Remember When Pokémon Games Were ACTUALLY GOOD? 

YOOOO FINALLY

yes please :)

Not d-riding but your original designs were lightyears ahead of mine.

Did anyone else notice at 6:36 the Super Game Boy colored screen on the Game Boy Pocket? I noticed those shenanigans!

bet

I designed a golden vulpix called Goldpix, a group of Vulpix that fell into vats of smelted gold that basically converted them into living gold. Imagine my shock when I discovered the color of a shiny vulpix.

That is clever! I was trying to design an electric monkey pokemon cause I was (and still am) a diehard fan of DBZ. It represented Goku and had two evolutions that were supposed to be ssj1 and 3.

I was about to say that i've seen Shawk in a Pokemon fangame but then remember it was Showl, eh close enought.

I made one called Cytanis (cybernetic + Titanis, a large flightless predatory bird, or "terror bird" in layman's terms). It's a fossilmon, but the recreation process went wrong and it melded with the storage PC coding to become a prehistoric cybernetic creature hybrid. Ultimately it was a combination of my two favorite mons, Dodrio and Porygon-Z while being its own thing

make this a real pokemon please

I was thinking the same thing, it's odd he felt it was unfair to compare animations of the newer games to stadium though battle revolution when the quantity of quality animations between 7 years is way higher than the stuff taking over 10+ . Mainline Pokemon games must be going through an insanely rough development cycle. They should seriously slow down, but I imagine it'd be like trying to stop an avalanche with how they try to keep every part of the media in line

Yeah that’s what I can’t agreed with him about reusing the same 3D sprite because I understand where he’s getting about the sprite at the old game reuse until a new Gen come, but their two problems the 3D animation haven’t adapt until at Scarlet and Violet (Which is 2013 to 2022) and the lie that they lie about recreating the 3D model during the Sword and Shield incident.

Another thing nobody seems to care about is if the 3DS couldn't not only have all pokémons + amie but walking and running animations too for all mons even knowing only a 0.1% would use it what is the real excuse for Switch not having this capacity? I think is truly lack of time to finish these games, GF should now make the main line more spread apart like 5 years for each, which would give them more time to polish and let the devs rest because let's be sincere these games probably are made with a lot of crunch, yes I know this will never will happen.

Not only that, but they said they needed that time - when it was literally datamined that all Pokemon were already in the game. They just made an excuse to put a poorly made paywall over everything (and the fanbase fell for it)

They were caught lying

Double also are in red/leaf.

@@wtfisgoingon535 red/leaf are considered gen 3s so yes

around 2 or 3 double battles iirc lol

2 or 3 required double battles*

My least favourite thing about Emerald is how many double battles there are. It's ridiculous.

Is it though? The thing move like it on treadmills.

Yeah legends arceus is peak, I wish they based all games off it

(Gameplay)

Arceus is parallel to gen 9, they didn't make it worse, they just didn't make it the same way, Arceus did have a bunch of better decisions, unfortunately most will likely never see mainline because their design effects competitive, if they'd been a bit smarter with Gen 9 and not gone with Terastals to support raid style multiplayer I think these games would probably be everything people wanted though much less engaging but that is always their style... Go for the hat trick nobody asked for.

peak is too much, its one of the best but coleseum is way way way better

What if she _starts_ with her ace? Always wondered why people never use their strongest Pokemon first. 💀 _(exceptions like Bugsy notwithstanding)_

It would have been so cool if Geeta's 2nd to last mon was a suicide Trick Room setter, and then her ace is a full Supreme Overlord boosted menace in Trick Room that makes nuzlockers regret their decisions.

@@robertlupa8273 God forbid it gets taken out, then what? If it was your strongest, the rest of your team doesn't compare

King gambit would work as her ace too ..they both have big hair and it's a region exclusive

​@@robertlupa8273people are thinking for these npcs as if they're supposed to be gamers and not real people. No one comes out swinging with their best moves/assets/whatever in real life, so why would pokemon trainers that aren't beating a game, but actually "living a life" put their trump card at the forefront?

Absolutely. We've gone from maybe 1 starter per generation, sometimes 2, starting out as a bipedal animal, to at least 2 of the starters starting out as a quadruped animal and ending up as a person in spandex and a mask.

Sometimes, I want my dinosaur to stay a dinosaur. Not become more r34 bait.

Pokemon HAS ALWAYS created bipedal human like mons for starter. Gen 1: Blastoise Gen 2: Feraligatr. Typhlosion also walks on two legs but it looks less as a furry so I will skip this. Gen 3: Sceptile, and Blaziken Gen 4: Infernape and Empoleon Gen 5: Pignite Gen 6: Greninja and Delphox. People get bored of Fire + Fighting alllll the times so here is a Psychic type. Gen 7: Decidueye and Inceneroar. It's funny that Primarina is designed to be a furry bait but nobody care about it. Gen 8 (start of the furry debate): you know the rest. The furry debate is just hilarious to me because Pokemon has always been a furry bait for a long time. People just got angry because Gen 7 and 8 tried so hard with the 'Animal + Human Job' design (Decidueye is an archer owl, and inceneroar is a westler cat) and that went ugly af. Scorbunny line is ok, but for the other 2 pokemons, their evolution line just look worse with each evolution. And so, instead of blaming for the drop of art quality, people blame for the furry bait. Btw, the real furry bait is Eevee and Lucario. It has never been the starter, except for Inceneroar. Just go to e621 and see.

That’s actually partly the reason why The Fuecoco line was so popular

@@winslycan1309 Blastoise started out bipedal Feraligatr started out bipedal. For gen 2 you're much better referencing Typhlosion Sceptile and Blaziken started out bipedal (curiously, Mudkip evolves into a bipedal Marshstomp and then goes back on four legs with Swampert) Infernape and Empoleon started out bipedal For half the history of the franchise they've been rather consistent. As the comment stated above, people aren't just tired of bipedal mons. Those are mostly fine. The problem is the trend of taking clearly animalistic four legged starters and turning them into a human fursuit. It's a "recent" complaint because people now recognize it as a trend instead of "that one odd starter for this generation".

