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Remarkable Engines: America's Only Double Fairlies 

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@DC4260Productions
@DC4260Productions Год назад
On the subject of Double Fairlies, New Zealand Railways was apparently one of the world's largest users of the type despite only having around 35 examples. One them them - E 175 'Josephine' - is on static display at a museum in Dunedin.
@kiwitrainguy
@kiwitrainguy Год назад
Just so that people aren't misled, 10 were Double Fairlies and 25 were Single Fairlies.
@844SteamFan
@844SteamFan Год назад
Just so you know, Hyce is no longer a Railroads Online developer
@PowerTrain611
@PowerTrain611 Год назад
The Central Railroad of New Jersey also had a double ended "baby-faced" Baldwin engine nicknamed Janus, after the Roman mythological God of beginnings and ends or duality, often depicted with two faces.
@demonorca9539
@demonorca9539 Год назад
That same doubled ended diesel was allegedly Baldwin's last passenger diesel they produced. Somebody can correct me if I'm wrong.
@iplayClarinetthewrongway
@iplayClarinetthewrongway Год назад
That’s pretty cool.
@Pensyfan19
@Pensyfan19 Год назад
@@demonorca9539 That title goes to the Baldwin RP10. Only 3 were made with 2 going to the New Haven's Danl Webster, and one going to the NYC Xplorer, as they were built from April to October 1956. The Baldwin Janus, on the other hand, was built around 1945.
@kiwitrainguy
@kiwitrainguy Год назад
2:40 that loco was just named Mountaineer. The Fairlie Patent plate on the other end appeared on all Double Fairlie locos. On at least one New Zealand Double Fairlie it had the Fairlie plate on one tank and Patent on the other tank. Later ones had Fairlies Patent all on one plate.
@waterlevelproductions482
@waterlevelproductions482 Год назад
Fun fact the oldest running steam locomotive in the US is a mason bogie.Calmet & Hecla mining company number 3 or torch lake can be found in the Henry Ford Museum in Greenfield village
@HWRR12
@HWRR12 Год назад
Hyce is not going to be happy about this one
@jameskerner7782
@jameskerner7782 Год назад
Very interesting.
@00Zy99
@00Zy99 Месяц назад
6:02-I looked at that, and my first thought was "Boston Revere Beach and Lynn". And I was RIGHT!!!!!
@willsen8908
@willsen8908 Год назад
I have two ideas for a remarkable engines episde, the 1000th Siemens vectron operated by DSB, and DSB traktor nr 57. Nr became popular after the Olsen banden på sporet (Olsen gang on track) where they used 57 to make their escape i think. 57 became very popular after the movie and is now located at the Danish railway Museum
@paulmishler402
@paulmishler402 Год назад
Would be cool to get an HOn3 model of that one day
@justinwilliam6534
@justinwilliam6534 4 месяца назад
I read somewhere that five double fairlies were used in Canada built by the Avonside engine company Bristol in the 1870’s two in Ontario a few miles from Toronto on separate railways and three in Cape Breton Island in Nova Scotia but all are just scrap and junk now.
@SteamLance
@SteamLance Месяц назад
I like how only the Welsh have managed to successfully use Double Fairlie locos, while other countries are just confused by it. If the Ffestiniog can use them for 150+ years, then how hard can it be for others to? Also on the note of rough riding, if the US think a Fairlie is bad they haven't experienced a quarry Hunslet... I have (I'm a trainee fireman at the Bala Lake Railway) and they are bouncy but still useful little locos
@zedaanagha6525
@zedaanagha6525 Год назад
very nice 👍🏼
@mow4ncry
@mow4ncry Год назад
Well the 1744 at the beginning is cool since it's at the Niles canyon railway now
@TomLuTon
@TomLuTon Год назад
Sorry dude, but the Canadian Fairlies were NOT on the Grand Trunk Western. Your photo is of Toronto & Nipissing #9 Shedden, which was destroyed by fire in 1883. The T&N started as a narrow gauge line running NE out of Toronto. In 1882 it was bought by the Midland Railway, which was leased to the Grand Trunk Railway in 1884. The Grand Trunk went bankrupt after WW1, and became part of the Canadian National Railway. The Grand Trunk Western was created in the 1920s by CNR to operate it's American lines west of Detroit. The second Fairlie was Toronto Grey & Bruce #7 Caledon, which was scrapped in 1883. The TG&B eventually became part of Canadian Pacific Three more Fairlies were owned by a coal mine in Nova Scotia, where they worked until 1902.
