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REMEX Paper Tape Drive Teardown - The Electronics Inside 

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@a531016
@a531016 3 года назад
I'm always looking for suggestions for interesting and strange equipment to tear down. Don't forget to let me know what you think would be good www.element14.com/theelectronicsinside
@simona625
@simona625 10 месяцев назад
Now that you've destroyed that Remex, what's going to happen to it ?
@BlankBrain
@BlankBrain 3 года назад
Remex also made combination reader/punch. I was installing a brand new reader/punch, which was quite expensive. I slipped on some spilled water on the computer room floor while carrying it. I went down with it (in retrospect I should have dropped it). One of the side panels cut tendons in my RH middle finger. I had to have surgery and months of rehabilitation. The paper tapes were used to build advanced computers. The backplane of the computer consisted of connectors with long gold plated pins run through a circuit board which provided a ground plane. The 31 boards in the computer were plugged into the connectors, which were wire-wound to each other. The paper tape had X and Y coordinates to guide the people who built the backplanes. The machine would position a tool guide over the correct pin on the backplane. A code was displayed to indicate the wire color. The wire color indicated the wire length. The worker would grab the indicated wire, put one end in the wire-wrap gun, position the gun onto the indicated pin, and press the trigger which wound the wire onto the pin. The worker pressed a foot pedal to advance the paper tape and the X Y pin guide. The worker put the other end of the wire into the wire wrap gun, positioned the gun over the second pin, and pulled the trigger to wrap the wire onto the pin. There were thousands of wires on a backplane. In the days before glitter, paper tape chaff was sometimes used in pranks.
@a531016
@a531016 3 года назад
Wow, that sounds like a terrible injury! There is definately a life lesson there, virtually not piece of equipment is worth severe injury. I'd love to get hold of something wire wound - but I don't think an AGC is in my future any time soon. I hadn't thought of that, but having had bad experiences with hole punches, I can imagine the paper chaff being a nightmare to tidy up!
@SeanBZA
@SeanBZA 3 года назад
@@a531016 Wire wrap is easy, look up old MOD sales on eBay and grab a few test systems, which almost invariably have massive blocks of wire wrapped cards in them. You want the stuff that is rack mounted, so grab a few, the front panels invariable do not look too interesting, but if there are switches and displays on it there invariably is wire wrap involved. French Military used wire wrap for test equipment, especially those systems that date from pre 1990, so you will find a lot. You will be bidding against the gold scrappers for it though.
@edwardaudet8367
@edwardaudet8367 3 года назад
When I worked for the A.P. we had a lot of punch tape machines mainly used at the time for stock quotes. Plus many teletype machines. I worked on a lot of model 15 and 20's. And wire photo. Boy does that bring back memories
@jaut-76
@jaut-76 Год назад
I have one of these which I have restored and I also have a complete user manual. The card you are missing is a second power supply card for the main spindle motor if I remember. This model was made in the early 70s around 1971/2. The output is 8 bit parallel ascii and the output is just +5v for a hole and 0 for no hole. It is a fast reader as it reads tape at 150 characters per second.
@jaut-76
@jaut-76 Год назад
This is a video of mine running at full speed. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8arCRAfwNF8.html
@SeanBZA
@SeanBZA 3 года назад
Sealed optical unit would be 9 phototransistors in a line, with the paper sprocket hole pulse used externally to drive an octal latch that, because it was shorter in duration, plus came after the main holes had settled, would give a reliable pulse to latch data, and also signal to the controller that the data was there. Open collector outputs, possibly with a pull up resistor in the block, but likely this was in the actual machinery. There would also be a retriggerable monostable on the sprocket pulse line that, when the paper tape ran out, timed out, giving the controller an indication of end of tape. Cards likely are all different ages, the power supply likely still is original card wise, but the controller cards have 1980 date stamps on some of the IC's, so either they were an upgrade or reworked at some point to replace failed IC's, though in almost all of the cards you see semiconductor manufacturers that no longer exist, or who no longer are in that product area.
@a531016
@a531016 3 года назад
Thank you!
@MAYERMAKES
@MAYERMAKES 3 года назад
Such a beauty
@a531016
@a531016 3 года назад
Thanks... Oh, you meant the machine?