Sun and moon: are we a joke to you?

They probably did that to save room for the game.

@@PteranoLiv At least Sun and Moon world had a great art direction during the whole game, unlike the lack of everything in Scarlet and Violet

I just go a 3DS online and currently playing Pokemon X (this is my first time playing something beyong Gen5). And jesus the game feels empty compared to the previous 5 gens. I mean Black and White felt like a real engaging adventure. Emerald felt so vast and rich. Platinum deep and very entertaining. Firered was extremely fun. But this gen 6 things feels weaker compared to all of that.

@@louayker4249 sun and moon do a much better job at that

Yup. They literally made Let's Go Pikachu and Eevee just to see what's the bare minimum they could get away with on modern consoles charging twice the price for these games as the handhelds. When those trash empty games sold well, it gave them the greenlight to strip out everything from Sword and Shield, making them as empty and worthless of games as they are today and proving to Nintendo and Game Freak that Pokemon fans will buy ANY garbage games they make.

@@MarvinPowell1 and ironically or unironically let's go Pikachu and eevee are probably the most polished first party Pokémon games from game freak that exist on the switch Because after that 😅 everything else is a buggy mess

​@@MarvinPowell1 Let's Go are the definitive gen 1 experience no matter how salty your ilk get.

@@tlst94 probably much better then they have but it's honestly abit too broad to really guess for sure

The concept is great, the adventure was great but they expanded without developing greater depth. And the fans outgrew the games too.

Most of the issues we are facing now have not existed until Sun and Moon, and even the issues we did have were on a tiny scale compared to what they are now.

The reason they saw a lot of issues in 3d pokemon is because there are already more polished 3d games to compare to so the standards are high

Pretty much. Every game has been something of a technical kludge to the point that the special flavor of development hell for some of them is a fairly open secret. Red and Green requiring a Blue and then Yellow version to make the game playable and a bit more polished respectively, Gold and Silver requiring some sort of programming wizardry to cram Kanto back into the cartridge and still getting Crystal to round out the plot because they might've had a lackluster first showing because of the battle system tweaks to split the Special stat. Ruby Sapphire goes and throws out nearly the whole thing because they wanted a more dynamic system to keep track of a pokemon's traits and attributes, so suddenly there's no more (visible) day/night cycle - at all in the case of FR/LG. And they still used the R/G remakes to test out some things they iterated on for Emerald, such as instruments for the new area's content. But the benefit of this more complex pokemon structure comes with the compromise of stuff like an item database whose basic framework is preserved all the way through to the current games despite forward held item transfer stopping only one console generation later. Then Generation 4 comes along with a 3D map that is secretly glitched beyond belief and a host of other potentially exploitable mechanics issues that make it past QA, not all of which are patched out of the engine for HG/SS and Platinum. And even with Black/White they learned they could push it a little further for B2/W2 and apply the animation techniques they'd used for the pokemon to the enemy trainer sprites. To say nothing of the new set pieces. And that train keeps on rolling with stuff like the current system of the pokemon side of the database not initially being able to account for regional forms or how the 3DS era didn't make the most of its patch capability to allow pokemon featured in later releases to be usable in older games from the same generation (OR/AS megas in X/Y, US/UM specific pokemon in Sun/Moon).

​@@grimms-vi1874 yeah, i'm very tired of people comparing generations like the older ones were perfect.

Soooo... you're basically paraphrasing one of the main points of the video your comment is under?

The city and potential is there, but they needed to take time to make the places more interactive before release

@@Cornin33 Interaction is the key word here IMO. Like, it cant take that much development time to add some NPCs that -trade with you -give you some niche items -have a little quest like the Big Buizel guy in Arceus At some point I couldnt be arsed to talk to any more NPCs because I already KNEW there was nothing to get from it

@@IplayTeemoasaWard That’s what I’m saying. It’s taking the time to add in those NPC’s you can do stuff with would help the game instead of pushing for an early release

I get why they do that - it's extra dev time for stuff most people won't bother with. But at the same time, it's also what makes the games feel "lived in". I remember in Gen 1 there were still houses you couldn't go in, but they made it a bit more obvious and they also didn't make up the majority of them. But having a text bubble just pop up as you pass by someone and "overhear" them isn't nearly the same as actually stopping to interact.

@@Cornin33 Unfortunately it's all due to the interconnected multimedia empire, with the anime and toys being released alongside the games. They should do what they did back in the late 90's and make some anime original content to fill the gap before the next games (like Orange Islands) and introduce new Pokemon through updates over longer periods of time rather than relying entirely on a new generation of games each time.

I don't think gamefreak will ever make a Pokemon game fulfilling its full potential by the simple fact that Pokemon games sell very well. The only way we could get a really good Pokemon game is being made by anther developer, and we know that's not gonna happen.

@@sms1960able that’s another terrible thing about this situation. They can keep getting away with half assing their games over and over because it works no matter what. So we’ll most likely be stuck with a bad game releasing every time.

@@sms1960able I also feel like another key factor is that they keep releasing games every year, I feel as if that’s another heavy hitter in terms of diminishing quality.

It’s a shame because I thought Arceus was SUCH a breath of fresh air. And then they immediately went back to the old, stale formula.

Putting the money and willingness issues aside, the developers just stick to the same formula which is far from perfect. The pokemon games have never decided if they are about adventure, strategic battles, collecting monsters or if they want to tell a story. They do a mix of both and never realize any one of those. It seems like the new games try leaning into the adventure part more, with an actual open world, but it still has ways to go.

Nah wrd like it’s kinda hard to play games when 80% of the time your getting carried through everything

@@koroallie5583 yeah I don't understand. What's the point of a Pokémon team, and training them, if it doesnt matter at all which Pokémons youre using?

