RELOOP RP7000MK2 SIDE BY SIDE TECHNICS SL1200MK2 VINYL TURNTABLES 

Same here. 😋💪

@@zehplundershu6544 thanks

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Wow! Yeah I agree so much good stuff from this gentleman. A gentle man :) Thank you!

Low key I really miss that part of RU-vid. Talking to a human. Everyone’s trying to be so “production” ready it’s removed the best part of vlogging. The human element

Got a pair of 7k Mk2s and I do not regret the purchase

Couldn't agree more. I co-owned a pair of 1200's a few years ago and my mate moved to Australia and bought my share of them. I recently got the itch to mix again, and bought some LP120's. For the price, they are more than adequate and capable. I've had them for just over two years and they are still going strong.

I recently bought a set of LP120s also!

I have the ATH 120x and Reloop RP 7000 MK2. IMHO for the price difference it is worth to get the RP 7000 MK2 - better build quality, better motor, more precise pitch riding.

The greatest that ever was.

@@MirrorSurfer original 1210's will never be beaten, who actually cares about extra torque, pitch reset , reverse play , 78, Ultra pitch etc. I've never needed none of that shite and I've had 12's since 1983 (first set). As for digitally controlled pitch sliders... don't even go there.

1200s look good but there time is up. Reloop has the top seat now. I personally have the RP-8000 MKII there is nothing like it on this planet. It’s like comparing an SP1200 to todays computers

@@vincestyles1030 I wouldn't know. last gig I DJ'd was in 2003.

Vestax PDX-D3 > Technics 1200 People can tell themselves whatever they want but that is the truth

What pitch problems on the rp? The only pitch problem he mentions is the latching of the pitch fader on the 1200: 33:23.

This is gonna be interesting to say the least

And happy about them?

​@@RC75 a lot. they are just awesome. I've been using them every day since I received the package.

1200's don't 'need' anything...learn to use your hands.

Google "super OEM turntables"...ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-XEEe_xxmKBg.html , In this vid Jonathan is using the exact same turntable by Kam from eleven years ago!

Divadisco in 2009 i had Reloop RP4000s and they worked perfect in huge Clubs! So the 7000s will do too!

I have played with the reloops at the Notting hill carnival on a 50 k rig no worries.

It depends if your mixing records or not , if your performance DJ yes you might need high torque motors , but too much high torque pressure on any turntable motor will not be great mixing records , Technics has balance of everything really that's why it's industry standard

FSwift DJ mixing has to do with more with the pitch than the torque. Which is why the pitch drive is the most important thing. High torque makes you faster getting the music to the right bpm . But if you worked on the 1200 all your life and then Blend music with a plx1000 you can do it effectively

@@hot4futureyears2come you can mix records with digital pitch even on plx1000 etc but as all club vinyl djs will say, original Analog pitch is just better with the finer pitch adjustments , they all have same pitch in Technics just that new models use a binary system that counts in block whole steps then in half etc with Analog pitch , that's why digital pitch turntable won't stay in without pitch movement every few seconds or so compared to Analog pitch , you can move the plater etc with Analog pitch to keep it in time also , with digital pitch like plx1000 it just goes all over the place with original Technics your not constantly chasing the tempo Your on point , with digital modern turntable your chasing the tempo too much that hinders your fader or mixer creative flow if I can put that more clear lol

@Neale yes, some might say the perfect DJ turntable every made

@@hot4futureyears2come I recently had mix on the new Technics SL 1210 Mk7 , it's really good deck but when I compared mixing vinyl record on both , the sl1200 MK2 won out , the record stayed in time longer again digital pitch and analog , the feet was also not the best and I found the deck bit light , but mixing records and DVS was alright and not as bad as many first thought but depends if djs want to pay high prices for turntable today

In the past I had the Technics SL-1210 MK2 with the ortofon Concorde Scratch (pink). Now I have the current Generation Technics SL-1210GR with the ortofon Concorde Scratch MK2.That's are very good Professional Tool's. Once ortofon and Technics,always ortofon and Technics. A lifelong professional DJ accompaniment. Great😀👍🎼☘🎶

@@PA-Freak98513RY the digital pitch in the GR is terrible, the mk2 is far better for long mixes, it stays locked unlike anything with a digital pitch

Joe Mullineux i just got the MK2 1200. Well worth it. It will last you forever

Ridiculous over priced now like

Not true and not perfect

Jesse Sanchez thank you, you just hit the nail on the head technics are really good but it’s time for a change now

100% I use 7000s mk2 vs a turntablist for dvs and they definitely do the job

and they are not

Reloop - you can get two for the price of one MK7 and the MK7 is way worse built than the Technics MK2 (and the reloop as well)

They've got the same motor, but the pioneer lacks some features

I like the click. Just letting u know it's on the 0 lol.

