Reincarnation and the Tripartite Soul of Indo-European Tradition 

killoreo No. They toke are gods alway from us.

I'm no Hindu- but I definitely hear what you are saying.

i wanna meet some other peoples ho believe in vedism and sanatan

@@ixisinvestigator6009 I m here

@@nitinbull8720 can we give each others facebooks? or discord?

Mind blown. Its fascinating insight. This seems to fit quite nicely, however is this your speculation/interpretation? Just wondering if there's within the texts to strengthen the link. Either way, fascinating. Thank you.

Of all Norse figures I have always identified most with Odin as a heavily philosophical/spiritual person, even though my name is Dustin/Thorstein/"Thor's Stone". Thank you for your insight.

Goes back to the sky father and the indoaryan mythos of the one who is complete in his people as 3

I would also like to add that these 3 differant "levels" or parts seem to correspond to the differant aspects of a person's life .We all have these 3 aspects at all times but they each seem to grow or decline as life progresses. A young teenager through to early adulthood is quite likely to be chasing sex , and pleasure, like drinking and partying.The next stage can be about family ,making connections at or for work , being part of a team or seeking "your" type of people to associate with , making a good name for yourself for employment and personal reasons. The next stage then moves into seeking understanding and sense out of life's experiences, looking for knowledge, and truth unburdened by societies norms or rules , or prevailing attitudes or religions ,and thinking about the next life or death. I read about this in one of those free books the Hare Krishna give out once ,and it had a really good illustration to go with it , showing a man going through life and death , and rebirth.

Completely agree with your first comment! The stuff about Tripartite things - well yes it's very nice to organize things and thoughts in groups of three, where they can be compared. For example the yogic concept of "three gunas", which can literally be applied to everything everywhere.

Eieio the depth is often overlooked even by those who call themselves pagans

This isn't really true, it's more to do with the loss of esoteric meaning in the few surviving texts we have, and the lack thereof.

nice this is in my indo scythian tribal beliefs as well

@@jattfitness3136 Reincarnation is mentioned in our book The Bhagwad Gita. Chapter 9 verse 25 says, If u worship Devas or the demi Gods like sun or moon, your soul will go to them. If u worship the forefathers ,u will get stuck with them. If u worship the spirits and ghosts , u will eventually enter the spirit world.

Yes brothers!!! 💪🏻🩸❤🍀 I very much recommend the YT channel "Norse magic and beliefs", his video on reincarnation, and how they burried people diffrently due to how they wanted to reincarnate etc, is very fashinating!!! He comes from a similar school of thought as "Lady of The Labyrinth", also very much recommend!! (I love this video of yours Survive the Jive, I return here now and then, bless you!!!!! 💪🏻🍀💚👑)

its really not a coincidence that things like this happen, its been happening to me more and more often as i progress in my learning of Traditionalism and spirituality. It's only when you reject blind belief and atheism that you can truly have the potential to find the metaphysical.

Deities do not work in our favour. They are to make our life harder, so we can grow more wise and stronger.

Also, Google knows what you're reading most of the time, and when it think it does, it'll suggest in accordance to your "manifested" interests.

SirWilliamTambourine I'm subscribed to STJ, of course RU-vid was going to suggest me the video lol

Law of attraction.

Mostly no, also ancient Hinduism lacked that idea. The belief in an afterlife/spirit world was common.

@@nepalifighter5275 Hinduism lacked belief in reincarnation? That's certainly news to anyone who has read the Bhagavad Gita. Reincarnation was certainly part of pre-Xian Celtic beliefs as we understand them. Ancient Greeks believed in an "after-life" which came to an end at some point and the person was reborn, swept clean of all memory of previous life..

When we think of the Magi scriptures the Muslims destroyed it´s heartbreaking, one can only wonder the fantastic Indo-European connections those teachings must have kept, as the Magis seem to have had much in common with European pagan traditions! Parthians and Medes (both ancestors of the modern Kurdish tribes) must have had it in its pristine forms. Hinduism has fortunately preserved a lot of it but from what I heard from Hindu friends when I was on Facebook, only some special traditions have kept the true Indo-European spirit, which was very broad-minded and not given to sexual bias influenced by the patriarchal Abrahamic religions.