@@TIMxisxHERE fr like I miss when it was actual coolness not getting busted pokemon 1st thing In the game

Yeah the newest games had this issue big time. I bought it when they came out and spent like 90 minutes mostly in text menus about the fundamentals of the game. Turned it off and haven't turned it back on since. Shit's garbage.

The hard mode romhacks go hard. It's like the mechanics actually start to have depth instead of the gameplay just being weakness/resistence knowledge check, potion & revive spam.

The only one I can see maybe starting to steal some sales is SMT but the franchise is still decently niche so I don’t see it making a big impact for a while

​@@brub1738 SMTV was a GOD TIER GAME. And is miles on miles better then all new pokemon games. Man i wish SMT was more popular so it could kick pokemon from the top.

TEMTEM UP BABYYYYYYYY

@@98maplestory I haven’t gotten around to it yet but as someone who is playing through nocturne (which has became one of my favorite games of all time) I already know V is gonna be a straight banger

@@98maplestoryI want it too, it’s soooo much better

thing is, at least the 3 dragonites were strong

@@xdrayy7378 also dont forget that the franchise was new and there werent many dragon type pokemon at the time

​@@xdrayy7378 not if u brought ice types lool And not only that that, would Geeta be less worse if she had a reason for her Pokémon choices like Lance did with his dragonite?

​@@ardy6241 He at least should've brought Kingdra, a brand new Dragon Type from Johto, that way his team would have more variety.

@@genarftheunfuni5227 true, i think that sadly they were very adamant about making kingdra remembered as Claire iconic pokemon and that effected the variety of lance team. Or at least that how i see it

How old are you ?

I’d take sprites over shittily animated 3D models

Yea idk why the guy talking was saying they are ``lazily made``, like who cares when they look awesome.

For the most part, they looked great. I don’t think it was an example of “corner-cutting” as much as it was a simple way to save space and deal with hardware limitations. There’s a huge difference between that and, say, having a 2 meter render distance in a 3D game, or including jumpy 2-frame animations for shadows of moving objects. The older games weren’t exactly innovative, but at least they functioned well (aside from gen 1 lmao) and passed the eye test

Dude I’m sorry but it looks bad most of the time. We’re talking OG red & green bad occasionally. Saying 3d models look bad and excusing gen 5 sprites is disingenuous.

That's certainly a take

As far as mainline is concerned, all these incentives you listed don't play in favor of the designs, it only makes it easier for them to cut corners with their inhuman release schedule. In my opinion, the only Pokémon games that pulled off 3d well were Stadium and Arceus. In all others, it just feels like it's there because that's what games are supposed to do these days. Even though Pokémon BW pulled off an amazing mix of 2d and 3d aesthetics for example.

​@@plebmcpleb5761 they don't necessarily play in the design's favor on paper, but it hasn't lead to a drastically worse series of designs imo. In 5 years, we're going to collectively look back on Paldea's mons more fondly than we do now.

​@Damien Thonk I'm starting to wonder if that will be true, since I don't see people feeling the same way about Gen 6 as they do Gen 5. Maybe the people who are kids rn playing them will, but then that's their nostalgia. And then how much worse would the games be to where we'd look back fondly at this?

And some Pokemon were forever ruined if their 3D models didn't do them justice (Looking at you, Typhlosion)

​​@@kinka9883 That is not as easy as saying peopole don't look back with love at Gen 6 as they do with Gen 5 because the games are worst overall. The fact is than the people praiseing Gen 5 today are not the same who hated it when it realised, those were the OG fans who had been there since Gen 5 who grew up and where simply not interested in the games anymore because they outgrow them, and that is just how life works. Many of those people than just moved on with their life so when the people who grew up with those games who might have started with RSE or DPP became adults and started to speek up for their favorite genetation(s). With the old fans gone and the new ones praseing the middle generations the golden standard shifted to the latter ones and so the new games became the new hot thing to hate (even if there might be some legitimate complains a good chunk of the hate might just be just the fact than it isn't the Pokemon you grew up with anymore). The people who grew up with Gen 6-7-8 games are like me, are just now entering adulthood and only now we have a chance to make our voices (and nostalgia) be heared. The only problem is than now than Pokemon rants have become a very easy path to succes it's unlikely than we'll get the same space as our predecessors did. For many peopole new pokemon "Don't look Pokemon" but in actuality new Pokemon don't look like their idea of Pokemon, and fhat is fine . For the Pokemonest Pokemons are the Gen 7 ones they are the one with who I grew up with but many can't stand them and saying than them along with the other newer Pokemons are proof than Pokemon desaings have become bad. But that is thier bias speaking, personaly I despise a good 90% of the Gen 5 Pokedex I can't stand them, I tollerate and handfull and actualy like very few of them. That is the reason why I could never get in to the Gen 5 games as many peopole did when I'm forced to stare at Pokemon I find Ugly every frame. But I can regognize than it 's kust my bias speaking, some Pokemons are just not my coup of tea, others have interesting concpets but I find them poorply executed, and there are a few I actualy like, but I know than just because I don't like them dosen't meen than I can't appreciate or regonize than they might hold value fir some else. Very recently in facy peopole started to actualy look back on Gen 6 such as CandyEevee and there will be most definatly peopole who will donir for every genration. When the time comes.

That’s when it died for me too. I’d rather replay gen 2-3 yearly

eww a genwunner

you have all that in gen5 a serious atmosphere and good sprites who 2d and yet alive the movements gives the pokemons more personality. heck there is even a very dark sidequest where a girl got killed by darkrai in one of the most painfull ways: bein trapped in your worst nightmares for ever

Sun/Moon were the last mainline games that felt like there was any effort put in and even those games have severe issues

Same here, I enjoyed Sun/Moon as well and Shield wasn't bad neither but that's where I stopped as far as the mainline games go. Oh yeah, and Pokemon Lets go Eevee / Pikachu is visually stunning!