@@Silkmaster4200 the light does that 😂

The only thing I hate about the 1210 is the center click of the pitch fader which they fixed on the mk3

@@digitalbase9396 but were mk 3 digital or analog pitch faders😉

The digital pitch was introduced in the mk5 deck according to Wikipedia, en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technics_SL-1200

@@digitalbase9396 I think your right...I had my 1210 mk 2 faders replaced ....he replaced them with no click...although I kinda missed it for a while.

Personally I can't tell the difference!

It would be easy to say if it's good or bad if we actually knew the resolution... But I'm going to say this: CDJs also have digital pitch control (of course with finite resolution). If that's good enough for the best of djs out there, then it's good for us too.

I have a pair of the original rp8000's. I mix vinyl and love the lcd display of the pitch for fine beat matching. With technics and rp7000 you kind of guess how much you moved the slider. When beatmatching by ear you can quickly move the fader in tiny increments and know you didnt nudge it too much. This helps when your trying to blend records fast. I can keep 2 records matched for over a minute with the rp8000 before manipulating the platters...not all the time though...same goes for MK5.

@@moscasucio1686 dude you see the bpm on the 8000 as a standalone or it needs stupid laptop serato system to show the bpm on the 8000s screen. Thanks bro Thanks bro

@@moralrevulsionLive no im talking about pitch percentage. By no means does it show bpm on vinyl

Stalker find somebody with a strong grip.. Sorry not great advice but it will go.. I recently bought an old 1210 that was the same, it took a while but went eventually.

Use a strap wrench

What have you done with them if you had like 5 pairs already lol? I thought those things last like forever... Or did you just buy new ones whenever a replaceable part broke?

@@Ex0rz this is over 25 years , ive bought and sold a few times , gave up djing couple times and put money to a holiday and crap like that .. wernt till i got older i realised the value in things , wish i kept them now .

They're both the essentially the same: modeled after the Hanpin DJ-5500

@@ajthefunkmonster4767 I ended up with two fully refurbed 1210s :)

8000reloop aint that bad

@@moralrevulsionLive yeah I have s and mk2s

@@djimma5080 i have techies mk2 reloop mk2 and plx1000 That pl blows em away But ok techies are decoration mostly That 8000 seems.ok just not my cup of tea diving into digital age:p im old i like em old ahaha Try the pl u gonna love it

Agree mate, it's just better all round turntable for real vinyl , your be fine with DVS with the reloop buts that's as far as it goes , if I'm DJ in club with both them decks are instantly know which turntable I'll put my record on (Technics) the other looks too light , the feet etc. It's more about the build

@ja nee I said Technics was old technology in 2000 mate , but it's still good today , the parts are solid built in Japan by Technics Panasonic ! Today's turntables have cheap parts made else where Not much new about reloop who are part of huge DJ electronics group that have Denon , Akai, Numark etc reloop has clearly based and modelled it's deck on Technics SL 1200 mate lol

@@FSwiftDJ Re-loop 7000 series blow Technics out the water, The new Technics design is not the same as the originals, Panasonic made a massive blunder selling the copyright for Technics, Even the Vestax blew Technics away 20 years ago, especially when used for battle Djing!!!

@ Really ? If so why does Johnathan no longer use reloops then lately check his latest vinyl mixing ? He's back to Technics SL 1200 MK2 why ??? Because it's simply better to mix vinyl on ( stays in time longer ) I agree the new Technics are not great , but the original is still the best deck for mixing or the all round DJ If you saying pioneer plx1000 was better ? Well I actually got them and I returned them in 1 week max , they couldn't hold a mix with vinyl simple Reloops are great for performance or battle for sure but not mixing real vinyl The design on rp 7000 is more Technics sl1200 you can see that , Vestax had great decks but was they considered club standard nope !! You never see one in any club , again we are talking original Technics sl1200 sl1210 MK2 here not the new Technics sl1200 Mk7 that is very like a failed Technics sl1210 mk5g deck Your better off getting an expensive Technics SL 1200 GR then them Minus the feet. Back to subject , we are not talking high torque motor performance or features , we are talking solid builds, Solid parts that have stood the test of time with qualtz direct motor and analog pitch that has been the choice for every professional vinyl club djs from late 80s till this day It's a deck that is an all round performer .