@CoD RocKz # Wild gaming Well, any religion changes through time, that´s a natural process any of them go through and some changes are for the better. However, to know what you call 'original Hinduism' one would have to pick one of its oldest, attested phases when it was not the common religion once shared by Iranian and Indian tribes, when there was not Zoroastrianism and Hinduism yet. In which sources do you rely on for your assertions, do you have any links to any accessible article available for free in English on this?

@CoD RocKz # Wild gaming Oh, you were referring to the Vedic period, ok, I get what you mean now. I've had Hindu friends on Facebook that would hint me on many topics of Hinduism approached from alternative perspectives, i.e. non mainstream. Even after I dropped out of FB I still use their tips as basis for my own web searches.

because of brahmin, lot of our people left sanatan dharma called as hindu, pagan, mithras and mayan. brahmin ruined these religion for there own greed, Vedas only truth but brahmin alway oppose vedas. too much brahmin supremacy make everybody leave the all these religion.

@Just another geek i didn't anything about there caste, all I was saying they feel superior then other, which is not the narrative of brahmin

Aguanile mai mai

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@Store Patternator BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

@Store Patternator NO, because these are the CORE spiritual concepts of the Spiritual REALITY of our planet (& the multiverse) & all who dwell within it. It is the LAW.

nope

Indo/europeans and aboriginal/europeans were different peoples and different cultures... indo european culture originated on the central asian steppe not in europe

should be the same for the rest of the world...

@@atomicdawg100 And then they moved into europe and established new nations. If you want to go back, both the PIE Europeans and indo Europeans came from Africa.

יעקב בארק very true..

I can't believe someone thinks this is true, not just that proto-Indo-Europeans believed it but that it's actually how human beings are created. I don't even know where to begin with this: the argument from antiquity, where do these essences come from how, how do they affect the physical person.

firstly, at the beginning of the video, he said these were his personal beliefs. Now, do you think this is all just some bullshit someone made up one day? look it up yourself dude, do your own research. i have, and i have logically came to the conclusion that they did believe in these things. the concepts Survive the Jive talks about, they makes a lot of sense. They're compelling, mainly because these abstract concepts are seen in so many other pagan / pre-christian beliefs. Also, I've been able draw a lot of parallels with pagan and pre-christian beliefs with science. For example, in the ancient vedic texts, there are mentions of planetary systems, round planets, and even very (relatively) advanced concepts such as time dilation. another example is the fact that the ancient greeks believed that in the beginning of time there was only chaos, no light or structure, and only fundamental materials. then, things started coming together and light was born, along with planets, solar systems and what-not. this is almost identical to the description the Big Bang Theory gives about the beginning of the universe. (maybe this is a weaker example because the big bang theory doesnt even have an equation to sum it up and has many inconsistencies) And you know what, even if all of this isnt true, and the human has no soul (which in my opinion is kind of absurd to believe we dont), its still much better to believe in these kind of lies as appose to accepting that we have no souls and life is meaningless, living a miserable existence, and becoming a husk of a human being; aka, an atheist or nihilist.

remember, man is the measure of all things. not science. science merely a platform that lets us collect information, to which the interpretation of such is left to the observer. science will not and cannot have the answers to everything. and, Philosophy is a school of knowledge just as valid as science.

In case I wasn't clear, I don't think previous people were morons for believing in this. Based on the more limited knowledge of time and the lack of the rigorous scientific method, these were rational to believe. Also, like the language many of the beliefs come from earlier ancestral or nearby tribes which explains the similarity; if they were all totally different that would require an explanation. Metaphysical concepts are often metaphorical as well, so they can be interpreted in many ways. That doesn't make them wrong because of that, but you have to look into how closely their concepts actually match scientific theory and take into consideration explanations that are at odds with it. I don't agree believe in something, even if it's not true, just because it's better for some reason. Denial of reality leads to problems. What exactly is better in this sense anyway? Is it really that if you and everyone don't believe you have a special place in the universe, you might as well slit your wrists in the bathtub?