@@Ra18To yes, exactly. That art style in Lets Go Pikachu/Eevee is gorgeous to look at, followed by Legend of Arceus.

@@Ra18To oh, right…….right. Wow, typo. Let me clarify, gameplay and everything else good, graphics, no. Yeah still does that whole buffering bug thing which I shouldn't be surprised that they didn't fix.

The irony here is that OLM has started making some really elaborate projects lately and the shorts posted on the Pokémon youtube channels are appealing as hell.

Idk where you got that from cuz when gen1 pokemon got first designed, game freak had no idea that pokemon would have so much success and anime adaptation

​@@Dingosig I also can't find this topic but I do remember another similiar one when people used to complain about gen 2 pokemon looking too "babyish", so since gen 3 GF started to make pokemon look more cooler than cuter which is the case with Groudon

Yea kinda seems like they only care about their young players I really wish we could get a Pokémon that’s even a little difficult but we’re stuck doing challenges to make the game semi difficult

Yeah I was kinda bothered he seemingly just ignored all of this. There's tons of info out there that explains why fans are angry, so I don't get why he's riding the "but they were always bad" angle so hard

@@KrispyKrabby That’s the point, like I always said he’ll ignore minor details to make him sound like he’s in the right but in actuality he was wrong. I almost fell for his tricks but when I rewatched the video I realized so many things wrong about what he said. But sadly in most of the comments section fell for his tricks

Tbf, scarlet and violet is one of the best written stories I’ve personally experienced in the Pokémon franchise and I’ve been around since gen 1. Gen 3 will always be my favourite. Could it be better? Sure, but I think you are asking to much for a game that is essentially marketed for children and families. SV’s downfall lies in the fact that it is poorly optimised for the switch. My OLED is constantly dropping frames in cities etc. mounts were a great introduction though. Open world gameplay was a great option experiment. Though I really wish that they would make trainer battles scale to your parties average level to make them a little more challenging and provide a bigger sense of freedom. This also makes sense because you can now level a whole party at the same time compared to earlier days when it was one at a time or two with exp share. Having fixed set levels on trainers suited the older generations because they were linear. If Pokémon wants to go open world they need to leave the linear approach behind and make it all choice based. SV has been a breath of fresh air for the series if you can see past it’s optimisation issues.

​@@positivea9111 "fell for his tricks" man we really can't have an opinion anymore💀, pokemon really always was "pretty good" at it's absolute peak and the trend of always hating the new stuff and then looking at it fondly is a real thing. Pokemon is just really good at using nostalgia to it's advantage

@@galvsparks6295 It wasn’t an opinion it was him bending the fact to make him sound like he’s in the right, if you don’t get what I’m trying to said what I’m saying is, in the video he keep on hiding facts that will contradict his argument (on purpose or on accident). If you don’t believe then I can give you examples if you wanted.

Downgrades of XY I would say 😂

Honestly it seriously started to go downhill after ORAS or maybe Ultra Sun/Moon for me, I liked gen 7 for what it introduced, it was different that it didn't use gyms anymore, but I'm also aware that could given it some problems. I loved Ash-Greninja in those games and I wish he existed in XY/ORAS. I played Shield and it honestly just felt so average to me, sure I liked some of the mons but none of them were interesting to me, I got into the franchise at gen 5, I loved the mons that were introduced in those games and I also adored the sequels more than the previous. Each Pokemon I was just in awe of and I loved that gen, gen 6 gave me even more love with mega evolutions, and it was nice seeing new ones added for ORAS, idk if they did for gen 7 tho honestly. It's such a shame that they created a mechanic like this just to throw it away, I adored that mechanic and still do, I wish it never went away. I tried out Dynamix feature in Shield but it didn't feel impressive, it felt like a wannabe mega evolution and they may as well have just kept that in future games honestly, same with Z Moves

I don't like the games because the new ones are ass

True, and even worse is, that the new pokemon games defended by saying "look, the old games were bad/had issues aswell!" They alway tell you why old games are bad and not why the new games are good. And most people could be okay with the graphical issues of these games, but the problem is that they are lack of content aswell. If Paldea would be interesting, dungeons, caves and secrets to explore, solving puzzles, hunt down cryptic legendaries or special pokemon like rotom/spiritomb i would love these games. But they are bad in gameplay and performance, and thats sucks.

​@@SaixileinWell, the 4 minor legendaries do have the stake thing you need to do in order to catch them.

@@FectoElfilin I didnt obtained them at all. I lost my interest after clearing elite 4 - came back now for some CP Battles, played the DLC now and will hunting for them for sure soon. But as far as i know u just collect all these black things, go the a location and fight/catch the pokemon... isnt that much entertaining. I miss something like Regi Puzzles, Turnback Cave, Snowpoint Temple or even Giant Chasm.

@niklasstg6957 this is the first time I'm hearing about this

Yea, the gamecube games have the camera follow the pokemons head to create a sense of intensity and weight to the movements as well

I love the squash and stretch the old 3D Pokemon games used to make them animate more expressively. Medicham's fist extends and becomes bigger on impact, like a cartoon! It's great. It sometimes feels as if it was at some point decided that Pokemon's designs needed to be streamlined across ALL its media. In Gen1 and 2, when Sugimori's water color artworks still got used across Pokemon's print products, like guides and the manuals, you could really see how some mons looked *very* different depending on the artwork. It's in the sprite work too. I think that free form approach is what enabled them to really go wild with the 3D models at the time and they kept doing it into Gen3. It feels as if, at some point, it was decided a cleanup was necessary. It makes sense even, because I'd imagine it's kind of hard to create merchandise when the original designs aren't clearly defined. All conjecture of course, based on my own experiences with character design.