@Pensyfan19
@Pensyfan19 Год назад
Thank you for the correction. One of the sources I used said something about the GTW having that fairlie, but I must have misread it
@jonasbelon9379
@jonasbelon9379 Год назад
It is Mighty Mac all over again!
@jonasbelon9379
@jonasbelon9379 Год назад
Mighty would pull one way when Mac pulls the other way!
@ZeldaTheSwordsman
@ZeldaTheSwordsman Год назад
The Double Fairlies might have been more appreciated on American logging railroads & mining shortlines (which I'm betting is what the Canadian & Mexican ones were used for).
@Grantthetruthteller
@Grantthetruthteller Год назад
Would you consider the Garrett a decendant of the Fairlies or is it a totally different branch of the steam Loco family tree?
@Pensyfan19
@Pensyfan19 Год назад
Totally different branch since it doesn't have two boilers.
@thatonecaledonian812
@thatonecaledonian812 Год назад
Didn’t you say it was one continuous boiler?
@Pensyfan19
@Pensyfan19 Год назад
It was a continuous boiler but it had two different fireboxes.
@Aclr03
@Aclr03 Год назад
can you do njt 4101 next?
@MattSmith-uw2pg
@MattSmith-uw2pg Год назад
Of course hyce know that was wrong because he works on a k 37
@theoldbayrailfan
@theoldbayrailfan Год назад
Next do the NF210
@Pensyfan19
@Pensyfan19 Год назад
Thank you for the recommendation, but this series usually focuses on individual locomotives, instead of entire engine classes.
@phroogo...
@phroogo... Год назад
Are those K-37s? 0:14
@Pensyfan19
@Pensyfan19 Год назад
Yep.
@TrainBandit
@TrainBandit 2 месяца назад
Great video! You did such a great job keeping the video entertaining! Ive done videos like this before and its so easy for me to start rambling 😂 Mind if i share the video?
@Pensyfan19
@Pensyfan19 2 месяца назад
Sure! Community post would be fine, but if you want to share the link elsewhere that's fine, since the more people know about obscure engines like this the better.
@TrainBandit
@TrainBandit 2 месяца назад
@@Pensyfan19 awesome! I'll share it right now, Thanks! 😃
@Nictrain123
@Nictrain123 Год назад
Shame Fairlies didn’t take off that well in the States, but let’s face it. America is just too big and steep for these engines.
@Nictrain123
@Nictrain123 Год назад
Probably would’ve been the same story with the Garratts too. But had Britain retained and expanded the colonies, maybe they could’ve been able to make the Garratts work like they did in Africa.
@Lucius_Chiaraviglio
@Lucius_Chiaraviglio Год назад
Ferrocarril Mexicano had some standard gauge double Fairlies (very briefly mentioned and shown towards the end of the video) for a steep line (from Mexico City to Veracruz), replaced by electrics in the 1920s (with this electrification shamefully abandoned later in favor of diesels after privatization of the line). And the double Fairlies had all wheels powered, unlike standard locomotives (other than switchers) made in the US. So I don't think the rails in the US being too steep was the problem. A hint of a possible show-stopping problem is mentioned in the video: leaking steam pipes. Back then, they didn't know how to make a steam-tight flexible junction that would hold up through long service. This was also a problem on early Mallet articulated locomotives, but mitigated by the use of lower pressure steam on the front engine; by the time US locomotive manufacturers went to making single expansion locomotives with the Mallet type of articulation (no longer true Mallet locomotives), they had solved this problem.
@ZeldaTheSwordsman
@ZeldaTheSwordsman Год назад
You're way off with "too steep". The Fairlies were _made_ for steep, because they were originally developed for mountainous narrow-gauge lines in Wales that needed extra hauling power without having to double-head (and thus run two crews per train). "Big" was far more of an issue, due to limited fuel space. Minimal problem on a line with a lot of stops, _massive_ problem on lines with long stretches of nowhere. They would likely have been more appreciated on logging and mining railroads, which are shorter overall while often having really tight curves. USA railroads also had little care and patience for manufacturing & maintaining the oft-fussy articulated steam pipes.
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