!!! As someone who has been in the fandom for quite some time now, it’s nice to see them differently and more “accurately” portrayed.
Me freaking out about how good your character designs are, with the tiny details that work without being to hard on the eyes or to animate (even outside of the Hazbin AU, I'm always impressed and learning so much)