@@justsomejojo I'd say each gen has their own feel. I have to say that I kind of like the more abstract mons in the really early gens, but you do get the occasional Toxtricity to scratch that itch.

i think oras should be on that amazing list

Gen 6 and 7 are so tedious to get through for me. I love Ora’s could have been more difficult and while I like gen 9 it’s definitely the most ugly game. Gen 3 4 5 are the best overall, but gen 8 has to be the worst by shear feeling of making my want to kill myself getting through it.

Facts.

Why should it? Money talks and some gamers will consoome anything.

Because 3 yearly games make triple the money of one three-year title

Become some companies arent as staple and successful as Nintendo. It takes a lot of time and sacrifice before a game company starts taking actual profits, much like with every business

Pokemon has too many cogs that all have to move at the same time. Even if The Pokemon Company was fine about keeping the new games in the oven a little longer, they wouldn't be fine with having merch, the anime, and card game all stopped as well.

It's because of brand recognition & merchandise sales which vastly outnumbered the average game profits.

Yeah, not gonna lie, part of me was hoping Gen 9 would expand upon what Arceus did. Arceus was certainly tricky to get used to at first, but after a while, I felt at home.

Yeah I got to about the 7th gym and I put the game down but still wanted to play Pokémon. So I just fired up Pokémon Firered and am now about 40 hours in. I’m sad that the old games are just so much better. I still wish the Pokémon games were sprite based as Gamefreak actually knows how to make those games.

Loved Legends Arceus... And I was so Happy to See Pokemon evolving in a positive direction. And then Scarlet and Violet happened... Very sad. I also Play Rom Hacks. The Rom Hacks by drayano are awesome.. but my favourites so far are Pokemon unbound and Pokemon inclement Emerald.

@@MIBxSpartan Maybe, but I can't help but enjoy the freedom you get in some of these new gens. Gen 9 ain't great by any metric, but I don't know. There's just something oddly satisfying about having the option to catch a fully evolved level 65 Garchomp before your first gym battle. Granted. It won't fully obey you (but it will every other three turns, seemingly) until you reach a certain amount of badges, but.... it's just the little things in life. That. And I've been watching a fuck ton of Overlord lately, so that might have influenced me in some fashion, but still. Even without that, you've never been granted this much freedom before in a Pokemon game. It ain't great, but I can't totally say it was all a bad time for me.

Nah 9/10 it actually made me want to get all the Pokémon

Didn't interact with it much tbh so I don't have very strong memories of it. Emerald's Battle Frontier tho sucked up many-a-100s of hours of my adolescent life

Don’t wanna be a downer but what they did to it in BDSP was unforgivable

@@ochuspin there is no bdsp in ba sing se

@@ochuspin *BDSP was unforgivable Game Freak could make a stellar mainline Pokémon game for the modern gen, and I'd still never touch it out of how much figurative pain that demake/demaster/devolution caused me.

an amazing video where the first half is a glorified wikipedia article and is irrelevant to the title question

this didnt change the gameplay though.Its has always been use supereffective move to beat the boss simulator

Emerald is overall a worse way to play Gen 3 tho by just adding filler to the game and making the climaxes worse and the infamous water routes much worse than they are in RS...

@@V-Jes It's the best way actually, by making the game less empty and having an actual post game. Water routes are pretty much the same.

@blitzstrk0 filler is not a good way to make a game "less empty", while water routes are WAY worse in Emerald because you have to travel lot more, something that isn't an issue in any other version of Gen 3...

@@V-Jes "filler" being whatever I supposed you didn't like. Felt the same to me and had battle frontier, quit whining.

The video mentions in depth about profit and corporate motive. He spoke in japanese playing the company execs to drive home those points lol!

Theyve already had a few sonic 06 type releases just in the last year tbh

@@epicness877 I'd question if you've played Sonic 06 then lol. Yeah there have been a lot of sloppy bugs and really low production values in the recent games but nothing at that level of being mechanically broken, nothing that has destroyed the series' reputation. I'd say the games have really low production value and innovation for the amount of money they bring in but that's not the same as mechanically failing to work. Like if the battle system was worse than Gen1 broken it would be.

@@shasan2393 Yeah I know but not a lot of content creators other than Foxcade's video on this don't seem to recognise this is a deeper systemic issue, industry wide and capitalist in nature. Although some studios clearly care more about quality control than others.

@@DmitriPolkovnik nah, i have played 06. Considering you could inexplicably fall out bounds in scarlett and violet and half of brilliant diamond and shining pearl being released in an early update, i dont think its the furthest stretch

I believe he thought he was on to something by saying people who grew up with the series are old and outgrowing the games - but the same "old people" were impressed with legends of arceus not even a whole year ago.

While I agree with a good amount of what you said, acting like Sw/Sh and S/V are anywhere near the same is just wrong. If S/V were linear and also had these issues then maybe, but because they are not the parameters are a little different. Things were lost, but other things were gained and it's very subjective how valuable those things are from person to person. When it comes to pokemon in general, people love or hate every gen often for different reasons. This is no different, but with some technical jank thrown in. What I care most about are good battles, pokemon variety, pacing, and story. S/V succeeds in all of these departments, especially pacing. It cut all of the fat of older games to get right to the good stuff. People describe it being a similar feeling to a rom hack and I agree. While I don't value exploration as much, it is strong in this aspect as well where discovering and engaging with pokemon in various areas is always rewarding. Just the first area alone blows most pokemon games out the water. It's very clear that S/V had the most effort put into it since B2/W2 and I think that's something most people can acknowledge. With that being said, there is the technical state of the game. Not only is it obviously not the most stable, but there were several design compromises to the core game as well to attempt to stabilize it (building interiors, town design, area landmarks as the most obvious). This is the only aspect that objectively you could say it falls short on, but considering everything else the game does it really depends. Regardless, plenty of people have found it to be one of the more enjoyable experiences for a reason. It has actual bones to stand on. You can actually see where the game can easily improve unlike a lot of other games. If it weren't for the technical issues and compromises it would easily be a top 3 pokemon game.