@@FSwiftDJ Because he is a Technics fan boy and cannot see past the brand name, The old skool Vestax pdx mark 1 and 2 absolutely blew Technics away in every department and that was 20 years ago, are you saying other manufacturers can't surpass a 40 year old deck is that what you are trying to say?? i've had Technics sl1200s sold them bought Vestax pdx mrk 1, As for the re-loop i've used them and thought they Where easily as good if not better than Technics, they have a ton of better feutures, one's i dd a set on where the 8000s right enough but same motor as the 7000s and thats my opinion as a Dj who's played for 26 years..

Chaz Walker 😂

We all feel you here

You are wrong, I own 2 sl 1210 mk 2 and a reloop rp7000mk 2, the digital pitch is not accurate enough on the reloop, it has to be tweaked almost constantly to keep in time, unlike the 2 1210's that stay synced for ages before even the slightest drift, also the wow and flutter on the reloop is much higher, the printed specs of the reloop are wrong hence the star beside the figure of 0.01 wow and flutter , it's actually 0.1% which is 10 times higher than a Technics , this would also add to drift of speed combined with the lame pitch control of a reloop, and all those important factors aside the techns have lasted the test of time, and some, and some more ....Love to see a reloop still working in 30 years lol

@@michaelcurran9442 Oh bullshit there is no problem with mine. Keep making up excuses fanboy.

Regular DJ works started in 1983 to 1985... never had a platter at home ... did some mix tapes for the guest, indeed... only one side of the tape and then the next guest...and some for me, too. But only a very few - unfortunately... did digi them as wav-files... E.g. did one in spring/summer '84, if you are interested in hearing some VINYL mixing WITHOUT PITCH... I can send you a mp3...cheers, Joachim PS: please provide your email address for the link.

Try ortofon DVL cart. Youll never go back.

@@outnode366 could not find a DVL named cart. ...

@@leonhardtart7163 Typo sorry VNL

@@outnode366 just found it, thanks.👍🏻

what are you talking about? Why would you change a technics for a reloop? It's foolish. The money you would spend on reloops, better invest it in a proper restoration of your technics. Technics will never be beaten. The sound is superb on PA systems and also for homelistening it has a very very strong sound. Reloop is not a professional audio tool, technics is!

I disagree I have had them serviced but like the man said the parts are getting really expensive. I had them for a long time and I didn’t pay a penny for my technics. The rca cables crackle like anything the pop up lights failed again for the 3rd time reloop just look way more appealing

Lenin on acid stop being such a technics fanboy they aren't the best of the best

@@shanefishley379 sounds like whoever is servicing your Technics isn't doing a great job

Ok next bedroom dj

While the Technics are still legendary products to me, I now own the Reloop 7000Mk2 Silver Edition and it's a very, very good turntable ... The SL1200 could still be good but they're often overpriced and yes, they're getting old ... on the other hand I know about the upcoming Technics MK7 but their target retail price is more than twice a 7000Mk2 and since my Reloop is doing a good job, I just can't justify a switch ... moreover, I'm not sure I want to bring a $2000 turntable ($4000 for a pair) into an hostile / club environment ... in the past Technics was the best ... I agree ... but time flies and nowadays it's different ... :-)

@@daniellheureux4867 Totally agree! I couldn't afford a pair of the new Technics or justify spending that much money on them, so after reading several good reviews on the RP7000 Mk2s, that's what I went for and honestly think performance wise, they are better than the 1210s

what about the digital vs analog pitch fader discussion? I'm only starting and have a pair of numark tt200 turntables which are as low budget as possible, but i'm able to mix fine on them... i see a lot of people disregarding any turntable that has a digital pitch fader compared to an analog, they say you can't properly beatmatch on digital faders... as an owner of both, would you said that the difference is really that much? i find it really hard to believe and i think it's just something technics fanboys like to repeat as part of their cult mantra rather than base it on actual experience with both.

@@256k_ I can't tell the difference to be honest, it's not an issue

@@256k_ I had the Numark TT200s for about 10 years and replaced them with RP8000s. I used to DJ on Technics in Clubs ant the Numarks felt cheaper and not as accurate as the Technics but were good enough for home. The RP8000 is on another level. Not missing Technics at all anymore

You mean the 8000s? The 7000s are purist like techies. 8000s are the ones with extra sound features for laptops. I have both. Reloops are equal if not better . But they are super oem means they have a restless pitch not suited for extend mixes into techno and electronic oriented setups. They are tard better suited for battle and scratch. Techies if in good condition hold the pitch longer. Tho you would not be dissapointed. They have excellent sound quality. Check the unseen heroes (mixars sta) half the price of reloop.exact same motor and features .

