All of my favorite guns were either designed by or improved by John M Browning and most are pretty much still around today and like the 870 Wingmaster have stood the test of time. Got my first one in 1966 and as a teen I hunted it HARD. After years of hard use someone thought enough of it to steal it. Just ordered my 4th one today from a fella and will sell my Ithica model 37. I think it is the best along with the Browning BPS. Sleek and elegant designs but the 870 is the ultimage modder gun. Hundreds of stock, barrels etc to make it look however you want and shoot whatever you want. Quick barrel swaps. Whats not to like?
The one regret I have is selling my police model BPS 24" barrel and 7+1 magazine, fantastic shotgun. I bought a Wingmaster 870 made in 1970 a beautiful, great gun, but miss my BPS😢. J.M.Browning was a Genius
Thanks for a great video. The Remington 870 Police Magnum, retired from police use, is a great place to start. The steel receiver is robust compared to the Mossberg 500 aluminum frame that has cracked. I have three used 870s and all needed tuning for reliability. I had an 870 Wingmaster forend braise point to the slide arms crack and had to replace a set of shell latches but no other problems. For serious use (high round count) I like the 870 PM with flex tab shell lifter best.
I carried one of those for 25 yrs as a LEO, never hesitated for a minute, never had a malfunction. I was so impressed all my personal long guns were Remingtons as well, still have them all 870s, 1100s, ll-87 and 700 bolt actions, wish I’d bought more when they were made well and available. Someday they will be my grandsons, they are built well enough that they can trust them to their grandsons too!
When I got my Rem. 870P it was 1983. It was plain blue steel with corncob fore end and nice high gloss butt stock and fore end. Had a 20" deer slug barrel just like yours. Bought it at Karnival Sports on Avenue P in Brooklyn. Back then you needed a LONG GUN permit (think ya still do) to get a rifle or shotgun. When you bought the gun the store would give you the registration slip and you couldn't buy ammo without your permit and registration. The store had a log book and noted your purchase, permit and registration numbers, amount of ammo bought, (almost like Hitler). You couldn't touch a gun without showing a permit! I brought the 870P home on the subway, no lie. At the Coney Island stop a transit cop asked to see my permit and registration. He also had me take the gun out so he could see it. He played with my gun for about ten minutes! We had a good time talking guns. Only mistake I ever made was getting a Pachmayr pistol grip. Let me tell you, it ain't like on TV shooting a 12ga with that. The gun comes straight back into the web of your hand (OUCH!!!) Mother fxxxxr did it hurt. Now at 70 years and after three eye surgeries my 12ga days are done. It's a swell shotgun. Gonna hafta sell my Remington. Hope you all enjoyed this. Thanks for letting me vent.
@@MilsurpGarage, didn't know you were a Brooklynite back then. I know Sheepshead, Coney and Bensonhurst well. After buying the 870P I took the F train from McDonald Ave. heading home to Bay Ridge but had to change for the N at Coney stop. That's where I met the cop. I used to shoot .22 rifles at a range in midtown. The West Side Pistol and Rifle Range at 20 W20th street. I took the RR train from Bay Ridge almost every saturday early am to the 23rd street stop with a .22 rifle in my lap, cased of course. Never had trouble with anyone, cops included. This was the early 1980's.
I grew up a block away from that Gunshop. Was too young for any firearms..all I could do was stare at the guns and buy a plad wool hunting shirt blue and black...still have it. It's a shame I think it's a funeral parlor now.
@@alexb.6466- very interesting. I liked that gun shop, located on the triangle of 65th, Dahill and Ave P. Bought two rimfire rifles there too. A Rossi 62SAC and Ithaca M49. Took them home via bus. There was a bus stop at MacDonald Ave and Ave P. That bus (B??) went down 65th street to 3rd Ave and then over to 69th street where I got off. Just a few blocks from my apartment on 3rd Ave. What years did you live there??
@@MilsurpGarage It's up there. And being so common I've watched a lot of RU-vid vids and Googled a lot. No, I haven't heard of that one. I'll look it up.
@@MilsurpGarage I've been wanting a pump 22. Mostly been learning about the turn of the century guns like a Colt lightning, Winchester pumps, Etc. Uncle has a Winchester 1906 but he probably won't let me get it and fix it up.
Walked in LGS for the normal in & Out to see what might be in the used ,consignment case..looking for a older j frame .no j frame but deputy was swapping 1/2 dozen 870s for new ones. $290 .like it.1st pump shotgun ever
Recently purchased a remington 870 wing master from an auction that was converted into a "riot" police and was also used during the Ohio prison riot of 93. 1968 is the year it was born.
The choke stamp is on the left side of the barrel just forward of the date codes. A deer barrel with sights should be cylinder bore for slugs and may not be marked.
Actually, it's on both the right and left side. Left side is spelled out with 3 letter abbreviation....Right side near that circle...just out from the receiver and bolt using 1 capital letter. His looks to be an ''R''. I'm guessing rifled.
I enjoyed your video buddy on the Remington Model 870 pump shotgun !!! I have a couple of questions you might can answer sir !!! 1. What was the meaning if any behind the numerical number 870 or should I ask WHY was it called the 870 and the 1100 called it's numerical number ? I bought a Remington model 870 Magnum Special Purpose when they first came out with the camo furniture mine was the Realtree Greenleaf 21 inch barrel and I can't remember when I bought it and like a dummy I threw away the box !!! I also inherited my late dads Remington 1100 and his Remington Woodmaster model 742 in .243 cal. and the shotguns are 12ga. !!! !!! Do I just call Remington and give them my serial # for each gun to get a manufactured date ?
Hey just bought my first wing master I’ve been thinking about switching barrels (it came with a 2 3/4 cambered) can I change that to a 3 in cambered barrel ? Or just leave it as is
There are 2 3/4 inch, 3 inch, and 3 1/2 inch barrels as well as normal receivers, and magnum receivers......who knows what is compatible but the manufacturer. I would leave that one as is and get another made for 3 inch shells. I'm not a big fan of playing around where safety and firearm integrity is concerned.
My family has one shotgun, a 57 870 wingmaster with a Hastings ribbed barrel that my grandfather (the original owner) put on in the 60s. Over the years it’s shot plenty of waterfowl with 3” shells and it’s never had an issue. Not a recommendation just an observation
There are so many different types of 12 Gauge ammo to choose from.....start with the mildest recoil taming rounds and work your way up. Get a good set of ear protection. Once you gain confidence and love and respect the power of a 12 gauge shotgun you will up the firepower to high brass buckshot and slugs for sure. We ALL start off timid and apprehensive of the 12 gauge, I promise. Try trap shooting with a 20 gauge first......