@@FlameHricane Oh absolutely! I don't think I was very clear in my original comment. I think Scarlet and Violet are great games, with terrible coding. Aside from the empty towns and copypasted Team Star areas, the region of Paldea is sprawling and very fun to traverse! I do think Scarlet and Violet are diamonds in the rough for sure. It has a lot of heart yes, but just not enough soul.

@@cynthiasoolihua2410 Yea that about sums it up. If it just had more time in the oven then it would've been fantastic. What we got though was still good despite that. I just get a little frustrated when people talk about the game like it's literal shovelware or how it's bad because it's not like this other pokemon game without a proper fair analysis of all their details.

Youre quote at the end is god damn true

I freaking lost it on that one lol

Ah yes, the condensing man with the nerd emojis made an amazing video. I don't really have nostalgia bias as I'm not really nostalgic for the series beyond Black and maybe Ultra Moon. I just think the games sucked after a point. I say it was after Ultra Moon, reusing old ideas and poorly executing new ones.

Nah, he makes a lot of disingenuous comparisons to force his narrative, like comparing reusing sprites from a 1 yo game that runs on the same console to reusing 12 yo models from a handheld. And btw none of those is a problem, there's nothing wrong with reusing something that looks good, like the attack animations from Stadium. I could spend like an hour listing all the times he was disingenuous but it would be a waste of time

@@jay9661 I agree with you.

@@inciniumz4671 scarlet and violet were the most fun I ever had playing a Pokémon game. Honestly after that game I don’t think I’ll ever be able to go back to an old Pokémon game.

@@colecronin7660 Suit yourself

since the 2 games were in development at the same time I don't think they could really borrow ideas from each other

They are separate.. most likely going to be another legends game eventually

Legends isnt a main series game though, comparing them makes little sense. Its also had the worst battling i've seen in a pokemon game.

Most of the things SV walked back are necessary for the competitive side of things unfortunately. I personally couldn't give less of a shit about multiplayer Pokémon, but it is a thing a significant part of the fanbase plays these games for.

Pokemon has been doing this since at least gen 2 into 3. For every good idea and evolution there's multiple major ideas from past games dropped because Gamefreak cannot develop competently. People always mention the "step forward" and forget that one step forward and five steps backwards is a net reverse.

To be fair, I think pretty much every future champion is and will be compared to Cynthia because she's beloved, not purely bc of the remakes.

She was like the second champion I ever fought in a Pokemon game (I got Platinum). She's actually legitimately hard, though its not because Gamefreak made her use any unique mechanics. Her Pokemon are literally just competitively viable and you're stuck with the Pokemon that you've been using the entire time with subpar natures, EVS, and IVS.

@@ionlydrinkjesusmilk7256 Cynthia was decently high level with OU staples on her team that made her able to actually sweep your team if you were unprepared. You'd need to activey play bad to lose to modern champs because they have dogshit Pokemon. Other than Diantha, who had a goated team entirely overshadowed by the fact you arrived at it overleved as shit due to XY's fucked exp curve.

@@Music-qb2wm I completely agree. I wasn't sure what OP was on when they commented, so I tried to explain that the remakes really don't have much to do with Cynthia's status as, probably, the fan favorite champion. She's a genuine threat, a well put-together challenge, and a fitting conclusion to the best gen

I remember seeing mega-evolution and thinking it was the coolest thing ever, but when I watched the sun and moon anime I was screaming at the screen whenever ash was about to lose, saying, “JUST USE MEGA-EVOLUTION!”

@@bennetmcgravey-vanlauwe9514 I remember seeing mega-evolution and thinking "...So pokemon can Digivolve now?"

I still don't know why megas didn't become a permanent thing.

@@valence7 Because it’s cheaper to have a billion one-off gimmicks than to develop one.

@@valence7 Because they were kinda annoying in Gen 6 online ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-uxCdbxQtIEg.html.

Typhlosion?

"and then betray you by becoming furries." made me laugh a lot harder than it should've

​@@greg5892 Typhlosion rears up in battle but when it's attacking, still gets down and runs on all fours. If you look at it in other pokemon media as well it's often depicted battling as a quadruped. There's nothing wrong with bipedal pokemon as long as they still look like animals. Typhlosion is a chunky badger with animalistic design. Incineroar looks like a man with a tiger mask and tail.

'and then betray you by becoming furries' I find it funny how serious people take that. Like, i get being dissapointed, dont worry. But some people are so pressed by then being furries, you'd think they're furries in denial.

@@Sammy_The_Umbreon Wow i really hate nazis "He hates nazis so much youd think hes a nazi in denial"

There is a skip cutscene toggle in the settings.

Get going , to where? Like the next boxed in linear route everyone else have exactly played through?? Yes of course, Scarlet/Violet aren't Perfect but the 'sacrifices' of some of the older game comforts were made for the greater good of Free-roaming in a proper Open World. And Sword & Shield, are you kidding?? Imagine running about in your 'dress of Glory' - and then you run into a Lv40 poke you *cannot catch because you haven't defeated Nessa yet.* 😂 Lol, poor!!

Bruh, every pokemon game have lengthy intro in the beginning. Tf you yappin?

@@netweed09 There was no excuse to remove building interiors from SV, outside of pure laziness. Just like in SwSh, buildings would have been instanced locations that are loaded in separate from the overworld, just like the gyms and dungeons are. Also, did you forget Legends Arceus existed, and managed to pull it off with no trouble? They didn't make sacrifices for the open world. Pokemon has always been open world to some degree. They sacrificed the world itself to give you a completely fucking dead terrain mesh with some props to suggest that the game might feel alive if you squint and hold the switch six feet away from your face. Other companies can meet these deadlines. The problem isn't just the time constraint, it's a complete lack of competence. Game Freak are just shitcoders, that's all. I would trust Sonic Team to make a better pokemon game.