Adrian KSM I think a thinking person must pass through the atheism phase to cleanse their perceptions before they can understand spirituality.

Godric of Gaul 🔥please explain this meaning?

Yes like (Beowulf)

That's the RU-vid algorithm giving you more of what it knows you like.

Further note: contrary to 17:30 in the video, the Indian class system isn't tripartite but divided into 4: Brahmana, Kshatriya, Vaishya, Shudra. Also at 8:14 daemon does indeed refer to a divine spirit, according to a very old source, Hesiod (Theogony, line 990).

Restless Researcher The early Hindu society during the Rigvedic (except Mandala X) and pre-Rigvedic times was divided into 3 classes. As the society becams more complex the 3rd class was split into two. This can still be seen from the name of the 3rd class Vaishya which literally means "of the vish(village)" i.e. villager or commoner. Later Vaishya referred to merchants and the commoners were then called Shudras. Very similar to how in post industrial society the eartswhile commoner class split into bourgeois and proletariat.

@@amannoobs what do you mean by 2 or 3 Upanishads instead of whole Gita?

pranav athalye Incorrect. It appears more likely that The three upper classes shared racial homogeneity as the Āryas, while the fourth class represent a separate racial population that was incorporated later. This is why the vaiśya possess the particular privilages of hi born Āryas; e. g. To study the Veda, perform sacrifices, and offer charity. This was never permitted to the śudras, and it is unlikely that the vaiśyas arose from this fourth class and acquired the dignities of a dvija later.

very good comment

RandAlThor 🌫Are Macedonians Greek?

@@apples-girl9210 it's a slavic thing

@@apples-girl9210 Not really, the area they live in was called i think by the romans macedonia for administrative purpouses, so maybe thats how the name stuck, but they dont have much in common with greeks, the tribes living there spoke latin before slavs settled there.

Might Dyaus Phater be related to Tiwaz/Deiwoz? Tiwaz used to be the most revered god in antiquity, atleast before the Migration Period kicked off and war became a such central theme in culture that Thunroz, the Germanic god of war, became one of the most important gods (atleast afaik - I'm no expert)

@@johangrostkerck6046Thunraz was already an important god (and goes all the way back to the days of a singular Indo-European people). But yes, you’re correct: Tiw is related name and formerly role to say, Zeus or Jupiter. Woden took his place, not Thunraz.

Very nicely said!

"That is how, without spiritual required, a strong connection can be made." I completely agree with what you said, except for this part. I think this concept of ancestors and offspring (which both span across space, time and matter in a sense that you personally will never be able to) is actually profoundly spiritual. Our relationship to this reality which lies almost beyond our imagintion is hard to define as anything other than spiritual I believe.

Greetings from Brazil.

That is what Julius Evola discerned as a feminine and telluric way of “eternal life”, and the way you put it makes it sound like Diotima of Martinea viewed eternal life or in this case reincarnation in Plato’s works such as “Symposium”, definitely a very mediocre way of comprehending transcendence

interesting angle. thanks

Have you both ever looked into Dr.William Pierce's Cosmotheism explanation? It's very similar to what Elisabeth mentions here.

I actually agree with you Elisabeth we cannot reject our earthly desires. It is easy for the Buddhist monks to do it because they are provided for nutritionally and financially. Unlike our hunter gatherer forbears who had to live from meal to meal, day to day. They were hunters and warriors both, when they could seek glory and honour. That coupled with their short life span they must have lived great lives, if they were great enough perhaps they transcended being reincarnated enough times. Interesting thoughts, loved the video Tom.

Not that he's a role model, but this reminded me of Crowley's mantra 'do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law'. I think you may be onto something.