@vintagecrtgaming855
@vintagecrtgaming855 2 года назад
Great video thanks. I have the same machine but mine is branded microtecnica, it is currently for sale. Comes with around 20 punch tape data reels in box
@The65c02
@The65c02 3 года назад
Good video. A company I worked for in 1982 were still using paper tape for payroll. A replacement payroll system was being developed. I remember the tape operators (yes it was a job) would have issues maintaining the correct tension, any change in tension would trip a relay and the whole unit would stop. I remember one operator would speed up the reading by shining a torch at a light detector and adding rubber bands in key places, sometimes they got away with it, other times it would result in the tape going every where. A broken tape was rare, the paper they used was well up to the job.
@a531016
@a531016 3 года назад
That is absolutely something I can imagine happening in a work palce. I still rememver the office cursing when the dot matrix printer was used for cheque runs... We were always looking for ways to speed it up!
@Mamoo480
@Mamoo480 3 года назад
I like old vintage things fascinating
@a531016
@a531016 3 года назад
Same, I like modern stuff, but seeing what life was like before multilayer PCBs and microcontrollers is always interesting!
@bayanicustodio3998
@bayanicustodio3998 3 года назад
There were also 5 level tapes on older TTY machines. The best part of it is if you are really good at it, read the info directly and use scissors and glue to edit the tape. There are also reperf machines which can copy the tapes. Placed in a safe place, it manages to keep the info without the problems of magnetic media. Some places used movie canisters to save the paper tapes.
@RadekMarszalek
@RadekMarszalek 3 года назад
That's soo cool!
@a531016
@a531016 3 года назад
It's an awesome machine, isn't it?
@RadekMarszalek
@RadekMarszalek 3 года назад
@@a531016 It is! Also it is a great machine to take inspiration for me. Currently, I am developing my own paper tape drive/reader and carrier itself. I was thinking about cramping all the paper tape in an audio cassette like format. Such a drive and carrier will be a great addition to my own DIY portable computer. Love your series on the element14 channel!
@kazriko
@kazriko 3 года назад
That patent was issued in 1971, submitted to the patent office in 1967. "4. The combination as set forth in claim 3 in which each of said amplifiers includes a pair of transistor and resistor chip means; a plurality of common contact layers coated on said substrate and extending parallel to said aligned cells for providing power connections for said amplifiers; and leads interconnecting the cells, chips and layers." They have the schematic of each light cell in the patent if you look at the images. It has both resistors and transistors though, so I can't tell which one the light sensing element is. It has a built in amplifier though.
@a531016
@a531016 3 года назад
Wow - you did much better than I did with the research! Thank you!
@feltonissimo
@feltonissimo 3 года назад
Yep I used these in the late 80’s on CNC machines.
@a531016
@a531016 3 года назад
It really surprised me, but, I guess 300 Characters a second is plenty to run G-Code when the machine might take a second to actuate each line?
@feltonissimo
@feltonissimo 3 года назад
@@a531016 We used the tape readers to load the part programs into memory. The programs were run from memory not directly off tape. Once the batch of components was made we also punched out the program to be stored as we probably edited the program whilst setting the machine. I think there was a colour coding so one colour tape was used for unproven programs, another for proven programs etc.
@DAVIDGREGORYKERR
@DAVIDGREGORYKERR 3 года назад
What about using two 35MM film spools or two 16MM film spools, I think that it would be better put back together and see if it can be used with a SINCLAIR Spectrum to save programs and load them back.
@a531016
@a531016 3 года назад
If I can figure out the pinout (which shouldn't be too hard) a RPI and some 3D printed spools should be a fun play?
@DAVIDGREGORYKERR
@DAVIDGREGORYKERR 3 года назад
@@a531016 I should have known it was a reader but a matching punch unit would loading and saving programs a breeze and not hit or miss.
@zaprodk
@zaprodk 3 года назад
MOSFET's? Nope! - That's old darlington transistors :D
@a531016
@a531016 3 года назад
I got there in the end!
@dykodesigns
@dykodesigns 3 года назад
The name Yasakawa Electric might be linked to YE-DATA, who used to make floppy drives. Yasakawa is known for beeing the first company to have built industrial robots for the car industry. The unit looks very late 60's by it's design and styling.
@a531016
@a531016 3 года назад
Perfect, thank you. I'll check it out see if it leads anywhere!
@iamatom.
@iamatom. 3 года назад
First like
@geordiegrumble4584
@geordiegrumble4584 3 года назад
Great video. But please lose the bacground music. It's not needed, and is just irritating!
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