@@LobotomyTC Hence me saying 'SV are not Perfect'. Yes, I have Legends Arceus which kickstarted the whole 'Coming of age' for Gamefreak in terms of Quality sweeping 3D Adventures (not half-baked laziness of Lets Go and the plain terrible BDSP) and even have videos of it on my channel. So a bit naive of you to think you're trying to teach me something here. Anyways, however lets also not go pretending Legends Arceus is this AAA Perfect game either: have _you forgotten_ there's barely 2 settlements in the game?? Thats just pathetic! And honestly, I think old Jubilife is very boring: such a plain old village barely interesting. And the zonal travel having to return to Jubilife _every time_ to want to cross areas is extremely annoying. The thing I hate most is when games create the _illusion_ of a seamless World. Just can the b$ laziness and give Us the full, true Open World Scarlet & Violet did! There's a reason SV sold 25 million and Legends Arceus barely over 15 million (which is still Good however.)

The Machop line are weird apelike creatures that were given belts by humans. Meowscrada is literally a furry.

Wait a second....I think I know the channel name.....it's "Gireum Red"!

Or, the man with a red gas canister for a head.

On top of that with Gamefreak refusing to expand their company and hire more artists.

@@steffimaier7297 Isn't "Small teams are better" a literal quote? They're still so obviously stuck in the 3ds era it's not even funny.

They don't have time for that. Time to halfass the next game with impossible deadlines

@Tomy_Lightning true and yet sprigatito line is still the most popular starter

I thought it was the Fuecoco line?

How are they less popular than sprigatito? Oh right WEED CAT

@@sammyhorace7523most of its popularity comes from furries. He said people, not degenerates.

@@Shizkeb wait when did say that and also what does that mean

gen 6 was still excellent tho and looked really good for the 3ds. the problem is that they shifted from a handheld to console without actually making a significantly more powerful or better looking game to match

@@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868 yeah I agree. Despite some Pokémon loosing a bit of personality in the transition, it was super cool seeing all the Pokémon in 3D during Gen’s 6 & 7. They just needed a major upgrade in texture and animations for when they made their way to the big screen.

@@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868 yeah fs Im not a huge fan of gen 6 but Im not gonna hate on it because even if the flaws were there it was a 3ds game not a home console game

??? Gen 5 has the worst sprites in the entire series. Spastic jumpy sprites. Gen 5 sucks so bad.

@@matthewmammothswine4395 crazy that those static jumpy sprites look 10x better than anything else creatures has shit out

It’s actually ironic since Pokemon were standing still in Gen 2-4. It all comes down to the fact that when you are working with 2D, it’s abstract and a lot of your brain is doing the imagining of what the Pokemon are doing. You can’t do that with 3D with out it looking trash. That’s why the Stadium Games had such expressive animations. Also, the colors of the 3D Pokemon are desaturated too. They did not need to do this at all. That was just a bad artistic choice if you ask me.

@@xraiderblack1850 I’d kill for a pokemon game with either Stadium animations or Gen 5 moving sprites . They were perfection .

Nintendo’s Pokemon have the same problem with Bungie’s Destiny franchise, no competition and competitive drive equates to a pile of cut cornered recycled repetitive cash grabbing hot garbage of a mess

@@mcjoey2878 I want to see another 2D game but at the same time I don't want it to have pixelly sprites like old gens though, because 2D games have evolved over the years, there are games like Cuphead out there

​@@xraiderblack1850I believe it comes a lot with presentation and design. Old pokemon also had trash designs but many were threatening or at least appeared to be monsters. Newer designs are just too comfortable for the eyes, basing themselves on many concepts that take away any feeling of being an intelligent but wild animal. Take for example starters on the last 2 gens, five are just humans with funny faces/formats.

Yeah, even the ones who make the digimon games want to make a game with all the digimon in it, but they don't get anywhere near the budget to do so, but they do say they have the time. I think the main problem pokemon has is they don't have the time to make the games the way they want to anymore, they just have to chuck it out because nintendo knows people will buy it. The problem is, they're facing what I like to call Sonic syndrome. Before Sonic adventure, sonic games were great, simple, much like the 2d pokemon games, there were some misses sure, mainly with the side games, much like pokemon actually, but once Sonic went 3D, things went downhill. The games just got worse and worse, with the ever increasing rare gem, but people kept buying them up, just like pokemon now. And, just like pokemon, they didn't have time to finish the games properly. Now, because pokemon is so established, it'll take longer, maybe 2 or 3 main line games, but eventually, they WILL have a pokemon equivalent to the legendarily infamous Sonic '06. The fact S&V wasn't that with all the glitching that, tbh, would make '06 blush with jealously IS a straight up miracle, but it WILL happen. The question is, will nintendo learn, or will they let pokemon die?

​@@hyper_tex9834 one problem with your statement, and it's the last sentence. As mentioned in the video, pokemon WONT die. Fans will continue to buy the games no matter what state they're released in, and I can say personally after going back through older games myself, I was convinced to buy a copy of Pokemon Scarlet to try out a newer pokemon game. I agree with your statement, it was very glitchy and messy but they're definitely worse possible outcomes for a pokemon game. I'm certain that ganefreak can do worse, and I'm sure it'll go that way if people keep buying the games like I did. And with the stupid 3 year schedule they limit themselves too, with a 5 year remake schedule in-between, the games are only gonna go down in quality as employees are stretched thin with time

@@hyper_tex9834 No they don't as there are over 1400 Digimons around so nobody wants to model or try to find a way to include them all in a game that makes it feel right so the devs always just rely on popular Digimons from the anime with some extras thrown into the mix, also Pokemon quality has always been up and down so pretending it's just been "great and simple" in any era is a straight up lie and proof you are talking more from nostalgia than anything else...

Gotta catch -'em all- some of 'em.