They are made by Hanpin Electronics based in Taiwan or China.

Looking to isolate the motor and spindle from the plinth. Looks like its attached, given the thump with any tap on the plinth at all. Did they attach the motor to the plinth?

@@allhartfidelity the reloops have awful feedback, they also have a raised platter that should be recessed , I ran one alongside a tech 1200 and with the same needles and with tonearm set at various tracking weights and the tonearms at various heights and the sound of the needle on the reloop was awful , like it was scratching the record, I reckon the needles would last half the time on tge reloop because of record wear caused by the ugly raised platter

@@michaelc1818 isolation is worse than any deck I've ever owned. Any minute breeze passing by can be heard through the pickup. It's a shame to have a decent motor and features within a cardboard box. Not sure if it's the arm that's not isolated, platter/motor, or both.

@@allhartfidelity They are just OEM rubbish like all the hanpin rubbish, even the Pioneers are hanpin and are bad for feedback, regardless of feedback they all have digital pitch which is useless for long mixes and the wow and flutter is bad

@@michaelc1818 I am for home audio use. I've had a 1200 of some form or another for many years. Still have a GLD. The rp7000 was a supreme let down. Got a gold one because I like the color combo (hence the gld) and read on some reloop folks having hum. However, I dont have hum...I have poor isolation. Ideally, I throw the arm in the trash, but doubt I can use the same armboard used to mod the 1200 on the reloop. I would start there and see if that helps. Any idea if that plate for the 1200 used to put SME arms on them would work for the reloop?

They are literally the same turntable in a different shell. The only difference being price

@@nohandle747 no they arent i have both and techies 2 pairs also The legendary pitch of pioneer..will never be beaten. Mix flows like water no matter what With reloop pitch control can be all over the place many times Plx1000 blows them all out of the water even my techies

@@moralrevulsionLive BS. It's proven fact that the PLX1000 is only suitable for timecodes or fast/short vinyl transitions, due to it's digital pitch. Yes digital pitch is good for stability of the platter speed, but the steps in the pitch adjustment are obvious to a good vinyl DJ. None of the Hanpin / super oem decks have the tiny pitch adjustment capability of the Technics Mk2/M3d/Mk5 analogue pitch sliders. That is fact, and they do not hold two vinyl records perfectly beatmatched anywhere near as long as original Technics do. All other turntables apart from Technics use the same Hanpin motor, so they are basically the same. Some just have a few extra features, that is all. The Technics M5g and all models after that, also have digital pitch adjustment, and are not as good as original Technics system.

@@DjNikGnashers lol ok whatever you say . Bro stop the science bs. Plx much superior than older gens techies. I had/have em all. Only 8000s reloop and mk7 techies come close. Leave your fact science bs to non vinylists

@@noobslayerr9732 So, PLX1000 are 'much superior' than original Technics are they ? How about you discuss 'how' they are better, instead of just posting a bullshit bro' science view without any detail or factual proof to back it up. I started DJ-ing in 1980, and still DJ now. I think I'm qualified to call myself a 'vinylist' whatever that is. PLX1000 have more torque (just the same as every other Hanpin motor deck, because they all have the same motor, are you following), but more torque is only good for DJ's who want the platter to keep spinning as they put pressure on it ie scratch/HipHop/Turntablism DJ's, as I already said. It is not a benefit for a vinyl DJ who does long transitions, like house, techno, trance, etc, because the digital pitch moves in larger steps than the analogue pitch slider in a Technics Mk2, M3d, or Mk5. That is a fact. I have used every turntable released, and I mean EVERY different one. The PLX1000 is exactly the same to mix on as the Stanton's, Reloop's, Audio Technica, Denon, Sony, Numark, and a load more. They use the same motor. The differences are in the extra features, and tonearm quality. Every Hanpin motored deck, has the same digital pitch, which is not even half as accurate as the original Technics analogue fader (which still controls a binary / digital circuit, but the adjustment is a lot finer). Sit a well looked after set of 1200Mk2 next to a set of PLX1000, and see how long the Pioneers keep the beats matched without you having to constantly chase the pitch fader to keep them in time. You might never find the exact sweet spot, because it could be in a gap between adjustment steps. On a Mk2, you CAN get it bang on, and they WILL stay locked together for 2 or 3 minutes with practise. If you cannot understand why this is a correct opinion, based on fact, then you are too stupid to even discuss this subject.