A root cellar reinforce interior with stack stone, then cover in turf. Centuries later people resettle the area to farm again called the earlier people's food storage shed a " fairy " mound. Sorry I learn my intellectual dismisness in grade school back in the 1980's dealing with Southern Baptists bull crap derogatory disregards towards other people's beliefs. I got paddled a lot in Sunday school. Case in point, depending on how much land and cash you work have to work with. Create a hut, .. a.) place a marking post into the ground, tie a rope to it and walk a eight to 12 ft circle around the post marking the ground. Then dig a trench outside the circle and stack/ pack the dirt to create a foundation base for the hut. Buying or free hauling any local flat field stone will help. b.) Land clear a bunch of shrub tree growth and use that to build the hut walls/ roof as an over size wicker basket, follow with a mud plaster. Then you have a sleeping area which humans have lived in for thousand of years. I always had strange/ weird dreams in the one I built as a teenager. 2.) Spiritual energies, .. a.) Current theory what I have been hearing for the pass 30 years, concrete/ asphalt blocks " nature/ natural " energies. And stone out lasts wood and stores mental energy longer. Such thing as " healing " crystals, and there use to be sad lonely fire place hearths. The stone remembers the person. b.) In old foundations in Europe and a few in the Americas there was a spot in the basement or cabin that had an arm length narrow pit lined to stone. It was used to Draw up Earth energy or to make offerings to the Under World to their ancestors. c.) As for the hut, remove the floor turf, dig just below the top soil and create a stone eight spoke medicine wheel lined with the North Star cause the ancients didn't know of the magnetic north pole. Cover the wheel with about a foot of pack dirt. The center of the hut/ medicine wheel is where you keep your cooking/ warming fire. Then get ready to have a bunch of imaginary visitors showing up. Nut job Jesus freaks nearly see, blame, claim that the devil is everywhere haunting them. Or always being visited by angels. Now you have something called " knockers " fairy, imp, what nots or children spirits. Most times I just have squirrels dropping down on my roof or a bird flying into my front door window. Other times I hear a loud banging knock and nothing is outside my door. 3.) Build at your discretion, cause once something come into your life, they do not leave. Humans are great sports for fun & games. a.) Believe nothing and there is no " science " equipment to record or back anything. Importantly tell no one new or did not help you build the hut what is under the floor. b.) People will express what ever they view/ vision base on their own cultural background belief, some will just feel calm or have the hair on the back of their necks stand on end. Honestly is Sleep/ Dream Research even a logical sound scientific study or just bull crap to get grant money in the same line as " ghost hunters." Religion : there is different levels to reality and my holy book is The Truth on such things. Science/ cough" fictions : Well we do know about vibrational frequencies and a lot of strange thing have been witness which neither religion nor current science can explain. So I'm going to build my own test lab and see how people react being inside of the hut and around it. Hope you have a good weekend, and maybe a good laugh. Gods bless.

@@krispalermo8133 Wow thank you so much for sharing. I am blown away and have tingles like I've been there before in the roundhouse xx

@@judeross3875 For a brief moment and think about the .. odds .. of you finding my post, that in of it's self is a bit magical. Hope you had a good weekend and G*D bless.

@@krispalermo8133 Ah thank you and to you. I drew a picture of what I imagine your hut to be over a year ago!! There is magic I believe at play!! I always imagined my roundhouse to be made from cob walls but interestingly I currently live in a beautiful terraced old miner's stone family cottage. Still has the old coal shed and outside working loo in the back yard complete with hatch. Who knows one day for me I keep looking at that picture I drew and my relationship with stones and our mother earth. I too may sleep in my own built round house. Blessings to you and thank you for the inspiration xx

Your people as in indians?

4 winds

@@tehfuqizg0inon588 like RNA

tehfuq izg0inon Or idk, God and universal truth? Stop thinking in only materialistic terms.

tehfuq izg0inon Your original comment made it seem as if these traits developed within certain genes and only within them, not the point you're making right now.

so glad my work is helpful for you

Glad you enjoyed it!

Jo Alex Sg It’s good that everyone is different. Fight because there people out there that won’t us all to be the same. That’s way there so much war today. God help us all. To stop them. Are we all will be so bored it will be the end of life on earth.

Amazing work, as always! Thank you for offering perspective on such a surprisingly contentious subject, STJ.

Blade this yamnaya word sounds sanskrit.