I agree with you that they probably could've and should've coded all pokemon into swords n shield. I think however that the dex cut was bound to happen at some point. Right now we're roughly at 1000 pokemon and it doesn't look likes it's going to stop. It's hard to imagine a pokemon game with like 1.3k pokemon in a few years, with every single ones being coded in. Ngl I was disappointed when I couldn't get some of my favorite pokemon on sword n shield but the biggest issue I had with the dex cut wasn't really the dex cut itself but their reason for doing so, which weren't valid at the time

I also want to know :/

Ever figure that out?

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-FuMHCJ_fWJg.html Found it :D

Area Zero - Pokémon Scarlet and Violet OST inspired by Chrono Trigger - Corridors of Time

so what you're saying is " I hate the bad pokemon designs! except the ones from the games i liked those bad designs are fine :)"

@@cortexlite6082 I love Gen 5, and hate Emboar, same thing for Incineroar. So no, you're wrong.

I'm 25...

Truly the last traditional pokemon game. After that they started looking like digimon. Delphox and the other starters can easily be pass as digimon.

Yeah I don't see anyone say Gen1's designs were perfect, what they have is consistency, and that consistency declined to where the good designs are now the exception and the weird AF designs seem to be the norm. Apparently this counts as crying and complaining.. but hey.

Geeta's Veluza is also a pretty bad pick too. And the water-type gym leader already used it, so it's quite the underwhelming choice. Worse, it's not even particularly good.

Exactly that’s the point, he (Accidentally or on purposely) Hid the minor details it, to make it sound like he’s in the right while In actually he was wrong, btw this wasn’t the first time he does this he does this a few more time in the video. (I would’ve tell you but it will be way too long)

Dragonite is one of the least intimidating Pokémon I’ve ever met. A Combusken has a meaner look than it.

@@chikin5663 by intimidating I meant stat wise, even new players would know that it's a strong pokemon. When going against Lance you have to prepare and have a good answer to those 3 dragonites, unlike with Greeta.

@@probablyseth3565 think a palafin with flip turn or something could've been a good ace that comes in first, since its practically a pseudo once it transforms and maybe they could've swapped the veluza out for that and swapped gogoat out for Toedscruel or something with loads of status moves idk

"New pokemon games are ads for merch." Completely spot on. We should stop arguing things like "the games are good, you just grew up"; Pokémon CAN be good, but it will never happen if they're hell-bent on releasing a new generation every two years just to sell new merch. No modern game can be developed with that little time no matter how big the company, and more importantly nothing in the newer generations remotely justify the 60$ price tag + DLC + another 60$ for the second version / definitive version (remember USUM?).

@@pyro8632 I honestly have to disagree with the idea that the development cycle is the problem. If Gamefreak can make a game capable of running in 2 years with 150ish employes, a remarkably low quantity, they can make a good game with twice or three times that amount, they just won't bother.

I wish Pokémon games where more like older games. Where there was more an effort put into the single player content instead of the broad Wi-Fi communication content. :( I remember my first games being hgss & I love them. Idk :(

@@MesmerizingEyesXOXO but 4th gen literally introduced the gts and the wi-fi connection thing? stop coping lol

@@pokenoobmx3445 That is very ture however I’ve noticed how gen 4 never loss site of what makes pokemon games so great. :) as a whole I do appreciate many qualities of gen 4. Unfortunately gen 5 is my least favorite. Gen 6 did a complete 1-80 and I love it just as much as gen 4. Gens 7-8-9 I’ve never played bcuz well 😅 I don’t support the lower quality.

​@@MesmerizingEyesXOXO how do you know they're lower quality if you've never played them... a lot of people who really like gen 1 say the same about gen 4, that they hate them and don't wanna play them because they're bad quality.

@@GayToBeHere I’ve seen play throughs a of them. When I look at new Nintendo Switch Pokémon games they are lower quality from my eyes. Gen 6 in my opinion was the last really fun gen to play. Gen 7 has mixed feeling. Pretty much all the switch games are controversial and where a lot people really started to not like the new direction the games where going. I just need to say my opinion is not fact. It’s just an opinion only. You have free will to disagree & that’s ok.

game was good but 30 fps hurt my eyes my brain my soul

​@@milahoot8168 and most importantly, they broke my balls

They did good in XD for example, then they fucked up years later

​@@pacho6821 Gamefreak didn't do any of the Colosseum games my guy. Or battle revolution. They were outsourced.

@@sammydray5919 Oh thanks, didn't know

That’s capitalism. They’re getting sales anyway. What’s the benefit to them to releasing fewer games?

Not sure why people think 2d is limiting. There's dozens of games that utilize it to its fullest extent often with the help of 3d. Octopath travelers is a clear example of this giving it a 2.5D type of artstyle

Not to mention Gen 5 was criticized for not going 3D back in the day because other other RPG's like Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest and even Megaman (for battles anyways) went 3D on DS and how Gen 5 was the worst selling gen in the franchise, there really was no reason not to go 3D and considering how XY made Pokemon popular again (and later Go made it even more popular what uses the XY models) it was the right call overall.

@@compatriot852 Having to use 3D just shows how limiting 2D is because if 2D wasn't limiting you wouldn't need 3D in the first place...

@@impregnat0r 2.5D isn't full 2D so using that as an example how 2D isn't limited just shows how limiting it is, what is why I said that in my comment because his comment is about "Not sure why people think 2d is limiting", while the thing Cassette beasts, Coromon, Nexomon, LumenTale all achieve Pokemon doesn't is irrelevancy, as literally nobody talks and especially plays those games because people who want Pokemon type games just buy Pokemon instead...

Eh, I actually really enjoyed sword and shield; I didn’t really see anything wrong with it. I also enjoyed Scarlet and Violet though definitely not as much as sword and shield. (I wouldn’t have boughten it or played it myself if it weren’t gifted to me)

To be honest some do enjoy it I have no idea how they can spend twice as much for less content but to each their own well twice with dlc 3 times and still have less.

'Watashi no chinchin wa chisai desu' with the wrong subtitles had me laughing